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British Airways A380 US Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:29 am

As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:35 am

The A380 still operates to Miami for most of the year. It resumes on October 1st.

It is also operating LHR-BOS.
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:39 am

Would like to see one operate LHR-IAH since there's an empty Airbus A380 gate ever since EK down-gauged.
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:45 am

MLIAA wrote:
As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?


ORD and DFW possibly (ORD is more of a frequency route, although BA has mentioned flying it to ORD).

CLT and PHL, not likely.
 
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Re: British Airways A380 US Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:48 am

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MLIAA wrote:
As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?


ORD and DFW possibly (ORD is more of a frequency route, although BA has mentioned flying it to ORD).

CLT and PHL, not likely.


Does concourse D at CLT have A380 capable gates?
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:52 am

globalcabotage wrote:
MLIAA wrote:
As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?


ORD and DFW possibly (ORD is more of a frequency route, although BA has mentioned flying it to ORD).

CLT and PHL, not likely.

I'll go as far as to say no to PHL. I do not think I've seen anything from the airport proposing adjustments to gates and taxiways to handle the 380. I am pretty sure when the 380 has diverted to PHL adjacent taxiways had to be considered during the 380 movement and it just went to a remote stand.
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:58 am

I thought I have seen a BA A38 at IAD.
 
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Re: British Airways A380 US Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:28 am

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I thought I have seen a BA A38 at IAD.


It has been in the past, probably will be again soon, but not today.
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Re: British Airways A380 US Routes

Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:52 am

MLIAA wrote:
As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?


If we're only counting 8/1, then this is correct. However, BOS still gets the A380 from LHR on Sun/Mon/Fri and will do through October.
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:04 am

MLIAA wrote:
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I thought I have seen a BA A38 at IAD.


It has been in the past, probably will be again soon, but not today.

By past, you mean two days ago on BA217? BA sends the A380 to IAD regularly. 217 has been A380 about four times weekly lately.
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:04 am

MLIAA wrote:
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I thought I have seen a BA A38 at IAD.


It has been in the past, probably will be again soon, but not today.


They've switched the A388 with the B744 on the route, but the A380 operated IAD-LHR as recently as July 30.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW ... /KIAD/EGLL
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:42 am

MIA is expected to be a year-round service for the A380 soon.
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:42 am

That would be so cool if they could fly the A380 direct to Hawaii at least on a seasonal basis.
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:27 am

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MIA is expected to be a year-round service for the A380 soon.


Is LAX BA's only US destination that sees daily year round A380 serivce? Ever since BA got the A380 the later LAX rotation (BA269/268) has consistently been operated daily by the A380. The earlier LAX rotation (BA283/282) sees a mix of A380/747/777 during winter timetable while it is A380 during the summer.
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:30 am

SFO is year round daily
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:33 am

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That would be so cool if they could fly the A380 direct to Hawaii at least on a seasonal basis.


Cool, maybe, but since precisely no airlines offer non-stop service from Europe to Hawaii at the moment, perhaps starting with something a little smaller would be a good idea. We've had lots of threads about why there are no flights from Europe to Hawaii, so I won't do more than say it is a lot less of a "must visit" leisure destination for Europeans than it is for Americans.
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:21 am

A - I hope it's still on LHR-BOS, because I'm on it on Sunday ;-)
B - More seriously, this shows how short BA is of A380s, I'm still very surprised that they haven't ordered more. For Y pax they have to be the ride of choice: Y in BA B789 versus Y in BA A380 is no contest and a very easy travel decision to make.
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:31 am

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SFO is year round daily


Not for much longer - it will be reduced to 3x weekly W17. The remaining 4x BA287/286 will be 777-236ER and one 747-436.

London Heathrow – San Francisco Operational aircraft changes
BA285/284 747-400 replaces 777-200ER
BA287/286 A380 service reduces from 7 to 3 weekly (Day 467). Day 123 operated by 777-200ER, Day 5 by 747-400

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-21jul17/

I would expect BA 287/286 to revert to a full A380 service for S18.
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:35 am

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A - I hope it's still on LHR-BOS, because I'm on it on Sunday ;-)
B - More seriously, this shows how short BA is of A380s, I'm still very surprised that they haven't ordered more. For Y pax they have to be the ride of choice: Y in BA B789 versus Y in BA A380 is no contest and a very easy travel decision to make.


Back in the day, passengers supposedly preferred to fly transatlantic on BOAC's Super VC10s. It didn't mean that US airlines rushed to place orders for it. Airline bean counters care not one jot whether passengers prefer the experience of one type over another (and, of course, BOAC tried very hard NOT to have Super VC10s), money rules and operating economics will always win out over alleged passenger preference, which in any case is very much a case of one man's meat etc.
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:11 am

Rather than being short of A380s, could it be more that the routes do not justify it outside their peak seasons?

GCT64 wrote:
this shows how short BA is of A380s, I'm still very surprised that they haven't ordered more. For Y pax they have to be the ride of choice: Y in BA B789 versus Y in BA A380 is no contest and a very easy travel decision to make.
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:16 am

fcogafa wrote:
Rather than being short of A380s, could it be more that the routes do not justify it outside their peak seasons?

GCT64 wrote:
this shows how short BA is of A380s, I'm still very surprised that they haven't ordered more. For Y pax they have to be the ride of choice: Y in BA B789 versus Y in BA A380 is no contest and a very easy travel decision to make.


As expected a good dose of "A380 negativity" - why does this plane attract so much hatred? I think anyone who observes BA's LHR operations closely, and experiences them, would judge that BA needs more A380s not less. Willie Walsh has also said so, he just doesn't like Airbus' price.
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:21 am

fcogafa wrote:
Rather than being short of A380s, could it be more that the routes do not justify it outside their peak seasons?


More clearly BA is short on A380s, so needs to make sure they make every possible $ from them. Putting them in some specific routes depending on the season will be more profitable, to better to squeeze the whale getting the higher yield wherever it is. Those destination actually suffer the capacity downgrade, not lack of demand.
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:23 am

It will be interesting to see what happens with BOS next summer...whether they stick with the same Fr, Su, M rotation, or some other schedule (of course, another option is that it doesn't come back but I think that's an unlikely option).
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:21 pm

British Airways is probably short A380, Willie Walsh has said several times that he doesn't like Airbus prices for new one and has not been able to find used ones he likes. One would think Malaysia Airlines would be open to leasing their six A380 to BA, but what the Malaysian's think they are worth and BA's are in two different neighborhoods.
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:32 pm

usairways85 wrote:
globalcabotage wrote:
MLIAA wrote:
As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?


ORD and DFW possibly (ORD is more of a frequency route, although BA has mentioned flying it to ORD).

CLT and PHL, not likely.

I'll go as far as to say no to PHL. I do not think I've seen anything from the airport proposing adjustments to gates and taxiways to handle the 380. I am pretty sure when the 380 has diverted to PHL adjacent taxiways had to be considered during the 380 movement and it just went to a remote stand.

And that is a firm no for CLT. BA doesn't even fly to the airport. AA flies the route 2x A333 daily for a total of 56 J seats and 526 Y seats. You are not going to see a plane with 14F seats, 97 J seats, and 55 premium Y seats on the route.
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:37 pm

PHX!! I've only seen one A380 in person and that was an Emirates plane that for some reason flew over the basketball court I was playing at during one of their LAX-Dubai run so I would love to get a chance to see one up close and personal...BA could upgrade!!
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:54 pm

vhtje wrote:
as739x wrote:
SFO is year round daily


Not for much longer - it will be reduced to 3x weekly W17. The remaining 4x BA287/286 will be 777-236ER and one 747-436.

London Heathrow – San Francisco Operational aircraft changes
BA285/284 747-400 replaces 777-200ER
BA287/286 A380 service reduces from 7 to 3 weekly (Day 467). Day 123 operated by 777-200ER, Day 5 by 747-400

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-21jul17/

I would expect BA 287/286 to revert to a full A380 service for S18.


This annoyed me as I'm due to fly on a the 287 on a Monday :cry:
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:55 pm

Not sure this shows BA are short of A380s, more so that they're not fully convinced on where to deploy them TBH.
It's just too big for many routes out of high season, this is likely why Willie can't see an ROI on more new frames.
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:55 pm

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This annoyed me as I'm due to fly on a the 287 on a Monday :cry:


An email to BA cust support wont probably help, but wont hurt either...
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:57 pm

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This annoyed me as I'm due to fly on a the 287 on a Monday :cry:


BA286/287 remain all-A380 until the 29th October. Fly before then perhaps? :D
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:15 pm

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Back in the day, passengers supposedly preferred to fly transatlantic on BOAC's Super VC10s. It didn't mean that US airlines rushed to place orders for it. Airline bean counters care not one jot whether passengers prefer the experience of one type over another (and, of course, BOAC tried very hard NOT to have Super VC10s), money rules and operating economics will always win out over alleged passenger preference, which in any case is very much a case of one man's meat etc.


Not entirely true. By the time BOAC realised it could actually make more money operating the VC-10 than the 707, thanks to higher loads, the VC-10's time was over and BOAC was moving into the wide body era.

Fact is the A380 does add to the flying experience. Put that in the mix with other operational factors and for average Joe pax it can be the difference between thinking that a flight was "just a flight" or "that was a real nice flight".
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:27 pm

usairways85 wrote:
globalcabotage wrote:
MLIAA wrote:
As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?


ORD and DFW possibly (ORD is more of a frequency route, although BA has mentioned flying it to ORD).

CLT and PHL, not likely.

I'll go as far as to say no to PHL. I do not think I've seen anything from the airport proposing adjustments to gates and taxiways to handle the 380. I am pretty sure when the 380 has diverted to PHL adjacent taxiways had to be considered during the 380 movement and it just went to a remote stand.


To further add information about PHL, an A380 has only diverted here twice: one EK and one LH (who I wound up working), both from JFK. A380s can only operate on Runway 9R/27L and the parallel taxiway must be clear while the A380 is utilizing the runway, and vice versa. Then the A380 can only park on a specific remote stand near the De-Ice apron and must use a specific taxi route to get there. When LH diverted theirs here a few months ago it was without any notice and it shut down operations on 9R for a solid 10 minutes or more. During that time all our arrivals were in the hold and an RJ actually diverted from one of our holding patterns while were shut down. To top it off, the city must do a runway sweep before and after any A380 operation as well.

So, unless PHL gets an entirely new airport that is designed with A380s in mind, then it is a resounding NO if there will be A380 service here.
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:50 pm

vhtje wrote:
TurnaroudUK wrote:

This annoyed me as I'm due to fly on a the 287 on a Monday :cry:


BA286/287 remain all-A380 until the 29th October. Fly before then perhaps? :D


Unfortunatly it's in December, Appreciate the good wil though
 
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Fact is the A380 does add to the flying experience. Put that in the mix with other operational factors and for average Joe pax it can be the difference between thinking that a flight was "just a flight" or "that was a real nice flight".


It's interesting to look at pricing across all classes on BA28 (B77W) and BA32 (A380) which run HKG-LHR on almost exactly the same schedule. A380 seat pricing is never less than the B77W seat price and often commands a higher price (for the same class on the same date booked at the same time). This can only reflect more customer desirability (presumably amongst the more frequent, experienced flyers, others wouldn't know the difference), certainly I pick the A380 on that route if I can.
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:13 pm

TurnaroudUK wrote:
vhtje wrote:
as739x wrote:
SFO is year round daily


Not for much longer - it will be reduced to 3x weekly W17. The remaining 4x BA287/286 will be 777-236ER and one 747-436.

London Heathrow – San Francisco Operational aircraft changes
BA285/284 747-400 replaces 777-200ER
BA287/286 A380 service reduces from 7 to 3 weekly (Day 467). Day 123 operated by 777-200ER, Day 5 by 747-400

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-21jul17/

I would expect BA 287/286 to revert to a full A380 service for S18.


This annoyed me as I'm due to fly on a the 287 on a Monday :cry:


Although the A380 is great to experience (especially for aviation enthusiasts like us) the old BA 772s are a far more comfortable ride in Y...
 
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Although the A380 is great to experience (especially for aviation enthusiasts like us) the old BA 772s are a far more comfortable ride in Y...


Extremely disagree...
 
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PHX!! I've only seen one A380 in person and that was an Emirates plane that for some reason flew over the basketball court I was playing at during one of their LAX-Dubai run so I would love to get a chance to see one up close and personal...BA could upgrade!!

The airport is not A380 capable. It can only handle diversions, but not regular service. As far as I know, there are no plans to make the airport A380 capable, and there's been no interest to do so. Furthermore, BA has proven they'd rather operate a second B744 frequency than upgauge. I highly doubt PHX will ever see scheduled A380 service.
 
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:55 pm

The irritating thing about economy on a BA A380 is that the armrests don't raise all the way, which makes it hard to lie across empty seats (of which there were plenty on my last two SFO-LHR / LHR-SFO runs). You have to carefully wedge yourself underneath them just so. Why?!?!
 
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It's interesting to look at pricing across all classes on BA28 (B77W) and BA32 (A380) which run HKG-LHR on almost exactly the same schedule. A380 seat pricing is never less than the B77W seat price and often commands a higher price (for the same class on the same date booked at the same time). This can only reflect more customer desirability (presumably amongst the more frequent, experienced flyers, others wouldn't know the difference), certainly I pick the A380 on that route if I can.


GCT64, thank you for doing the research I was too lazy to do!

Reciprocally I fly LHR-CPT regularly on the BA old birds (744). Every now and then I bag a cracking fare via JNB which I take. The inconvenience of the non-direct flight is out weighed by the fact I get a nicer ride on the A380.....in truth is also because I like the morning Comair connection to CPT with full cooked breakfast!
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PHX!! I've only seen one A380 in person and that was an Emirates plane that for some reason flew over the basketball court I was playing at during one of their LAX-Dubai run so I would love to get a chance to see one up close and personal...BA could upgrade!!

The airport is not A380 capable. It can only handle diversions, but not regular service. As far as I know, there are no plans to make the airport A380 capable, and there's been no interest to do so. Furthermore, BA has proven they'd rather operate a second B744 frequency than upgauge. I highly doubt PHX will ever see scheduled A380 service.

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Is the A380 both Worldwide and Mixed Fleet cabin crew?
 
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Although the A380 is great to experience (especially for aviation enthusiasts like us) the old BA 772s are a far more comfortable ride in Y...



I...uhh..well...

REALLY?!

On BA?

I have to say I not only very much disagree but find that anyone could have that opinion rather baffling. The 772s are a miserable experience in Y and BA 380s are probably my favorite Y seat I have flown anywhere. Way better than EK's Y seat in the 380, IMO.
 
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Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:51 am

I'd take the BA A380 over any other direct transatlantic flight from London.

I've been fortunate to secure an exit row seat in World Traveller Plus a couple of times and it really is great, particularly with the storage bins at the window.

Even though BA does not have the best business class seat across the pond, the overall environment of the A380 wins over a noisy 777.
 
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The irritating thing about economy on a BA A380 is that the armrests don't raise all the way, which makes it hard to lie across empty seats (of which there were plenty on my last two SFO-LHR / LHR-SFO runs). You have to carefully wedge yourself underneath them just so. Why?!?!


I hate it when people complain about lie-flat beds in Y :)
 
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shankly wrote:
Fact is the A380 does add to the flying experience. Put that in the mix with other operational factors and for average Joe pax it can be the difference between thinking that a flight was "just a flight" or "that was a real nice flight".


It's interesting to look at pricing across all classes on BA28 (B77W) and BA32 (A380) which run HKG-LHR on almost exactly the same schedule. A380 seat pricing is never less than the B77W seat price and often commands a higher price (for the same class on the same date booked at the same time). This can only reflect more customer desirability (presumably amongst the more frequent, experienced flyers, others wouldn't know the difference), certainly I pick the A380 on that route if I can.


I've noticed that too, and makes total sense. There is indeed a pretty large A380 "awareness factor" even among more casual travelers, and the aircraft does indeed offer a FAR superior flying comfort compared to the noisy 777, so I am not surprised one bit that BA or any other company -provided the demand is there- might charge a little extra % premium for it.
 
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Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:59 pm

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JCTJennings wrote:
Back in the day, passengers supposedly preferred to fly transatlantic on BOAC's Super VC10s. It didn't mean that US airlines rushed to place orders for it. Airline bean counters care not one jot whether passengers prefer the experience of one type over another (and, of course, BOAC tried very hard NOT to have Super VC10s), money rules and operating economics will always win out over alleged passenger preference, which in any case is very much a case of one man's meat etc.


Not entirely true. By the time BOAC realised it could actually make more money operating the VC-10 than the 707, thanks to higher loads, the VC-10's time was over and BOAC was moving into the wide body era.

Fact is the A380 does add to the flying experience. Put that in the mix with other operational factors and for average Joe pax it can be the difference between thinking that a flight was "just a flight" or "that was a real nice flight".


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Fully agree Mr Shankly. Flying on the VC10 was remarkably better than anything else really, and VC10 services tended to command a higher price and a higher number of passengers than the equivalent ones on the 707, which in all honesty was noisy and especially uncomfortable in rough weather. When BA realized how great their Vickers fleet was for their books, the 747 was already going to arrive... the rest is history.
The same goes for the A380 vs the 777 in terms of comfort difference. The A380 is in a league of its own.
 
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Re: British Airways A380 US Routes

Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:01 pm

Although the A380 is great to experience (especially for aviation enthusiasts like us) the old BA 772s are a far more comfortable ride in Y...[/
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...No offence my friend, but you seem somewhat confused..?..
 
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Re: British Airways A380 US Routes

Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:02 pm

oldannyboy wrote:
shankly wrote:
JCTJennings wrote:
Back in the day, passengers supposedly preferred to fly transatlantic on BOAC's Super VC10s. It didn't mean that US airlines rushed to place orders for it. Airline bean counters care not one jot whether passengers prefer the experience of one type over another (and, of course, BOAC tried very hard NOT to have Super VC10s), money rules and operating economics will always win out over alleged passenger preference, which in any case is very much a case of one man's meat etc.


Not entirely true. By the time BOAC realised it could actually make more money operating the VC-10 than the 707, thanks to higher loads, the VC-10's time was over and BOAC was moving into the wide body era.

Fact is the A380 does add to the flying experience. Put that in the mix with other operational factors and for average Joe pax it can be the difference between thinking that a flight was "just a flight" or "that was a real nice flight".


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Fully agree Mr Shankly. Flying on the VC10 was remarkably better than anything else really, and VC10 services tended to command a higher price and a higher number of passengers than the equivalent ones on the 707, which in all honesty was noisy and especially uncomfortable in rough weather. When BA realized how great their Vickers fleet was for their books, the 747 was already going to arrive... the rest is history.
The same goes for the A380 vs the 777 in terms of comfort difference. The A380 is in a league of its own.


Hmm... how many A380s sold and how many 777s? As I said economics rule. As for charging extra for A380 flights, how is this a good thing for the traveller? Most people want the cheapest deal they can get. The 747 brought fares down and opened up intercontinental travel to the masses, now apparently the A380 is putting fares up because, well, it's so super comfy!
 
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Re: British Airways A380 US Routes

Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:05 pm

oldannyboy wrote:
shankly wrote:
JCTJennings wrote:
Back in the day, passengers supposedly preferred to fly transatlantic on BOAC's Super VC10s. It didn't mean that US airlines rushed to place orders for it. Airline bean counters care not one jot whether passengers prefer the experience of one type over another (and, of course, BOAC tried very hard NOT to have Super VC10s), money rules and operating economics will always win out over alleged passenger preference, which in any case is very much a case of one man's meat etc.


Not entirely true. By the time BOAC realised it could actually make more money operating the VC-10 than the 707, thanks to higher loads, the VC-10's time was over and BOAC was moving into the wide body era.

Fact is the A380 does add to the flying experience. Put that in the mix with other operational factors and for average Joe pax it can be the difference between thinking that a flight was "just a flight" or "that was a real nice flight".


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Fully agree Mr Shankly. Flying on the VC10 was remarkably better than anything else really, and VC10 services tended to command a higher price and a higher number of passengers than the equivalent ones on the 707, which in all honesty was noisy and especially uncomfortable in rough weather. When BA realized how great their Vickers fleet was for their books, the 747 was already going to arrive... the rest is history.
The same goes for the A380 vs the 777 in terms of comfort difference. The A380 is in a league of its own.
my 2 cents:
I've been flying multible times with 744/ 777 and a380, and can say that a380 is by far better with more space (width at least, the pitch can be adjusted by different airlines). and much more silent cabin. I'm going for it anytime I can choose it even for higher price.
 
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Re: British Airways A380 US Routes

Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:54 pm

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Although the A380 is great to experience (especially for aviation enthusiasts like us) the old BA 772s are a far more comfortable ride in Y...


Gonna have to strongly disagree.

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