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NickLAX wrote:MD80's are NOT getting repainted. They will be leaving the fleet and any further spend besides standard scheduled maintenance on them is a waste
ooslc wrote:Check out this site.
https://sites.google.com/site/newamericanfleet/
Don't know how up to date it is, but seems like it's regularly maintained.
Showing 91% repainted, but the Super 80s aren't getting new paint, so it's really 94% repainted if you take out the Super 80s.
ty97 wrote:NickLAX wrote:MD80's are NOT getting repainted. They will be leaving the fleet and any further spend besides standard scheduled maintenance on them is a waste
Yep, I realize that. The planes I saw were not MD-80s, and I'm curious about only those planes that AA intends to repaint.
ooslc wrote:Check out this site.
https://sites.google.com/site/newamericanfleet/
Don't know how up to date it is, but seems like it's regularly maintained.
Showing 91% repainted, but the Super 80s aren't getting new paint, so it's really 94% repainted if you take out the Super 80s.
aemoreira1981 wrote:Also, one LAA 737 will not be repainted. Other than that, any non-737 not yet repainted is as good as gone.
kann123air wrote:aemoreira1981 wrote:Also, one LAA 737 will not be repainted. Other than that, any non-737 not yet repainted is as good as gone.
Do we know which reg will retain the bare metal scheme?
Amrit
ooslc wrote:Check out this site.
https://sites.google.com/site/newamericanfleet/
Don't know how up to date it is, but seems like it's regularly maintained.
Showing 91% repainted, but the Super 80s aren't getting new paint, so it's really 94% repainted if you take out the Super 80s.
dmanonice wrote:Don't know about all the regional but we had an Air Wisconsin aircraft in YOW the last couple of days still wearing US Airways Express colours. Though i suspect it might be going over to UA colours in the near future.
alasizon wrote:dmanonice wrote:Don't know about all the regional but we had an Air Wisconsin aircraft in YOW the last couple of days still wearing US Airways Express colours. Though i suspect it might be going over to UA colours in the near future.
Correct, all of the ZW fleet is leaving within the next ~7 months.
TripleA wrote:alasizon wrote:dmanonice wrote:Don't know about all the regional but we had an Air Wisconsin aircraft in YOW the last couple of days still wearing US Airways Express colours. Though i suspect it might be going over to UA colours in the near future.
Correct, all of the ZW fleet is leaving within the next ~7 months.
Are there still some of the SkyWest CRJ200s in the old Eagle colors?
QB737 wrote:ooslc wrote:Check out this site.
https://sites.google.com/site/newamericanfleet/
Don't know how up to date it is, but seems like it's regularly maintained.
Showing 91% repainted, but the Super 80s aren't getting new paint, so it's really 94% repainted if you take out the Super 80s.
Do you know pf a similar site for Air Canada?
alasizon wrote:ty97 wrote:NickLAX wrote:MD80's are NOT getting repainted. They will be leaving the fleet and any further spend besides standard scheduled maintenance on them is a waste
Yep, I realize that. The planes I saw were not MD-80s, and I'm curious about only those planes that AA intends to repaint.
The entire LUS and Eagle fleets are done. All thats left is some LAA 737s. The rest of the 757s that are not painted will be retired.
caribair wrote:alasizon wrote:ty97 wrote:
Yep, I realize that. The planes I saw were not MD-80s, and I'm curious about only those planes that AA intends to repaint.
The entire LUS and Eagle fleets are done. All thats left is some LAA 737s. The rest of the 757s that are not painted will be retired.
I believe that seven 757 (N182AN/N181AN/N679AN/N678AN/N677AN/N676AN/N602AN) are going to be paint in the next six months.
American 767 wrote:I believe that seven 757 (N182AN/N181AN/N679AN/N678AN/N677AN/N676AN/N602AN) are going to be paint in the next six months.
Some of those are probably going to be retired, rather.
I think you are right. If you see a 757 or a 767 still in the old scheme, it is at this point most likely the case that it won't be repainted in the new livery and retired in the near future (less than one year from now).
There is now only one 767 (out of 31 left in the fleet) still in the old scheme so the chances to spot her in the ClAAssic livery are slim to none.
Speaking of the 757s, maybe N181AN and N182AN will be repainted and stay in the fleet because they must be international 757s that American plans on keeping for a while, but the other 5 mentioned...I don't think so.
If you see an MD-80 you can be at least 99% sure it won't be repainted.
Boeing778X wrote:American 767 wrote:I believe that seven 757 (N182AN/N181AN/N679AN/N678AN/N677AN/N676AN/N602AN) are going to be paint in the next six months.
Some of those are probably going to be retired, rather.
I think you are right. If you see a 757 or a 767 still in the old scheme, it is at this point most likely the case that it won't be repainted in the new livery and retired in the near future (less than one year from now).
There is now only one 767 (out of 31 left in the fleet) still in the old scheme so the chances to spot her in the ClAAssic livery are slim to none.
Speaking of the 757s, maybe N181AN and N182AN will be repainted and stay in the fleet because they must be international 757s that American plans on keeping for a while, but the other 5 mentioned...I don't think so.
If you see an MD-80 you can be at least 99% sure it won't be repainted.
N377AN is the only 763 still in the old livery, so yes, anything that's not a 738 or E140 that's still in the old livery is being retired in the immediate future.
As for the MD-80s, I hope they save and restore N9405T and N984TW.
caribair wrote:Boeing778X wrote:American 767 wrote:I believe that seven 757 (N182AN/N181AN/N679AN/N678AN/N677AN/N676AN/N602AN) are going to be paint in the next six months.
Some of those are probably going to be retired, rather.
I think you are right. If you see a 757 or a 767 still in the old scheme, it is at this point most likely the case that it won't be repainted in the new livery and retired in the near future (less than one year from now).
There is now only one 767 (out of 31 left in the fleet) still in the old scheme so the chances to spot her in the ClAAssic livery are slim to none.
Speaking of the 757s, maybe N181AN and N182AN will be repainted and stay in the fleet because they must be international 757s that American plans on keeping for a while, but the other 5 mentioned...I don't think so.
If you see an MD-80 you can be at least 99% sure it won't be repainted.
N377AN is the only 763 still in the old livery, so yes, anything that's not a 738 or E140 that's still in the old livery is being retired in the immediate future.
As for the MD-80s, I hope they save and restore N9405T and N984TW.
In the 27JAN17 investor update included AA's Fleet Plan for 2017.
Their present the MAINLINE RETIREMENTS for 2017 as of 56 planes.
The detail for the 757 & the 767 was :
- 17 Boeing 757-200: -12 Q3, -5 Q4
- 9 Boeing 767-300ER: -1 Q2, -4 Q3, -4 Q4
I am understand tha they want to standardize their 757 fleet. The 12 Q3 retirement are the las original US Air birds deliver to US Air in 1995/96 that according to their anoucemet are going to be replace by the AA planes with the new international interior . The other four ex US Air in the fleet are the three that came from American Trans Air & the one that came from North American currently use to Hawaii ; that are newer planes (2000/2001) but are the only four that have diferent configurations in their Galleys, Lavs and Instruments. In the update they mention that by Jan 2018 they are going to have 34 757, my understanding is that will be 26 in the international configuration and 8 for the Hawaii services and all of then are going to be originals AA Planes.
AA737-823 wrote:caribair wrote:Boeing778X wrote:
N377AN is the only 763 still in the old livery, so yes, anything that's not a 738 or E140 that's still in the old livery is being retired in the immediate future.
As for the MD-80s, I hope they save and restore N9405T and N984TW.
In the 27JAN17 investor update included AA's Fleet Plan for 2017.
Their present the MAINLINE RETIREMENTS for 2017 as of 56 planes.
The detail for the 757 & the 767 was :
- 17 Boeing 757-200: -12 Q3, -5 Q4
- 9 Boeing 767-300ER: -1 Q2, -4 Q3, -4 Q4
I am understand tha they want to standardize their 757 fleet. The 12 Q3 retirement are the las original US Air birds deliver to US Air in 1995/96 that according to their anoucemet are going to be replace by the AA planes with the new international interior . The other four ex US Air in the fleet are the three that came from American Trans Air & the one that came from North American currently use to Hawaii ; that are newer planes (2000/2001) but are the only four that have diferent configurations in their Galleys, Lavs and Instruments. In the update they mention that by Jan 2018 they are going to have 34 757, my understanding is that will be 26 in the international configuration and 8 for the Hawaii services and all of then are going to be originals AA Planes.
I don't want to stray too far off topic, but I just rode N602AN on the DFW-ANC run.
Any ideas what fleet will operate the seasonal DFW-ANC trip next summer, if the domestic 757s are all gone?
Boeing778X wrote:AA737-823 wrote:caribair wrote:
In the 27JAN17 investor update included AA's Fleet Plan for 2017.
Their present the MAINLINE RETIREMENTS for 2017 as of 56 planes.
The detail for the 757 & the 767 was :
- 17 Boeing 757-200: -12 Q3, -5 Q4
- 9 Boeing 767-300ER: -1 Q2, -4 Q3, -4 Q4
I am understand tha they want to standardize their 757 fleet. The 12 Q3 retirement are the las original US Air birds deliver to US Air in 1995/96 that according to their anoucemet are going to be replace by the AA planes with the new international interior . The other four ex US Air in the fleet are the three that came from American Trans Air & the one that came from North American currently use to Hawaii ; that are newer planes (2000/2001) but are the only four that have diferent configurations in their Galleys, Lavs and Instruments. In the update they mention that by Jan 2018 they are going to have 34 757, my understanding is that will be 26 in the international configuration and 8 for the Hawaii services and all of then are going to be originals AA Planes.
I don't want to stray too far off topic, but I just rode N602AN on the DFW-ANC run.
Any ideas what fleet will operate the seasonal DFW-ANC trip next summer, if the domestic 757s are all gone?
My guess is 32B or 738, if they don't continue using the 752.
Jo8338 wrote:A few points: ships 935-942 were originally delivered to AW not US.
American 767 wrote:Speaking of the 757s, maybe N181AN and N182AN will be repainted and stay in the fleet because they must be international 757s that American plans on keeping for a while, but the other 5 mentioned...I don't think so.
MLIAA wrote:What will be the fate of Flagship Liberty? Will American find a way to integrate the yellow ribbon into the new livery? Will they take a page from Envoy's playbook, putting the ribbon on the winglets a la E175. Or will another AA icon fade into history?
Jo8338 wrote:A few points: ships 935-942 were originally delivered to AW not US.
Of the 8 remaining legacy birds 2 of them 182 and 677 still have the classic 22F wide beige leather seats. The some of those have very low cycles since they have done LAX - Hawaii most of their life.
Flynclt20 wrote:Jo8338 wrote:A few points: ships 935-942 were originally delivered to AW not US.
Of the 8 remaining legacy birds 2 of them 182 and 677 still have the classic 22F wide beige leather seats. The some of those have very low cycles since they have done LAX - Hawaii most of their life.
All currently remaining B757 from the LUS side were being used back east to Europe previously and have/are slowly being converted and refurbed to fly PHX-HI. All remaining were either delivered to US Air, ATA or North American. No former HP B757's are left, they're all in the graveyard!
This fall after the PHL-T/A pull down. This is the plan for the remaining 5 LUS birds in the lay flat J class config.(75E's) 2 will be converted to 75H's to fly PHX-HI (#206,#939) and the other 3 (#935,#935,#941) will be retired.
Flynclt20 wrote:Jo8338 wrote:A few points: ships 935-942 were originally delivered to AW not US.
Of the 8 remaining legacy birds 2 of them 182 and 677 still have the classic 22F wide beige leather seats. The some of those have very low cycles since they have done LAX - Hawaii most of their life.
All currently remaining B757 from the LUS side were being used back east to Europe previously and have/are slowly being converted and refurbed to fly PHX-HI. All remaining were either delivered to US Air, ATA or North American. No former HP B757's are left, they're all in the graveyard!
This fall after the PHL-T/A pull down. This is the plan for the remaining 5 LUS birds in the lay flat J class config.(75E's) 2 will be converted to 75H's to fly PHX-HI (#206,#939) and the other 3 (#935,#935,#941) will be retired.
Also from the 75H fleet(currently already converted from
75E's). There will be (3) retired (#937,#940,#942). When 206, 939 are converted to 75H. It will leave the 75H fleet at 10 birds to use from PHX-HI and some LUS domestic flying it currently does like (PHX-LAX,SAN,DFW,PHL,CLT,CUN,etc.).
hivue wrote:Have any airframes in the new livery been retired (not counting airframes damaged beyond economically justifiable repair)? If not, do you think any will be retired before the very last MD-80 goes?
FSDan wrote:Flynclt20 wrote:Jo8338 wrote:A few points: ships 935-942 were originally delivered to AW not US.
Of the 8 remaining legacy birds 2 of them 182 and 677 still have the classic 22F wide beige leather seats. The some of those have very low cycles since they have done LAX - Hawaii most of their life.
All currently remaining B757 from the LUS side were being used back east to Europe previously and have/are slowly being converted and refurbed to fly PHX-HI. All remaining were either delivered to US Air, ATA or North American. No former HP B757's are left, they're all in the graveyard!
This fall after the PHL-T/A pull down. This is the plan for the remaining 5 LUS birds in the lay flat J class config.(75E's) 2 will be converted to 75H's to fly PHX-HI (#206,#939) and the other 3 (#935,#935,#941) will be retired.
Also from the 75H fleet(currently already converted from
75E's). There will be (3) retired (#937,#940,#942). When 206, 939 are converted to 75H. It will leave the 75H fleet at 10 birds to use from PHX-HI and some LUS domestic flying it currently does like (PHX-LAX,SAN,DFW,PHL,CLT,CUN,etc.).
So the end state will be 10 75H based at PHX, and 24 LAA 757s in international config for MIA-South America and PHL/JFK to Europe?