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ahj2000 wrote:Nothing on QRs site abiut this.
dubaiamman243 wrote:QR1024 is currently enroute to DXB. This will come into effect with 24hrs.
jetblueguy22 wrote:dubaiamman243 wrote:QR1024 is currently enroute to DXB. This will come into effect with 24hrs.
BBC said 48 hrs
Qatari citizens in the region have been given 14 days to leave the country for security and precautionary reasons. All the sea and airports coming and going to Qatar will be closed in 24 hours.
RyanairGuru wrote:This appears to motivated by two separate issues: Qatar's desire to normalise relations with Iran and their support for the Muslim Brotherhood.
PerfectGriffin wrote:And they are effectively surrounded by the UAE and KSA. Though they can still fly up the Gulf and through Iranian airspace, this represents a serious detour in may instances.They fly nearly 30x daily to the UAE alone.
mercure1 wrote:RyanairGuru wrote:This appears to motivated by two separate issues: Qatar's desire to normalise relations with Iran and their support for the Muslim Brotherhood.
And that Qatar based Al Jazeera is not afraid to report about the dirty deeds happening in fellow Arab states and has become a major news source for people across the region.
Egypt has arrested Al Jazeera employees and tried to block satellite broadcast while Saudi Arabia has also limited access.
rufusmi wrote:The Qatari government better do some quick neogotiating, otherwise it looks like QR is in deep trouble.
ty97 wrote:This tweet (includes a map) talks about routes that will be available to QR in/out of Qatar after the airspace bans take effect.
https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/ ... 1771894786
C010T3 wrote:ty97 wrote:This tweet (includes a map) talks about routes that will be available to QR in/out of Qatar after the airspace bans take effect.
https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/ ... 1771894786
Considering this map, is the Israeli airspace really available?
Pellegrine wrote:HOLD ON
I have not seen in reports that KSA and UAE airspace has been closed to Qatari carriers. It has been reported as confirmed that Bahrain and Egypt have. QR won't be "broken" by this, they'll just have to park some planes. Other airlines will have to as well if Qatar retaliates. Qatar itself will be fine unless the world joins in...no one's blocked the Strait of Hormuz...they can still export hydrocarbons.
MoonC wrote:QR1321 DOH-LUX is overflying Saudi Arabia.
Other flights are still going over the UAE.
I see no overflight ban.
Pellegrine wrote:HOLD ON
I have not seen in reports that KSA and UAE airspace has been closed to Qatari carriers. It has been reported as confirmed that Bahrain and Egypt have. QR won't be "broken" by this, they'll just have to park some planes. Other airlines will have to as well if Qatar retaliates. Qatar itself will be fine unless the world joins in...no one's blocked the Strait of Hormuz...they can still export hydrocarbons.
log0008 wrote:The governments of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and Egypt said in statements they will suspend air and sea travel to and from Qatar. Saudi Arabia will shut land crossings with its neighbor, according to the official Saudi Press Agency, potentially depriving the emirate of imports.
Midwestindy wrote:I would like to see Qatar retaliate, who are their allies right now,,,,,,,Iran? You do know that Qatar relies on those countries for a lot of their everyday functions, right? For pete's sake their only land connections to the outside world are through those countries!!!
Pellegrine wrote:log0008 wrote:The governments of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and Egypt said in statements they will suspend air and sea travel to and from Qatar. Saudi Arabia will shut land crossings with its neighbor, according to the official Saudi Press Agency, potentially depriving the emirate of imports.
Right. Reporting has not been specific on airspace and overflight specifically.
jmc1975 wrote:With the new announcement of UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Egypt severing diplomatic ties with Qatar, how will this effect the viability of Qatar Airways going forward? How will this effect ME3 in general?
A spokesman for Abu Dhabi airline Etihad Airways said the airline would suspend flights to and from Qatar from Tuesday morning.
RL777 wrote:jmc1975 wrote:With the new announcement of UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Egypt severing diplomatic ties with Qatar, how will this effect the viability of Qatar Airways going forward? How will this effect ME3 in general?
I think we should let this play out a bit more before speculating, too many missing details to make a reasonable prediction.
jacobchoi wrote:I'm flying from London to Hong Kong via Doha on the 22/06. Do you think it is wise to rebook and/or will there be serious delays and implications etc?
Pellegrine wrote:C010T3 wrote:ty97 wrote:This tweet (includes a map) talks about routes that will be available to QR in/out of Qatar after the airspace bans take effect.
https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/ ... 1771894786
Considering this map, is the Israeli airspace really available?
I'm not aware that Israel allows overflight for any carrier period. Not 100% sure though.
Pellegrine wrote:Midwestindy wrote:I would like to see Qatar retaliate, who are their allies right now,,,,,,,Iran? You do know that Qatar relies on those countries for a lot of their everyday functions, right? For pete's sake their only land connections to the outside world are through those countries!!!
In a crisis such as this they can still conduct im/ex commerce through the Strait of Hormuz...nothing's blocking that. Even if all 4 countries deny overflight, besides the harm from not being able to land in those countries, QR flight plans to the SE and NW can easily be detoured slightly over Iran. They don't have many flights to Africa, and those that do can fly east>gulf>Iran>Oman>southwest to points onward.
jacobchoi wrote:I'm flying from London to Hong Kong via Doha on the 22/06. Do you think it is wise to rebook and/or will there be serious delays and implications etc?
Midwestindy wrote:I don't know why you are so focussed on the Strait, only so much of a countries imports and exports are transported on water.... Qatar is a tiny country that relies on everyone else for everything (I would know I have had work there on numerous occasions), they have absolutely no power in this situation, it would be wise for them to step down before Saudi Arabia brings the big boys into play (US, Japan, UK, China). QR flight plans are probably the least of their concerns right now!