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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:54 pm

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Any updates on DEN, LAS, or ORD?


Wasn't it you that told us to expect a spring announcement for ORD? Apologies if it wasn't. Like we keep saying I think an announcement late this year for a late 2018 start for ORD would seem most likely. But they may have other plans for those 2 789's to be delivered at that time.

That's supposed to be QF.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:58 pm

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Any updates on DEN, LAS, or ORD?


Wasn't it you that told us to expect a spring announcement for ORD? Apologies if it wasn't. Like we keep saying I think an announcement late this year for a late 2018 start for ORD would seem most likely. But they may have other plans for those 2 789's to be delivered at that time.

That's supposed to be QF.


That's surprising to me re QF given that they need to retire 3 more 744's late next year when 789's 5-8 come. However with talk about another European port from PER maybe they will do ORD instead?
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:45 am

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Eventually the plan is to operate the 789 daily during most of the year and probably upgauge or multiple frequencies during high season (Dec-Feb).

When do you expect this to happen? 2019 with 301 seaters?

NZ is keen to do it ASAP apparently but I guess it will depend on aircraft availability etc. Mid 2018 might be a good point as it is the low season that is where the route isn't doing so well (77E operating cost to YVR are a lot higher than 789 would be and not being daily also hurts).
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:35 am

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With an this extra growth, whats the chance of the reamaing 789 options being firm-up this year?


We had this discussion a while back, there are 2 each to be delivered this year and next in the premium configuration. Personally I doubt they will add more than 2-3 new orders at once but that depends when the options expire. But I would expect say 2 to be firmed up. I think next years are leases?


At the June investor presentation the management team mentioned in passing options on additional leased capacity from the end of the decade to support growth. But they sounded more focused on the 77E replacement programme for which the A350 and 77X seem to be the candidates. Didn't sound to me as if the 789 fleet is going to expand much (if at all) beyond the planned 13. Makes sense: the North American routes are more demanding in terms of payload/range.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:03 am

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With an this extra growth, whats the chance of the reamaing 789 options being firm-up this year?


We had this discussion a while back, there are 2 each to be delivered this year and next in the premium configuration. Personally I doubt they will add more than 2-3 new orders at once but that depends when the options expire. But I would expect say 2 to be firmed up. I think next years are leases?


At the June investor presentation the management team mentioned in passing options on additional leased capacity from the end of the decade to support growth. But they sounded more focused on the 77E replacement programme for which the A350 and 77X seem to be the candidates. Didn't sound to me as if the 789 fleet is going to expand much (if at all) beyond the planned 13. Makes sense: the North American routes are more demanding in terms of payload/range.


I didn't read it like that. 77E replacement is 2022ish but they have early expiry options if the market drops. I think maybe move the 77E's to HNL, PER, Japan?, maybe SIN where I always think maybe some extra J capacity could be used and with the former they are shorter routes so less fuel burn plus the odd SFO, LAX when 77W's are in mx, and RAR-LAX. Maybe some 78J's for the leisure routes as they seem to doing well and the routes I mentioned are a little shorter, 78J would take a hit to Japan as is probably. Reconfigure some 789's to premium configuration.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:42 am

Not sure about 77E to PER. PER doesn't need the premium config.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:13 pm

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Not sure about 77E to PER. PER doesn't need the premium config.


As far as I know it is pretty premium heavy. I only flew it once, and it confirmed it - BP was full. But that might have changed with the cooling of the mining industry?

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:49 pm

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Not sure about 77E to PER. PER doesn't need the premium config.


Maybe, just because it doesn't get it now doesn't mean it won't again in future. It's times now to connect to The Americas atleast outbound ex AKL.

Basically what I'm saying is that as the aircraft get older and aren't as efficient as newer aircraft and if fuel prices go up they can use them on shorter routes.
 
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Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:36 am

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I didn't read it like that. 77E replacement is 2022ish but they have early expiry options if the market drops. I think maybe move the 77E's to HNL, PER, Japan?, maybe SIN where I always think maybe some extra J capacity could be used and with the former they are shorter routes so less fuel burn plus the odd SFO, LAX when 77W's are in mx, and RAR-LAX. Maybe some 78J's for the leisure routes as they seem to doing well and the routes I mentioned are a little shorter, 78J would take a hit to Japan as is probably. Reconfigure some 789's to premium configuration.


They put the 77Es onto the NRT route quite a while back - the Code 1 789s couldn't meet the demand for premium seating. Looks as if they've now gone back to 789 for NRT with 77Es for HND (for which business customers will be prepared to pay a premium).
 
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Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:33 am

The 77E's ran NRT last summer due to the 789's being fully utilised elsewhere, that and your probably right NRT needed some additional premium seats.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:51 am

is it just me, or have a trip to Queenstown for a week or 10 days of skiing got incredibly expensive ? Rang a wholesaler & asked about 7-10 nights next month before school holidays & they tried to convince me that even with all airfares, it's much cheaper & better to ski in USA now, as long as not Australian school holidays. The skiing is 100 times better, you can stay on snow, in towns or decent sized resorts.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:33 am

TG to send 789 to AKL for NW17/18, from 5 weekly to daily service

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-08aug17/
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:46 am

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is it just me, or have a trip to Queenstown for a week or 10 days of skiing got incredibly expensive ? Rang a wholesaler & asked about 7-10 nights next month before school holidays & they tried to convince me that even with all airfares, it's much cheaper & better to ski in USA now, as long as not Australian school holidays. The skiing is 100 times better, you can stay on snow, in towns or decent sized resorts.

10 days in NZ anywhere is pretty unreasonable. It's all part of the great New Zealand rip-off mentality that is throughout our business ethos here. Unreasonably high margins and deliberately/artificially limited supply in lieu of selling more with less margin. It applies to Sky TV,Water, Electricity, accommodation, fuel, Consumables, Restaurants, Electronics and much more besides.

Queenstown is beautiful, but there are other places worldwide which offer much better value. Day to day costs in Queenstown are ridiculous.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:35 am

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is it just me, or have a trip to Queenstown for a week or 10 days of skiing got incredibly expensive ? Rang a wholesaler & asked about 7-10 nights next month before school holidays & they tried to convince me that even with all airfares, it's much cheaper & better to ski in USA now, as long as not Australian school holidays. The skiing is 100 times better, you can stay on snow, in towns or decent sized resorts.

Accommodation in both Auckland and Queenstown have both been getting very expensive for some time now.
There is only limited capacity in the area so prices are higher versus the US where the amount of air capacity has grown massively along with the USD being weak.
So yeah better skiing and better value.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:21 am

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TG to send 789 to AKL for NW17/18, from 5 weekly to daily service

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-08aug17/


Finally back to daily was daily last in March 2008 when the A346 was on the route, was announced in 2011 and didn't happen. For those that like Rego's TG are only getting 2 789's at this stage so same aircraft every 2 days. Nice variety with the 77E, 77W, 789 and 359 all scheduled over just a few months at different times.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:44 am

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qf789 wrote:
TG to send 789 to AKL for NW17/18, from 5 weekly to daily service

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-08aug17/


Finally back to daily was daily last in March 2008 when the A346 was on the route, was announced in 2011 and didn't happen. For those that like Rego's TG are only getting 2 789's at this stage so same aircraft every 2 days. Nice variety with the 77E, 77W, 789 and 359 all scheduled over just a few months at different times.


Feel like TG has had the airline that's changed type into AKL the most over the last 15 years, if only they still flew the MD11.
 
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:54 am

743, 744, M11, 773, 345/6, 77E, 77W, 789, 359. The 77E has been here 9.5 years.

KE M11 late 90's, 77E, 773, 744, 77W, 748 not as much but they generally change seasonally.

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We have generally been pretty fortunate to see different types over the years from various carriers, the likes of SQ 744's and CX 343's were with us for 15-18 years, sadly those are dwindling types now that we are fortunate to see 744F's and the TN 343's for a little longer.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:56 am

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Not sure about 77E to PER. PER doesn't need the premium config.


Having flown AKL to PER 7 times this year, I can tell you that if you book in Economy it is virtually impossible to get upgrades to PE or Business, and I am Gold Elite.
The same goes for PE to Business. I have just tried to book for September for 2 of us, and getting Premium Economy is very difficult. I suspect Perth needs more premium seating, particularly for the awful flight back.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:13 am

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I suspect Perth needs more premium seating, particularly for the awful flight back.


What's so awful about the flight back? I've never done it, I always give myself a stop-over, usually in Melbourne to see chums.

I assume PER-AKL non-stop isn't so very different from SIN or PVG-AKL non-stop, but your comment intrigued me.

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Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:30 am

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I suspect Perth needs more premium seating, particularly for the awful flight back.


What's so awful about the flight back? I've never done it, I always give myself a stop-over, usually in Melbourne to see chums.

I assume PER-AKL non-stop isn't so very different from SIN or PVG-AKL non-stop, but your comment intrigued me.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:31 am

TG 789 daily BKK-AKL. How will they do this? They only have 6 787-8s at the mo. Are the 2x 789 on order from ILFC due to arrive between now and October?
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:47 am

Okay so further to above post I see that the line numbers are 602 and 623 via AerCap (leased) and 623 is the line number before ZK-NZM.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:59 pm

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TG 789 daily BKK-AKL. How will they do this? They only have 6 787-8s at the mo. Are the 2x 789 on order from ILFC due to arrive between now and October?


Yes of course the aircraft will be delivered but this is TG so another 3 changes to the schedule are possible by October. The 788's don't have a long haul crew rest but are I believe getting reconfigured soonish.
 
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:16 pm

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is it just me, or have a trip to Queenstown for a week or 10 days of skiing got incredibly expensive ? Rang a wholesaler & asked about 7-10 nights next month before school holidays & they tried to convince me that even with all airfares, it's much cheaper & better to ski in USA now, as long as not Australian school holidays. The skiing is 100 times better, you can stay on snow, in towns or decent sized resorts.

Accommodation in both Auckland and Queenstown have both been getting very expensive for some time now.
There is only limited capacity in the area so prices are higher versus the US where the amount of air capacity has grown massively along with the USD being weak.
So yeah better skiing and better value.

Yes I think Australians will wake up & Queenstown might suffer. Was told lots of Chinese heading to Queenstown these days, which might keep hotel prices high.
 
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Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:27 am

USAOZ wrote:
Zkpilot wrote:
USAOZ wrote:
is it just me, or have a trip to Queenstown for a week or 10 days of skiing got incredibly expensive ? Rang a wholesaler & asked about 7-10 nights next month before school holidays & they tried to convince me that even with all airfares, it's much cheaper & better to ski in USA now, as long as not Australian school holidays. The skiing is 100 times better, you can stay on snow, in towns or decent sized resorts.

Accommodation in both Auckland and Queenstown have both been getting very expensive for some time now.
There is only limited capacity in the area so prices are higher versus the US where the amount of air capacity has grown massively along with the USD being weak.
So yeah better skiing and better value.

Yes I think Australians will wake up & Queenstown might suffer. Was told lots of Chinese heading to Queenstown these days, which might keep hotel prices high.

Yeah possible but it will always be a popular option due to the season and the relative closeness compared to North America which doesn't appeal to everyone.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:59 am

Convair ZK-KFH is doing freight runs tonight. I assume CHC as that is where it has been recently. Good to have freight convairs working again alongside the 737 classics.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:38 pm

So, minor whinge.

Clearly late to the game, but how long has NZ prevented partial payment of fares using airpoints? I thought the whole point of the scheme was to allow easy redemption, but apparently you need to have the full amount of Airpoint Dollars to cover the fare, rather than top up with cash/credit payment.

Is this a recent thing? Has it always been the case and I've just forgotten?

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:29 pm

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Clearly late to the game, but how long has NZ prevented partial payment of fares using airpoints? I thought the whole point of the scheme was to allow easy redemption, but apparently you need to have the full amount of Airpoint Dollars to cover the fare, rather than top up with cash/credit payment.

Is this a recent thing? Has it always been the case and I've just forgotten?


That's been the case as long as I can recall. Apparently it's been a point of contention as they have been trialling flexipay recently to allow partial use: https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/airpoin ... conditions. I was part of the trial but never used it because I'd rather keep saving them up then waste points in the additional fees.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:07 pm

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Clearly late to the game, but how long has NZ prevented partial payment of fares using airpoints? I thought the whole point of the scheme was to allow easy redemption, but apparently you need to have the full amount of Airpoint Dollars to cover the fare, rather than top up with cash/credit payment.

Is this a recent thing? Has it always been the case and I've just forgotten?


That's been the case as long as I can recall. Apparently it's been a point of contention as they have been trialling flexipay recently to allow partial use: https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/airpoin ... conditions. I was part of the trial but never used it because I'd rather keep saving them up then waste points in the additional fees.

Yes I was part of the trial also but didn't need to go anywhere.
It certainly makes a lot of sense to implement this as will make it a lot easier for people to use their points. That said I'd imagine a lot of points simply expire over time which NZ is probably quite happy to let happen as it reduces their liabilities.
I think we'll see them implement it properly soon once they reviewed the trial.

On a side-note it has been possible to top up your points for a long time with the Onesmart card - but really that's just complicating things.
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:10 am

Any word/confirmation on JQ getting Q400s? Heard a rumour hat 3x Q400s have left the QF fleet and are joining JQ. All 3 getting painted next week apparently. ROT has appeared on the JQ destination page also in the last few days!
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:10 am

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Any word/confirmation on JQ getting Q400s? Heard a rumour hat 3x Q400s have left the QF fleet and are joining JQ. All 3 getting painted next week apparently. ROT has appeared on the JQ destination page also in the last few days!


Not in the near future. It takes 11 days to repaint a Q300. Also you need pilots.

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Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:23 am

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Any word/confirmation on JQ getting Q400s? Heard a rumour hat 3x Q400s have left the QF fleet and are joining JQ. All 3 getting painted next week apparently. ROT has appeared on the JQ destination page also in the last few days!

Looked like it on the NZ Aviation Facebook page. Someone there in the know almost confirmed it. On there, discussions are also going into a possible ZQN-CHC-ROT route. Also, Q400 markings have apparently been painted at some gates. Apparently mostly for South Island
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Cheap tickets to L.A. now! Should be getting lots of traffic.
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:38 am

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Any word/confirmation on JQ getting Q400s? Heard a rumour hat 3x Q400s have left the QF fleet and are joining JQ. All 3 getting painted next week apparently. ROT has appeared on the JQ destination page also in the last few days!


Can vouch for this, some of my contacts have confirmed this will happen at some point. Apparently PMR-CHC is also on the cards.
 
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:10 am

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Any word/confirmation on JQ getting Q400s? Heard a rumour hat 3x Q400s have left the QF fleet and are joining JQ. All 3 getting painted next week apparently. ROT has appeared on the JQ destination page also in the last few days!


Not in the near future. It takes 11 days to repaint a Q300. Also you need pilots.

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Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:28 am

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Any word/confirmation on JQ getting Q400s? Heard a rumour hat 3x Q400s have left the QF fleet and are joining JQ. All 3 getting painted next week apparently. ROT has appeared on the JQ destination page also in the last few days!


Not in the near future. It takes 11 days to repaint a Q300. Also you need pilots.

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There is a pilot base opening in Napier but currently not enough aircraft to cover the extra crews

You have it the wrong way around, there are still not enough crew to cover the existing flying. Eastern pilots from Australia have been constantly required to keep the schedule going (at significant expense). The operation is already 20% smaller than when launched due to these ongoing issues.
 
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:48 am

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Can vouch for this, some of my contacts have confirmed this will happen at some point. Apparently PMR-CHC is also on the cards.


I wouldnt be surprised if they chose to focus on CHC for some additonal CHC-WLG flying to fill out a schedule which is only 2/day A320.
 
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:52 am

If JQ is gonna run Q400 around, I wonder if it would make sense for NZ to get some CS100 for routes that could support it...
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:38 am

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If JQ is gonna run Q400 around, I wonder if it would make sense for NZ to get some CS100 for routes that could support it...


Knowing NZ they will just throw an A320 at it, the domestic A320s have an bit of slack that could be used. Then to the typical NZ thing, which is to pull back once they have crushed the completion.

JQ Launches - NZ heavily increases the use of the ATR, against JQ Q300s.

I'm pretty sure JQ isn't doing the greatest in New Zealand, hence the next move to try get an grip on the market. The JQ Regional flights are have $35 fares just days before depature.
 
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:44 am

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Sylus wrote:

Can vouch for this, some of my contacts have confirmed this will happen at some point. Apparently PMR-CHC is also on the cards.


I wouldnt be surprised if they chose to focus on CHC for some additonal CHC-WLG flying to fill out a schedule which is only 2/day A320.

Really hoping for some extra JQ WLG - CHC sectors if Q400s join the fleet
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:30 am

Anyone else noticed the funny point of JQ's latest sale titled "enjoy the beach, without splashing out" yet the sale is promoting AKL-WLG and AKL-PMR for $35.

Wouldn't say that would be my first choice for an beach holiday, along with some of the travel dates being in the middle of winter.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:59 am

LamboAston wrote:
Convair ZK-KFH is doing freight runs tonight. I assume CHC as that is where it has been recently. Good to have freight convairs working again alongside the 737 classics.

The Convairs have been chugging up and down the country for the last couple of months. It is certainly less than before they got the jets though. It's like a goodnight drone for me as it comes over Nelson about 11pm.
A mate that works at Post has said they almost expect daily notifcations of the Parcelwork 734s been out of service for various reasons. They liken the jets to a courier van with 500,000km on the clock...
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:36 am

Whoopeecock wrote:
LamboAston wrote:
Convair ZK-KFH is doing freight runs tonight. I assume CHC as that is where it has been recently. Good to have freight convairs working again alongside the 737 classics.

The Convairs have been chugging up and down the country for the last couple of months. It is certainly less than before they got the jets though. It's like a goodnight drone for me as it comes over Nelson about 11pm.
A mate that works at Post has said they almost expect daily notifcations of the Parcelwork 734s been out of service for various reasons. They liken the jets to a courier van with 500,000km on the clock...

Did the 734s replace the F27s for the airpost service?

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:48 am

I'd like to see a coordinated response from the smaller independents to better serve the regions with minimal service. NZ couldn't make money with the twin engine B1900 but that doesn't mean a more comprehensive regional network in NZ can't work and be attractive for both tourists and commuters. For a mountainous country like NZ with narrow roads and increasing congestion getting in and out of the bigger cities there have to be further opportunities here both for tourists and commuters. Population growth in areas like Bay of Plenty, Taupo, Kapiti Coast, Hamilton, etc. Would also be good too to see more use of seaplanes to service areas like the Coromandel, Bay of Plenty, Rotorua Lakes and Taupo, Bay of Islands, Marlborough Sounds, Nelson, Golden Bay, etc. You only need to look at Kenmore Air and Hyack Air in Seattle / BC to see what is possible, albeit on a smaller scale.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:11 am

VirginFlyer wrote:
Whoopeecock wrote:
LamboAston wrote:
Convair ZK-KFH is doing freight runs tonight. I assume CHC as that is where it has been recently. Good to have freight convairs working again alongside the 737 classics.

The Convairs have been chugging up and down the country for the last couple of months. It is certainly less than before they got the jets though. It's like a goodnight drone for me as it comes over Nelson about 11pm.
A mate that works at Post has said they almost expect daily notifcations of the Parcelwork 734s been out of service for various reasons. They liken the jets to a courier van with 500,000km on the clock...

Did the 734s replace the F27s for the airpost service?

V/F

Kind of. They were supposed to replace the Convairs too. The F27s used to go into BHE as well as AKL, PMR & CHC. Now the 734s only go to AKL, PMR & CHC. More road transport I think.

https://www.nzpost.co.nz/about-us/media ... ht-parcels

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industr ... ping-grows
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:06 am

Whoopeecock wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
Whoopeecock wrote:
The Convairs have been chugging up and down the country for the last couple of months. It is certainly less than before they got the jets though. It's like a goodnight drone for me as it comes over Nelson about 11pm.
A mate that works at Post has said they almost expect daily notifcations of the Parcelwork 734s been out of service for various reasons. They liken the jets to a courier van with 500,000km on the clock...

Did the 734s replace the F27s for the airpost service?

V/F

Kind of. They were supposed to replace the Convairs too. The F27s used to go into BHE as well as AKL, PMR & CHC. Now the 734s only go to AKL, PMR & CHC. More road transport I think.

https://www.nzpost.co.nz/about-us/media ... ht-parcels

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industr ... ping-grows

Yep. Both F27s are sitting in AKL with the Chathams aircraft on the far right when looking from the runway.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:34 am

NZ321 wrote:
I'd like to see a coordinated response from the smaller independents to better serve the regions with minimal service. .


As I've posted before, fingers crossed that the reported dreams of Sounds Air come true:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/951 ... ristchurch

"Sounds Air investigates larger planes between Blenheim and Christchurch

Marlborough airline Sounds Air is considering a "quantum leap" to larger aircraft on a route Air New Zealand ditched last year due to a lack of demand, its chief executive says.

The carrier operates a fleet of 12 and 9-seaters but is exploring larger aircraft on the Blenheim to Christchurch route it started flying in August.

There were no new models being manufactured in the capacity range between the 12-seat Cessna Caravan and the 70-seat ATR 72, so the company was looking at older models, he said.

These included the 19-seat Beechcraft 1900D that Air New Zealand had been flying on the route, and the 34-seat Saab 340.

The Sounds Air chief executive said a decision on the introduction of larger planes would be made within a month, and he believed there was enough demand to make it work."


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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:43 am

mariner wrote:
NZ321 wrote:
I'd like to see a coordinated response from the smaller independents to better serve the regions with minimal service. .


As I've posted before, fingers crossed that the reported dreams of Sounds Air come true:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/951 ... ristchurch

"Sounds Air investigates larger planes between Blenheim and Christchurch

Marlborough airline Sounds Air is considering a "quantum leap" to larger aircraft on a route Air New Zealand ditched last year due to a lack of demand, its chief executive says.

The carrier operates a fleet of 12 and 9-seaters but is exploring larger aircraft on the Blenheim to Christchurch route it started flying in August.

There were no new models being manufactured in the capacity range between the 12-seat Cessna Caravan and the 70-seat ATR 72, so the company was looking at older models, he said.

These included the 19-seat Beechcraft 1900D that Air New Zealand had been flying on the route, and the 34-seat Saab 340.

The Sounds Air chief executive said a decision on the introduction of larger planes would be made within a month, and he believed there was enough demand to make it work."


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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:58 am

LamboAston wrote:
Whoopeecock wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
Did the 734s replace the F27s for the airpost service?

V/F

Kind of. They were supposed to replace the Convairs too. The F27s used to go into BHE as well as AKL, PMR & CHC. Now the 734s only go to AKL, PMR & CHC. More road transport I think.

https://www.nzpost.co.nz/about-us/media ... ht-parcels

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industr ... ping-grows

Yep. Both F27s are sitting in AKL with the Chathams aircraft on the far right when looking from the runway.

What is happening with them? Are they effectively retired, or is Airwork looking for other work for them? What does the future hold for them?

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:46 pm

As posted on other threads, Philippine Airlines is launching its nonstop flights to Auckland effective December 6, thrice weekly on the outgoing A343 fleet.

This replaces the previous routing MNL-CNS-AKL four times a week on the A320. Effectively dropping the interesting CNS-AKL-CNS service.

https://www.philippineairlines.com/ph/H ... p-auckland

Of note, NZ had once planned, but since deferred, a non-stop AKL-MNL-AKL 767 service.

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