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Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:45 pm

Where would Emirates fly if there were no restrictions in bilateral agreements? In which markets would they increase frequency if there were no such restrictions?

The first destination that comes to mind is Berlin - I presume 2x daily on B777-300 to begin with. Do you think they would start flights to other cities in Germany such as STR? In which other European countries is EK constrained by air service agreements?

I guess they would increase YYZ to at least daily and start YUL. Do you think they would start YVR?

I guess they would quickly increase frequency to ICN, CAN, PVG and probably add new destinations in China (which?).

Plus obviously, they would increase capacity to India.

And a bonus question - if they could start any route in the world with full fifth freedom rights, what would be EK's first choice and why :) ?
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:57 pm

konkret wrote:
Where would Emirates fly if there were no restrictions in bilateral agreements? In which markets would they increase frequency if there were no such restrictions?

The first destination that comes to mind is Berlin - I presume 2x daily on B777-300 to begin with. Do you think they would start flights to other cities in Germany such as STR? In which other European countries is constrained by air service agreements?

I guess they would increase YYZ to at least daily and start YUL. Do you think they would start YVR?

I guess they would quickly increase frequency to ICN, CAN, PVG and probably add new destinations in China (which?).

Plus obviously, they would increase capacity to India.

And a bonus question - if they could start any route in the world with full fifth freedom rights, what would be EK's first choice and why :) ?


In Canada, I could see increased YYZ and the addition of YUL and YVR without a doubt. Possibly YYC too.

In China, I could see the addition of Chengdu, Jinan, Wuhan, and Xiamen or Fuzhou. Also, Shenzhen is the largest metro area technically not served by EK, although obviously HKG and CAN serve the area quite well.

Mexico City is the largest metro area in the world that they don't serve (aside from Shenzhen), so that is a big gaping hole I am sure they would love to fill.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:59 pm

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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:32 pm

Probably Toulouse in France and maybe Marseille in a longer term.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:39 pm

Entire India.

For 5th freedom flights, everything out of DEL and BOM.
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:40 pm

Are their any restrictions on Emirates flying additional routes into France or has Emirates simply not bothered.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:42 pm

AsiaTravel wrote:
Probably Toulouse in France and maybe Marseille in a longer term.


Curious why Toulouse before Marseille when the Marseille metro area is roughly 27% larger than Toulouse?
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:47 pm

DXB-TLV could be a popular destination...
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:05 pm

sw733 wrote:
konkret wrote:
Where would Emirates fly if there were no restrictions in bilateral agreements? In which markets would they increase frequency if there were no such restrictions?

The first destination that comes to mind is Berlin - I presume 2x daily on B777-300 to begin with. Do you think they would start flights to other cities in Germany such as STR? In which other European countries is constrained by air service agreements?

I guess they would increase YYZ to at least daily and start YUL. Do you think they would start YVR?

I guess they would quickly increase frequency to ICN, CAN, PVG and probably add new destinations in China (which?).

Plus obviously, they would increase capacity to India.

And a bonus question - if they could start any route in the world with full fifth freedom rights, what would be EK's first choice and why :) ?


In Canada, I could see increased YYZ and the addition of YUL and YVR without a doubt. Possibly YYC too.

In China, I could see the addition of Chengdu, Jinan, Wuhan, and Xiamen or Fuzhou. Also, Shenzhen is the largest metro area technically not served by EK, although obviously HKG and CAN serve the area quite well.

Mexico City is the largest metro area in the world that they don't serve (aside from Shenzhen), so that is a big gaping hole I am sure they would love to fill.


But Mexico City has very high altitude. It would require one stop service through Europe to serve MEX from DXB.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:31 pm

flyingclrs727 wrote:
sw733 wrote:
konkret wrote:
Where would Emirates fly if there were no restrictions in bilateral agreements? In which markets would they increase frequency if there were no such restrictions?

The first destination that comes to mind is Berlin - I presume 2x daily on B777-300 to begin with. Do you think they would start flights to other cities in Germany such as STR? In which other European countries is constrained by air service agreements?

I guess they would increase YYZ to at least daily and start YUL. Do you think they would start YVR?

I guess they would quickly increase frequency to ICN, CAN, PVG and probably add new destinations in China (which?).

Plus obviously, they would increase capacity to India.

And a bonus question - if they could start any route in the world with full fifth freedom rights, what would be EK's first choice and why :) ?


In Canada, I could see increased YYZ and the addition of YUL and YVR without a doubt. Possibly YYC too.

In China, I could see the addition of Chengdu, Jinan, Wuhan, and Xiamen or Fuzhou. Also, Shenzhen is the largest metro area technically not served by EK, although obviously HKG and CAN serve the area quite well.

Mexico City is the largest metro area in the world that they don't serve (aside from Shenzhen), so that is a big gaping hole I am sure they would love to fill.


But Mexico City has very high altitude. It would require one stop service through Europe to serve MEX from DXB.


Well this is already a hypothetical thread so I don't see the issue with my bringing up MEX.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:41 pm

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DXB-TLV could be a popular destination...


It really would. EK could make a ton of money funneling passengers in and out of TLV. They have the muscle to engage LY in a fare war and bury them, if they wanted. For obvious reasons, It'll never happen.
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:42 pm

Hypo thread boss!

But since we are talking, I am surprised EK dont fly to NAG yet. Most convenient connecting point for all of Central India!
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:46 pm

sw733 wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
sw733 wrote:

In Canada, I could see increased YYZ and the addition of YUL and YVR without a doubt. Possibly YYC too.

In China, I could see the addition of Chengdu, Jinan, Wuhan, and Xiamen or Fuzhou. Also, Shenzhen is the largest metro area technically not served by EK, although obviously HKG and CAN serve the area quite well.

Mexico City is the largest metro area in the world that they don't serve (aside from Shenzhen), so that is a big gaping hole I am sure they would love to fill.


But Mexico City has very high altitude. It would require one stop service through Europe to serve MEX from DXB.


Well this is already a hypothetical thread so I don't see the issue with my bringing up MEX.

Why would Mexico City altitude effect Emirates decision to fly there? Surely their 777 300er and 777 200lr have the range?
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:50 pm

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AsiaTravel wrote:
Probably Toulouse in France and maybe Marseille in a longer term.


Curious why Toulouse before Marseille when the Marseille metro area is roughly 27% larger than Toulouse?


Well, everytime we hear about Emirates wanting to open new routes in France in a french newspaper we hear about Toulouse. I guess yield might be better there than in Marseille. Also Marseille is less isolated than Toulouse, it only take an hour and a half to reach LYS airport by train and three hours to get to CDG airport. Eventually we could see both route happening, even maybe in a triangular pattern but that would probably require more traffic rights.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:52 pm

I know this probably won't happen, but BUF with a possible stopover in Europe.
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:58 pm

Jerry123 wrote:
sw733 wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:

But Mexico City has very high altitude. It would require one stop service through Europe to serve MEX from DXB.


Well this is already a hypothetical thread so I don't see the issue with my bringing up MEX.

Why would Mexico City altitude effect Emirates decision to fly there? Surely their 777 300er and 777 200lr have the range?


Runway length.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:09 pm

BawliBooch wrote:
Hypo thread boss!

But since we are talking, I am surprised EK dont fly to NAG yet. Most convenient connecting point for all of Central India!

More of a FZ destination don't you think? Probably not enough traffic to support a WB? I believe QR sends an A320 and not sure if it's daily either.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:40 pm

Jerry123 wrote:
Why would Mexico City altitude effect Emirates decision to fly there? Surely their 777 300er and 777 200lr have the range?


As has been explained, MEX has a double situation of "short" runway length and high altitude against it. MEX-DXB/AUH/DOH is not profitably feasible even on the 77L or A345. It remains to be seen whether an A359ULR could do it profitably. The new MEX will have longer runways, so maybe the next decade a nonstop flight to/from one of the three Middle East hubs could happen. In the meantime, it has been rumored that EK is looking at DXB-ZRH-MEX or DXB-BCN-MEX but nothing has been announced.
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:49 pm

sw733 wrote:
konkret wrote:
Where would Emirates fly if there were no restrictions in bilateral agreements? In which markets would they increase frequency if there were no such restrictions?

The first destination that comes to mind is Berlin - I presume 2x daily on B777-300 to begin with. Do you think they would start flights to other cities in Germany such as STR? In which other European countries is constrained by air service agreements?

I guess they would increase YYZ to at least daily and start YUL. Do you think they would start YVR?

I guess they would quickly increase frequency to ICN, CAN, PVG and probably add new destinations in China (which?).

Plus obviously, they would increase capacity to India.

And a bonus question - if they could start any route in the world with full fifth freedom rights, what would be EK's first choice and why :) ?


In Canada, I could see increased YYZ and the addition of YUL and YVR without a doubt. Possibly YYC too.

In China, I could see the addition of Chengdu, Jinan, Wuhan, and Xiamen or Fuzhou. Also, Shenzhen is the largest metro area technically not served by EK, although obviously HKG and CAN serve the area quite well.

Mexico City is the largest metro area in the world that they don't serve (aside from Shenzhen), so that is a big gaping hole I am sure they would love to fill.


Until the bilaterals are renegotiated, EK cannot grow anywhere in Canada, With just 3x weekly, the are maxed out at YYZ.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:54 pm

5th freedom from MAN or BHX one day to somewhere in the states possibly.
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:46 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
I know this probably won't happen, but BUF with a possible stopover in Europe.


There is open skies between UAE and USA so EK could already be flying to BUF if they wanted.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:56 pm

Increase frequency to London, Toronto, Manila
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:38 pm

to Doha ;)
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:00 pm

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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:01 pm

konkret wrote:
Where would Emirates fly if there were no restrictions in bilateral agreements? In which markets would they increase frequency if there were no such restrictions?

The first destination that comes to mind is Berlin - I presume 2x daily on B777-300 to begin with. Do you think they would start flights to other cities in Germany such as STR? In which other European countries is EK constrained by air service agreements?

I guess they would increase YYZ to at least daily and start YUL. Do you think they would start YVR?

I guess they would quickly increase frequency to ICN, CAN, PVG and probably add new destinations in China (which?).

Plus obviously, they would increase capacity to India.

And a bonus question - if they could start any route in the world with full fifth freedom rights, what would be EK's first choice and why :) ?

For 5th freedom, they might dump capacity on LHR-JFK if they could. Either that or a Europe-US market with weak service ATM (something like what they did with ATH and MXP)
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:17 pm

Hawaii
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:21 pm

Detroit but there are just to many road blocks in cracking this market.
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:37 pm

Belgrade , Bucharest and Sofia seem like big holes. I don't think daily but they could do 2-3 weekly each but maybe the ego is getting in the way.
And how about Atlanta, two of the three biggest airports and there is no connection?
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:50 pm

ASQ400 wrote:
konkret wrote:
Where would Emirates fly if there were no restrictions in bilateral agreements? In which markets would they increase frequency if there were no such restrictions?

The first destination that comes to mind is Berlin - I presume 2x daily on B777-300 to begin with. Do you think they would start flights to other cities in Germany such as STR? In which other European countries is EK constrained by air service agreements?

I guess they would increase YYZ to at least daily and start YUL. Do you think they would start YVR?

I guess they would quickly increase frequency to ICN, CAN, PVG and probably add new destinations in China (which?).

Plus obviously, they would increase capacity to India.

And a bonus question - if they could start any route in the world with full fifth freedom rights, what would be EK's first choice and why :) ?

For 5th freedom, they might dump capacity on LHR-JFK if they could. Either that or a Europe-US market with weak service ATM (something like what they did with ATH and MXP)


I couldn't see them using an LHR slot on a market where your going up against the BA/AA joint venture + Virgin + Delta. LHR is EK's biggest market with premium cabin's mostly full I'm led to believe, so I just couldn't see them using a landing and take off slot and both LHR and JFK just to wind up BA and the US3.
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:03 pm

FSD and FAR are the first to come to mind....
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:20 pm

Phoenix!

But a lot of the destinations mentioned are already served by FlyDubai. I view FlyDubai as the Dragonair of Emirates, serving as a feeder to these types of destinations. They have the same owner for goodness sake. Marseilles seems like a perfect FlyDubai destination.
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:39 pm

Guangzhou-Lagos/Dakar, nonstop...
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:40 pm

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Phoenix!

But a lot of the destinations mentioned are already served by FlyDubai. I view FlyDubai as the Dragonair of Emirates, serving as a feeder to these types of destinations. They have the same owner for goodness sake. Marseilles seems like a perfect FlyDubai destination.

I think you almost nailed it. But I think it would be that other airport in Arizona where big planes land...MZJ. That way they don't have to lose money on flying their too many and too big planes around. :duck:
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:56 pm

Hicksville. Seems to me they want to fly a 380 to every darn village on this blue marble.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:14 am

Perhaps they'll attempt to take a leaf out of Pan Am's book...

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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:27 am

My candidates are:

-Canada (Increase YYZ to 7 Weekly, + new service to YUL & YVR)
-USA (DEN, ATL)
-Mexico (MEX, when the airport could handle the flight due to altitude)
-Panama. (PTY, it was going to be launched but never happended...)
-Peru/Chile/Colombia. (Best performing countries in South America. EK could launch either SCL, LIM or BOG)
-UK. (EDI)
-Spain. (AGP)
-France. (TLS, MRS... I have my doubts, not such profitable routes like LYS or NCE, but let's see what happens..)
-Germany. (TXL, for obvious reasons & STR, quite wealthy city)
-Finland. (HEL, could be successfully performed by EK eventhough Finnair's Competition)
-Serbia. (BEG, largest balkan market, but it will be more reachable with smaller aircraft)
-Romania. (OTP, the same as BEG)
-Turkey. (ESB, capital of Turkey and really underserved. Btw I think QR flies the route)
-Azerbaijan. (GYD, great hole in EK network but is the same case as OTP and BEG, this route needs smaller aircraft such as 787 or 332/333)
-Cameroon & Gabon. (I think a triangular route such as DXB-DLA-LBV could work with 772, as this countries are one of the best economies in West Africa and need to have one stop service to Asia)
-Kazakhstan. (TSE & ALA have a lot of demand to DXB, this routes could be highly profitable)
-China. (Lot of Secondary cities)
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:47 am

konkret wrote:
Where would Emirates fly if there were no restrictions in bilateral agreements? In which markets would they increase frequency if there were no such restrictions?

The first destination that comes to mind is Berlin - I presume 2x daily on B777-300 to begin with. Do you think they would start flights to other cities in Germany such as STR? In which other European countries is EK constrained by air service agreements?

I guess they would increase YYZ to at least daily and start YUL. Do you think they would start YVR?

I guess they would quickly increase frequency to ICN, CAN, PVG and probably add new destinations in China (which?).

Plus obviously, they would increase capacity to India.

And a bonus question - if they could start any route in the world with full fifth freedom rights, what would be EK's first choice and why :) ?


Bilaterals arent the only issue. Slots are, especially at DXB, which handles over 450,000 movements a year with closely spaced parallel runways. Not much room to add flights. EK has slowed down expansion of late. There is a reason for that. More airlines need to move to DWC for EK to go on a massive expansion phase.

Also, good luck getting decent slots at PVG and PEK.
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:48 am

konkret wrote:
Where would Emirates fly if there were no restrictions in bilateral agreements? In which markets would they increase frequency if there were no such restrictions?

The first destination that comes to mind is Berlin - I presume 2x daily on B777-300 to begin with. Do you think they would start flights to other cities in Germany such as STR? In which other European countries is EK constrained by air service agreements?
Berlin is definitely one EK top wish destination list. Could the Germany - UAE bilateral as it is now allow 3-4 per week DXB-SXF scheduled charters?
I guess they would increase YYZ to at least daily and start YUL. Do you think they would start YVR?
No doubt if they could. Add to that DXB-YYC. Again, question, Would Canada allow EK scheduled charters?
And a bonus question - if they could start any route in the world with full fifth freedom rights, what would be EK's first choice and why :) ?
London-New York with A380. London LHR that's, even if the UK could allow EK STN-EWR for the "EK London - New York experience", that kind of venture might not really fit EK prestige model.
As for other 5th freedom routes:
London - Los Angeles, again LHR - LAX not something like STN - ONT,
London - Miami, LHR not STN..
Cool would be to see EK flying transpacific linking EK destinations between Oceania/Asia and North/South America.
And, IMHO, EK top wish-destination - which it has not been able to fly as for now:
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:50 am

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Jayafe wrote:
DXB-TLV could be a popular destination...


It really would. EK could make a ton of money funneling passengers in and out of TLV. They have the muscle to engage LY in a fare war and bury them, if they wanted. For obvious reasons, It'll never happen.


LY has a very specific clientele. I guarantee they would never abandon LY for EK. LY has their target demographic locked up and will never lose it. And considering said demographic is the largest growing group in Israel, they really shouldn't be concerned.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:00 am

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I think you almost nailed it. But I think it would be that other airport in Arizona where big planes land...MZJ. That way they don't have to lose money on flying their too many and too big planes around. :duck:


That's pretty funny! What's the airport in the SW Valley that has some too, Goodyear?
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:28 am

AUH :stirthepot:
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:34 am

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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:26 am

DXB-MEM because why not :D
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:46 am

Doha, TLV and possible KTM?
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:02 am

konkret wrote:
Where would Emirates fly if there were no restrictions in bilateral agreements? In which markets would they increase frequency if there were no such restrictions?

The first destination that comes to mind is Berlin - I presume 2x daily on B777-300 to begin with. Do you think they would start flights to other cities in Germany such as STR? In which other European countries is EK constrained by air service agreements?

I guess they would increase YYZ to at least daily and start YUL. Do you think they would start YVR?

I guess they would quickly increase frequency to ICN, CAN, PVG and probably add new destinations in China (which?).

Plus obviously, they would increase capacity to India.

And a bonus question - if they could start any route in the world with full fifth freedom rights, what would be EK's first choice and why :) ?


Well :scratchchin: they would first of all cancel all the 777x's on order and order around 500 A380's :spin:
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:51 am

YYZ, YVR, YUL all about 35x daily. Oh and Lukla.
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:04 am

Luisvalero wrote:
My candidates are:

-Canada (Increase YYZ to 7 Weekly, + new service to YUL & YVR)
-USA (DEN, ATL)
-Mexico (MEX, when the airport could handle the flight due to altitude)
-Panama. (PTY, it was going to be launched but never happended...)
-Peru/Chile/Colombia. (Best performing countries in South America. EK could launch either SCL, LIM or BOG)
-UK. (EDI)
-Spain. (AGP)
-France. (TLS, MRS... I have my doubts, not such profitable routes like LYS or NCE, but let's see what happens..)
-Germany. (TXL, for obvious reasons & STR, quite wealthy city)
-Finland. (HEL, could be successfully performed by EK eventhough Finnair's Competition)
-Serbia. (BEG, largest balkan market, but it will be more reachable with smaller aircraft)
-Romania. (OTP, the same as BEG)
-Turkey. (ESB, capital of Turkey and really underserved. Btw I think QR flies the route)
-Azerbaijan. (GYD, great hole in EK network but is the same case as OTP and BEG, this route needs smaller aircraft such as 787 or 332/333)
-Cameroon & Gabon. (I think a triangular route such as DXB-DLA-LBV could work with 772, as this countries are one of the best economies in West Africa and need to have one stop service to Asia)
-Kazakhstan. (TSE & ALA have a lot of demand to DXB, this routes could be highly profitable)
-China. (Lot of Secondary cities)


Many of the places you said have no restriction at all for EK, so if EK does not fly there is because lack of proper equipment or lack of business case, except Canada, China and Berlin, that ones are because EK can't do it.


Thenoflyzone wrote:
konkret wrote:
Where would Emirates fly if there were no restrictions in bilateral agreements? In which markets would they increase frequency if there were no such restrictions?

The first destination that comes to mind is Berlin - I presume 2x daily on B777-300 to begin with. Do you think they would start flights to other cities in Germany such as STR? In which other European countries is EK constrained by air service agreements?

I guess they would increase YYZ to at least daily and start YUL. Do you think they would start YVR?

I guess they would quickly increase frequency to ICN, CAN, PVG and probably add new destinations in China (which?).

Plus obviously, they would increase capacity to India.

And a bonus question - if they could start any route in the world with full fifth freedom rights, what would be EK's first choice and why :) ?


Bilaterals arent the only issue. Slots are, especially at DXB, which handles over 450,000 movements a year with closely spaced parallel runways. Not much room to add flights. EK has slowed down expansion of late. There is a reason for that. More airlines need to move to DWC for EK to go on a massive expansion phase.

Also, good luck getting decent slots at PVG and PEK.


I think getting slots in PVG and PEK is an issue, but it could be fixed, the problem in Dubia is more complicated, it's almost max capacity because of the banks EK uses, but I think using even more remote parkings for loading and offloading could still increase the capacity, also a part of the terminal, the southwest side of T3 is not used right now because parking issues but soon it will be ready and few more gates will be available for EK.

I think the obvious places have been said already, Canada, Germany, some more China, TLS, I think Marseille is very close to NCE and it just upgauge to A380, more London, flights are very very full to LHR and LGW in all classes, more India flights, currently limited by bilaterals in number of seats, so can't deploy A380's or open new destinations. KTM has been mention before and I think it is just an issue with Nepalese authorities, otherwise I am sure KTM will be in EK network time ago.

I think we will see EZE going non-stop soon, and maybe GIG will get another tag, maybe SCL.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:56 am

Easter Island. Not that there's anything to gain for them there, but just for the pride of the furthest route in the world. I mean, is there any place further possible from Dubai?
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:00 am

Caracas, Havana, Pyongyang.
 
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Re: Where would EK fly if they could

Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:25 am

angelopga wrote:
Pyongyang.


1 A380 daily, at least.

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