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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:53 pm

Did some research on Deltas website to find a couple of retirement dates for the 747-400. Here are the current results so far. If there is any mistake please do not hesitate to correct me.

As of August 31st, 2017:

*DTW->ICN (DL159) 12/15/17
(Predecessor: A350-900)

*DTW->NRT (DL275) 10/29/17
(Predecessor: A350-900)

*DTW->PVG (DL583) 10/27/17
(Predecessor: 777-200LR)

*HNL->NRT (DL577) 9/4/17
(Route changes to DL579)
(Predecessor: 767-300ER)
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:07 pm

Narfish641 wrote:
Did some research on Deltas website to find a couple of retirement dates for the 747-400. Here are the current results so far. If there is any mistake please do not hesitate to correct me.

As of August 31st, 2017:

*DTW->ICN (DL159) 12/15/17
(Predecessor: A350-900)

*DTW->NRT (DL275) 10/29/17
(Predecessor: A350-900)

*DTW->PVG (DL583) 10/27/17
(Predecessor: 777-200LR)

*HNL->NRT (DL577) 9/4/17
(Route changes to DL579)
(Predecessor: 767-300ER)


I think the word you are looking for is successor, not predecessor.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:50 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
Narfish641 wrote:
Did some research on Deltas website to find a couple of retirement dates for the 747-400. Here are the current results so far. If there is any mistake please do not hesitate to correct me.

As of August 31st, 2017:

*DTW->ICN (DL159) 12/15/17
(Predecessor: A350-900)

*DTW->NRT (DL275) 10/29/17
(Predecessor: A350-900)

*DTW->PVG (DL583) 10/27/17
(Predecessor: 777-200LR)

*HNL->NRT (DL577) 9/4/17
(Route changes to DL579)
(Predecessor: 767-300ER)


I think the word you are looking for is successor, not predecessor.



Dah Jesus! Thanks for pointing that out! This was typed when I woke up from a power nap. Can someome edit my post please?
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:27 am

atl100million wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
seabosdca wrote:
If they are really going to try to grow the Pacific, they need to do it with A350s. Trying to build out marginal Pacific routes with 777-200ERs is going to be a profit bloodbath when all of the stateside competition is doing the same thing with 787-9s at 25% lower trip cost.

...and paying $X,000,000 per month on each one of those aircraft, against 77Es that have been paid off for a decade and fully amortized.

So yes you're saving on fuel costs, but you're also paying through the ass on acquisition costs.
Let's not get too caught up in melodrama to forget basic details. ;)


precisely.... although newer technology aircraft has a much higher payback on long flights compared to short flights.

A key indicator of DL's plans for the 772ERs will be whether they get the new D1 cabins and premium economy. If they do, then DL likely intends to use them for at least 5 more years. If they don't at the same time the 777LRs get them, then DL might be content to use them on the Atlantic and to S. America until they are parked.

given that ownership costs for new generation widebody aircraft are around $1 million/month, the costs of a new generation widebody to an older model like the 772ER are high. At the same time, the cost of fuel is relatively low and likely will be for the near future. As with the M80s on the domestic system, 772ERs can be flex capacity that can be pulled during economic downturns over the Pacific and used for growth during periods of strength. If an airline uses all new generation aircraft, they have few options to economically park aircraft in downturns.


772ERs will get the cabin refresh before any LR does. They won't be retiring anytime soon.

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jbs2886 wrote:

I'm just reporting what I saw. Do you have information to contradict me?

It's bringing the crew, and the Chairman's Club nominees (recognized employees) to fly on the delivery flight.


Nice touch, but at first thought it sounds quite expensive compared to a transfer at AMS or CDG on a regular DL flight. Is it to provide the best experience for a handful of recognized employees? That would be impressive on the part of DL. Or are we talking about 100+ recognized employees?


It is 100 employees exactly that get recognized each year. When you have those along with the crew for the 350 ferry and some corporate communications people with them to take pictures, etc. it makes sense to just make a charter flight there rather than 100+ positive space seats on flights to CDG or AMS. And then they would still need a way to get down to TLS.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:51 am

Aircraft change effective 8/31:
+ one-off unscheduled ATL-LAX-ATL rotation operated by 764 today (replacing 752)

Additionally, N183DN (763ER-high J) operated an additional AMS-JFK commercial flight as the return leg of the ATL-TLS flight from earlier in the week and N1501P (763ER-low J) positioned SFO-OAK to bring the Seahawks back to Seattle following tonight's game.

Tomorrow 9/1 begins the seasonal slow-down of flights at DL. Stay tuned.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:51 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Tomorrow 9/1 begins the seasonal slow-down of flights at DL. Stay tuned.


More likely around Sept 5 or 6, after the Labor Day weekend, no? Quite a few of the seasonal transatlantic flights are ending after 5 Sep including JFK-TXL (76Z), JFK-SVO (76Z) and JFK-CPH (763/75S).
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:22 am

tjerome wrote:

It is 100 employees exactly that get recognized each year. When you have those along with the crew for the 350 ferry and some corporate communications people with them to take pictures, etc. it makes sense to just make a charter flight there rather than 100+ positive space seats on flights to CDG or AMS. And then they would still need a way to get down to TLS.


Yep, at those numbers it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the update!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:07 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Aircraft change effective 8/31:
+ one-off unscheduled ATL-LAX-ATL rotation operated by 764 today (replacing 752)

Additionally, N183DN (763ER-high J) operated an additional AMS-JFK commercial flight as the return leg of the ATL-TLS flight from earlier in the week and N1501P (763ER-low J) positioned SFO-OAK to bring the Seahawks back to Seattle following tonight's game.

Tomorrow 9/1 begins the seasonal slow-down of flights at DL. Stay tuned.


Thank you for the updates and for starting this excellent topic.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:44 pm

Question - I know that the end of the summer season flying creates slack in the fleet and that it's a time to do maintenance. However, does DL end up with planes that are parked for relatively long stretches? (Days, weeks, or possibly a month?) and if so where do,they park the planes? ATL/DTW?
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:02 pm

tlecam wrote:
Question - I know that the end of the summer season flying creates slack in the fleet and that it's a time to do maintenance. However, does DL end up with planes that are parked for relatively long stretches? (Days, weeks, or possibly a month?) and if so where do,they park the planes? ATL/DTW?


Over here in ATL they park a couple of planes outside of the TechOps hangers. However, I'm not sure how long they park them. But most likey when they just need them they pull one into service.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:46 pm

tlecam wrote:
Question - I know that the end of the summer season flying creates slack in the fleet and that it's a time to do maintenance. However, does DL end up with planes that are parked for relatively long stretches? (Days, weeks, or possibly a month?) and if so where do,they park the planes? ATL/DTW?


They really can be any big station - it is pretty common to see a 767 come into BOS on a Monday, stay the night, then depart on Tuesday. I'm sure at ATL or DTW a plane may sit for 2-3 days but nothing longer than that I think. They balance things out, unless something is in maintenance you won't see planes sitting unused for a week or a month.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:07 am

Aircraft change effective 9/1:
+ one-off unscheduled SEA-MSP-ATL flight operated by 763 (high-J) today (replacing 752)
+ one-off unscheduled ATL-LAX-ATL flight operated by 764 today (replacing 752)
+ one-off unscheduled ATL-JFK-ATL flight operated by 764 today (replacing 752)
- seasonal reduction on ATL-LOS route from daily to 5x weekly effective 9/1 (operated by 763-high J with crew rests)
- seasonal reduction on JFK-DKR route from 3x weekly to 2x weekly effective 9/1 (1x weekly 763-low J cancelled; 2x weekly 753 continues)
- seasonal reduction on SEA-HNL route as daily 763 (low-J) is cancelled effective 9/1 (operated by 333/739/757 thru 9/3); 1x daily 753 continues
<> JFK-BRU temporarily switching from 763-low J to 764 from 9/1-9/5

Additionally, N502DN (359) completed its delivery flight (TLS-ATL) today.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:40 am

What is the difference between delta's two "high j" 767-300er configuarations ?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:07 am

UA777EWRTLV wrote:
What is the difference between delta's two "high j" 767-300er configuarations ?

76T (7x) have crew rest facilities which results in 3 less W seats than the 76L (29x) which do not have crew rest facilities
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:19 am

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What is the difference between delta's two "high j" 767-300er configuarations ?


One configuration called the 76T (ships 1607-1613) has separate pilot rest bunk facilities so all 36J seats can be for sale on all long haul flights which would require crew rest; as a result of the pilot rest facility, the Y cabin has 172 seats only (reduction of 3 Y seats compared to the other high-J 763ERs). These were the first to get nose-to-tail AVOD PTV so coach has the older version with the smaller TV screens.

The other high-J version also known as the 76L (ships 171-172, 174-179, 182-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708) have 36J seats but on long haul flights which require pilot rest, only 35J seats are for sale as one J seat (seat 7A) is reserved for the pilot on break; Y has 175 seats. These have the newer and larger PTV screens in Y.

Both these versions have flight attendant bunks below deck at the back of the plane.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:34 pm

Thanks for the clear explanation!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:15 pm

Caught a picture of one of the A350s next to a 744.

Image
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:17 am

ikolkyo wrote:
Caught a picture of one of the A350s next to a 744.

Image


I like the comparison of the two frames. The 359's engines appear so much larger than those on the 744. I'd not seen any size comparisons of the 359 vs other wide bodies. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:56 am

thats the first image I've seen with the a359 next to another wide body! especially next to a 747! it really shows its size!! usually the a359 looks like a narrow body by itself.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:55 am

Aircraft change effective 9/3:
+ scheduled ATL-SAN flights resume on 763 (domestic); mid-afternoon departure from ATL (replaces ATL-ANC temporary flights)
- seasonal decrease on HNL-NGO route; effective 9/3, daily 763(low-J) replaces 4x weekly 763(low-J) + 3 weekly 333
- seasonal decrease on HNL-NRT route; effective 9/3, cancellation of 3rd daily flight operated on Tu-Th-Su
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:28 am

ikolkyo wrote:
Caught a picture of one of the A350s next to a 744.

Image


Great catch. Thanks for sharing. It's easy to lose sight of just how big these aircraft are, isn't it?

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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:28 pm

Thanks for the very informative list at the start of this post. It sure is tight. I guess as the A350 arrive there will be some slack to enable operations with anticipated down times on aircraft due to mx issues that arise.

As to DL becoming an Aribus carrier, don't they still have 787 on order?
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:50 pm

Delta cancelled the 787 order in December 2016. They worked out a deal with Boeing to swap out whatever credits they had on the books over to their 737-900 ER order.

http://www.businessinsider.com/delta-ca ... er-2016-12
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:48 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
UA777EWRTLV wrote:
What is the difference between delta's two "high j" 767-300er configuarations ?

76T (7x) have crew rest facilities which results in 3 less W seats than the 76L (29x) which do not have crew rest facilities


Crew rest facilities on B763ER are the biz seats at the rear of the cabin behind curtains or is there something more upscale like on the B777 for instance?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:07 pm

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As to DL becoming an Aribus carrier

Which is a rather inane suggestion by those doing it


NZ321 wrote:
don't they still have 787 on order?

Not anymore
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:00 am

Aircraft change effective 9/4:
- seasonal decrease on ATL-ICN route from daily to 6x weekly effective 9/4 (operated by 77L)
- temporary decrease on JFK-SFO route; effective 9/2, twice daily flights on 763ER(low-J); also end of flights on 763ER (high-J)
- one-off scheduled flight cancellation on HNL-NRT route on 9/4 (763ER-low J)
+ one-off scheduled upgrade on JFK-SEA route on 9/4 (763ER-high J replaces 752)
+ one-off scheduled upgrade on JFK-ATL route on 9/4 (763ER-low J replaces 738)
+ one-off scheduled upgrade on SEA-MSP route on 9/4 (333 replaces 752)

Also, all spotters in HNL & LAX, get your cameras ready. Final DL 744 flights coming your way in a couple of hours. N669US is about to depart NRT on a one-way NRT-HNL-LAX-DTW repositioning flight. DTW will remain the only domestic 744 station following this flight.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:39 am

It looks like N662US (744) flew its last commercial flight on Sep 4 (PVG-DTW). Its probably being de-commissioned now in DTW for salvageable parts (seats/galleys/etc) that could be used as spares for the remaining 6x 744s until they get retired in December. Should fly out to the desert thereafter.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:41 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
It looks like N662US (744) flew its last commercial flight on Sep 4 (PVG-DTW). Its probably being de-commissioned now in DTW for salvageable parts (seats/galleys/etc) that could be used as spares for the remaining 6x 744s until they get retired in December. Should fly out to the desert thereafter.


If I'm not mistaken, N666US looks like it's next up in line.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N666US
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:06 pm

astuteman wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Caught a picture of one of the A350s next to a 744.

Image


Great catch. Thanks for sharing. It's easy to lose sight of just how big these aircraft are, isn't it?

Rgds


This is still my favorite picture to see the size of the A350:

Image
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:30 pm

Narfish641 wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
It looks like N662US (744) flew its last commercial flight on Sep 4 (PVG-DTW). Its probably being de-commissioned now in DTW for salvageable parts (seats/galleys/etc) that could be used as spares for the remaining 6x 744s until they get retired in December. Should fly out to the desert thereafter.


If I'm not mistaken, N666US looks like it's next up in line.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N666US


6302 will leave the fleet on Sep 30th, it will be used as a spare frame from the 14th until that date.

6306 will leave in early December.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:38 am

Aircraft change effective 9/5:
<> JFK-BCN route switches from 772 to 333 effective 9/5
- end of seasonal service on JFK-TXL route effective 9/5 (was operated by 763ER-low J)
- end of seasonal service on JFK-SVO route effective 9/5 (was operated by 763ER-low J)
- end of seasonal service on ATL-MXP route effective 9/5 (was operated by 764)
- seasonal decrease on SLC-HNL route from daily to 6x weekly effective 9/5 (operated by 763)
- seasonal decrease on ATL-BRU route from daily to 5x weekly effective 9/5 (operated by 763ER-high J)
- seasonal decrease on JFK-AGP route from daily to 6x weekly effective 9/5 (operated by 763ER-low J)
- seasonal decrease on JFK-SNN route from daily to 5x weekly effective 9/5 (operated by 763ER-low J)
- seasonal decrease on ATL-DUS route from daily to 6x weekly effective 9/5 (operated by 764)
- seasonal decrease on JFK-ATH route from 2x daily to daily effective 9/5 (operated by 333)
- seasonal decrease on RDU-CDG route; 75W replaces 763ER-high J effective 9/5
- seasonal decrease on ATL-VCE route; gradual migration from 764 to 763ER from 9/5 to 9/13
- additional seasonal decrease on HNL-NRT route as 763ER-low J replaces 744 and flights go from daily to 4 weekly effective 9/5
- one-off scheduled cancellation on SEA-HKG route on 9/5 (operated by 332)
+ seasonal increase on ATL-ZRH route from 6x weekly to daily effective 9/5 (operated by 764)
+ one-off scheduled RDU-SLC-SEA flight on 9/5 (763ER-high J); repositioning aircraft away from RDU
+ one-off scheduled upgrade on HNL-LAX route on 9/5 (744 replaces 763ER-low J); repositioning aircraft to DTW
+ one-off scheduled upgrade on JFK-ATL route on 9/5 (772 replaces 752); repositioning for maintenance

Separately, N1605 (763ER-high J) is on a ferry flight on 9/5 from DTW-SEA-NRT. Perhaps on its way for maintenance @CAN?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:57 am

Aircraft change effective 9/6:
+ unscheduled one-off upgrade on ATL-DTW route from M88 to 763ER-high J; repositioning plane as sister plane went tech in MUC

Separately, as mentioned in a few other posts, DL announced today the launch of IND-CDG daily flight from next May. Scheduled to be operated by 763ER low-J. Also N172DZ (763ER-high J) is on a SEA-NRT ferry flight. Perhaps on its way to CAN for maintenance.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:10 am

Aircraft change effective 9/7:
+ seasonal upgrade on JFK-ACC route; 764 replaces 763-low J effective 9/7
+ unscheduled one-off upgrade on ATL-FLL route (763 replaces 752); Hurricane Irma relief flight
+ unscheduled one-off upgrade on ATL-MCO route (763 replaces 753); Hurricane Irma relief flight
+ unscheduled one-off upgrade on ATL-MCO route (772 replaces 321); Hurricane Irma relief flight
+ unscheduled one-off upgrade on ATL-MCO route (77L replaces 321); Hurricane Irma relief flight

Separately, N172DZ (763ER- high J) entered CAN for maintenance on 9/7 (SEA-NRT-CAN) and N16065 (763ER-high J) ferried back MUC-ATL after having gone tech the day earlier in MUC.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:33 am

*spotter alert* N667US (744) is planning to do a DTW-MCO turn on 9/8 to provide Hurricane Irma relief.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:50 pm

A 744 will be running DTW-MCO-DTW-ATL-DTW today. Operating the last ATL outbound tonight. Not sure of the flight numbers off the top of my head, but I believe it's the same aircraft operating all segments.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:02 pm

ThomasMTroxell wrote:
A 744 will be running DTW-MCO-DTW-ATL-DTW today. Operating the last ATL outbound tonight. Not sure of the flight numbers off the top of my head, but I believe it's the same aircraft operating all segments.
I believe 6307 and 6306 are the 744s being used, 6307 on MCO and 6306 in ATL.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:47 am

Aircraft change effective 9/8:
+ resumption of ATL-SAN flights on 763; 6x weekly effective 9/8; 763 replaces 753/739
+ scheduled one-off additional JFK-SEA flight operated by 763ER high-J
+ unscheduled one-off upgrade on ATL-FLL route (763 replaces 752); Hurricane Irma relief flight
+ unscheduled one-off upgrade on ATL-MSP route (763 replaces 752)
+ 2x unscheduled one-off upgrade on ATL-MCO route (772 replaces 321); Hurricane Irma relief flight
+ unscheduled one-off upgrade on DTW-ATL route (744 replaces 752/739)
+ unscheduled one-off upgrade on DTW-MCO route (744 replaces 753); Hurricane Irma relief flight
+ unscheduled ferry flight on ATL-SEA operated by 333; rescue flight for sister plane that went tech

Separately, N189DN (763ER-low J) conducted a military charter on 9/8 routing ATL-BAD-FFD
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:53 am

Aircraft change effective 9/9:
+ scheduled one-off upgrade on JFK-SEA-JFK route; 764 replaces 739/752
+ scheduled one-off additional SEA-NRT flight operated by 763ER-high J
+ 2x unscheduled one-off upgrade on ATL-MCO route (772 replaces 321); Hurricane Irma relief flight
+ 2x unscheduled one-off upgrade on DTW-MCO route (744 replaces 753/752); Hurricane Irma relief flight
+ unscheduled one-off upgrade on DTW-AMS route (333 replaces 332) as sister aircraft when tech in PEK
+ unscheduled ferry flight SEA-DTW operated by 333; positioning aircraft for rescue flight DTW-AMS
+ unscheduled ferry flight MCO-ATL operated by 763ER-high J; positioning aircraft away from Hurricane Irma
- unscheduled downgrade on ATL-CDG route; 763ER-high J replaces 764 as sister 764 went tech in MAD
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:00 am

Aircraft change effective 9/10:
+ unscheduled upgrade on DTW-ATL route; 333 replaces 752/739; repositioning frame post-rescue flight
+ unscheduled upgrade on JFK-ATL-SLC route; 763ER(low-J) replaces 752; repositioning frame to rescue SLC-LHR flight
<> unscheduled change on SLC-LHR route; 763ER(low-J) replaces 763ER (high-J); original airframe went tech

Separately, N173DZ (763ER-high J) entered CAN for scheduled maintenance on 9/10
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:40 am

Following the post-labour day seasonal changes, here's a summary of where things stand:

3x B763 Domestic [C30W28Y203] - 3/3 needed
> no change

29x B763ER High-J Configuration [C36W32Y143] - 24/29 needed
> 4 less aircraft needed than summer schedule
> 2 in maintenance (@CAN)
> 3 hot spares

7x B763ER High-J Configuration with crew rest [C36W29Y143] - 7/7 needed
> no change

22x B763ER Low-J Configuration [C26W29Y171] - 20/22 needed
> 2 less aircraft needed than summer schedule
> 2 hot spares

11x A332 [C34W32Y168] - 11/11 needed
> no change

21x B764 [C40W28Y178] - 19/21 needed
> 1 less aircraft needed than summer schedule
> 1 in maintenance (@ATL)
> 1 hot spare

8x B772ER [C37W36Y218] - 7/8 needed
> 1 less aircraft needed than summer schedule
> 1 in maintenance (@ATL)

10x B772LR [C37W38Y218] - 9/10 needed
> no change

31x A333 [C34W32Y227] (incl. 10x HGW version but schedule not segregated) - 29/31 needed
> 1 less aircraft needed than summer schedule
> 1 in maintenance (@MSP)
> 1 hot spare

7x B744 [C48W42Y286] - 5/7 needed
> 1 less aircraft needed than summer schedule
> 2 hot spares
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:58 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Following the post-labour day seasonal changes, here's a summary of where things stand:


Thank you for all your detailed info!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:08 pm

Wow - impressive summary. Very interesting. For some reason, I thought that there were bigger swings between summer peak flying and non-peak.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:10 pm

tlecam wrote:
Wow - impressive summary. Very interesting. For some reason, I thought that there were bigger swings between summer peak flying and non-peak.

We're nowhere near non-peak yet. This was just the first run. More to come between now and the lulls of late Oct/Early Nov.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:07 pm

cfichad wrote:
It looks like Delta will ultimately be an all Airbus carrier, is my estimation correct?


With so many 737-900ERs on order? Doubtful.
What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:00 am

Aircraft change effective 9/11-14:
+ scheduled JFK-SEA-JFK upgrade on 9/11 & 9/13 (764 replaces 752)
+ unscheduled DTW-ATL ferry flight on 9/12 (763ER-high J); repositioning aircraft
+ unscheduled CDG-ATL-GRU ferry flight on 9/11 (763ER-high J); Hurricane Irma relief flight
+ unscheduled MCO-ATL ferry flight on 9/13 (763ER-high J); repositioning aircraft
+ unscheduled DTW-LHR ferry flight on 9/13 (763ER-low J); rescue flight
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-FLL route (763ER-high J replaces 752) on 9/12; Hurricane Irma relief flight
+ unscheduled upgrade on SLC-ATL route (763ER-high J replaces 752) on 9/11; repositioning aircraft
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-MCO route (763ER-high J replaces 321) on 9/14; repositioning aircraft
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-JFK route (763ER-high J replaces 738) on 9/12; repositioning aircraft
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-MSP-ATL route (763ER-high J replaces 752) on 9/12
+ unscheduled upgrade on JFK-ATL route (763-low J replaces 752) on 9/14
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SCL route (764 replaces 763-high J) on 9/13
<> unscheduled change on JFK-LAX route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J) on 9/12
<> unscheduled change on JFK-SFO-JFK-AGP route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J) on 9/14
<> unscheduled change on JFK-GRU route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J) on 9/11
<> unscheduled change on LHR-DTW-LHR route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J) on 9/14
<> unscheduled change on LHR-ATL-LHR route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J) on 9/11
<> unscheduled change on LHR-ATL-SCL route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J) on 9/12
<> unscheduled change on ATL-NRT route (772 replaces 77L) on 9/12
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:15 am

Aircraft change effective 9/15:
+ scheduled additional MCO-SEA flight (operated by 763ER-high J); aircraft repositioning
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-JFK route (763ER-low J replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SCL route (764 replaces 763ER-high J)
+ unscheduled SLC-LHR ferry flight (operated by 763ER-low J); rescue flight
+ unscheduled DTW-ATL ferry flight (operated by 744); repositioning
<> unscheduled aircraft change on CDG-EWR-AMS route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J)
<> unscheduled aircraft change on LHR-DTW-MUC route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J)
<> unscheduled aircraft change on ATL-NRT route (772 replaces 77L)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:01 am

Aircraft change effective 9/16:
+ scheduled additional SEA-NRT flight (operated by 763ER-high J)
+ scheduled upgrade on JFK-SEA route (763ER-low J replaces 738)
+ scheduled upgrade on HNL-LAX route (333 replaces 763ER-low J)
+ unscheduled ferry flight LHR-ATL (operated by 763ER-low J)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SAN route (763 replaces 753)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-FLL route (763ER-high J replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-NRT route (744 replaces 77L)
- scheduled downgrade on DTW-AMS route (763ER-low J replaces 332)
- unscheduled downgrade on ATL-SLC route (753 replaces 763)
<> unscheduled aircraft change on AMS-JFK-SNN route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J)

New batch of seasonal changes:
<> effective 9/16, JFK-BRU route operated by 763ER-high J (previously operated by 763ER-low J)
<> effective 9/16, ATL-CDG route operated by 772 (previously operated by 333)
+ effective 9/16, additional ATL-MCO flight operated by 764
+ effective 9/16, MCO-GRU route operated by 764 (previously operated by 763ER-high J)
+ effective 9/16, JFK-GRU route operated by 333 (previously operated by 763ER-high J)
+ effective 9/16, ATL-BCN route operated by 333 (previously operated by 764)
- effective 9/16, HNL-KIX route operated by 763ER-low J (previously operated by 333)
- effective 9/16, JFK-BCN route operated by 764 (previously operated by 333)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:14 pm

BobMUC wrote:
astuteman wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Caught a picture of one of the A350s next to a 744.

Image


Great catch. Thanks for sharing. It's easy to lose sight of just how big these aircraft are, isn't it?

Rgds


This is still my favorite picture to see the size of the A350:

Image
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/14382828689


I think the size of the windows on the 350 and 787 make their overall size deceptive.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:47 am

Aircraft change effective 9/17-18:
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-LAX route (763 replaces 739) on 9/17
+ military charter on SEA-DNA-HNL operated by 332 on 9/17
+ military charter on ATL-POB-HHN-KWI operated by 744 on 9/18
<> unscheduled change of aircraft on SNN-JFK-SFO-JFK route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J) on 9/17
<> unscheduled change of aircraft on SLC-CDG route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J) on 9/17
<> unscheduled change of aircraft on ATL-LHR route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J) on 9/17
<> unscheduled change of aircraft on ATL-ICN route (772 replaces 77L) on 9/17
<> unscheduled change of aircraft on BOS-CDG route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J) on 9/17-18
<> unscheduled change of aircraft on ATL-CDG route (77L replaces 772) on 9/17-18
<> unscheduled change of aircraft on CVG-CDG route (763-ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J) on 9/18
<> unscheduled change of aircraft on JFK-LAX route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J) on 9/18
<> unscheduled change of aircraft on JFK-SFO route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J) on 9/18

Seasonal adjustments:
- Effective 9/17, JFK-ACC route operated by 763ER-high J instead of 764
- Effective 9/17, SLC-AMS route operated by 763ER-low J instead of 332
- Effective 9/17, JFK-AGP route decreases from 6x wk to 5x wk (operated by 763ER-low J)
- Effective 9/18, HNL-FUK route decreases from 7x wk to 5x wk (operated by 763ER-low J)

Also, N174DZ entered CAN for maintenance, joining sister aircraft N172DZ/N173DZ
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:31 am

Aircraft change effective 9/19:
+ unscheduled change of aircraft on DTW-AMS route (333 replaces 332)
<> unscheduled change of aircraft on JFK-SFO route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J)
<> unscheduled change of aircraft on JFK-BRU route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J)

Seasonal adjustments:
- SEA-HKG route decreases from Daily to 6x wk effective 9/19
- ATL-ICN route decreases from Daily to 6x wk effective 9/19

Other:
+ military charter running HNL-CRK (operated by 763ER-low J)
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