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OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:22 pm
by jetmatt777
According to OKC reporter on twitter (confirmed by airport).

New airline and new destination.

With OKC seeing service from AA, AS, DL, G4, UA, and WN that really only leaves NK, B6, or a return of F9 to the market as possible candidates.

Anyone have the scoop?

https://twitter.com/donnellyclairee/sta ... 7113439232

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:40 pm
by knope2001
Frontier seems the most likely. They just updated their October schedule with (seemingly) a lot of reduction and fewer offsetting additions. So they are ripe for a new-route announcements tomorrow. If I had to guess there will be a bunch of new less-than-daily Florida flying, and OKC could be on the list.

OKC would be out of character for what NK has been doing and especially B6. Not impossible but just not a strong bet for tomorrow’s press release.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:49 pm
by stapleton
Digging into the Frontier website, it is showing OKC, BUF and GRR as destinations. They don't show up on the home page but when you go to the secondary pages to edit the flights, these cities show on the list.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:04 pm
by Sancho99504
F9 is all over the map. They did fairly well to DEN before Menke came in flushed the company down the toilet. A few airlines have came in and offered OKC to Florida routes on less than daily service unsuccessfully. Doubt it would be B6 as their service in fly over country is less than impressive......

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:19 pm
by klm617
stapleton wrote:
Digging into the Frontier website, it is showing OKC, BUF and GRR as destinations. They don't show up on the home page but when you go to the secondary pages to edit the flights, these cities show on the list.


WOW GRR would be a great add.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:16 pm
by BTVB6Flyer
F9 makes sense for all of these destinations. Presumably to warm weather cities as well.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:19 pm
by jetmatt777
Just to note, F9 provided service to TPA and MCO from OKC about 7 years ago on the E190 and quickly dropped it after one season.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:28 pm
by Jshank83
Sounds like F9 has announcements for MIA tomorrow. I also have seen people mentioning a CVG announcement tomorrow. So it makes sense this will be F9 also.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:53 pm
by mikesairways
There is an SJC announcement tomorrow as well

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:01 pm
by tkimmel
AUS, too...

Airline to announce expanded service from Austin July 18
AUSTIN, Texas – More flights are coming to Austin! On Tuesday, July 18 an incumbent domestic carrier will announce plans to more than double its number of nonstop destinations from Austin. This announcement will, both, add to the total number of nonstop destinations available out of Austin-Bergstrom International Airport and offer additional options to cities currently served.

An airline representative will announce the full list of destinations and provide additional details at a press event at the Barbara Jordan terminal on Tuesday, July 18 at noon. Opportunities for one-on-one interviews with the airline will be available following the official announcement.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:43 pm
by klakzky123
jetmatt777 wrote:
Just to note, F9 provided service to TPA and MCO from OKC about 7 years ago on the E190 and quickly dropped it after one season.


F9 today barely resembles the airline that tried this 7 years ago. Might as well call it a new airline at this point.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:53 pm
by jetmatt777
klakzky123 wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
Just to note, F9 provided service to TPA and MCO from OKC about 7 years ago on the E190 and quickly dropped it after one season.


F9 today barely resembles the airline that tried this 7 years ago. Might as well call it a new airline at this point.


I agree, just posting the observation. They do have the data from the previous route however, so I would be surprised if it was MCO or TPA again. We'll see tomorrow.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:23 pm
by OslPhlWasChi
F9, as said, is likely but as for new destinations - top F9 stations include DEN, MCO, LAS, ORD, ATL, and PHL. Of these, OKC does not have service to just PHL. They also do not have service to CLE and CVG as well as MIA and TPA which are also warm weather stations.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:04 pm
by dfwjim1
knope2001 wrote:
Frontier seems the most likely. They just updated their October schedule with (seemingly) a lot of reduction and fewer offsetting additions. So they are ripe for a new-route announcements tomorrow. If I had to guess there will be a bunch of new less-than-daily Florida flying, and OKC could be on the list.

OKC would be out of character for what NK has been doing and especially B6. Not impossible but just not a strong bet for tomorrow’s press release.


I have been puzzled as to why NK does not fly to OKC and/ or TUL as it seems like NK's ULCC model would be a hit with service to the likes of LAS and FLL.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:55 pm
by RWA380
MIA-OKC on F9. Pretty safe bet.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:02 am
by b777erj145
I bet it is MIA as there is thread about F9 announcing new destinations from MIA

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:31 am
by jb1087xna
dfwjim1 wrote:
knope2001 wrote:
Frontier seems the most likely. They just updated their October schedule with (seemingly) a lot of reduction and fewer offsetting additions. So they are ripe for a new-route announcements tomorrow. If I had to guess there will be a bunch of new less-than-daily Florida flying, and OKC could be on the list.

OKC would be out of character for what NK has been doing and especially B6. Not impossible but just not a strong bet for tomorrow’s press release.


I have been puzzled as to why NK does not fly to OKC and/ or TUL as it seems like NK's ULCC model would be a hit with service to the likes of LAS and FLL.


FWIW, G4 has some presence on both OKC/TUL to LAS.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:40 am
by blhp68
MCI is also teasing a new service announcement tomorrow, wonder if they are part of this too

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:23 am
by AWACSooner
dfwjim1 wrote:
I have been puzzled as to why NK does not fly to OKC and/ or TUL as it seems like NK's ULCC model would be a hit with service to the likes of LAS and FLL.

We're not worthy enough to warrant NK's strip mining operations of random airports...yet.

But we're barely managing to hang onto sporadic G4 service to LAS, VPS, LAX and SFB, so I doubt NK would give us a serious look until it can be proven that a ULCC can have sustained presence here in the face of AA/WN

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:48 am
by KBUF
stapleton wrote:
Digging into the Frontier website, it is showing OKC, BUF and GRR as destinations. They don't show up on the home page but when you go to the secondary pages to edit the flights, these cities show on the list.


Ooh, color me intrigued. :bouncy: :crossfingers:

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:15 am
by FLYKTPA
When looking at various routes the option to route though OKC on OKC-MCO/DEN came up...

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:12 pm
by KBUF
BUF now teasing an announcement at 1PM: https://twitter.com/BUFAirport/status/8 ... 8095900672

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:37 pm
by Midwestindy

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:38 pm
by AWACSooner
OKC-DEN is going to be a bloodbath...fares are low and yields have got to be trash at this point.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:45 pm
by Frontier14
AWACSooner wrote:
OKC-DEN is going to be a bloodbath...fares are low and yields have got to be trash at this point.


Good for the consumer, right? Am somewhat surprised to see OKC; but I suspect they are giving it a shot to see what happens. If the OKC pax do not use the flights, Frontier will be quick to pull the routes.

Frontier 14

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:51 pm
by AWACSooner
Frontier14 wrote:
AWACSooner wrote:
OKC-DEN is going to be a bloodbath...fares are low and yields have got to be trash at this point.


Good for the consumer, right? Am somewhat surprised to see OKC; but I suspect they are giving it a shot to see what happens. If the OKC pax do not use the flights, Frontier will be quick to pull the routes.

Frontier 14

Well they served it for nearly a decade...then WN came in and ended the party.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:56 pm
by Brick
Isn't this a resumption of service and not "new service"? I seem to recall Frontier serving OKC in the 2000s. Think it was using Lynx Aviation DHC8s to DEN, but that should still count as Frontier service.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:59 pm
by Frontier14
AWACSooner wrote:
Frontier14 wrote:
AWACSooner wrote:
OKC-DEN is going to be a bloodbath...fares are low and yields have got to be trash at this point.


Good for the consumer, right? Am somewhat surprised to see OKC; but I suspect they are giving it a shot to see what happens. If the OKC pax do not use the flights, Frontier will be quick to pull the routes.

Frontier 14

Well they served it for nearly a decade...then WN came in and ended the party.


Agree with the WN factor. However, with the $$$ in the pockets of the current owners of F9, they are no longer apprehensive to go head to head with Southwest or anyone else in their quest for the more almighty dollars.

Frontier 14

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:02 pm
by Midwestindy
SAN, DEN, MCO are the three that will be served from OKC...

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:11 pm
by AWACSooner
Midwestindy wrote:
SAN, DEN, MCO are the three that will be served from OKC...


IMO, WN should've launched MCO service a long time ago

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:35 pm
by SANFan
Nice! OKC-SAN in 2018 (and TUL-SAN as well!)

Some of us in SAN have been wishing quite hard for service to OKC and I personally, thought it might be AAG that would jump on it (with a daily EMJ perhaps.) Instead F9 jumps first with, I assume, sub-daily -- maybe a split daily op with TUL? -- and seasonal or year-round, I don't know.

Whatever they will actually offer, I'm very pleased! And congrats to OKC for getting a new carrier!

bb

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:09 pm
by spyglass
Weelll.....back in the goodle daze, FL was in OKC with 580's, then 732's & MD's.....then Lorenzo came along with his smart ideas and....you know the rest. But thinking back to the wild 'n woolly late 80's, even PA and Northeast Int'l were in.....and every trunk carrier (save NA) and our own little local service Trans Central (flying ex-PI YS-11's). Gates & counters were shared, with agents almost standing on top of each other (this was before terminal and ramp expansion) and there were non-stops to both coasts (AA even ran a couple DC-10's daily to LAX and were usually almost full) & a lot of places between. Then the mergers started, and AA's & DL's hub & spoke system came into vogue, and here we are. Looks like that may be waning a little (WN never really went for it)....we can only hope.

If new Frontier comes back here, hopefully their employee morale will be better than 10-12 yrs ago. But they were facing a lot of uncertainty then....maybe it's better now.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:54 pm
by AWACSooner
SANFan wrote:

Whatever they will actually offer, I'm very pleased! And congrats to OKC for getting a new carrier!

Not a new carrier for us...F9 served OKC from DEN (and MCO/TPA for awhile) from around 2002 til just a few years ago...it's a return to the market for them.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:26 am
by n7371f
Sancho99504 wrote:
F9 is all over the map. They did fairly well to DEN before Menke came in flushed the company down the toilet. A few airlines have came in and offered OKC to Florida routes on less than daily service unsuccessfully. Doubt it would be B6 as their service in fly over country is less than impressive......


Sean and Ted Christie are two big reasons why Frontier wasn't liquidated. I don't know about Sean's overall CEO acumen, but he was handed a meltdown and helped steer F9 through it - not to mention that infamous Southwest takeover offer which was nothing more than a liquidation.

Re: OKC Air Service Announcement 7/18 (new airline)

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:28 am
by 9w748capt
Huge, huge add for OKC! Our market is sorely lacking ULCC options - fares are usually insane here. Here's wishing F9 much success. Interesting they chose SAN and not LAX or event ONT. Will be curious to see how that route does. G4 seems to be doing well in OKC-LAX.