jbs2886 wrote:commavia wrote:jbs2886 wrote:You literally just picked AA hubs as indicative of why AA is better. If we took DL hubs, I'm sure the reverse would be true. I'm an AA flyer, but lets be honest, DL has AA beat in A LOT of markets.
The above is unquestionably true, but objectively, it's also true that AA and AA partners hubs do, in fact, happen to be some of the largest and most important business markets in the U.S. and globally. This is a similar phenomenon to the discussion going on about BOS - AA's overall network approach in these markets, in both of which AA is not the leading carrier, is obviously far less "flashy" and exciting than Delta. Frankly, I think that lack of "flash" obscures the competitive weapons AA can, and does, wield in these markets.
Will AA ever be larger than Delta or United in NYC? No, I think that's highly doubtful at this point - for a variety of commercial and regulatory reasons. But AA is specifically targeting NYC customers who value not just its nonstops to 60+ destinations in the U.S. and internationally, and particularly those who value schedule flexibility in key business markets like ATL, BOS, CLT, ORD, DFW, LHR, LAX, BNA, PIT, RDU, SFO, YYZ, WAS, etc. And do enough of these customers exist to sustain AA's ~300 daily departures, and its premium product offerings like select 3-class transcons and international, Flagship First Dining, etc.? Yes, I think so.
Agree completely. AA doesn't need to be the leading carrier in NYC or lead UA/DL in a number of markets. It can (and is) successful in particular markets that are important to its flyers, that's all that matters. We can go on at length (like this thread) about AA in NYC, but AA will still be a strong player in NYC, just not the largest.
And grant it they could be a or the leading carrier in NYC, if they could rewrite history I'm sure they would take it(be a leading carrier in NYC), but that boat has sailed.
Until we have a down turn and or something big that changes the board its kinda written in stone for now. And I agree its not the end of the world with the mega PHL hub close by.