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HOP! Pilots To Go On Strike July 12-18 Because They Are Tired

Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:02 pm

The last strike at at AF has been awhile and now HOP! pilots feel it's their turn. They are tired and don't want to talk with AF management any longer.

The Hop! Pilots fear that this derogatory system will amplify the internal problems they denounce and which are at the origin of the strike notice from 13 to 18 July. These include difficulties in working conditions such as increased crew fatigue, lack of anticipation of the many departures to Air France - resulting in a severe under-manning or the lack of harmonization between the provisions of Former Airlinair, Brit Air and Regional entities. (Google translate)
http://www.tourmag.com/HOP--le-SNPL-mai ... 88202.html

The mentality of AF pilots is truly disgusting.
 
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Re: HOP! Pilots To Go On Strike July 12-18 Because They Are Tired

Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:31 pm

Fatigue is a major issue for pilots across Europe, particularly since the new EASA FTLs were introduced. There's a difference between being tired and 'fatigued', I suggest you look it up before you cast your, seemingly misinformed, judgement.
 
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Re: HOP! Pilots To Go On Strike July 12-18 Because They Are Tired

Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:35 pm

planesarecool wrote:
There's a difference between being tired and 'fatigued', I suggest you look it up before you cast your, seemingly misinformed, judgement.

I would suggest that management and labor figure out how to get their shit together overall, because (whether deserved or not) this airline and its associates have developed a reputation for screwing over pax's schedules due to strikes as a go-to response.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: HOP! Pilots To Go On Strike July 12-18 Because They Are Tired

Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:56 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
planesarecool wrote:
There's a difference between being tired and 'fatigued', I suggest you look it up before you cast your, seemingly misinformed, judgement.

I would suggest that management and labor figure out how to get their shit together overall, because (whether deserved or not) this airline and its associates have developed a reputation for screwing over pax's schedules due to strikes as a go-to response.


Possibly. If I'm honest, I'm not particularly interested, or surprised, by the story. I just wanted to highlight that fatigue IS an issue amongst pilots, and some people go about in different ways than others. Unless you work for a certain Irish airline, most pilots across Europe will call fatigued at least once or twice per year, some more than others. Pilots fly tired all the time, but fatigue is a different beast altogether.
 
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Re: HOP! Pilots To Go On Strike July 12-18 Because They Are Tired

Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:00 pm

planesarecool wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
planesarecool wrote:
There's a difference between being tired and 'fatigued', I suggest you look it up before you cast your, seemingly misinformed, judgement.

I would suggest that management and labor figure out how to get their shit together overall, because (whether deserved or not) this airline and its associates have developed a reputation for screwing over pax's schedules due to strikes as a go-to response.

Possibly. If I'm honest, I'm not particularly interested, or surprised, by the story. I just wanted to highlight that fatigue IS an issue amongst pilots, and some people go about in different ways than others. Unless you work for a certain Irish airline, most pilots across Europe will call fatigued at least once or twice per year, some more than others. Pilots fly tired all the time, but fatigue is a different beast altogether.

I don't disagree. It's a major issue worth attention.

It's just that employees of the likes of AF, LH, etc have allegedly cried wolf so many times in their strikes, that when an issue that truly does compromise safety and the efficient operation of an airline arises-- it potentially falls on deaf ears.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil

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