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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:03 pm

The 757 is one the best machines to fly on. Always a fun experience
Let's hope the 797 looks (and performs) like the 757!
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:15 pm

personally, the 757 will never be truly replaced!!! no plane will can fully replace the missions the 757 currently flies. look at the US3, they figured out that the 757 was the perfect plane for short atlantic flights and still offer premium customers the comfort and amenities that smaller wide bodies offer.

the looks and lines of that plane....sexy!!!
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:17 pm

Lucky for me living near EWR and flying on UA I try to book 757's as much as possible. My last flight on a 757 was EWR-TPA on a 752 in May. It was rainy in EWR and there were a lot of cells, so we did a full power takeoff and climb like a rocket. Thats at least what the captain told me. Cut to 1:01 to watch the full power takeoff and the climb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBe3OkC-yCk&t=193s My next flight is on ex UA bird in august from LAX to EWR in the P.S config, I can't wait. My second favorite aircraft of all time. I love seeing them at SXM.
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:17 pm

Acey559 wrote:
TWA772LR wrote:
holzmann wrote:
When we talk a about cars, we often talk about power:weight ratio. Is there a similar metric that could be applied to the 757, finally proving that it indeed moves and climbs faster than the rest?

I guess in it's most basic form you can take thrust over MTOW.
For the 757-200 with RR engines, it would be: [(43500lbf x2)/255,000lbs]= .3412
For the 757-200 with PW engines, it would be: [(42600lbf x2)/255,000lbs]= .3341
The above is the same for the 757F.

For the 757-300 with RR engines, it would be: [(43500lbf x2)/273,000lbs]= .3187
For the 757-300 with PW engines, it would be: [(42600lbf x2)/273,000lbs]= .3121

Compared to the dry thrust of the F-15E:
[(14590lbf x2)/81000lbs]= .3602


Rolls engines on the -200 are 41,000 lb thrust and P&W on the -200 is roughly 36,000 lb thrust. Looks like you gave -300 numbers for both.

[(36000lbf x2)/225,000lbs]= .32
Thanks for the correction!
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:34 pm

I've had the pleasure of flying on 757s from AA, DL (both premerger DL, and post merger NWA) , UA (pre merger), CO and EA. My first 757 flight was on Eastern, EWR-MCO Summer 1988. As soon as I boarded it felt so much more modern than the 737s and 727s I was used to constantly flying. I've flown on the 752 and 753. Some highlights:

EA EWR-MCO
CO EWR-BCN (in 2006 prior to winglets and AVOD installation).
Pre-Merger UA JFK-SFO/LAX P.S. service (flew in F ! )
AA STT-SJU-EWR (where I got my username)

I could go on and on.
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:38 pm

airtrantpa wrote:
needmolegroom wrote:
airtrantpa wrote:
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The only Florida to Caledonia flights I can think of is VS service MCO-GLA seasonal 744, (ive flown Lady Penelope g-vfab 3 times on this route). I don't think know of anymore service from SFB. I took flyglobespan a few times and the service was horrible, but you get what you paid for, the only benefit they offered was avoiding London.



AIRTRANTPA - Have we been walking in one another's shoes? Your moniker brings back memories of my favourite airline for my business travels around the south when I was located in Houston.
Then I see you mentioning the problems over the years of getting from the Southeast to Edinburgh. While I can’t claim to have ever played the pipes at the Tattoo, for as long as I can remember I’ve also wrestled with how best to get back across the pond. In my case that’s ATL to EDI. I think I’ve tried all the options and fwiw the perfect solution was the brief appearance of a direct DL flight, with the bonus of it being on a 767, my favourite ride for TATL. Alas it didn’t last. At different times flying via BRU or AMS seemed the best options.
I see mention of the VS flight to MAN which is good, if only the connections with BE were better. Since connecting through LON or NY has never appealed, it may be back to AMS. But I digress………..while the 757 is nice you can’t beat the 767 for longer trips.

I
I prefere the 767 as well, I flew the ATL/EDI route on a 752 several times. My last trip was the lastfirst time I flew on a 752 in the wavy gravy paint job. As for my moniker, I worked for Airtran in TPA, I miss them we had that small airline feel that everyone knew eachother, at WN its a whole different feeling.


Apologies - put it down to old age - I mixed up AIrTran with TranStar Airlines ( formerly Muse Air). Both fine Airlines which met the same fate in being swallowed by WN - with similar unfortunate results.
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:55 pm

BN727227Ultra wrote:
airtrantpa wrote:
I do believe Song had the best livery to ever grace a 752


+1


No way :smile:


 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:05 pm

BoeingGuy wrote:
BG777300ER wrote:
Two comments on the 757.

Is it more predisposed to turbulence due to it's design. I fly weekly roundtrips LAX-EWR, and I seem to always experience turbulence in the 57s. However, when I fly the 777s on that route, it's always smooth.

Second, I also started getting headaches on the 757 flights almost like clockwork, about 3 hours into each flight. This does not happen on 777s. Are there some differences in the altittude at which both aircraft pressurize? I realize 757 uses a decade's wroth of older technology, as it made its first flight in the 80s, as opposed to the 777 in 90s.


Do you have any technical rationale for that, or is it just anecdotal? There is no real reason why the 757 should be more prone to a turbulent ride. However, the 777 (and 787) do have some features in their fly-by-wire system that do dampen out some effects of turbulence. However, my suspicion is your observation is just based on chance.

Both airplanes have a cabin altitude of about 8000 feet. The 787 is 6000.


I do not. I think its just chsnce on the turbulence. The headaches I have absolutely no idea. No other airplanes or long flights give them to me. Must also be random coincidence.
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:17 pm

nitepilot79 wrote:
BN727227Ultra wrote:
airtrantpa wrote:
I do believe Song had the best livery to ever grace a 752


+1


No way :smile:




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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:39 pm

While I believe the 727 is ultimately the most beautiful bird ever, in the modern era it's definitely the '57. I always loved the way the windshield molds so nicely and effortlessly into her fuselage. And the way the engines look a little too big for her fuselage, but that's part of the beauty. Basically, she is not a heavy per se, but she b*lls like no other. The steep takeoff climb, and the way both PW and RR engines sound on takeoff. For 20 years I haven't been able to figure out which sound I like best. Simply a perfect aircraft with perfect lines. I've always viewed the '57, '67 and '77 as brothers. The '57 and '77 as the handsome, athletic bros, with the '67 being the typical middle child. Little clumsy, not as handsome and a little awkward.
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:40 pm

QUOTE: "My first flight was on a CZ 757-300.."

Methinks CZ has never operated the -300...maybe I'm wrong.

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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:46 pm

nitepilot79 wrote:
BN727227Ultra wrote:
airtrantpa wrote:

My favorite: the short-lived NWA metallic livery, it makes the 757 look like a bird of prey:

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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:57 pm

Ah yes, the mighty 757. I only had the opportunity to fly on one once. It was back around 2003 and I flew DTW-SEA on NW. It was a -200 model and I sat in the very last row at a window. First and only time I have ever seen contrail forming right behind the engine directly adjacent to my window. Spectacular flight. 41/2 hours of awe.
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:12 pm

Remarkable aircraft. Flown on many on all sorts of sectors.. Short hops like LHR-MAN with BA, longer flights such as LAS-DEN and DEN-MIA with UA and as far as LGW-MCO with Monarch which was even scheduled to operate the return non-stop. Incredible.

I get to try the 757-300 this weekend :)

Hands down the most attractive of all Boeing aircraft.

One livery tops them all though.

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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:15 pm

holzmann wrote:
Flew a UA 753 from SFO to DCA back in mid May. Was my first 753 journey. Wow, it feels like a long plane. Deplaning from the rear is a PITA and perhaps the longest deplaning I've ever experienced. That said, when the throttles were put all the way forward on the SFO parallels, it still felt like we were going somewhere with a purpose. The acceleration and climb out on a 75X always *feels* more exhilarating than any other AC.


My first flight on a 753 was a United flight from EWR to Punta Cana a few years back. It was a long plane and we were stuffed somewhere in the back. But, we deplaned via airstairs and they used both the front and back doors. We exited the back -- as any self-respecting av-geek would do -- and were able to walk the entire length of the aircraft from back to front before entering the terminal. Seeing the 753 from that angle was a treat - it looked massive from up close on the ground.
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:26 pm

PEK777 wrote:
As I sit here and gaze upon a DL757 destined for MSP from MKE, I can't help but think there is no doubt this aircraft deserves a thread for us to show appreciation. The takeoff performance, that nose, the long legs, the L2 boarding door, the tooling that Boeing still has-this beast was a winner all around. What is your favorite thing about it?


Great looking aircraft, particularly the front. Great aircraft for airliners.net. How many threads has this provoked? How many what if is (i.e. what if AS had the 757, etc.)?
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:33 pm

I've probably flown the 757 more than any other aircraft type. From short hops like EGE-DEN, ATL-PNS and ORD-CLE to much longer flights like LAX-OGG, EWR-TXL and ORD-ANC the 757 has *always* been such a comfortable ride. My most recent trip on the type - a UA 753 LAX-ORD redeye last month - was certainly no exception. In fact, that flight was my first time on one of UA's 753s! However, I certainly hope not the last!
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:35 pm

First 757 flight was on EA, their first flight from St Thomas.

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AWACSooner wrote:
Definitely this...and I'll add one more: National (N7)...I still think that had the best looking tail scheme I've ever seen!


I loved N7, I flew them a fair amount LAS-LAX-LAS, flawed business model, but a good airline for their short history

Varsity1 wrote:


The best of them all.



One of the best ever on any aircraft.
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:43 pm

I flew a NWA DTW-ANC a dozen or so years ago against a substantial headwind that pushed the trip time to nearly seven hours. No tech stop was involved. I wondered to myself - "Why don't they use these over the north Atlantic?" In fact, Loftleidir was already doing this. And NWA DTW-DUS 757 flights were not too far off.
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:07 pm

UPS757Pilot wrote:
Been flying the 757 for 10 years now and plan on doing so as long as they let me! I imagine that we at UPS will probably be the last 757 operator in the world as all 75 our 757s were new-built for us and only log an average of around 2-3 block hours per day.


Some also go across the pond at night from Newark to Cologne...is UPS a reason why the MTOW was bumped up from 109t to 116t? As for the model itself, I suspect that it would have sold a lot more if ETOPS had arrived earlier and airlines consider now what they do then. US carriers and Icelandair (any good 757 coming onto the market not becoming a freighter is snatched up by Airco, the in-house lessor for Icelandair) will hang on to the 757, especially freighters or 116t passenger versions, and get every last hour out of them.

As for the hours, you're not kidding! As of April 3, 2017, N401UP, the first 757 for UPS, which is nearly 30 years old, has only 32,000 hours over about 22,000 cycles. If the parts are available along with Boeing support, these 757s could be flying for 60-70 years easily.

kgaiflyer wrote:
I flew a NWA DTW-ANC a dozen or so years ago against a substantial headwind that pushed the trip time to nearly seven hours. No tech stop was involved. I wondered to myself - "Why don't they use these over the north Atlantic?" In fact, Loftleidir was already doing this. And NWA DTW-DUS 757 flights were not too far off.


IINM, British Airways, before all international services were centered around Heathrow and Gatwick, did send 757s across the pond. When Continental got its 757s, they were primarily for transatlantic services, and that is how Continental (and later United to this day) maintain service to Lisbon year-round...using a 169-seat 757.
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:24 pm

First ride was on a Republic Airlines 757. Something I will never forget. Majestic, and just so fun to ride on. First Class is the best seat on them.
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:32 pm

A beautiful plane but the most beautiful of them all was the late 90s-mid 2000s US Airways colours. Magnificent.

Unfortunately growing up in Australia means I hardly ever got to fly on one. But I did get to do a short sector on the Privilege Style 757 from Rhodes to Tel Aviv... uncomfortable, all-Y cabin but it was a rare 757 so I was chuffed.
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:58 pm

I don't know the reason for the switch from PW to RR at UPS but I suspect UPS had some issues with reliability on the PW models. Ours have the PW2040s which are slightly higher thrust than the PW2037s on pax birds.

Our 757s don't operate EWR-CGN, all TATL segments are flown by 767s/MD11s except for ferry flights. 757s do fly to S. America and within Europe and Asia and of course all over N. America.
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:52 pm

BravoOne wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
FlyUSAir wrote:
The 757/767 is and was fantastic aircraft. Look at how long they've lasted, how popular they are, and the missions they've taken. No aircraft matches up to what they are.


My very first flight on a 757 was courtesy of Eastern Airlines, one of the few markets that originally saw their 757's was SEA & PDX. I remember it was a clear night, the air crisp & as the few of us that had boarded in Seattle, walked down the jetway, you could still smell that new plane smell wafting from the open L-2 door.

From the waiting area, I watched this shiny new bird, with fresh paint & a huge 757 on the tail, pulls close, turns & parks at the gate, all the time hearing an engine I was unfamiliar with, but knew I wanted to know more about.

As the rather empty 757 was prepared for departure, I knew this was going to be a treat. The seats were nicer than the L-1011 & 727's that operated the SEA-PDX route prior.

Then the door was closed, we were pushed back & taxied for what seemed like an eternity. As we approached the keyboard from the taxiway, the pilot hit the throttle & we were off, like a freaking rocket, head pushed into the headrest take off, we had almost no time on the runway, with light fuel & passengers we got airborne fast & then like a fighter jet we ascended rapidly, I was giggling in my seat.

We went to 20-25k got 10 minutes of cruise time, saw a beautiful full moon & I got a great descent as well, this pilot was enjoying his new toy & it was fun. I remember landing like a dream onto the north runway & going to a gate at the end of what is now concourse C


"Pilot hit the throttle"?? I'm pretty sure I know what you mean but it's so wrong.....


Wow, you know what I am referring to & yet a totally unneeded comment. It's this need to be splitting hairs mentality & spite that makes participating here a chore rather than an enjoyment.
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:19 am

MBSDALHOU wrote:
They've always been a beauty to look at and love flying on them! Sad to see them go, but they aren't getting any younger.


To be fair, the rest of today's NB fleet (A320-2X1 and -2X2 especially) isn't getting much younger either, and the 737-800 feels like the year 1997 was stuffed into a fuselage lol.
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:47 am

Varsity1 wrote:

The best of them all.



Couldn't agree anymore sir.

But from one of the biggest "Tee Dub" fans out there, this comes in a close second.

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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:02 am

I love the 757. I'm glad they are easy to find in the US.

My shortest flight on one is ATL-FLL (583 mi) and my longest is IAD-LIS (3587 mi)
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:54 am

I was scheduled to fly on one of China Southern's 757s from Urumqi to Dubai last April whilst flying from Seoul to Dubai via Beijing and Urumqi. GMP-PEK flight was delayed and so I got rebooked PEK-SZX-WUH-DXB on an A321 and A330. Absolutely devastated considering how rare the type is in Asia.
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:06 am

Yeah.....the capability of the 757 is amazing. I've flown them on sectors as short as RIC to ATL to many transcon flights and the 757 always felt like a cross between a tank and a fighter jet.

I was pleased to fly DL 753 recently from LAS to ATL. That's a long plane.
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:33 am

The references to the 757 having a rough ride in turbulence are very accurate.
It has a very stiff wing which really does not soak up the bumps very well.

The 767 has a far more flexible wing and a much better ride when it gets choppy.
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:30 am

AirCal737, MartijnNL,

Apologies, CZ never operated the 757-300...

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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:05 am

RWA380 wrote:
BravoOne wrote:
RWA380 wrote:

My very first flight on a 757 was courtesy of Eastern Airlines, one of the few markets that originally saw their 757's was SEA & PDX. I remember it was a clear night, the air crisp & as the few of us that had boarded in Seattle, walked down the jetway, you could still smell that new plane smell wafting from the open L-2 door.

From the waiting area, I watched this shiny new bird, with fresh paint & a huge 757 on the tail, pulls close, turns & parks at the gate, all the time hearing an engine I was unfamiliar with, but knew I wanted to know more about.

As the rather empty 757 was prepared for departure, I knew this was going to be a treat. The seats were nicer than the L-1011 & 727's that operated the SEA-PDX route prior.

Then the door was closed, we were pushed back & taxied for what seemed like an eternity. As we approached the keyboard from the taxiway, the pilot hit the throttle & we were off, like a freaking rocket, head pushed into the headrest take off, we had almost no time on the runway, with light fuel & passengers we got airborne fast & then like a fighter jet we ascended rapidly, I was giggling in my seat.

We went to 20-25k got 10 minutes of cruise time, saw a beautiful full moon & I got a great descent as well, this pilot was enjoying his new toy & it was fun. I remember landing like a dream onto the north runway & going to a gate at the end of what is now concourse C


"Pilot hit the throttle"?? I'm pretty sure I know what you mean but it's so wrong.....


Wow, you know what I am referring to & yet a totally unneeded comment. It's this need to be splitting hairs mentality & spite that makes participating here a chore rather than an enjoyment.


That's OK as I said previously I mistakenly thought I was on a Tech thread. Still wrong but I see it does not matter. So be it.
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:05 pm

PC12Fan wrote:

Couldn't agree anymore sir.

But from one of the biggest "Tee Dub" fans out there, this comes in a close second.


Dude...the Widget looked good on every single plane they had. And I still don't like their now decade-old livery...hell I hate AA's too. Maybe I'm just a hata.
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:26 pm

STT757 wrote:
I've had the pleasure of flying on 757s from AA, DL (both premerger DL, and post merger NWA) , UA (pre merger), CO and EA. My first 757 flight was on Eastern, EWR-MCO Summer 1988. As soon as I boarded it felt so much more modern than the 737s and 727s I was used to constantly flying. I've flown on the 752 and 753. Some highlights:

EA EWR-MCO
CO EWR-BCN (in 2006 prior to winglets and AVOD installation).
Pre-Merger UA JFK-SFO/LAX P.S. service (flew in F ! )
AA STT-SJU-EWR (where I got my username)

I could go on and on.


I forgot I also flew on a US 757, PHL-MCO.

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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:42 pm

Planetalk wrote:
As a plane geek I love the 757, but really, you get 30 seconds of thrills on takeoff and then it's worse than a 737 for comfort because it's as cramped, just longer. It's a pretty uncomfortable plane for more than 3 hours, like any narrowbody.


This is true - enjoyed the hops from LLW to ADD on ETs 757s, if we were lucky with routing we would get a stop in FBM, which meant an extra landing and rocket takeoff. Awesome. Stopping at FBM had the added excitement of watching old DC8s going about their cargo business before making some hard to watch takeoffs... :shock: :wideeyed: :cloudnine:

HOWEVER there was NO LOVE for the 8 hour flight between ADD and LHR or vice versa in the 757. That was truly not nice! :shakehead:
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:58 pm

Polot wrote:
garpd wrote:
The 757, was not. It was designed as a mainline fleet aircraft operating to well eqipped airports so was given the necesarry long legs to allow ground clearance for the engines.

Boeing was also compensating for their mistakes made with the 707, which they found difficult to stretch ala the DC-8 due to its shorter landing gear.



Mmmm, no. The 707 was from a completely different era. The considerations taken in the design of either model are different. The 707 was one of the first Jetliners and had to be serviceable at airports where propliners were still prevalent. So it was low to the ground to allow as much of the existing equipment and architecture to be used as was possible. The 757 was designed in an era where air travel was common place and well equipped airports the norm. While true the design decisions of the 707 limited it's stretchability, it is hardly a mistake. It was a decision. Not an oversight.
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:58 pm

Just last year, I went to Iceland for stagg party on Easyjet - turned out I was sat next to a young Monarch A320 pilot (the on-board beers brought this out). After we landed, he took out his phone and started taking pictures of the Icelandair 757s parked on the tarmac while his mates gave him a hard time for being a pilot taking pictures of planes. His response was, "I missed my chance to fly those at Monarch, they are legendarily overpowered". Gave me a warm fuzzy feeling knowing that even a pilot was in awe of the 757.

Best part is; due to work I had to fly out on Icelandair to a different destination and I savoured every moment of that 757 flight, especially knowing it could be one of my last... :D :D
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:03 pm

garpd wrote:
Polot wrote:
garpd wrote:
The 757, was not. It was designed as a mainline fleet aircraft operating to well eqipped airports so was given the necesarry long legs to allow ground clearance for the engines.

Boeing was also compensating for their mistakes made with the 707, which they found difficult to stretch ala the DC-8 due to its shorter landing gear.



Mmmm, no. The 707 was from a completely different era. The considerations taken in the design of either model are different. The 707 was one of the first Jetliners and had to be serviceable at airports where propliners were still prevalent. So it was low to the ground to allow as much of the existing equipment and architecture to be used as was possible. The 757 was designed in an era where air travel was common place and well equipped airports the norm. While true the design decisions of the 707 limited it's stretchability, it is hardly a mistake. It was a decision. Not an oversight.

"Mistake" may have been the wrong word to use in regards to the 707, but ease of future stretches was definitely a consideration when it came to determining the 757's gear length. Boeing did not place much thought (understandably, being their first commercial jet from a company then known more for its military, and not commercial, planes) into that with the 707, and they saw the advantages the longer gear brought to the DC-8.
 
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Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:14 pm

Polot wrote:
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Agreed :)
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:19 pm

How I wish that I had started a flight log way back when. Amongst other things....

Favorite 757 memory was a flight on UA from ORD to SAC. Some time into the flight the FO announced that he was preempting Channel 9 to talk about the 757 and flying in general. That lasted over a half hour, after which he invited the passengers to ask questions. A FA strolled the aisle collecting the questions and another half-hour was used for the answers. Never before and never again. I wish I could thank that aviator for the absolute best flight ever.

In reference to a previous comment, I started calling the 757, the Hawk. Distinctive head, long body and talons. When landing, a perfect description. Others were the Goose (767), Swan (747) and Robin (737). Note - 737s were shorter back then. To me, Airbuses just looked like planes.
 
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Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:06 pm

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I do believe Song had the best livery to ever grace a 752


Oof! You would be the only one! ;)
 
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Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:38 pm

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airtrantpa wrote:
I do believe Song had the best livery to ever grace a 752


Oof! You would be the only one! ;)


Compared to Deltaflot and Ron Allen, it was a breath of fresh air. I wish the whole fleet had received Song paint. :-)
 
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Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:04 pm

BN727227Ultra wrote:
catiii wrote:
airtrantpa wrote:
I do believe Song had the best livery to ever grace a 752


Oof! You would be the only one! ;)


Compared to Deltaflot and Ron Allen, it was a breath of fresh air. I wish the whole fleet had received Song paint. :-)


Yeah, that lime green pretty sweet. Even the pink,(I was disappointed when they painted the pink plane, but the bcrf pink plane was pretty striking). IIRC song was supposed to paint planes in different colours, but never did. That would have looked cool in blue, red,yellow,orange besides.green and pink).
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:15 pm

First 757 flight was in 1987. Somehow America West flew a 757 from MSP to Mazatlan. Maybe it was a charter. I was only 9 years old at the time. But I have flown on the 757 dozens of times with NWA, Delta, and recently Icelandair. My favorite plane by far. Has a feeling of a big plane in a narrow body. And the power is unrivaled. It gets up and goes compared to a 737 or A320.

I cant believe Delta has a 757 running MKE to MSP. They use CRJs into Midway. And I hate them. I fly to MKE a couple times a year on Southwest. I'd pay a premium to hope on a 757 for this flight.
 
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Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:33 pm

Echoing others, the 757 is by far my favorite and sorry to see them slowly depart. My first ride on the 757 was a NW segment, DTW-PHL in September, 1989. My favorite 757 experiences was flying it on the River Visual to DCA...always a thrill.
 
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Re: The Mighty 757

Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:43 pm

What's really fun for us cargo types is that we often fly at very light weights, or even empty at times. Even at max derated thrust, she will get up and go in hurry. The other pilot has to be ready to move the flaps quickly!
 
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Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:50 pm

UPS757Pilot wrote:
What's really fun for us cargo types is that we often fly at very light weights, or even empty at times. Even at max derated thrust, she will get up and go in hurry. The other pilot has to be ready to move the flaps quickly!


That would be a bucket list experience! Very cool.
 
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Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:02 pm

Do you guys think Boeing might restart the production of the 757? I think it got potential.
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Re: The Mighty 757

Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:26 am

fallap wrote:
Do you guys think Boeing might restart the production of the 757? I think it got potential.


The 757 was discontinued because no-one would but it. This was not a quick decision. It's a 1982 airplane. I love it too. Time to move on. The NMA should be a great replacement.
 
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Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:30 am

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Do you guys think Boeing might restart the production of the 757? I think it got potential.


We almost got away with it too ! :D

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