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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:16 am
by SJOtoLIR
AASAP777 wrote:
I think they want to depart SAP as soon as the game is over at the Olímpico to minimize jetlag and not to loose that much time because once arriving in SYD the game will be in three days.

From the Australian side, I've heard from non-official sources that they will land in Central America almost one week before the match in San Pedro Sula.
They will stay some days in Nicaragua.
I ignore the route of that charter flight from Australia.

Regards.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:34 am
by SJOtoLIR
juanchito wrote:
Starting november 19. Volaris will add the following routes using A319.
GUA-TIJ
SAL-TIJ


These routes seem to be a back-up for Los Angeles.
I don't beleive in any large market between Central America and Tijuana.
It also should be noted that both GUA and SAL are the crowdest regional stations for LAX. That being said, it's hard to believe on any SJO-TIJ.
With reference to the participation of Avianca in such market, the former TACA studyied ONT as a back-up for LAX more than 10 years ago. It never came into fruition.
TA also flew SAL-OAK for a little while.
They have never tried AV SAL-FLL or AV GUA-FLL
These projects don't seem to fit within their business plans.

Regards.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:49 am
by SJOtoLIR
tommyarias wrote:
I mentioned MAD as it's the stop for the GRU flights. Chinese citizens need a visa to transit in the USA, but they have visa free transit in Canada. On the European side, connecting at a Star Alliance hub seems logical, except for FRA as LH already has a flight to PTY, so the other options are LHR, ZRH, WAW, and MUC.

Remember how JL dropped in the past NRT-YVR-MEX and NRT-JFK-GRU, being Mexico City and Sao Paulo by far larger Latin American markets than Panama City.
Emirates and ANA had also studyied PTY. Same with Air China at SJO.
I visualize a thin market between Asia and Central America.

Regards.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:59 am
by SJOtoLIR
Copa Airlines will upgrade MSY-PTY 4x weekly from E90 to 73G.
Effective: January 01 - February 28.


CM will resume SXM-PTY service from January 02nd as twice a week.
Flights were suspended since the Hurricane Irma.

Regards.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:26 pm
by 2travel2know2
SJOtoLIR wrote:
Copa Airlines will upgrade MSY-PTY 4x weekly from E90 to 73G.
Effective: January 01 - February 28.
Equipment upgrade that's.
Passengers on both sides were looking forward to a frequency upgrade (to daily E90).

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:20 pm
by copa330200
SJOtoLIR wrote:
tommyarias wrote:
I mentioned MAD as it's the stop for the GRU flights. Chinese citizens need a visa to transit in the USA, but they have visa free transit in Canada. On the European side, connecting at a Star Alliance hub seems logical, except for FRA as LH already has a flight to PTY, so the other options are LHR, ZRH, WAW, and MUC.

Remember how JL dropped in the past NRT-YVR-MEX and NRT-JFK-GRU, being Mexico City and Sao Paulo by far larger Latin American markets than Panama City.
Emirates and ANA had also studyied PTY. Same with Air China at SJO.
I visualize a thin market between Asia and Central America.

Regards.



I think CA is looking South and Central America connections at PTY - though not sure if it's big enough- :|

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:48 pm
by AASAP777
Did EK already can plans to operate in Panamá?

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:25 am
by SJOtoLIR
AASAP777 wrote:
Did EK already can plans to operate in Panamá?

They have reversed their intended plans for 2016.
It could've been the farthest commercial flight worldwide.
Related link: http://gulfnews.com/business/aviation/e ... -1.1566236

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:35 am
by juanchito
According to this link (Only Spanish)
http://www.elsalvador.com/noticias/expa ... -salvador/
Volaris will add LAX and IAD from SAL and GUA on the first quarter of 2018

Juanchito

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:03 pm
by YSAPW
According to that link, Volaris would be flying out of SAL to Los Angeles and New York. The flight to NY would be originating in SJO, stopping in SAL, and then direct to (I assume JFK). Also next year, a direct flight from SJO to IAD has been announced. This is good news for the salvadorean, and Central American travelers!

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:23 pm
by juanchito
YSAPW wrote:
According to that link, Volaris would be flying out of SAL to Los Angeles and New York. The flight to NY would be originating in SJO, stopping in SAL, and then direct to (I assume JFK). Also next year, a direct flight from SJO to IAD has been announced. This is good news for the salvadorean, and Central American travelers!


Some flights will be via SAL and others via GUA.

Juanchito

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:41 pm
by yellowtail
juanchito wrote:
YSAPW wrote:

Some flights will be via SAL and others via GUA.

Juanchito


Can a 319/320 even make it GUA-JFK nonstop without penalties?

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:42 pm
by yellowtail
Understand the Mexican President is visiting BZE today. Please tell me he took his US$200 million 787-9 and someone can get a photo.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:46 pm
by CRMCPILOT31
AASAP777 wrote:
@CRMCPILOT31, do you know who might Fenafuth be looking for La H's rumored charter flight to SYD? I've heard that they had some options already as they rather take a charter than going on scheduled flights, although no names mentioned. I think they want to depart SAP as soon as the game is over at the Olímpico to minimize jetlag and not to loose that much time because once arriving in SYD the game will be in three days.



Well I heard that they were not going to charter a plane, but fly commercial and yes I also heard that as soon as the game is over they plan to leave like the Aussies.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:08 pm
by YSAPW
yellowtail wrote:
juanchito wrote:
YSAPW wrote:

Some flights will be via SAL and others via GUA.

Juanchito


Can a 319/320 even make it GUA-JFK nonstop without penalties?



According to Great Circle, distance between JFK - GUA is 1,790 nm, and GUA is aprox. 4950 ft AMSL, so I would guess is well within range for a fully loaded A319/20.
I have flown nonstop SAL (which is almost at sea level) - JFK (1,816 nm), about 4 hours 40 minutes, on a fully loaded A320 and A319. (I don't know about the cargo though).

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:37 pm
by juanchito
YSAPW wrote:
yellowtail wrote:
juanchito wrote:


Can a 319/320 even make it GUA-JFK nonstop without penalties?



According to Great Circle, distance between JFK - GUA is 1,790 nm, and GUA is aprox. 4950 ft AMSL, so I would guess is well within range for a fully loaded A319/20.
I have flown nonstop SAL (which is almost at sea level) - JFK (1,816 nm), about 4 hours 40 minutes, on a fully loaded A320 and A319. (I don't know about the cargo though).


Yes it is possible. Even the GUA-LAX (1907 nm) that is done daily with A320 by AV. Without restrictions.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:37 pm
by AASAP777
yellowtail wrote:
juanchito wrote:
YSAPW wrote:

Some flights will be via SAL and others via GUA.

Juanchito


Can a 319/320 even make it GUA-JFK nonstop without penalties?


Totally doable. TA used to route the flight before through GUA from SAL to JFK.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:47 pm
by many321
juanchito wrote:
According to this link (Only Spanish)
http://www.elsalvador.com/noticias/expa ... -salvador/
Volaris will add LAX and IAD from SAL and GUA on the first quarter of 2018

Juanchito


Well that's interesting of Y4 trying to compete at LAX. What amenities besides cheap fares will Y4 offer to pick off fliers from Delta and Avianca since Y4 charges everything from seat selection, in flight meals to luggage. I'd be surprised if Y4 succeeds due to this since most Salvadorans including myself are accustomed with free 1st checked and medium luggage, seat selection, and in-flight meals while flying economy. In addition, if you want to bring a second checked bag Delta charges $30 while with Avianca its $40.

My father has flown Y4 to Mexico, and talks of how horrible their services are. The only thing he likes is their A320 fleet. WIsh them the best of luck.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:53 pm
by viaggiare
La legendaria piloto de Avianca que Efromovich despidió

Maribel Porras was the first woman to command a Boeing 767 in Latin America. She recently supported the Avianca pilot strike and the airline retaliated by forcing her into retirement. A warning for anyone who crosses Bolivian-born tycoon Germán Efromovich.

“Avianca can no longer stand this. The pilots leading the strike just won’t negotiate. Now we will have to leave the decision to the justice system”, Efromovich was quoted as saying. The airline had warned that if the strike was considered to be illegal, any pilots who did not report to work would be fired.

Colombia’s justice system has been exposed as vastly corrupt. Even the highest courts are not immune from scandal, whether it be corruption allegations, apparent cases of conflict of interests or anything in between.

Earlier this month, the Sala Laboral del Tribunal Superior de Bogotá, which should not have acted before the strike reached sixty days, ruled the strike illegal on the grounds that airline travel is an essential public service. Lawyers for the pilot union (Asociación Colombiana de Aviadores Civiles – ACDAC) have appealed the ruling before the Sala de Casación Laboral de la Corte Suprema de Justicia.

Colombian law forbids those offering essential services from striking (as does Costa Rican law, for that matter). However, the International Labor Organization, a specialized agency of the United Nations dedicated to improving labor conditions and living standards throughout the world, does not consider airline pilots an essential service requiring curtailment of their right to strike.

Efromovich is by no means a stranger to controversy. Several months ago, he accused Argentinean labor unions, whom he harshly criticized for opposing deregulation, of “not wanting to work” because they would rather "suck on the breast of the cow that we call the government."

At the onset of a no-holds-barred legal battle with Avianca’s second-biggest shareholder, Efromovich was accused of “plundering" the airline to “fend off financial ruin” at his other businesses that are “bleeding financially” due to “soured energy investments”, “bad bets” and “badly performing investments in Brazil.”

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:12 pm
by AASAP777
Per Diario Diez, QF will fly charter the Socceroos to San Pedro Sula. They'll be using one of their 747s.

http://www.diez.hn/fotogalerias/1120003 ... lo-charter

And this is the routing.

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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:50 pm
by AASAP777
Looks like UX is making good money in SAP. Today they brought in their A330-300.
Image

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:21 pm
by SJOtoLIR
Wingo dropped BLB-SJO 7x weekly from October 21st

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:49 pm
by juanchito
Yesterday there was a conference in TAG and they will launch the route TGU-MGA and the most important is that they have acquire a ERJ145, more will follow.

Juanchito

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:06 pm
by AASAP777
juanchito wrote:
Yesterday there was a conference in TAG and they will launch the route TGU-MGA and the most important is that they have acquire a ERJ145, more will follow.

Juanchito


Interesting! Now TAG can easily enter to SJO or PTY with the Embraer. Let's see what happens.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:11 pm
by AASAP777
AASAP777 wrote:
Looks like UX is making good money in SAP. Today they brought in their A330-300.
Image


Boy, that's fast! Could this be true? UX is logging in today less than eight hours from SAP to MAD. Is that a glitch from Flightaware? Or winds are that strong right now?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AEA16

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:16 pm
by mabadia71
AASAP777 wrote:

Boy, that's fast! Could this be true? UX is logging in today less than eight hours from SAP to MAD. Is that a glitch from Flightaware? Or winds are that strong right now?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AEA16


I would think so, FR24 has it at 10.26
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ux15

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:30 pm
by AASAP777
mabadia71 wrote:
AASAP777 wrote:

Boy, that's fast! Could this be true? UX is logging in today less than eight hours from SAP to MAD. Is that a glitch from Flightaware? Or winds are that strong right now?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AEA16


I would think so, FR24 has it at 10.26
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ux15


Yeah! Normally that's what it takes to the A332. The fastest times have been 9:50 or 9:45. Definitely a glitch.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:24 pm
by SJOtoLIR
juanchito wrote:
TAG and they will launch the route TGU-MGA and the most important is that they have acquire a ERJ145


Neither AV nor CM had tried to open the Nicaragua - Honduras sector.
Perhaps due to the low traffic in such route.
That sounds interesting.

Regards.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:55 pm
by AASAP777
SJOtoLIR wrote:
juanchito wrote:
TAG and they will launch the route TGU-MGA and the most important is that they have acquire a ERJ145


Neither AV nor CM had tried to open the Nicaragua - Honduras sector.
Perhaps due to the low traffic in such route.
That sounds interesting.

Regards.


The HN-NI air traffic market practically disappeared after Tan-Sahsa ceased. It was mainly served through TGU, although same-plane-one stop was available from SAP.

However, by land, it is a very steady route, with Tica Bus operating from San Pedro Sula to Tegucigalpa and on to Managua and San José, and it's proven to be really popular.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:08 pm
by shaq
From October 21th, Wingo ax its BLB-SJO route
Really hope Viva Air or Volaris step in, I'm sick and tired of Copa Holdings quasi monopoly in Panama.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:21 pm
by aer
shaq wrote:
From October 21th, Wingo ax its BLB-SJO route
Really hope Viva Air or Volaris step in, I'm sick and tired of Copa Holdings quasi monopoly in Panama.


Quasi?? You give them to much credit.

juanchito wrote:
Yesterday there was a conference in TAG and they will launch the route TGU-MGA and the most important is that they have acquire a ERJ145, more will follow.

Juanchito


Well since TAG is expanding the fleet I hope they introduce a uniform livery for it; and while they're at it study a more CentAm oriented name, unless TGU-MGA is going to be "operated" by CM Airlines (which could also use a new name, I'm always confusing it with Copa).

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:54 pm
by SJOtoLIR
The new Air Panama PAC-SJO 7x weekly as nonstop service is demonstrating that they can really face to both AV and CM into the Panama City - San José market.
Perhaps BLB is not properly located or it's an unknown airport for most passengers traveling in such route.

Regards.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:13 pm
by PTYtoDCA
The problem with BLB is that you have to cross a bridge to get there, so if your flight is anywhere close to rush hour it can take up to two hours to get to the airport. Its also not that cheap either, wingo was selling tickets for 125-150$ while CM was selling at around 200$ RT from PTY, for which traffic is a bit better and you dont pay for your bag. I have no idea what Air Panama is charging but PAC is more centrally located than either BLB or PTY.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:20 pm
by SJOtoLIR
AASAP777 wrote:
The HN-NI air traffic market practically disappeared after Tan-Sahsa ceased. I

You made a good point here.
Tan - Sahsa really attended the Nicaragua - Honduras service as jetline and non-stop flights.
This scenario is not available nowadays.
The plane that crashed in Cerro de Hula in 1989 was covering the MGA-TGU segment, if I recall correctly.

Regards.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:48 pm
by AASAP777
SJOtoLIR wrote:
AASAP777 wrote:
The HN-NI air traffic market practically disappeared after Tan-Sahsa ceased. I

You made a good point here.
Tan - Sahsa really attended the Nicaragua - Honduras service as jetline and non-stop flights.
This scenario is not available nowadays.
The plane that crashed in Cerro de Hula in 1989 was covering the MGA-TGU segment, if I recall correctly.

Regards.



Indeed, SJOtoLIR: It was a milk run PTY-SJO-MGA-TGU-SAP-MSY. My dad was able to take the same flight two months before that crash, flying SJO-MGA-TGU-SAP.

La Costeña has made some attempts on TGU-MGA, but people are still kind of reluctant to fly "avionetas" (as a lot of people refer to turboprops :mrgreen: )

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:10 pm
by 2travel2know2
PTYtoDCA wrote:
The problem with BLB is that you have to cross a bridge to get there, so if your flight is anywhere close to rush hour it can take up to two hours to get to the airport. Its also not that cheap either, wingo was selling tickets for 125-150$ while CM was selling at around 200$ RT from PTY, for which traffic is a bit better and you dont pay for your bag. I have no idea what Air Panama is charging but PAC is more centrally located than either BLB or PTY.
Not only that BLB is on the wrong side of the Canal but its terminal is tiny. WIngo - if it was for terminal size - would be better using the abandoned/unused ONX airport.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:59 pm
by Kilgen
Well BLB will be remodeled to be able to handle more passengers. More info at: https://www.prensa.com/economia/Inversi ... 91130.html

With the Third line of the rail system, there will be a stop near BLB. And most likely PAC is going be be closed and everything moved to BLB. The land where PAC is located is too valuable to be used as an airport.

But then again, when PTY T2 opens next year, I could see CM moving wingo from BLB to PTY. Specially with the Second Line of the rail system been extended to PTY.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:13 pm
by SJOtoLIR
2travel2know2 wrote:
WIngo - if it was for terminal size - would be better using the abandoned/unused ONX airport.

My last time in Colon was more than 30 years ago and I ignore the current level of service of the highway between Panama City and Colon.
Anyways, the distance seems to be too far, in order to consider ONX as the substitution for BLB, in the future.
The press release posted above stated that ONX would be oriented for cargo operations instead.
Speaking about Rio Hato airport, the source also mentioned how Air Transat and SunWing from Canada are attending the leisure market centralized on the beach resorts.

Regards.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:22 pm
by mabadia71
SJOtoLIR wrote:
My last time in Colon was more than 30 years ago and I ignore the current level of service of the highway between Panama City and Colon.
Anyways, the distance seems to be too far, in order to consider ONX as the substitution for BLB, in the future.

Regards.


Actually the travel time from Colon to the edge of Panama City can be as little as 45 minutes, which means that from some parts of the city is quicker to go to Colon than to BLB.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:06 pm
by SJOtoLIR
CM PTY-ORD will be gradually upgraded to 14x weekly.
Effective: May 2018.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:57 pm
by Kilgen
CM increasing PTY-POA from 7x weekly to 11x weekly starting Feb 20.

https://brasilturis.com.br/copa-airline ... re-panama/

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:22 am
by LRC315
REALLY? Another SJO flight? come on....they are very well covered by US carriers, plus now with the European flights...do they even have free slots? they are very well jam packed already....[/quote]


Actually SJO is not packed at all, during the day obviously there're peaks of activity specifically during the early mornings, noon and late afternoon with the europeans carriers making their way out but in between those peaks of activity there's still plenty of space for operations to grow if required, also AERIS is working right know on infrastructural expansions to the west of the terminal with more to come in the near future so that's not a problem either.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:13 am
by 2travel2know2
Kilgen wrote:
CM increasing PTY-POA from 7x weekly to 11x weekly starting Feb 20.

One was expecting CM to start CWB before adding more flights to POA.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:29 am
by LTU932
So tonight was the inaugural nonstop AMS-SJO on KL. My question is: Does that also make it the inaugural 787-9 flight to SJO ever? I know Thomson is using the 787-8 to LIR, but I don't believe I've seen any -9 at all.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:23 pm
by juanchito
LTU932 wrote:
So tonight was the inaugural nonstop AMS-SJO on KL. My question is: Does that also make it the inaugural 787-9 flight to SJO ever? I know Thomson is using the 787-8 to LIR, but I don't believe I've seen any -9 at all.


Yes first -9 schedule to SJO but to Central America.

Juanchito

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:31 pm
by LRC315
LTU932 wrote:
So tonight was the inaugural nonstop AMS-SJO on KL. My question is: Does that also make it the inaugural 787-9 flight to SJO ever? I know Thomson is using the 787-8 to LIR, but I don't believe I've seen any -9 at all.


Yes indeed, it's the first time a -9 has come to SJO, previously we had the visits of one belonging to the United Arabic Emirates Government and also the Mexican Air Force, but those where -8 . Also TUI Thomson has started operating their 787-9 to LIR as of today during the European winter making this two the only 787 scheduled flights in Central America for the time being.

Photo from MRLB/Spotter

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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:49 pm
by CRMCPILOT31
Surprised CM has not started a RTB route with an E190

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:47 am
by CHI2DFW
SJOtoLIR wrote:
CM PTY-ORD will be gradually upgraded to 14x weekly.
Effective: May 2018.


I need to find the link, but I believe it’s going 3x daily in summer 18.

Either they know something AA and UA don’t, or it’s losses are being subsidized somewhere.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:56 am
by Kilgen
CHI2DFW wrote:
SJOtoLIR wrote:
CM PTY-ORD will be gradually upgraded to 14x weekly.
Effective: May 2018.


I need to find the link, but I believe it’s going 3x daily in summer 18.

Either they know something AA and UA don’t, or it’s losses are being subsidized somewhere.


From the weekly updates threads, CM for ORD has announced the following: CM ORD-PTY MAR 1.6>1.9 APR 1.6>2 MAY 1.5>2 JUN 2>3

This year, the increases were: CM ORD-PTY JUN 1.6>2 JUL 1.6>2 AUG 1.5>2.

Also, the economies in Latin America have improved from last year. Thus is possible that they have seen a possible increase of traffic to the US.

As in the last 6 weeks they have been announcing the following:
CM LAX-PTY JAN 3>4 FEB 3>4 MAR 3>4 APR 3>4 MAY 3>4
CM MIA-PTY DEC 5>6 JAN 5>6 FEB 5>6 MAR 5>6
CM JFK-PTY JAN 3>4 FEB 3>4 MAR 3>4 APR 3>4 MAY 3>4
CM MCO-PTY JAN 4>5 FEB 4>5 MAR 4>5 APR 4>5 MAY 4>5
CM LAS-PTY MAR 0.9>1.0 APR 0.9>1.0 MAY 0.8>1.0
CM BOS-PTY FEB 1.0>1.6 MAR 1.0>1.5 APR 1.0>1.6 MAY 1.0>1.5 JUN 1.0>1.6
CM SFO-PTY MAR 1.6>3 APR 1.6>3 MAY 1.5>3 JUN 2>3
CM IAD-PTY JUN 2>3
CM ORD-PTY MAR 1.6>1.9 APR 1.6>2 MAY 1.5>2 JUN 2>3
CM FLL-PTY DEC 0.5>0.8 JAN 0.6>0.9 FEB 0.6>0.9
And for MSY they did not increase the frequencies, but changed from an E90 to a B737 for Jan and Feb.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:41 am
by SJOtoLIR
LTU932 wrote:
the inaugural nonstop AMS-SJO on KL.


Image
SJO, October 31st, 2017.

Regards