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Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:40 pm

Hi Guys,

I know this has been discussed before, but I haven't seen anything in the forum for quite a while now, so I figured this is worth a go. What is the current status of American's MD-80's? How many are left in the fleet and what routes still see and will see the type as we head into fall?

Thanks! :)

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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:25 pm

Currently the MD-80 fleet is sitting at 53 strong. I do not know all of the routes for sure but it would appear that most of them are working in the mid western U.S. The aircraft seem to be leaving many stations. I was scheduled to fly one from DFW-ABQ a few weeks ago however, they were pulled from ABQ! I hope this helped.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:37 pm

The MD80's aren't quite done with ABQ yet. One will come back from Aug 5-22 on the 505am red-eye then there will be a few during balloon fiesta in early Oct replacing some Eagle/Mesa CR9's.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:40 pm

They are still rumbling in and out of MKE to DFW. I checked two random dates in Oct and Nov and they are still showing listed on their site for flights to/from DFW. Not sure if that will change before then though
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:44 pm

Most of the intra-TX routes still have a fair amount of frequencies on the S80. Off the top of my head, a sampling:

DFW to:
AUS
SAT
ELP
OKC
TUL
MCI
STL
MSY
CMH
PIT
CLE
MKE

and oddly, the early morning ORD-MCO has been an S80 recently.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:50 pm

I just did a quick search of ORD-DFW for October 18th, and shockingly there is not a single MD-80 scheduled on the route! There are 8 738's, 2 A321's, 1 757 and 1 777 assigned to the flights. Kind of sad considering this used to be a heavy MD-80 route.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:53 pm

The removal of the MD-80s from AA and specifically ORD has opened me up to flying AA again. I know I will get burned for this as an aviation enthusiast but I didn't like flying on them, especially AA's versions...
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:14 pm

I just checked Aug 18th.

Routes from DFW:
ABQ
TUS
OKC
AUS
CMH
CVG
CLE
BWI
ORD
COS
DAY
DSM
DTW
IAH
JAX
IND
MCI
MFE
MEM
MKE
BNA
MSY
ORF
OMA
PIT
RDU
RIC
STL
SAT
TPA
YYZ
TUL
IAD
ICT

Routes from ORD:
SLC
DEN
AUS
DFW
DTW
MCI
MSP
MSY
MCO
PIT
RDU
STL
TPA
BWI
SAT

Of course these will probably change in the fall and winter.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:16 pm

ooslc wrote:
I just checked Aug 18th.

Routes from DFW:
ABQ
TUS
OKC
AUS
CMH
CVG
CLE
BWI
ORD
COS
DAY
DSM
DTW
IAH
JAX
IND
MCI
MFE
MEM
MKE
BNA
MSY
ORF
OMA
PIT
RDU
RIC
STL
SAT
TPA
YYZ
TUL
IAD
ICT

Routes from ORD:
SLC
DEN
AUS
DFW
DTW
MCI
MSP
MSY
MCO
PIT
RDU
STL
TPA
BWI
SAT

Of course these will probably change in the fall and winter.


But it looks like ORD-DFW loses it fairly quickly after.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:21 pm

TWA1985 wrote:
ooslc wrote:
I just checked Aug 18th.

Routes from DFW:
ABQ
TUS
OKC
AUS
CMH
CVG
CLE
BWI
ORD
COS
DAY
DSM
DTW
IAH
JAX
IND
MCI
MFE
MEM
MKE
BNA
MSY
ORF
OMA
PIT
RDU
RIC
STL
SAT
TPA
YYZ
TUL
IAD
ICT

Routes from ORD:
SLC
DEN
AUS
DFW
DTW
MCI
MSP
MSY
MCO
PIT
RDU
STL
TPA
BWI
SAT

Of course these will probably change in the fall and winter.


But it looks like ORD-DFW loses it fairly quickly after.


Yeah looks like they'll have to shuffle them through an outstation to get them between hubs. Do we know when these last planes are being retired? I always heard the end of this year.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:24 pm

Thank goodness COS is still on there, I love watching her fly over the house on short final.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:27 pm

BMcD wrote:
Thank goodness COS is still on there, I love watching her fly over the house on short final.


I miss it here at PDX. All I see now is the 737, 321, and E175. Borrrring. :yawn:
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:07 pm

BMcD wrote:
Thank goodness COS is still on there, I love watching her fly over the house on short final.

They turn to 737's on the 22nd of August.

Also on the 22nd of August DFW-VPS will see the S80 and ORD-BZN on Saturday's through 7th of October.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:01 pm

Chuska wrote:
The MD80's aren't quite done with ABQ yet. One will come back from Aug 5-22 on the 505am red-eye then there will be a few during balloon fiesta in early Oct replacing some Eagle/Mesa CR9's.

OMG thank you so much for that information!!! My friend and I have been desperately trying to go spot the last AA MD-80 flights at ABQ and were very disappointed when we didn't see any more in the schedule. Time for a trip to the airport!
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:26 pm

GSP will see them return again on the GSP-DFW flights! Currently flown with an E175.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:30 pm

redwingspilot wrote:
BMcD wrote:
Thank goodness COS is still on there, I love watching her fly over the house on short final.

They turn to 737's on the 22nd of August.

Also on the 22nd of August DFW-VPS will see the S80 and ORD-BZN on Saturday's through 7th of October.


You seriously broke my heart there :(. Sad day to see her go.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:39 pm

I thought it was supposed to be 52 currently...and like last year, I'm thinking 20 or so will be dropped in late August.

So do the remaining 32 get dumped by the end of the year?
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:01 pm

Another mass, one-day retirement like last year?
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:32 pm

727LOVER wrote:
I thought it was supposed to be 52 currently...and like last year, I'm thinking 20 or so will be dropped in late August.

So do the remaining 32 get dumped by the end of the year?

According to AA's fleet plan at the start of the year, 25 will be retired this year. The remaining 32 will be retired at some point next year once 737 MAXs start coming in thick and fast.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:57 pm

Breathe wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
I thought it was supposed to be 52 currently...and like last year, I'm thinking 20 or so will be dropped in late August.

So do the remaining 32 get dumped by the end of the year?

According to AA's fleet plan at the start of the year, 25 will be retired this year. The remaining 32 will be retired at some point next year once 737 MAXs start coming in thick and fast.


The 32 at year end was revised to 42, to replace lost Air Wisconsin service.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:21 pm

Chuska wrote:
The MD80's aren't quite done with ABQ yet. One will come back from Aug 5-22 on the 505am red-eye then there will be a few during balloon fiesta in early Oct replacing some Eagle/Mesa CR9's.


Yes! I will take an S80 over a YV POS CRJ-900 any day! Glad they are going to ABQ! Want a few more rides!
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:51 am

727LOVER wrote:
I thought it was supposed to be 52 currently...and like last year, I'm thinking 20 or so will be dropped in late August.

So do the remaining 32 get dumped by the end of the year?


Yep it's at 52 right now. N954U just went to the desert a few days ago.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:00 am

Some MD-80s will stay till 2019 and maybe longer
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:11 pm

MD80 still fly's ORD-PSP in late November.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:12 pm

MO11 wrote:
Breathe wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
I thought it was supposed to be 52 currently...and like last year, I'm thinking 20 or so will be dropped in late August.

So do the remaining 32 get dumped by the end of the year?

According to AA's fleet plan at the start of the year, 25 will be retired this year. The remaining 32 will be retired at some point next year once 737 MAXs start coming in thick and fast.


The 32 at year end was revised to 42, to replace lost Air Wisconsin service.


So they'll be starting 2018 with 42. So I'd imagine a few will go in the 1st quarter, and the rest would go at the end of summer. That is my assumption.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:22 pm

Here's what routes American has loaded in the GDS for August 3 and beyond.

From To Flights Min Date Max Date
ABQ DFW 25 6-Aug-17 16-Oct-17
AMA DFW 307 23-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ATL DFW 3 5-Aug-17 19-Aug-17
AUS DFW 99 3-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
AUS ORD 1073 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
BNA DFW 1611 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
BWI DFW 632 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
BWI ORD 92 3-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
BZN ORD 6 27-Aug-17 1-Oct-17
CHS DFW 1 3-Sep-17 3-Sep-17
CLE DFW 1035 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
CMH DFW 1449 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
COS DFW 89 3-Aug-17 26-Nov-17
CRP DFW 233 5-Nov-17 25-Jun-18
CVG DFW 654 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DAY DFW 649 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DEN DFW 472 5-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DEN ORD 494 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW ABQ 25 5-Aug-17 16-Oct-17
DFW AMA 308 22-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW ATL 3 5-Aug-17 19-Aug-17
DFW AUS 99 3-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
DFW BNA 1613 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW BWI 631 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW CHS 1 2-Sep-17 2-Sep-17
DFW CLE 1034 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW CMH 1449 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW COS 87 3-Aug-17 27-Nov-17
DFW CRP 233 5-Nov-17 25-Jun-18
DFW CVG 654 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW DAY 649 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW DEN 240 5-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW DSM 976 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW DTW 168 3-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
DFW ELP 1091 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW GSP 150 22-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
DFW IAD 1046 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW IAH 1380 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW ICT 283 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW IND 1293 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW JAX 936 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW LBB 283 22-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW MCI 1680 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW MEM 39 3-Aug-17 26-Nov-17
DFW MFE 682 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW MKE 946 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW MSP 931 5-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW MSY 1481 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW MTJ 125 15-Dec-17 2-Apr-18
DFW OKC 1402 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW OMA 741 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW ORD 1471 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW ORF 504 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW PIT 996 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW RDU 1058 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW RIC 796 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW SAT 120 3-Aug-17 3-Nov-17
DFW SDF 303 22-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW SLC 931 5-Nov-17 25-Jun-18
DFW SMF 1 26-Nov-17 26-Nov-17
DFW STL 1696 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW TPA 20 5-Aug-17 21-Aug-17
DFW TUL 756 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DFW TUS 41 3-Aug-17 21-Aug-17
DFW VPS 146 22-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
DFW YYZ 402 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DSM DFW 975 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DTW DFW 168 3-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
DTW ORD 907 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ELP DFW 624 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
EWR ORD 464 5-Nov-17 25-Jun-18
GSP DFW 149 22-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
IAD DFW 1045 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
IAH DFW 2275 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ICT DFW 284 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
IND DFW 1295 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
JAX DFW 1167 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
LBB DFW 282 23-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MCI DFW 1681 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MCI ORD 23 3-Aug-17 22-Aug-17
MCO ORD 250 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MEM DFW 40 3-Aug-17 26-Nov-17
MFE DFW 448 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MKE DFW 946 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MSP DFW 932 5-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MSP ORD 1917 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MSY DFW 1477 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MSY ORD 27 3-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
MTJ DFW 125 15-Dec-17 2-Apr-18
OKC DFW 1402 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
OMA DFW 774 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD AUS 1072 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD BWI 92 3-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
ORD BZN 6 26-Aug-17 30-Sep-17
ORD DEN 494 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD DFW 1482 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD DTW 909 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD EWR 463 5-Nov-17 25-Jun-18
ORD MCI 22 3-Aug-17 21-Aug-17
ORD MCO 252 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD MSP 1917 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD MSY 27 3-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
ORD ORF 602 22-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD PIT 16 3-Aug-17 21-Aug-17
ORD PSP 233 5-Nov-17 25-Jun-18
ORD RDU 889 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD SAT 325 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD SLC 381 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD STL 1204 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD TPA 485 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD TUL 231 5-Nov-17 25-Jun-18
ORD TUS 464 3-Sep-17 25-Jun-18
ORF DFW 505 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORF ORD 600 22-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
PIT DFW 995 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
PIT ORD 17 3-Aug-17 22-Aug-17
PSP ORD 232 5-Nov-17 25-Jun-18
RDU DFW 1030 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
RDU ORD 919 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
RIC DFW 795 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
SAT DFW 120 3-Aug-17 3-Nov-17
SAT ORD 327 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
SDF DFW 303 22-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
SLC DFW 930 5-Nov-17 25-Jun-18
SLC ORD 380 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
SMF DFW 1 26-Nov-17 26-Nov-17
STL DFW 1673 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
STL ORD 1227 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
TPA DFW 20 5-Aug-17 21-Aug-17
TPA ORD 485 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
TUL DFW 554 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
TUL ORD 234 22-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
TUS DFW 39 3-Aug-17 3-Sep-17
TUS ORD 467 5-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
VPS DFW 145 22-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
YYZ DFW 402 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18

And by airport:
From Flights Min Date Max Date
DFW 31900 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORD 11566 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
STL 2900 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MSP 2849 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
IAH 2275 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
RDU 1949 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MCI 1704 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
BNA 1611 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MSY 1504 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
CMH 1449 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
OKC 1402 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
SLC 1310 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
IND 1295 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
AUS 1172 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
JAX 1167 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ORF 1105 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DTW 1075 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
IAD 1045 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
CLE 1035 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
PIT 1012 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DSM 975 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DEN 966 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MKE 946 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
RIC 795 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
TUL 788 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
OMA 774 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
BWI 724 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
CVG 654 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
DAY 649 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ELP 624 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
TUS 506 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
TPA 505 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
EWR 464 5-Nov-17 25-Jun-18
MFE 448 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
SAT 447 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
YYZ 402 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
AMA 307 23-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
SDF 303 22-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
ICT 284 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
LBB 282 23-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
MCO 250 3-Aug-17 25-Jun-18
CRP 233 5-Nov-17 25-Jun-18
PSP 232 5-Nov-17 25-Jun-18
GSP 149 22-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
VPS 145 22-Aug-17 4-Nov-17
MTJ 125 15-Dec-17 2-Apr-18
COS 89 3-Aug-17 26-Nov-17
MEM 40 3-Aug-17 26-Nov-17
ABQ 25 6-Aug-17 16-Oct-17
BZN 6 27-Aug-17 1-Oct-17
ATL 3 5-Aug-17 19-Aug-17
CHS 1 3-Sep-17 3-Sep-17
SMF 1 26-Nov-17 26-Nov-17
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:23 pm

TUSAA wrote:
Some MD-80s will stay till 2019 and maybe longer

Really? Do you have a link to confirm this. I was of the under the impression AA wanted to dump their MD-80's fairly quickly. The youngest plane in the fleet is nearly 18 years old.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:28 pm

Breathe wrote:
TUSAA wrote:
Some MD-80s will stay till 2019 and maybe longer

Really? Do you have a link to confirm this. I was of the under the impression AA wanted to dump their MD-80's fairly quickly. The youngest plane in the fleet is nearly 18 years old.


Last I heard was they'd all be gone by the end of Q1 2018
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:53 pm

Breathe wrote:
TUSAA wrote:
Some MD-80s will stay till 2019 and maybe longer

Really? Do you have a link to confirm this. I was of the under the impression AA wanted to dump their MD-80's fairly quickly. The youngest plane in the fleet is nearly 18 years old.

Per Robert Isom in a employee meeting July 11th..30 MD80s will stay into 2019. It's on video but I'm not allowed to post it here.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:27 pm

TUSAA wrote:
Breathe wrote:
TUSAA wrote:
Some MD-80s will stay till 2019 and maybe longer

Really? Do you have a link to confirm this. I was of the under the impression AA wanted to dump their MD-80's fairly quickly. The youngest plane in the fleet is nearly 18 years old.

Per Robert Isom in a employee meeting July 11th..30 MD80s will stay into 2019. It's on video but I'm not allowed to post it here.


Awesome news!
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:29 pm

And COS stays! Happy dance! Nothing like hearing and seeing them fly over. She is an elegant lady, it will be a sad day when they are no longer gracing our skies.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:37 pm

TUSAA wrote:
Breathe wrote:
TUSAA wrote:
Some MD-80s will stay till 2019 and maybe longer

Really? Do you have a link to confirm this. I was of the under the impression AA wanted to dump their MD-80's fairly quickly. The youngest plane in the fleet is nearly 18 years old.

Per Robert Isom in a employee meeting July 11th..30 MD80s will stay into 2019. It's on video but I'm not allowed to post it here.

Wow! I guess AA want to fly these birds until they get their full monies worth or until they literally start to fall apart. :-D
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:41 pm

As long as oil stays cheap, say $55 a barrel and lower, then the only reason to retire any given MD-80 will be required maintenance. If oil starts a run-up, even to $70 a barrel, I assume that the retirement schedule is accelerated.

By the same token, if an RJ operator has trouble fulfilling its flying obligations, AA can slot in MD-80s to cover that flying. A few years ago, my roundtrip from ORD to IAH was had E175s swapped for MD-80s, because Republic was having staffing issues.

The only problem with swapping Eagle aircraft for an MD-80 is that fares may have to be lowered, in order to fill seats. When AA did the E175 to MD-80 swap, fares dropped significantly.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:44 pm

United787 wrote:
The removal of the MD-80s from AA and specifically ORD has opened me up to flying AA again. I know I will get burned for this as an aviation enthusiast but I didn't like flying on them, especially AA's versions...

I agree. I don't have status, so I'd always end up near the rear of the plane which is loud as hell. Plus, overhead space is significantly smaller than any of the A320 or 737's.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:59 pm

Earlier today I looked up and saw N965TW coming into ORD. I forgot to look, but I assume it was from DFW.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:00 pm

I know the chances of it happening are slim to none, but it would be nice if they repainted the last remaining ex-TW MD-80 in its delivery colors as a tribute.

(only with the correct white fuselage instead of the gray one on N915NN)

Breathe wrote:
TUSAA wrote:
Some MD-80s will stay till 2019 and maybe longer

Really? Do you have a link to confirm this. I was of the under the impression AA wanted to dump their MD-80's fairly quickly. The youngest plane in the fleet is nearly 18 years old.


To be fair, you can say the same thing about the 737 and 777-200 fleets. N770AN was delivered in January 1999 and N901AN followed the next month.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:24 pm

United787 wrote:

The removal of the MD-80s from AA and specifically ORD has opened me up to flying AA again. I know I will get burned for this as an aviation enthusiast but I didn't like flying on them, especially AA's versions...


I won't burn you, maybe singe you a little...but I've heard the 319's are brutal on the legroom, of course I have 3 out of 4 flights on my December STL-MIA-GCM-MIA-STL booked on those things so I'll see how it goes. I'll take the noise of the MD's over no legroom any day.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:31 am

trnswrld wrote:
Earlier today I looked up and saw N965TW coming into ORD. I forgot to look, but I assume it was from DFW.


Close, it was from SAT ;-)
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:07 am

With so few Mad Dogs left....why does ORD even have any? I'm very surprised that they are not consolidated @ DFW.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:59 am

OB1504 wrote:
I know the chances of it happening are slim to none, but it would be nice if they repainted the last remaining ex-TW MD-80 in its delivery colors as a tribute.

(only with the correct white fuselage instead of the gray one on N915NN)

Breathe wrote:
TUSAA wrote:
Some MD-80s will stay till 2019 and maybe longer

Really? Do you have a link to confirm this. I was of the under the impression AA wanted to dump their MD-80's fairly quickly. The youngest plane in the fleet is nearly 18 years old.


To be fair, you can say the same thing about the 737 and 777-200 fleets. N770AN was delivered in January 1999 and N901AN followed the next month.

Those are the oldest examples in the fleet.. not the youngest. So no, not "the same thing."
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:08 am

what are the former MD-80 pilots doing, getting type ratings for other aircraft?
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:58 pm

Sure glad to see some of these markets with high frequency Eagle flights pick up a mainline jet or two like DFW to AMA and LBB. Glad to see VPS picking up MD80's. Hope LIT and XNA get AA mainliners back as well. Seems to be at least a temporary solution to the staffing issues going on with many carriers; use larger aircraft with less frequency. Maybe we'll see more widebodies return on DFW-LAX, LGA, MIA, PHX, etc.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:45 pm

DFWflightpath wrote:
what are the former MD-80 pilots doing, getting type ratings for other aircraft?


Most MD-80 pilots switch to the 738.
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:01 pm

Chuska wrote:
Sure glad to see some of these markets with high frequency Eagle flights pick up a mainline jet or two like DFW to AMA and LBB. Glad to see VPS picking up MD80's.


Agreed. VPS is likely picking up mainline due to business traffic, and AA continues to have a longstanding, strong presence in West Texas.

Chuska wrote:
Hope LIT and XNA get AA mainliners back as well.


I think that's quite possible on and off over the next 18-24 months - those are two of the shorter-haul, formerly-partially-mainline markets where AA has a strong penetration with corporate traffic and thus premium demand is likely healthy.

Chuska wrote:
Maybe we'll see more widebodies return on DFW-LAX, LGA, MIA, PHX, etc.


As AA's widebody fleet evolves, I think that is going to be relatively less likely - outside of specialized, seasonal utilization flying - going forward. AA's widebody fleet is going to be losing 767s and A330s in the coming months, and replacing them with 787s and A350s. Relatively speaking, I think the former are far more likely to be used domestically, in a meaningful and regularly-scheduled way, than the latter which are designed and purpose-built to be exceptionally economical long haul machines.
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:24 pm

simairlinenet wrote:
Here's what routes American has loaded in the GDS for August 3 and beyond.



Assuming that 25Jun18 is as far out as the sked goes? (Else that will be a hell of a 'last day' for avgeeks...)
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:22 pm

OB1504 wrote:
I know the chances of it happening are slim to none, but it would be nice if they repainted the last remaining ex-TW MD-80 in its delivery colors as a tribute.

(only with the correct white fuselage instead of the gray one on N915NN)

Breathe wrote:
TUSAA wrote:
Some MD-80s will stay till 2019 and maybe longer

Really? Do you have a link to confirm this. I was of the under the impression AA wanted to dump their MD-80's fairly quickly. The youngest plane in the fleet is nearly 18 years old.


To be fair, you can say the same thing about the 737 and 777-200 fleets. N770AN was delivered in January 1999 and N901AN followed the next month.

I suppose with so many MD-80's now in the desert, they won't have a problem for parts with the "youngest" planes they plane on keeping in the fleet for longer. Given the recent deferrals with the deliveries of the A350 and 787, AA have clearly decided that they can afford to slow down their fleet renewal and save on CAPEX for the next couple of years. When AA started the huge overhaul of their fleet the price of oil was around or over $100. Given there isn't any indication that the price isn't going to rocket up any time soon, I guess its a prudent move on their part and the MD-80 fans can enjoy seeing the plane for an extra year or so. :-)
 
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Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:25 am

Wasn't there some sort of modification that had to be done by year-end 2017?
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