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Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela ceases flight operations

Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:11 pm

https://maduradas.com/llego-la-hora-aer ... -tecnicos/

Aeropostal lost insurance cover for its only remaining operational MD-82, so cancels all flights with immediate effect. Flights operated at the end were CCS-PMV (Porlamar, Isla Margarita), CCS-MAR, MAR-PTY. All that remains from now on of an airline with almost 90 years of history is its technical support division. Sad. Once again: Bravo, Maduro!!

Also, Santa Barbara, or SBAirlines, ceases its CCS-PTY flights from August 29th. This flight was operated by sister airline Aserca for the last 4 weeks. SBArlines will only fly CCS-MIA when this cancellation takes effect.

Panama will require tourist visas for Venezuelan citizens wishing to visit, starting October 1st. Not sure if this has anything to do with these two cancellations behind the scenes, but I personally doubt it. It could however have to do with the rumours a few weeks back about CM quitting its Venezuelan routes. I'm sure CM would have been informed underhand by the Panamanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs about these plans. We will see if this will make those rumours come true or not. I guess most PAX on CM out of Venezuela are transfering in PTY anyway, and I guess those wouldn't need a visa.
 
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Re: Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela ceases flight operations

Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:40 pm

https://dolartoday.com/vicecanciller-de ... -esa-visa/

Confirmed that Venezuelans do not need the new visa in order to transit at PTY.
 
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Re: Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela ceases flight operations

Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:52 am

MalevTU134 wrote:
https://maduradas.com/llego-la-hora-aeropostal-cerraria-sus-operaciones-en-venezuela-solo-ofrecera-servicios-tecnicos/

Aeropostal lost insurance cover for its only remaining operational MD-82, so cancels all flights with immediate effect. Flights operated at the end were CCS-PMV (Porlamar, Isla Margarita), CCS-MAR, MAR-PTY. All that remains from now on of an airline with almost 90 years of history is its technical support division. Sad. Once again: Bravo, Maduro!!

Also, Santa Barbara, or SBAirlines, ceases its CCS-PTY flights from August 29th. This flight was operated by sister airline Aserca for the last 4 weeks. SBArlines will only fly CCS-MIA when this cancellation takes effect.

Panama will require tourist visas for Venezuelan citizens wishing to visit, starting October 1st. Not sure if this has anything to do with these two cancellations behind the scenes, but I personally doubt it. It could however have to do with the rumours a few weeks back about CM quitting its Venezuelan routes. I'm sure CM would have been informed underhand by the Panamanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs about these plans. We will see if this will make those rumours come true or not. I guess most PAX on CM out of Venezuela are transfering in PTY anyway, and I guess those wouldn't need a visa.


Not surprising at all re: Venezuelan airlines. In fact, it is surprising they made it this far.

I guess Panama is preparing itself for a potential juggernaut of refugees once Maduro, Delsy, Cabello, Tarek et al lose all pretenses and Venezuela joins the Cuba sisterhood. I reckon a humanitarian crisis could be around the corner. My heart aches for Venezuela.

Incidentally, read today on El Pais/Madrid and Clarin/Buenos Aires that Maduro announced controls to social media, aka censure. What is the take on that from Venezuela? Or just another item checked on the descent to full dictatorship?
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Re: Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela ceases flight operations

Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:10 am

dcajet wrote:
MalevTU134 wrote:
https://maduradas.com/llego-la-hora-aeropostal-cerraria-sus-operaciones-en-venezuela-solo-ofrecera-servicios-tecnicos/

Aeropostal lost insurance cover for its only remaining operational MD-82, so cancels all flights with immediate effect. Flights operated at the end were CCS-PMV (Porlamar, Isla Margarita), CCS-MAR, MAR-PTY. All that remains from now on of an airline with almost 90 years of history is its technical support division. Sad. Once again: Bravo, Maduro!!

Also, Santa Barbara, or SBAirlines, ceases its CCS-PTY flights from August 29th. This flight was operated by sister airline Aserca for the last 4 weeks. SBArlines will only fly CCS-MIA when this cancellation takes effect.

Panama will require tourist visas for Venezuelan citizens wishing to visit, starting October 1st. Not sure if this has anything to do with these two cancellations behind the scenes, but I personally doubt it. It could however have to do with the rumours a few weeks back about CM quitting its Venezuelan routes. I'm sure CM would have been informed underhand by the Panamanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs about these plans. We will see if this will make those rumours come true or not. I guess most PAX on CM out of Venezuela are transfering in PTY anyway, and I guess those wouldn't need a visa.


Not surprising at all re: Venezuelan airlines. In fact, it is surprising they made it this far.

I guess Panama is preparing itself for a potential juggernaut of refugees once Maduro, Delsy, Cabello, Tarek et al lose all pretenses and Venezuela joins the Cuba sisterhood. I reckon a humanitarian crisis could be around the corner. My heart aches for Venezuela.

Incidentally, read today on El Pais/Madrid and Clarin/Buenos Aires that Maduro announced controls to social media, aka censure. What is the take on that from Venezuela? Or just another item checked on the descent to full dictatorship?

One of first victims of a dictatorship or a totalitarian regime is the truth. Therefore, one of the most difficult things in the Venezuela of today is to filter out the objective truth from the rumours, the propaganda, the exaggerations and fears people have. While it is true he said what you write, he has also in the last 24 hours claimed that he will use a rocket lent to him by North Korea, so who really knows? I would say that not even Maduro knows, as there is no policy, it's all improvised. However, should they seriously restrict or filter/censure social media, I think that would really ignite social unrest, more so than any lack of maize flour (a staple food in short supply for the last two years) would.
 
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Re: Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela ceases flight operations

Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:48 am

Harina PAN... yes, sold here in California in some places; heard it has become the vain of the existence of Venezuelan emigres as it is hard to find in Argentina, Chile or Spain and they can't make arepas "comme il faut". In Argentina, being Italy in South America, they can get polenta, but it is not the same...
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Re: Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela ceases flight operations

Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:54 am

dcajet wrote:
Harina PAN... yes, sold here in California in some places; heard it has become the vain of the existence of Venezuelan emigres as it is hard to find in Argentina, Chile or Spain and they can't make arepas "comme il faut". In Argentina, being Italy in South America, they can get polenta, but it is not the same...


You can find Harina PAN in almost every supermarket in Spain. But it´s not made in Venezuela, it´s made in..... Greenville, Texas!
 
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Re: Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela ceases flight operations

Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:31 pm

https://t.co/3cQGPWieUg

Link in Spanish only, sorry.

Basically says that a major breakdown of domestic air service in Venezuela is expected, even if not imminent, due to the same problem that grounded Rutaca and Aeropostal, and briefly, Conviasa: lack of insurance cover, as the reinsurers won't touch Venezuelan airlines with a ten foot pole.
 
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Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:27 pm

Aeropostal, the oldest airline in Venezuela and one of the oldest in Latin America after Avianca and LATAM Airlines Chile, has ceased operations last Sunday, putting 88 years of history to an abrupt yet foreseeable end.

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/venezue ... perations/

I have so many good memories about Aeropostal and its people, to whom I will ever be thankful for allowing me to share and document the operations of the airline for eight years.





¡Gracias Avioncito, gracias Aeropostal! I am sure the dove will be back someday, with clear skies for its employees.
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Re: Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:42 pm

Sadly, another Latin carrier goes down. We're very close to the day that only LATAM and AV will be around throughout the region.

Hasta pronto, Aeropostal!
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Re: Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:57 pm

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Re: Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:02 pm

Shame to see Aeropostal go but I am not surprised at all. I wonder if they will come back after all the mess in Venezuela is resolved.

AASAP777 wrote:
Sadly, another Latin carrier goes down. We're very close to the day that only LATAM and AV will be around throughout the region.

Hasta pronto, Aeropostal!


I'm sure Aeromexico, Copa Airlines, and Cubana are not going to be gone. Not so sure about Aerolineas Argentinas.
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Re: Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:13 pm

What a tragedy, Another Venezuelan legacy bites the dust:( I hope that once this nightmare ends in Venezuela, they would come back, as well as Avensa.
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Re: Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:28 pm

tommyarias wrote:
Shame to see Aeropostal go but I am not surprised at all. I wonder if they will come back after all the mess in Venezuela is resolved.

AASAP777 wrote:
Sadly, another Latin carrier goes down. We're very close to the day that only LATAM and AV will be around throughout the region.

Hasta pronto, Aeropostal!


I'm sure Aeromexico, Copa Airlines, and Cubana are not going to be gone. Not so sure about Aerolineas Argentinas.


True about CM and AM, however, could they compete if left alone against these monsters that catch a lot of North-South traffic? AM, for starters, does not have that much of a network in the region, as a flag carrier, it has special emphasis in Mexico, while CM does have an impressive network connectiong North and South America. Of those two, I can see CM standing strong. CU is out of the question, but as long as it continues to be state-run, they should be ok. Not sure either about AR.
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Re: Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:51 pm

AASAP777 wrote:
True about CM and AM, however, could they compete if left alone against these monsters that catch a lot of North-South traffic? AM, for starters, does not have that much of a network in the region, as a flag carrier, it has special emphasis in Mexico, while CM does have an impressive network connectiong North and South America. Of those two, I can see CM standing strong. CU is out of the question, but as long as it continues to be state-run, they should be ok. Not sure either about AR.

AM has the backing of DL, so its survival is not in question. AM's role is not and probably won't be to connect South America to North America. Its geographic location only makes it convenient for South America to West Coast North America transfers. Plus, Mexico's rules for immigration, baggage and customs also make it harder for MEX to be regarded as a connecting hub like PTY. In terms of the Americas, AM focuses on its domestic market, Mexico to U.S. and Canada, Mexico to Central and South America, and Latin America to NRT (and to a lesser extent PVG and ICN). AM should further develop its relationships with Gol, Aerolíneas Argentinas and Westjet to further strengthen but, again, I don't think AM is right now in a position to imitate CM.
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Re: Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:18 pm

Another achievement of this brillant socialist government.
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Re: Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela ceases flight operations

Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:21 pm

I have merged a new thread about this Topic into an older one. Enjoy your discussion.
 
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Re: Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela ceases flight operations

Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:40 pm

I am confused. It was reported on here that Aeropostal ceased operations over a month ago on losing its insurance coverage. Did it get a reprieve after that shut down?
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Re: Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:47 pm

Gonzalo wrote:
Another achievement of this brillant socialist government.


Calling the Maduro regime a socialist government is an insult to countless honest socialist politicians and governments across the world, past and present. They (those in power in Venezuela) are nothing but a band of drug trafficking thugs and thieves.
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Re: Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:18 pm

dcajet wrote:
Gonzalo wrote:
Another achievement of this brillant socialist government.


Calling the Maduro regime a socialist government is an insult to countless honest socialist politicians and governments across the world, past and present. They (those in power in Venezuela) are nothing but a band of drug trafficking thugs and thieves.


True. My fault. This kind of people should be in jail and doesn't deserve the honour to be related with any political way of thinking.
Sad to see another historical airline down and very sad for the people working at Aeropostal. My best wishes to all.

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Re: Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela ceases flight operations

Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:10 am

dcajet wrote:
I am confused. It was reported on here that Aeropostal ceased operations over a month ago on losing its insurance coverage. Did it get a reprieve after that shut down?

You are easily forgiven for being confused. And you are not alone. This (as most other things here in Venezuela) has been a mess. This regime can't even bankrupt a company properly... This is what happened, as my more-or-less insider sources tell me: A couple of weeks back, as I reported here, the insurance cover on their only airworthy aircraft, an MD-82, was revoked for non-payment. It seems they somehow managed to get some kind of cover for it after all, although it's not clear whether it was by paying the previous insurer, or contracting a local one, since all flights were domestic anyway (I guess it would be technically doable, even if a cover by a local insurer wouldn't be worth much in case something happens). So, they kept flying a shadow of their former services, from CCS to MAR and PMV. What happened now is that this last aircraft ran out of hours. So, this is really it for this airline of great history, I guess, as they are lightyears from being able to lease - let alone buy - another aircraft. Unless, of course, the government forks out serious cash...which they don't have and would have no reason to do anyway. They already have Conviasa (also on life support, but still...).
 
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Re: Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:05 pm

tommyarias wrote:
I'm sure Aeromexico (...) (is) not going to be gone. Not so sure about Aerolineas Argentinas.


Aeromexico suspended its MEX - CCS service in June 2016. About Argentinas... I wouldn't be surprised if they close the EZE - CCS route.

MalevTU134 wrote:
You are easily forgiven for being confused. And you are not alone. This (as most other things here in Venezuela) has been a mess.


Thanks for clarifying this. The country is a living example of a dystopia.
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Re: Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:13 pm

EddieDude wrote:
AASAP777 wrote:
True about CM and AM, however, could they compete if left alone against these monsters that catch a lot of North-South traffic? AM, for starters, does not have that much of a network in the region, as a flag carrier, it has special emphasis in Mexico, while CM does have an impressive network connectiong North and South America. Of those two, I can see CM standing strong. CU is out of the question, but as long as it continues to be state-run, they should be ok. Not sure either about AR.

AM has the backing of DL, so its survival is not in question. AM's role is not and probably won't be to connect South America to North America. Its geographic location only makes it convenient for South America to West Coast North America transfers. Plus, Mexico's rules for immigration, baggage and customs also make it harder for MEX to be regarded as a connecting hub like PTY. In terms of the Americas, AM focuses on its domestic market, Mexico to U.S. and Canada, Mexico to Central and South America, and Latin America to NRT (and to a lesser extent PVG and ICN). AM should further develop its relationships with Gol, Aerolíneas Argentinas and Westjet to further strengthen but, again, I don't think AM is right now in a position to imitate CM.


Yet here, AV is already with a good advantage: after merging TA into AV, they've got TA's SAL hub. Easy one-stop connections from LIM, MDE, CLO, BOG. And yet, even with two connections, still a good option for going to the US West Coast as they serve both SFO and LAX, which for South Americans, it could be the most relevant options (I understand AM does a lot of flying to many other cities in the West Coast, however, they serve better the huge Mexican diaspora in the Western US).
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Re: Venezuela's Aeropostal Ceased Operations

Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:51 pm

rleiro wrote:
tommyarias wrote:
I'm sure Aeromexico (...) (is) not going to be gone. Not so sure about Aerolineas Argentinas.


Aeromexico suspended its MEX - CCS service in June 2016. About Argentinas... I wouldn't be surprised if they close the EZE - CCS route.



Consider it done. AR stopped flying to CCS the week after Avianca did, after more than 40 years in Venezuela.
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