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knutnordlid wrote:Cubana´s Il-96 fleet has had a very unstable usage during the last months. CU-T1250 was flown to Moscow and onwards to the Ilyushin factory in Voronezh for service on January 26. this year and have not been seen since then.
This makes the ex Aeroflot Il-96, CU-T1717, the only active Il-96 in Cubanas fleet. This aircraft however was last seen flying on on May 15. from EZE to HAV via CCC and since that day it has not been registered on Flightradar24.
Anyone who knows what happens to the Il-96´s of Cubana?
One can see that flights are scheduled with Il-96, but they are not operated. It would be sad if these rare birds disappeared from the caribbean skies.
Dahlgardo wrote:knutnordlid wrote:Cubana´s Il-96 fleet has had a very unstable usage during the last months. CU-T1250 was flown to Moscow and onwards to the Ilyushin factory in Voronezh for service on January 26. this year and have not been seen since then.
This makes the ex Aeroflot Il-96, CU-T1717, the only active Il-96 in Cubanas fleet. This aircraft however was last seen flying on on May 15. from EZE to HAV via CCC and since that day it has not been registered on Flightradar24.
Anyone who knows what happens to the Il-96´s of Cubana?
One can see that flights are scheduled with Il-96, but they are not operated. It would be sad if these rare birds disappeared from the caribbean skies.
CUT1250 is likely at Voronezh for heavy mx.
CUT1251 is a VIP aircraft.
CUT1254 hasn't flown since 2012.
The IL96 is expensive to operate, and Cubana probably don't have a lot of money.
On another note, Cubana also only have one of six An-158 flying due to a lack of spare parts from the factory in Ukraine.
crownvic wrote:Dahlgardo wrote:knutnordlid wrote:Cubana´s Il-96 fleet has had a very unstable usage during the last months. CU-T1250 was flown to Moscow and onwards to the Ilyushin factory in Voronezh for service on January 26. this year and have not been seen since then.
This makes the ex Aeroflot Il-96, CU-T1717, the only active Il-96 in Cubanas fleet. This aircraft however was last seen flying on on May 15. from EZE to HAV via CCC and since that day it has not been registered on Flightradar24.
Anyone who knows what happens to the Il-96´s of Cubana?
One can see that flights are scheduled with Il-96, but they are not operated. It would be sad if these rare birds disappeared from the caribbean skies.
CUT1250 is likely at Voronezh for heavy mx.
CUT1251 is a VIP aircraft.
CUT1254 hasn't flown since 2012.
The IL96 is expensive to operate, and Cubana probably don't have a lot of money.
On another note, Cubana also only have one of six An-158 flying due to a lack of spare parts from the factory in Ukraine.
According to Flight Global, the entire AN-158 fleet is grounded for that reason.
mark1484 wrote:With a slightly revised colour scheme
dcajet wrote:mark1484 wrote:With a slightly revised colour scheme
Wasn't it @Voronezh for an overhaul?
In any case, just as a footnote, CU is still operating to EZE with Plus Ultra's EC-MFA. I believe EZE, ORY and MAD are the only long haul routes that CU is presently flying. Maybe GRU as well? Mike Foxtrot Alpha arrived @EZE this morning, in true CU fashion, over 8 hours late.
mark1484 wrote:dcajet wrote:mark1484 wrote:With a slightly revised colour scheme
Wasn't it @Voronezh for an overhaul?
I think T1250 was rumoured to be at Voronezh. It hasn't been seen on Flightradar for a while either has the ex Aeroflot machine for that matter.
GianiDC wrote:What is the chance of Cubana getting some western build aircraft with recently stabilized relations with the US? I admit I don´t know much about cuban forreign affairs but if Iran Air can get new airplanes, I wonder if Cubana can get some too.
thepinkmachine wrote:Didn't they have ATRs some time ago by any chance?
Dahlgardo wrote:knutnordlid wrote:Cubana´s Il-96 fleet has had a very unstable usage during the last months. CU-T1250 was flown to Moscow and onwards to the Ilyushin factory in Voronezh for service on January 26. this year and have not been seen since then.
This makes the ex Aeroflot Il-96, CU-T1717, the only active Il-96 in Cubanas fleet. This aircraft however was last seen flying on on May 15. from EZE to HAV via CCC and since that day it has not been registered on Flightradar24.
Anyone who knows what happens to the Il-96´s of Cubana?
One can see that flights are scheduled with Il-96, but they are not operated. It would be sad if these rare birds disappeared from the caribbean skies.
CUT1250 is likely at Voronezh for heavy mx.
CUT1251 is a VIP aircraft.
CUT1254 hasn't flown since 2012.
The IL96 is expensive to operate, and Cubana probably don't have a lot of money.
On another note, Cubana also only have one of six An-158 flying due to a lack of spare parts from the factory in Ukraine.
SR380 wrote:Hey guys,
According to this article, all of four Il-96-300 operated by CU may soon return to service. This include CU-T1250 that is still in VASO for test flights and even CU-T1254, line number 0017, that hasn't been flying for many years.
All An-158 may also soon all be flying thanks to a deal reached between CU and VASO.
I hope CU-T1717 will also be repaited and wear that new livery!
link: https://www.rusaviainsider.com/russian- ... n-carrier/
SR380 wrote:By the way. Some years ago we've heard that they might be considering the longer version now dubbed the Il-96-400, which seems to be still on the pipeline at UAC according to this articles:
https://centreforaviation.com/news/-------718655
What are your thoughts?
Does anyone know if CU-T1717 will also be wearing the new livery any time soon?
mark1484 wrote:https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/60150-cubana-seeks-to-reactivate-il-96-fleet
xdlx wrote:Most if not all the network could be operated with SU100 with exception to Longhaul.
dcajet wrote:mark1484 wrote:https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/60150-cubana-seeks-to-reactivate-il-96-fleet
Excellent, thanks.xdlx wrote:Most if not all the network could be operated with SU100 with exception to Longhaul.
Indeed, but would it be able to pass the US embargo test? Is there a good portion of US components on the Superjet?
SR380 wrote:Nothing to do with the topic, but why is Maduro keeps on flying on CU Il-96? He could for sure afford one for is own?
SR380 wrote:Nothing to do with the topic, but why is Maduro keeps on flying on CU Il-96? He could for sure afford one for is own?
dcajet wrote:SR380 wrote:Nothing to do with the topic, but why is Maduro keeps on flying on CU Il-96? He could for sure afford one for is own?
Well, Chavez, back in the day of $100/barrel got a brand new A319 business jet that he used extensively until his death. Pretty much after his passing the A319 disappeared. Not sure what happened to it.
In parallel to the A319, Conviasa also got its hands on an A342, ex AF, ex UX that was used for flights to EZE, MAD and the infamous axis of evil flight to Damascus and Tehran. Around the same time the A319 vanished, the A342 was reported to be impounded at Airbus (where it was sent for maintenance) for lack of payment. I seem to remember it eventually found its way back to CCS, but AFAIK it was never used again on scheduled services, so it must be rotting away G-d only knows where.
So there you have it. Planes, they used to own. What happened to them is another chapter of that book called "The Fleecing of Venezuela".
MalevTU134 wrote:dcajet wrote:SR380 wrote:Nothing to do with the topic, but why is Maduro keeps on flying on CU Il-96? He could for sure afford one for is own?
Well, Chavez, back in the day of $100/barrel got a brand new A319 business jet that he used extensively until his death. Pretty much after his passing the A319 disappeared. Not sure what happened to it.
In parallel to the A319, Conviasa also got its hands on an A342, ex AF, ex UX that was used for flights to EZE, MAD and the infamous axis of evil flight to Damascus and Tehran. Around the same time the A319 vanished, the A342 was reported to be impounded at Airbus (where it was sent for maintenance) for lack of payment. I seem to remember it eventually found its way back to CCS, but AFAIK it was never used again on scheduled services, so it must be rotting away G-d only knows where.
So there you have it. Planes, they used to own. What happened to them is another chapter of that book called "The Fleecing of Venezuela".
The 342 is rotting away outside the Conviasa hangars (that also double as the company's HQ...that says everything about them, really) at CCS. The 319 is in use as presidential transport, used almost every weekend for Nico's trips to Havana to receive next week's orders (it is said Maduro is paranoid about eavesdropping from "Presiden Trom", so insists on personal meetings with Castro). Of course the 319 can't make it CCS-ALG and ESB-CCS (I believe he went CCS-ALG-MOW-MSQ-ESB-CCS), hence the CU IL9 was borrowed. That's the least the Cubans can do...
knutnordlid wrote:It has not been mentioned in this thread, so I would like to inform that CU-T1250 that has been in Voronezh for service a long time is flying again.
It first flew in September and has been in the air several times since then - yesterday was the last time.
It will be exciting to see how Cubana will operate two Il-96's.
...and what happens to the third one, CU-T1250, that should be operational, but has not been flying for many months?
SR380 wrote:knutnordlid wrote:It has not been mentioned in this thread, so I would like to inform that CU-T1250 that has been in Voronezh for service a long time is flying again.
It first flew in September and has been in the air several times since then - yesterday was the last time.
It will be exciting to see how Cubana will operate two Il-96's.
...and what happens to the third one, CU-T1250, that should be operational, but has not been flying for many months?
So CU is retireing a Il-96 that as just when though heavy maintenance and got a new paint?
dcajet wrote:SR380 wrote:knutnordlid wrote:It has not been mentioned in this thread, so I would like to inform that CU-T1250 that has been in Voronezh for service a long time is flying again.
It first flew in September and has been in the air several times since then - yesterday was the last time.
It will be exciting to see how Cubana will operate two Il-96's.
...and what happens to the third one, CU-T1250, that should be operational, but has not been flying for many months?
So CU is retireing a Il-96 that as just when though heavy maintenance and got a new paint?
I think knutnordlid meant that CU-T1250 last flew yesterday, not that it was its last flight.
So, we now have CU-T1250 getting ready to get back to commercial service, then CU-T1251 has been operational for some months now, it flew HAV-EZE-HAV today, the southbound leg with a whopping 50-something paxs on board. Then CU-T1254 is stored at HAV, its future in doubt. Russian mechanics have said it needs quite some work and TLC before it can be flown to Voronezh for a major overhaul. And there is the hybrid Aeroflot-Cubana livery CU-T1717 that for over a couple of years at most was the sole operational IL96 with CU and that I understand has been retired. Not sure if returned to the lessor or awaiting overhaul in Russia.
dcajet wrote:I think knutnordlid meant that CU-T1250 last flew yesterday, not that it was its last flight.
So, we now have CU-T1250 getting ready to get back to commercial service, then CU-T1251 has been operational for some months now, it flew HAV-EZE-HAV today, the southbound leg with a whopping 50-something paxs on board. Then CU-T1254 is stored at HAV, its future in doubt. Russian mechanics have said it needs quite some work and TLC before it can be flown to Voronezh for a major overhaul. And there is the hybrid Aeroflot-Cubana livery CU-T1717 that for over a couple of years at most was the sole operational IL96 with CU and that I understand has been retired. Not sure if returned to the lessor or awaiting overhaul in Russia.
redcap1962 wrote:Could it be that the Russians are (financially) supporting Cuba/Cubana in some way? Friendly relations from the past...
SR380 wrote:dcajet wrote:SR380 wrote:
So CU is retireing a Il-96 that as just when though heavy maintenance and got a new paint?
I think knutnordlid meant that CU-T1250 last flew yesterday, not that it was its last flight.
So, we now have CU-T1250 getting ready to get back to commercial service, then CU-T1251 has been operational for some months now, it flew HAV-EZE-HAV today, the southbound leg with a whopping 50-something paxs on board. Then CU-T1254 is stored at HAV, its future in doubt. Russian mechanics have said it needs quite some work and TLC before it can be flown to Voronezh for a major overhaul. And there is the hybrid Aeroflot-Cubana livery CU-T1717 that for over a couple of years at most was the sole operational IL96 with CU and that I understand has been retired. Not sure if returned to the lessor or awaiting overhaul in Russia.
I have been told that after sales service was a mess for Russian aircraft but I didn’t imagine it was all that bad! What ever happen to T1254? Why is it in such a bad shape?
redcap1962 wrote:Could it be that the Russians are (financially) supporting Cuba/Cubana in some way? Friendly relations from the past...
SR380 wrote:redcap1962 wrote:Could it be that the Russians are (financially) supporting Cuba/Cubana in some way? Friendly relations from the past...
As far as I know it was acquired with the financial ais of a Russian bank. At least 85% each planes were financed by a loan from Roseximbank. What kind of deal did they get when they bought it, that I don’t know. But is it really more expensive to operat then than used A330? Do they pay full price for C-D check?