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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

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FWIW~ Envoy has 28 x E145 active; 9 at DFW, 1 at MIA, 18 at ORD. 17 are stored at ABI, 13 are stored at SAW, probably some maintenance going on. 16 x E140 are active, all at DFW, 13 are stored at ABI, 28 are stored at MZJ, one (858) is parked at YQB.


Any updates on how many 140's and 145's are active?

Have all the parked 175's returned to service?
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jgcotter wrote:
FWIW~ Envoy has 28 x E145 active; 9 at DFW, 1 at MIA, 18 at ORD. 17 are stored at ABI, 13 are stored at SAW, probably some maintenance going on. 16 x E140 are active, all at DFW, 13 are stored at ABI, 28 are stored at MZJ, one (858) is parked at YQB.


Any updates on how many 140's and 145's are active?

Have all the parked 175's returned to service?

26 x 140 are active, 28 are stored at MZJ and four are stored at ABI. 54 x 145 are active, three are stored at ABI and one is in a heavy check at SAW. All 73 x E175 are active along with three former Compass E175. Three former Compass E175 are at ABI for conformity checks, one is at BNA for a heavy check and 13 are stored at AVW.
 
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AA Eagle @ LAX

Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:40 pm

Now that Compass is gone and AA appears to be resuming some of it's Eagle flying that had been on hold during the Coronavirus, it looks like Skywest has been awarded flights that were previously operated by Compass. Flights for September are all CR7, which is a huge downgrade from the E170 IMHO, especially for flights over 2 hours. I know right now we should be more focussed on getting flights back up and running, and less concerned about passenger comfort and the in-flight experience. I'm just curious whether this change is intended to be permanent or temporary?
 
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SkyWest has 20 E175s on order for the AA operation, but those have been delayed
 
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Re: AA Eagle @ LAX

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Given the shrinking that is going on at AA, especially at LAX we can assume its at least semi-permananet.

There is a possibility Mesa could do through flying for AA at LAX, they have done it before.
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Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:13 pm

The AA schedule after September 8 hasn't been loaded yet, but no reason to think much differently.

Remember that with the reduction in mainline aircraft, there has to be a reduction in "large" regional jets, which is one of the reasons why the Mesa fleet is shrinking.
 
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Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:23 pm

MO11 wrote:
The AA schedule after September 8 hasn't been loaded yet, but no reason to think much differently.

Remember that with the reduction in mainline aircraft, there has to be a reduction in "large" regional jets, which is one of the reasons why the Mesa fleet is shrinking.

True, but there is also a 15 month look back, so COVID cuts aren’t causing any RJs to be pulled for scope compliance yet. The cut prior to this was due to MAX delays and parking.
 
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Re: AA Eagle @ LAX

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Remember that with the reduction in mainline aircraft, there has to be a reduction in "large" regional jets, which is one of the reasons why the Mesa fleet is shrinking.


We also need to take into account the age of the YV CRJ 900 fleet. They were the first "big rj" operator - hence "Freedom Air" as the initial certificated operator of them - going back to 2003! Those birds could be getting a bit long in the tooth.
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Re: AA Eagle @ LAX

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usxguy wrote:
MO11 wrote:
Remember that with the reduction in mainline aircraft, there has to be a reduction in "large" regional jets, which is one of the reasons why the Mesa fleet is shrinking.


We also need to take into account the age of the YV CRJ 900 fleet. They were the first "big rj" operator - hence "Freedom Air" as the initial certificated operator of them - going back to 2003! Those birds could be getting a bit long in the tooth.

A handful of Mesa 900s have been withdrawn from AA flying in the last few months, allowed in the CPA. Not sure if it was performance metrics or what that allowed their removal, but they have indeed taken a few out of service.
 
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TonyClifton wrote:
usxguy wrote:
MO11 wrote:
Remember that with the reduction in mainline aircraft, there has to be a reduction in "large" regional jets, which is one of the reasons why the Mesa fleet is shrinking.


We also need to take into account the age of the YV CRJ 900 fleet. They were the first "big rj" operator - hence "Freedom Air" as the initial certificated operator of them - going back to 2003! Those birds could be getting a bit long in the tooth.

A handful of Mesa 900s have been withdrawn from AA flying in the last few months, allowed in the CPA. Not sure if it was performance metrics or what that allowed their removal, but they have indeed taken a few out of service.


I think as part of an agreement last year I think, if certain performance metrics weren't met, then AA could exercise rights to pull some from the CPA...which they did exercise on some but all of what they could have...but now they are pulling those due to low demand. This should help create more spares to help the operation though, which has been a problem in the past
 
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Re: AA Eagle @ LAX

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Some of the flying that Compass did can also be flown by MQ via the DFW and ORD operations. LIT and XNA to LAX make complete sense to be operated by MQ.
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Re: AA Eagle @ LAX

Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:50 am

TonyClifton wrote:
usxguy wrote:
MO11 wrote:
Remember that with the reduction in mainline aircraft, there has to be a reduction in "large" regional jets, which is one of the reasons why the Mesa fleet is shrinking.


We also need to take into account the age of the YV CRJ 900 fleet. They were the first "big rj" operator - hence "Freedom Air" as the initial certificated operator of them - going back to 2003! Those birds could be getting a bit long in the tooth.

A handful of Mesa 900s have been withdrawn from AA flying in the last few months, allowed in the CPA. Not sure if it was performance metrics or what that allowed their removal, but they have indeed taken a few out of service.


I think I count six that have been repainted.
 
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Re: AA Eagle @ LAX

Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:57 am

MO11 wrote:
TonyClifton wrote:
usxguy wrote:

We also need to take into account the age of the YV CRJ 900 fleet. They were the first "big rj" operator - hence "Freedom Air" as the initial certificated operator of them - going back to 2003! Those birds could be getting a bit long in the tooth.

A handful of Mesa 900s have been withdrawn from AA flying in the last few months, allowed in the CPA. Not sure if it was performance metrics or what that allowed their removal, but they have indeed taken a few out of service.


I think I count six that have been repainted.

Wonder if they’re the old pre-NextGen 900s with the rear galley door.
 
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Re: AA Eagle @ LAX

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ericm2031 wrote:
TonyClifton wrote:
usxguy wrote:

We also need to take into account the age of the YV CRJ 900 fleet. They were the first "big rj" operator - hence "Freedom Air" as the initial certificated operator of them - going back to 2003! Those birds could be getting a bit long in the tooth.

A handful of Mesa 900s have been withdrawn from AA flying in the last few months, allowed in the CPA. Not sure if it was performance metrics or what that allowed their removal, but they have indeed taken a few out of service.


I think as part of an agreement last year I think, if certain performance metrics weren't met, then AA could exercise rights to pull some from the CPA...which they did exercise on some but all of what they could have...but now they are pulling those due to low demand. This should help create more spares to help the operation though, which has been a problem in the past


AA has pulled all of the ones allowed by the performance metrics plus two additional that they are still paying YV for but have advised YV they won't be flying. Due to performance, expect the YV fleet to continue to shrink until all of them can be pulled.

TonyClifton wrote:
MO11 wrote:
I think I count six that have been repainted.

Wonder if they’re the old pre-NextGen 900s with the rear galley door.


There are nine pulled. I believe the 9th is 935LR which hasn't been painted yet as it was in storage in TUS.
N241LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N242LR - now in silver only paint scheme
N939LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N943LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N942LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N944LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N945LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:19 am

I think all the original Freedom Air CRJ 900s had the rear door but were plugged.

You can see them @ the last window of each of these photos. (the HPX livery looked ssoo sharp on these birds)



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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

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usxguy wrote:
I think all the original Freedom Air CRJ 900s had the rear door but were plugged.

You can see them @ the last window of each of these photos. (the HPX livery looked ssoo sharp on these birds)




So odd to see a pre-NextGen 900. I think Mesa is the only company in the US that has them. All the rest didn’t allow it through scope until ~2007 when the NG also came online.

I think American owns half a dozen of the Mesa tails, wonder if they’ll try to shift them to PSA as they’ve done with AA owned 175s at Envoy.
 
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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

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So odd to see a pre-NextGen 900. I think Mesa is the only company in the US that has them. All the rest didn’t allow it through scope until ~2007 when the NG also came online.


I believe there are 39 non-NG CRJ900s with Delta Connection (13 Endeavor Air, which were new to Pinnacle or ComAir) and the balance with Sywest (a mix of former Pinnacle and ComAir, and some delivered new to SkyWest).
 
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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

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GVZZZ wrote:
TonyClifton wrote:
So odd to see a pre-NextGen 900. I think Mesa is the only company in the US that has them. All the rest didn’t allow it through scope until ~2007 when the NG also came online.


I believe there are 39 non-NG CRJ900s with Delta Connection (13 Endeavor Air, which were new to Pinnacle or ComAir) and the balance with Sywest (a mix of former Pinnacle and ComAir, and some delivered new to SkyWest).

Yeah I got my words mixed up. I meant the older style with the -200 style winglets and whatnot. (Exhaust chevrons too, but those went away in the newest -900s). I think Mesa is the only one with those very old school ones.
 
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Re: AA Eagle @ LAX

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alasizon wrote:
ericm2031 wrote:
TonyClifton wrote:
A handful of Mesa 900s have been withdrawn from AA flying in the last few months, allowed in the CPA. Not sure if it was performance metrics or what that allowed their removal, but they have indeed taken a few out of service.


I think as part of an agreement last year I think, if certain performance metrics weren't met, then AA could exercise rights to pull some from the CPA...which they did exercise on some but all of what they could have...but now they are pulling those due to low demand. This should help create more spares to help the operation though, which has been a problem in the past


AA has pulled all of the ones allowed by the performance metrics plus two additional that they are still paying YV for but have advised YV they won't be flying. Due to performance, expect the YV fleet to continue to shrink until all of them can be pulled.

TonyClifton wrote:
There are nine pulled. I believe the 9th is 935LR which hasn't been painted yet as it was in storage in TUS.
N241LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N242LR - now in silver only paint scheme
N939LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N943LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N942LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N944LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N945LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N956LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery


Aren't the black and white birds still flying normally for AA? is there something there that I am missing? I know that UA isn't using them.
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KLMatSJC wrote:
alasizon wrote:
ericm2031 wrote:

I think as part of an agreement last year I think, if certain performance metrics weren't met, then AA could exercise rights to pull some from the CPA...which they did exercise on some but all of what they could have...but now they are pulling those due to low demand. This should help create more spares to help the operation though, which has been a problem in the past


AA has pulled all of the ones allowed by the performance metrics plus two additional that they are still paying YV for but have advised YV they won't be flying. Due to performance, expect the YV fleet to continue to shrink until all of them can be pulled.

TonyClifton wrote:
There are nine pulled. I believe the 9th is 935LR which hasn't been painted yet as it was in storage in TUS.
N241LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N242LR - now in silver only paint scheme
N939LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N943LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N942LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N944LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N945LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery
N956LR - now in generic Mesa black and white livery


Aren't the black and white birds still flying normally for AA? is there something there that I am missing? I know that UA isn't using them.


They are still able to be used in the AA system but haven't been getting regular use compared to how much they were being subbed during March & April. I had heard there were possible revenue penalties for YV if they use the black and white tails (i.e. only 66% of the CPA rate for using a black & white tail if due to MX) which would explain their lesser use.

All nine of the aircraft though aren't being paid for by AA so YV is on the hook for those leases (although I believe they outright own 942 and 956).
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alasizon wrote:
KLMatSJC wrote:
alasizon wrote:

AA has pulled all of the ones allowed by the performance metrics plus two additional that they are still paying YV for but have advised YV they won't be flying. Due to performance, expect the YV fleet to continue to shrink until all of them can be pulled.



Aren't the black and white birds still flying normally for AA? is there something there that I am missing? I know that UA isn't using them.


They are still able to be used in the AA system but haven't been getting regular use compared to how much they were being subbed during March & April. I had heard there were possible revenue penalties for YV if they use the black and white tails (i.e. only 66% of the CPA rate for using a black & white tail if due to MX) which would explain their lesser use.

All nine of the aircraft though aren't being paid for by AA so YV is on the hook for those leases (although I believe they outright own 942 and 956).

I wonder if the drawdown was for MAX scope compliance from the last year. If they had some CPA terms allowing them to be pulled, might have been the easiest way to comply.
 
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TonyClifton wrote:
alasizon wrote:
KLMatSJC wrote:

Aren't the black and white birds still flying normally for AA? is there something there that I am missing? I know that UA isn't using them.


They are still able to be used in the AA system but haven't been getting regular use compared to how much they were being subbed during March & April. I had heard there were possible revenue penalties for YV if they use the black and white tails (i.e. only 66% of the CPA rate for using a black & white tail if due to MX) which would explain their lesser use.

All nine of the aircraft though aren't being paid for by AA so YV is on the hook for those leases (although I believe they outright own 942 and 956).

I wonder if the drawdown was for MAX scope compliance from the last year. If they had some CPA terms allowing them to be pulled, might have been the easiest way to comply.


The drawdown of the original nine were due to YV performance and to make room for additional E175s; the MAX scope compliance was achieved by parking some E140s.
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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:47 am

usxguy wrote:
I think all the original Freedom Air CRJ 900s had the rear door but were plugged.

You can see them @ the last window of each of these photos. (the HPX livery looked ssoo sharp on these birds)





Was there a galley in the back originally?
 
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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:09 am

Ionosphere wrote:
usxguy wrote:
I think all the original Freedom Air CRJ 900s had the rear door but were plugged.

You can see them @ the last window of each of these photos. (the HPX livery looked ssoo sharp on these birds)





Was there a galley in the back originally?


Never on the Mesa birds but other carriers did select that option.
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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:40 pm

I saw a couple of E140s still with the old Eagle paint scheme yesterday at DFW. How many of those are still around?
 
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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:34 pm

Miamiairport wrote:
I saw a couple of E140s still with the old Eagle paint scheme yesterday at DFW. How many of those are still around?

I’m showing two active E140s in the white legacy livery; N841AE and N842AE.
 
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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:45 pm

jgcotter wrote:
Miamiairport wrote:
I saw a couple of E140s still with the old Eagle paint scheme yesterday at DFW. How many of those are still around?

I’m showing two active E140s in the white legacy livery; N841AE and N842AE.

N805AE was spotted by MLIAA in the legacy white livery a few weeks ago.
 
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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:57 pm

APC PSA board saying that the PSA bases in Knoxville and Norfolk are closing.
Been looking for confirmation, but no luck yet. Anyone have confirmation?
 
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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:10 am

FlyingElvii wrote:
APC PSA board saying that the PSA bases in Knoxville and Norfolk are closing.
Been looking for confirmation, but no luck yet. Anyone have confirmation?


This is true, I can confirm this. Closing as of Oct 1st, at least looking at 250 Captains being downgraded and furloughing 600 pilots.
 
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Re: American Eagle News and Discussion Thread

Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:05 pm

bigb wrote:
FlyingElvii wrote:
APC PSA board saying that the PSA bases in Knoxville and Norfolk are closing.
Been looking for confirmation, but no luck yet. Anyone have confirmation?


This is true, I can confirm this. Closing as of Oct 1st, at least looking at 250 Captains being downgraded and furloughing 600 pilots.

Ugh...
600 out of 2500-ish?? How deep does the seniority cut, I wonder?
 
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600 out of 2100 pilots, it’s really deep (late 2018 hires). Junior Captain is projected to be mid 2017 hire. Projecting about 1500 pilots on property after this cut.

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Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos