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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:45 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
jnev3289 wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
Whispers of used A330's.

That'll be the day :lol: They don't even overnight crew right now


They are testing overnights right now.


From a crew's perspective, is this is a bad thing? To be in your own bed every night and work in the airline industry.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:07 pm

Interesting to see G4 order new A320s (most likely good end of line CEO deals ala Delta) which goes out outside of the norm. The new aircraft will probably have some of the higher utilization flights to pay their way. On the flip side, it will be a long time before they need costly heavy maintenance. Interesting decision regarding buying used or new, and the CAPEX hit.

On a side note, I flew G4 for the first time and I was apprehensive considering some of the bad stories in the news and comments here on Anet. But I get their sales shtick. You conform to them as in flying on the days they fly, keep in mind you get what your pay for and stick to their carry on sizes. And you know what, the experience is not much different from flying the majors. I sat next to a window, I flew on a clean Mad Dog, and the crew was professional. And SFB, Wow, much more calmer experience than the madhouse called MCO.

Its funny because in a way G4 reminds of SWA back in the 70s and 80s flying to secondary airports that were less crowded.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:12 am

Allegiant is teasing a BIG Cyber Monday announcement. Might just be a sale but it seems like something more. They just extended their schedule so maybe new route announcements? Any thoughts?

https://twitter.com/allegiant/status/934859488431132672
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:27 am

Jshank83 wrote:
Allegiant is teasing a BIG Cyber Monday announcement. Might just be a sale but it seems like something more. They just extended their schedule so maybe new route announcements? Any thoughts?

https://twitter.com/allegiant/status/934859488431132672

They may be announcing the big MYR Airport expansion (25+ airports) tomorrow and then say book now for a very low price to paradise.

The MYR Expansion has been looked at by 2 companies but still unsure which one it is.. This is all just my opinion
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:47 am

Balloonchaser wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
Allegiant is teasing a BIG Cyber Monday announcement. Might just be a sale but it seems like something more. They just extended their schedule so maybe new route announcements? Any thoughts?

https://twitter.com/allegiant/status/934859488431132672

They may be announcing the big MYR Airport expansion (25+ airports) tomorrow and then say book now for a very low price to paradise.

The MYR Expansion has been looked at by 2 companies but still unsure which one it is.. This is all just my opinion


Can you elaborate. MYR is having a big expansion but we don't know what airline is doing it? or what do you mean by 2 companies.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:56 am

Jshank83 wrote:
Allegiant is teasing a BIG Cyber Monday announcement. Might just be a sale but it seems like something more. They just extended their schedule so maybe new route announcements? Any thoughts?

https://twitter.com/allegiant/status/934859488431132672


We're seeing an increase in frequency at FAT with the schedule extension and move to all 319's. Per the website, 2X to LAS daily, except Tue/Wed/Sat, when it's just a single flight a day. Similar hike up the road at SCK.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:49 am

whatusaid wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
Allegiant is teasing a BIG Cyber Monday announcement. Might just be a sale but it seems like something more. They just extended their schedule so maybe new route announcements? Any thoughts?

https://twitter.com/allegiant/status/934859488431132672


We're seeing an increase in frequency at FAT with the schedule extension and move to all 319's. Per the website, 2X to LAS daily, except Tue/Wed/Sat, when it's just a single flight a day. Similar hike up the road at SCK.


Shame there will be no more MD-80's in Fresno.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:02 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
Allegiant is teasing a BIG Cyber Monday announcement. Might just be a sale but it seems like something more. They just extended their schedule so maybe new route announcements? Any thoughts?

https://twitter.com/allegiant/status/934859488431132672


"Happy Cyber Monday! Today only, you can save up to 40% off all our nonstop flights and get your third night FREE at select hotels! So what are you waiting for? Hurry over to our site and take advantage of these amazing deals!"
https://twitter.com/Allegiant/status/935085844653895680
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:29 pm

WN732 wrote:
whatusaid wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
Allegiant is teasing a BIG Cyber Monday announcement. Might just be a sale but it seems like something more. They just extended their schedule so maybe new route announcements? Any thoughts?

https://twitter.com/allegiant/status/934859488431132672


We're seeing an increase in frequency at FAT with the schedule extension and move to all 319's. Per the website, 2X to LAS daily, except Tue/Wed/Sat, when it's just a single flight a day. Similar hike up the road at SCK.


Shame there will be no more MD-80's in Fresno.


I’m sure everyone will miss the random engine failures and ensuing 6+ hour delays, but they’ll get over it! 8-)
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:45 pm

I expect to see some more expansion in Flint now that Southwest has pulled the plug there.
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:38 pm

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As of last Tuesday PIE is all Airbus. As far as I know they are planning some sort of international out of here next year to presumably SJU, Mexico, or the Caribbean somewhere.


Also in the works SBN-CUN
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:27 am

Now that Monarch is gone there's a good number of CFM A320s they could get their hands on.
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:04 am

I will be interested to see if anything is announced tomorrow, Tuesday seems to be their favorite day for new routes.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:21 am

On an pilot forum Allegiant has stopped new pilot classes as they concentrate on getting MD80 pilots trained for A320s. Do not see how Allegiant can announce much expansion unless they have a lot slack in the off season to utilize their aircraft more.
 
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Allegiant Air to phase out last MD80 November 2018

Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:35 pm

Link/Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... er-443788/



"The date, shared by the Las Vegas-based carrier's chief executive Maurice Gallagher at an investor day today, comes as Allegiant prepares to add 30 A320 family aircraft next year, an updated fleet plan shows."

"Allegiant's fleet of MD-80s has an average age of 27.8 years, Flight Fleets Analyzer shows. This compares to an average age of just 12.3 years for both its A319 and A320 fleets."

"During 2018, Allegiant will remove 37 MD-80s while adding 10 A319s and 20 A320s, according to the plan."

Seeing that G4 operates it's pre- year 2000 vintage A32X fleet with a 177 pax version and
year 2000+ in a 186 version, which routes will see the A319s with 156 seats and which routes
will see the 186 seat A320s, and which cities get the 177 seat A320s
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:17 am

The presentation from yesterday's Investor Day can be read at:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/ ... 7final.htm

It focuses on major activities such as the fleet change, improving operational performance, Sunseeker resort, etc.

A couple of quick things I noted while skimming it tonight (I'll read more detail with the numbers this weekend but others may see things I don't):
  • 2/3 of management in maintenance, stations, procurement, and OCC have been changed/realigned
  • Focusing on sourcing more A320 aircraft aged 9 to 17 years old
  • 82 aircraft in fleet 2018YE; 100 aircraft 2019YE; 110 aircraft 2020YE
  • MD utilization about 5 block hours/day; Airbus utilization about 7 block hours/day
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Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:03 pm

Allegiant has scheduled their last MD80 revenue flight for November 25th 2018.
 
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Re: Allegiant Air to phase out last MD80 November 2018

Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:07 pm

AirbusMDCFAN wrote:
Link/Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... er-443788/



"The date, shared by the Las Vegas-based carrier's chief executive Maurice Gallagher at an investor day today, comes as Allegiant prepares to add 30 A320 family aircraft next year, an updated fleet plan shows."

"Allegiant's fleet of MD-80s has an average age of 27.8 years, Flight Fleets Analyzer shows. This compares to an average age of just 12.3 years for both its A319 and A320 fleets."

"During 2018, Allegiant will remove 37 MD-80s while adding 10 A319s and 20 A320s, according to the plan."

Seeing that G4 operates it's pre- year 2000 vintage A32X fleet with a 177 pax version and
year 2000+ in a 186 version, which routes will see the A319s with 156 seats and which routes
will see the 186 seat A320s, and which cities get the 177 seat A320s


SBN will have the 156 seat A319 to Mesa and I assume the 177 seat A320's to the other cities and the 186 passenger A320 to SFB during Spring Break.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:03 pm

For those interested, a Vegas TV station last night did a short report from inside Allegiant's Operations Control Center. The video provides a quick look around the operation.
http://news3lv.com/news/local/the-heart ... rol-center
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:18 pm

FATFlyer wrote:
The presentation from yesterday's Investor Day can be read at:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/ ... 7final.htm

It focuses on major activities such as the fleet change, improving operational performance, Sunseeker resort, etc.

A couple of quick things I noted while skimming it tonight (I'll read more detail with the numbers this weekend but others may see things I don't):
  • 2/3 of management in maintenance, stations, procurement, and OCC have been changed/realigned
  • Focusing on sourcing more A320 aircraft aged 9 to 17 years old
  • 82 aircraft in fleet 2018YE; 100 aircraft 2019YE; 110 aircraft 2020YE
  • MD utilization about 5 block hours/day; Airbus utilization about 7 block hours/day


How many days a week at 7 hours a day?
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:48 pm

In the new schedule, there seem to be quite a few G4 routes are increasing frequency. I am sure they will continue to increase fleet utilization as they phase out the MD-80's and introduce newer A320 aircraft. They are also trimming quite a few underperforming routes over the Winter and Spring, so there should still be room for Summer expansion and intl flying.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:58 pm

FATFlyer wrote:
For those interested, a Vegas TV station last night did a short report from inside Allegiant's Operations Control Center. The video provides a quick look around the operation.
http://news3lv.com/news/local/the-heart ... rol-center


From the article-
“It downloads 2,700 different items and with the help of Airbus, it can tell us that down the road the next couple days, weeks, or months, that part needs to be replaced,” Wuerger say"

Going all A320 with this capability will definitely help with mx and reliability.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:02 pm

cvgComair wrote:
In the new schedule, there seem to be quite a few G4 routes are increasing frequency. I am sure they will continue to increase fleet utilization as they phase out the MD-80's and introduce newer A320 aircraft. They are also trimming quite a few underperforming routes over the Winter and Spring, so there should still be room for Summer expansion and intl flying.


Here is some of the "trimming" they have done in the past few months
This week
G4 AZA-BIS JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.1
G4 AZA-GFK MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2 JUL 0.3>0.1 AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 BIS-LAS JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.6>0.1
G4 BLI-PSP JUN 0.5>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.1
G4 CVG-EWR JAN 0.6>0.5 AUG 0.7>0.3
G4 FAR-LAS MAY 0.5>0.4 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.6>0.1
G4 FLL-LCK JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.1
G4 FNT-PGD JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.1
G4 GRR-PGD JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.1
G4 IAG-PGD MAY 0.5>0.4 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.6>0.1
G4 LAS-OGD JAN 0.3>0.0 FEB 0.3>0.1 MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAX-MFE MAY 0.3>0.1 AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 OGS-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1 JUN 0.3>0.2 AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PGD-PSM JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.6>0.1
G4 PGD-RDU JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.1
G4 SDF-SFB JUN 0.6>0.4 JUL 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.5>0.1
G4 SFB-SJU MAY 0.3>0.4 JUN 0.3>0.6 JUL 0.3>0.5

11/19/17
G4 CVG-SJU JAN 0.1>0 FEB 0.1>0 MAR 0.2>0 APR 0.1>0 MAY 0.1>0 JUN 0.2>0 JUL 0.1>0
G4 RDU-SJU DEC 0.2>0 JAN 0.3>0 FEB 0.3>0 MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0
*G4 FNT-PIE JUL 0.6>0.4
*G4 FNT-SFB JAN 0.6>0.4
G4 LCK-PIE MAY 0.8>0.5 JUN 0.9>0.6 JUL 0.8>0.6

10/29/17
G4 LAX-MFE JAN 0.3>0.0 FEB 0.3>0.2

10/22/17
G4 ABE-FLL MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 ABE-SFB MAR 1.0>1.7
G4 ATW-AZA MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 ATW-PIE MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 AVL-FLL MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 1.0>0.7
G4 AZA-BIS APR 0.7>0.5 MAY 0.7>0.3 JUN 0.7>0.3
G4 AZA-FAR MAY 0.7>0.4 JUN 0.7>0.4
G4 AZA-GFK MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 AZA-IND APR 0.3>0.0
G4 AZA-LAS JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 AZA-MCI APR 0.3>0.0
G4 AZA-MKE APR 0.3>0.0
G4 AZA-MLI MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 AZA-MOT MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 AZA-OAK JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 AZA-OMA APR 0.3>0.0
G4 AZA-PIE APR 0.3>0.0
G4 AZA-RAP MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 AZA-SDF MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 AZA-STC MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 BGR-PIE MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 BGR-SFB MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 BIS-SFB MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 BLI-LAS MAR 1.7>3 APR 1.8>3
G4 BLI-PSP MAY 0.5>0.4
G4 CID-PGD MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 CID-SFB APR 0.4>0.3 MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 DSM-PGD MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 DSM-SFB JUN 0.6>0.4
G4 ELM-PIE MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 ELM-SFB MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 FAR-SFB APR 0.3>0.0
G4 FLL-GRR APR 0.3>0.1
G4 FNT-SFB MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3
G4 FSD-PIE MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 FWA-PIE JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 GPT-SFB MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 GRR-PGD MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3
G4 GRR-SFB MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 1.0>0.7
G4 IND-PIE MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 1.0>0.7
G4 LAS-SMX JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 LAX-MFE MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 LAX-SGF MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 LCK-PIE MAR 0.3>1.0
G4 LEX-PGD MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3
G4 MCI-PGD JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 MKE-SFB MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 MLI-PIE MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 OGS-SFB MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 OMA-PGD APR 0.3>0.1
G4 OMA-PIE MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 PBG-PIE MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 PBG-SFB MAR 0.3>1.1
G4 PGD-PIA MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 PGD-RFD MAY 0.6>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3
G4 PGD-SPI MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 PGD-STC APR 0.3>0.0
G4 PGD-TOL MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 PGD-TYS APR 0.6>0.4 MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3
G4 PIA-SFB MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 PIE-SBN MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
G4 RFD-SFB MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 SBN-SFB MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 SFB-SWF MAY 0.3>0.2 JUN 0.3>0.2
*G4 PIT-SJU JAN 0.1>0 FEB 0.1>0 MAR 0.2>0 APR 0.1>0 MAY 0.1>0 JUN 0.2>0 JUL 0.1>0

Furthermore, a lot of these cuts were on really long routes, so even with some of the additional frequencies this summer, I think there are at least a few new routes to be announced in the near future
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:14 pm

Does anyone think or know if G4 will return to GYY?
Living in LA, ORD/MDW will always be home!
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:21 pm

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Does anyone think or know if G4 will return to GYY?

My guess is probably not, it looks like G4 is starting to enter larger markets (while exiting many smaller markets). The investor's day presentation included above seems to suggest that connecting medium/large airports is the future of their growth. Recently, they have been adding flights to the main airport of a city instead of finding a smaller alternative like Gary. I actually would not be surprised if they add service at MDW/ORD in the future (thinking CHI-CVG is pretty inevitable).
 
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Re: Allegiant Air to phase out last MD80 November 2018

Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:26 pm

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Link/Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... er-443788/



"The date, shared by the Las Vegas-based carrier's chief executive Maurice Gallagher at an investor day today, comes as Allegiant prepares to add 30 A320 family aircraft next year, an updated fleet plan shows."

"Allegiant's fleet of MD-80s has an average age of 27.8 years, Flight Fleets Analyzer shows. This compares to an average age of just 12.3 years for both its A319 and A320 fleets."

"During 2018, Allegiant will remove 37 MD-80s while adding 10 A319s and 20 A320s, according to the plan."

Seeing that G4 operates it's pre- year 2000 vintage A32X fleet with a 177 pax version and
year 2000+ in a 186 version, which routes will see the A319s with 156 seats and which routes
will see the 186 seat A320s, and which cities get the 177 seat A320s

I find it most interesting the quick MD-80 retirement. That makes me wonder how G4's MD-80 part status is standing. Everything I'm hearing is that AA extending MD-80 utilization has kept their parts, which *everyone* expected to become available by now, in AA warehouses. The lack of MD-80/JT8D parts is impacting MD-80 utilization from everything I'm seeing.

FATFlyer wrote:
The presentation from yesterday's Investor Day can be read at:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/ ... 7final.htm

It focuses on major activities such as the fleet change, improving operational performance, Sunseeker resort, etc.

A couple of quick things I noted while skimming it tonight (I'll read more detail with the numbers this weekend but others may see things I don't):
  • 2/3 of management in maintenance, stations, procurement, and OCC have been changed/realigned
  • Focusing on sourcing more A320 aircraft aged 9 to 17 years old
  • 82 aircraft in fleet 2018YE; 100 aircraft 2019YE; 110 aircraft 2020YE
  • MD utilization about 5 block hours/day; Airbus utilization about 7 block hours/day

82 aircraft YE2018 is a small downsizing, with quick return and growth in 2019.
I wonder if this means a year end (slow season) MD-80 quick retirement?

The utilization difference is fascinating. The new A320s should increase A320 utilization. The implications of higher utilization will allow growth.

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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:27 pm

Just on Jan 1st, G4 is eliminating or severely reducing flights to CPR, OGD, AVP, YNG, SPI, and TTN. This is in addition to about half-dozen smaller markets cut over the last year or so. These reductions coupled with the frequency cuts Midwestindy put above should free up aircraft for expansion out of midsized markets.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:49 pm

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The presentation from yesterday's Investor Day can be read at:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/ ... 7final.htm

Fascinating read. I'll focus on slide 49. The increased MD-80 maintenance costs are ending the types usability.
The type currently only costs $2 more per passenger than the A319 (down from, IIRC, $4 more two years ago when fuel was pricier). The reason the cost per passenger didn't drop more is an increase in maintenance costs. If Allegiant wasn't retiring MD-80s for access to parts, it would be even worse at this stage.

I'd love to see Allegiant's estimated costs for an A320NEO. I'm sure they've done the numbers (for a small subfleet). I'd like to see the numbers into why they haven't bought the NEO. I personally think they would save money on a small subfleet. With the new CEO purchases, I would limit to no more than 9 to 12 NEOs at this time.

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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:56 pm

william wrote:
FATFlyer wrote:
For those interested, a Vegas TV station last night did a short report from inside Allegiant's Operations Control Center. The video provides a quick look around the operation.
http://news3lv.com/news/local/the-heart ... rol-center


From the article-
“It downloads 2,700 different items and with the help of Airbus, it can tell us that down the road the next couple days, weeks, or months, that part needs to be replaced,” Wuerger say"

Going all A320 with this capability will definitely help with mx and reliability.

Not only will going to a proper forecasting for MX cut maintenance costs and improve reliability, it will improve:
1. Number of backup aircraft required will be reduced (cutting the cost of the Airbus fleet per month as fewer spare aircraft).
2. Increase available utilization (Airbus fleet at 7 hours versus MD-80 at 5). I personally think they will find ways to increase Airbus utilization slightly over the next 3 years (maybe up to 8 with consideration of their preference to buy 15 to 17 year old aircraft, at least my interpretation of the presentation).
3. Reduce part inventory (with good prediction, paying more for new parts on short delivery becomes more economical, although I expect Allegiant to buy CFM powered Airbus aircraft for parts on an opportunity basis).

Allegiant is growing up as an airline. They will be interesting to watch. I wonder when their utilization will be high enough to buy new again. (Note: I am of the opinion CFM/Airbus gave them one incredible deal on the 12 new A320s).

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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:57 pm

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timberwolf24 wrote:
Does anyone think or know if G4 will return to GYY?

My guess is probably not, it looks like G4 is starting to enter larger markets (while exiting many smaller markets). The investor's day presentation included above seems to suggest that connecting medium/large airports is the future of their growth. Recently, they have been adding flights to the main airport of a city instead of finding a smaller alternative like Gary. I actually would not be surprised if they add service at MDW/ORD in the future (thinking CHI-CVG is pretty inevitable).


I assume this is what you are referring to

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It would be nice if they flew into Chicago (outside of MKE, RFD), Dallas, Atlanta, Houston, Seattle (outside of BLI), e.t.c I think there is a market for that type of flying even with fiercer competition from NK, F9, WN, e.t.c
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:47 pm

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william wrote:
FATFlyer wrote:
For those interested, a Vegas TV station last night did a short report from inside Allegiant's Operations Control Center. The video provides a quick look around the operation.
http://news3lv.com/news/local/the-heart ... rol-center


From the article-
“It downloads 2,700 different items and with the help of Airbus, it can tell us that down the road the next couple days, weeks, or months, that part needs to be replaced,” Wuerger say"

Going all A320 with this capability will definitely help with mx and reliability.

Not only will going to a proper forecasting for MX cut maintenance costs and improve reliability, it will improve:
1. Number of backup aircraft required will be reduced (cutting the cost of the Airbus fleet per month as fewer spare aircraft).
2. Increase available utilization (Airbus fleet at 7 hours versus MD-80 at 5). I personally think they will find ways to increase Airbus utilization slightly over the next 3 years (maybe up to 8 with consideration of their preference to buy 15 to 17 year old aircraft, at least my interpretation of the presentation).
3. Reduce part inventory (with good prediction, paying more for new parts on short delivery becomes more economical, although I expect Allegiant to buy CFM powered Airbus aircraft for parts on an opportunity basis).

Allegiant is growing up as an airline. They will be interesting to watch. I wonder when their utilization will be high enough to buy new again. (Note: I am of the opinion CFM/Airbus gave them one incredible deal on the 12 new A320s).

Lightsaber


Oh I agree they must have gotten an awesome deal, something along the lines what Boeing offered UA for 737-700 type of deal. Why else would a low utilization carrier that shops at the used cars Certified Pre Owns section walk over to the new cars and drive out in one if the deal wasn't awesome.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:58 pm

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Just on Jan 1st, G4 is eliminating or severely reducing flights to CPR, OGD, AVP, YNG, SPI, and TTN. This is in addition to about half-dozen smaller markets cut over the last year or so. These reductions coupled with the frequency cuts Midwestindy put above should free up aircraft for expansion out of midsized markets.


But are not the reductions just seasonal?

Allegiant's secondary airports reminds me of SWA back in the day when that was their domain. I don't see that changing, flying to places like Sandford, and St Pete and that suburb in Phoenix has really worked for them. What I can see is Allegiant connecting the dots like they are doing in Ausitn, flying not only to their strong holds in Vegas and Sanford but to other locations too. See Cincinnati as another example. Then beyond connecting dots slowly increasing frequency.

Now this will get the attention of Spirit and Frontier, but I am amazed at how Allegiant ( and their business plan) can be even competing in the same markets as the other ULCC.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:06 pm

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The 350 number near the end of the cone, where would such aircraft come from? US3 majors are going to fly theirs till the wheels come off. I am thinking of the Asian carriers with their massive NEO orders, their CEOs should be more than 350 aircraft soon on the market as leases come up. Then again, would not Delta and UA be interested in the same type and age aircraft since the price is apparently right?
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:06 pm

cvgComair wrote:
timberwolf24 wrote:
Does anyone think or know if G4 will return to GYY?

My guess is probably not, it looks like G4 is starting to enter larger markets (while exiting many smaller markets). The investor's day presentation included above seems to suggest that connecting medium/large airports is the future of their growth. Recently, they have been adding flights to the main airport of a city instead of finding a smaller alternative like Gary. I actually would not be surprised if they add service at MDW/ORD in the future (thinking CHI-CVG is pretty inevitable).

I agree. I have felt that their next domestic focus city is likely Chicago. Probably ORD unless they can get their hands on a gate at MDW.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:24 pm

I'd love for them to open up some west coast routes out of MKE.

LAX is extremely underserved and we do not have any service to the bay area. I think they could do quite well filing those holes, however that isn't like Allegiant.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:31 pm

Could they be decreasing routes so they can have a big expansion (get the media attention like Southwest, Frontier and the Core airlines have done?!?)

Still waiting for KISP to come into the picture :P
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:09 pm

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I'd love for them to open up some west coast routes out of MKE.

LAX is extremely underserved and we do not have any service to the bay area. I think they could do quite well filing those holes, however that isn't like Allegiant.


When they do chose to expand at MKE, expect to see JAX, MYR, SAV, and maybe MSY, AUS, or LAS

OAK-MKE won't happen anytime soon unless there are subsidies, for one G4 only has one OAK route east of the rockies. Either way though, MKE does have service to the bay area through the seasonal WN flight to SFO.

LAX-MKE is more likely since there is very little competition on that route, but I still think G4 will wait a few years before adding that route, considering they just began service.

G4 isn't big on transcon routes, LAX/OAK/SAN for the most part serve cities out west, just like SFB/PIE/PGD mostly serve destinations out east. There are a few exceptions to this rule (CID, ATW, e.t.c), but for the most part unless there is a G4 A/C or MX base that is the rule of thumb.
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:37 am

So the final day is November 25 of next year for the MD-80. By any chance anyone know what the route will be for the final trip?
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:29 am

How much money is saved by not having crew overnight in a hotel? Go to a pilot forum and that plus the new contract is one of the main reasons pilots are trying to get on with Allegiant. To sleep in one's own bed every night.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:48 am

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Still waiting for KISP to come into the picture :P

They literally just tried and left ISP a year ago. Be glad you have F9, G4 won't be back in the foreseeable future.
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:31 am

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Oh I agree they must have gotten an awesome deal, something along the lines what Boeing offered UA for 737-700 type of deal. Why else would a low utilization carrier that shops at the used cars Certified Pre Owns section walk over to the new cars and drive out in one if the deal wasn't awesome.

Take your analogy one step further, why negotiating on a used vehicle, the new salespeople walked over, as a team, as offered a fleet discount that was too good to turn down.

For why would they be looking, as per the presentation, for older A320s, mostly 15 to 17 years old airframes if I interpret the presentation correctly; so it must have been a one time deal. William in post #184 posts the slide I'm talking about (#40). It looks like G4 is looking for bargains (low utilization) over efficiency&maintenance costs per flight hour.

For the record, I think G4 could fly enough routes intensely enough to benefit from NEOs (typically, new aircraft cost less at either 5 or 6 cycles per day or 8 to 9.5 hours per day of utilization. I think a few Allegiant lines could be tweaked to enough aircraft hours to justify buying a sub-fleet of NEOs. Note: I'm not proposing re-doing their fascinating model for most of their aircraft. I'm proposing room for 18 to 30 NEOs flown intensely their first 12 years of ownership at which point they would be rolled into the typical Allegiant utilization.

It will be interesting to see the transition. Fewer planes, but with higher A320 utilization, about the same crew utilization.

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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:37 pm

Here is a new interview with Allegiant's Director of Planning about how they select routes.
http://skift.com/2017/12/04/allegiant-air-agonizes-over-new-routes-for-months-or-even-years/

A few quick quotes, but the entire interview is a good read for those with ideas about where G4 "should" fly next:
Schilling-Gonzales: [Now] we extend the schedule six to nine months in advance [and say, ] this is the aircraft it’s going to be forever. [In the future,] we can change it a lot closer in to a given flight. Our 319s have 156 seats, and the 320s have 186. If it’s a really peak weekend for a certain city, it might make sense to throw the extra seats on it that weekend versus a different weekend.

Schilling-Gonzales: [There are] basic concerns with coast-to-coast flights with a ULCC, [because] the network carriers have a ton of hubs throughout the country. If we wanted to fly something like Las Vegas or Los Angeles to Bangor, Maine, we’ve got the aircraft that can do it. But commercially it still might not make sense from a revenue perspective because if you’re flying that, you could also stop in St. Louis, Chicago, Cincinnati, Philly, JFK, Charlotte, maybe even up to Detroit. There are so many different options for connecting flights that we would have to get such a premium on the non-stop.

Schilling-Gonzales: We do run into a lot of, ‘Oh, well Allegiant in the past has always gone to small cities and we’re a small city and Allegiant’s not here yet so they should be here because they’re our only option.’ I feel for a lot of the communities like that but from the airline perspective we’ve only got a limited fleet. We’ve only got limited crews. How do we make the most money for our shareholders and what’s the best use of all these aircraft? It might not be every small Midwestern town. Maybe we have to focus on a couple of them.

Schilling-Gonzales: I’ve got a roughly five-year plan of several hundred routes that we could be running once international is up and going. The routes aren’t the issue, it’s the infrastructure and updating our systems to handle it.
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:59 pm

When is the last Allegiant MD-80 flight and what is the flight number and registration?

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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:29 pm

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When is the last Allegiant MD-80 flight and what is the flight number and registration?

-Erik

As posted in this thread a couple of times:
Northwest1988 wrote:
So the final day is November 25 of next year for the MD-80. By any chance anyone know what the route will be for the final trip?

freakyrat wrote:
Allegiant has scheduled their last MD80 revenue flight for November 25th 2018.


The actual last flight has not been revealed yet. But the last MD base will be SFB so likely a flight to/from there.

I thought it would be a nice ending for the MDs if they did a last one-off FAT-LAS flight on a MD. That was Allegiant's original route using the DC-9. But that route is unlikely to be the last flight.
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:50 pm

Since Allegiant flies to many secondary airports where at times they are the only commercial operator. How does deicing gets handled at such airports?
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:58 pm

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Since Allegiant flies to many secondary airports where at times they are the only commercial operator. How does deicing gets handled at such airports?


Alot of FBO's have deice capability for bizjets.
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:37 am

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I'd love for them to open up some west coast routes out of MKE.

I'm really surprised LAS wasn't among the initial routes.
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:24 pm

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Since Allegiant flies to many secondary airports where at times they are the only commercial operator. How does deicing gets handled at such airports?


And unfortunately some flights get cancelled.
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:32 am

Allegiant MD-80 N403NV just landed in VCV for retirement. 35 MD-80s on property now at Allegiant.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N403NV
 
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Re: What's next for Allegiant?

Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:20 am

jgcotter wrote:
Allegiant MD-80 N403NV just landed in VCV for retirement. 35 MD-80s on property now at Allegiant.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N403NV


I wander what it’s future,coke cans?

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