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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:10 pm

777Mech wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Delta this weekend uploaded the new routes as well as made a number of equipment changes for Summer 2018. Although the deployment changes are reflected below, please take these with a grain of salt. DL is still fine tuning things and there will be definite changes (such as the JFK-LHR flights and JFK-LAX/SFO flights). Nonetheless some interesting info:

B744 [C48W42Y286]
2017 - 7 frames (5/7 required)
2018 - 0 frames (all retired)
(-) DTW-ICN/NRT/PVG, HNL-NRT

A359 [C32W48Y226]
2017 - 0 frames
2018 - 8* frames (7/8 required)
(+) ATL-ICN, DTW-ICN/NRT/PEK
* The actual number of A359s in service should be around 11 by mid-Summer depending on delivery & induction schedules which will likely result in additional flights migrating to A359 (most probably from 77L routes below).

A333 [C34W32Y227] (incl. 10x HGW version but schedule not segregated)
2017 - 31 frames (30/31 required)
2018 - 31 frames (29/31 required)
(-) ATL-AMS (3x), BOS-AMS (1x), DTW-CDG, HNL-KIX/NGO, JFK-LAX, MSP-HNL, SEA-CDG
(+) ATL-BCN/LHR (1x), DTW-AMS (2x), JFK-BCN/CDG/TLV

B772LR [C37W38Y218]
2017 - 10 frames (9/10 required)
2018 - 10 frames (12/10 required)*
(-) ATL-ICN/LAX
(+) ATL-AMS/PVG, DTW-PVG, LAX-AMS/CDG
* Current schedule doesn't add up for 77L fleet. Most likely pending route re-allocation to A359 and/or other types. I'm anticipating ATL-NRT to transfer to A359 by the time ATL-PVG re-starts in July but i could be wrong; nonetheless, by then, there should be plenty of A359s on property.

B772ER [C37W36Y218]
2017 - 8 frames (8/8 required)
2018 - 8 frames (7/8 required)
(-) JFK-BCN/CDG/TLV
(+) SEA-CDG/HKG

B764 [C40W28Y178]
2017 - 21 frames (20/21 required)
2018 - 21 frames (20/21 required)
(-) ATL-BCN/FRA/STR/ZRH, JFK-FRA
(+) JFK-CPH/LAX(3x)/SFO*
* Planned re-introduction of 764 domestic coast-to-coast service. These could well end up going back to 763 service but for now, DL is anticipating putting its 764 service coast-to-coast.

11x A332 [C34W32Y168]
2017 - 11 frames (11/11 needed)
2018 - 11 frames (11/11 needed)
(-) DTW-AMS(2x)/FRA/PEK, SEA-HKG, SLC-AMS
(+) ATL-AMS(2x)/LHR/LOS, DTW-LHR, JFK-LOS/ZRH

B763ER High-J Configuration [C36W32Y143] including 7x with crew rest [C36W29Y143]
2017 - 36 frames (35/36 required)
2018 - XX frames (27/XX required)*
(-) ATL-BRU/LHR(3x)/LOS, DTW-LHR(1x), JFK-SFO(1x)/ZRH, MCO-GRU, NRT-PDX/PVG, RDU-CDG
(+) ATL-FRA/STR, DTW-CDG/FRA, JFK-FRA**
* It is rumoured that Delta will be modifying a number of 763ER High-J to 763ER Low-J during the slow winter season. This is to reflect demand as well as counter balance the retirement of certain (2x at the latest count) 763ER Low-J scheduled during Winter 2017-18.
** looks like FRA is migrating exclusively to 763ER.

B763ER Low-J Configuration [C26W29Y171]
2017 - 22 frames (22/22 required)
2018 - XX frames (29/XX required)*
(-) HNL-SEA, JFK-AGP/CPH/DKR/LAX(2x)/SFO(2x)/SNN/SVO
(+) ATL-BRU/LIS/ZRH, BOS-AMS, DTW-CDG, HNL-KIX/NGO/NRT, IND-CDG, MCO-AMS/GRU, MSP-HNL, NRT-PDX, PIT-CDG, RDU-CDG, SLC-AMS
* Obviously there remains some cleaning up to do in the 763ER schedules. The High-J/Low-J don't add individually and they barely do when added together and removing the 2 scheduled retiring frames.

B763 Domestic Configuration [C30W28Y203]
2017 - 3 frames (3/3 required)
2018 - 0 frames (retired)
(-) ATL-ANC/SAN/SLC-HNL/SFO

I had a bit of time and compared what was put together vs current schedule. Actually schedule is holding tightly together to my surprise.

These are the changes made since then:
ATL-AMS: 2x 332 replaced by 2x 333
ATL-EZE: 764 replaced by 333
ATL-GIG: 333 replaced by 764
ATL-SCL: 763HJ replaced by 763LJ
EWR-AMS: removed from scheduled (was 763LJ)
JFK-LHR: 2x 763HJ replaced by 2x 332

So basically, after netting things out, the schedule is seeing:
2x additional daily 333s
0.5x additional 763LJ
3.5x less 763HJ

This results in a fully committed schedule for the 333, High J 763s go to a 24 frame requirement and Low J 763s go to 30 frame requirement. Thus the schedule is taking shape. For things to work out, one expects one route to transfer from 77L to 359 in July and for 13-14 763ER-high J frames to be converted to low J frames.


Fwiw there should be 14 76L frames that that will get the Z mod by the end of 2018. With 10 done by the start of the summer schedule. I'm not sure how many 76Ls are in the fleet currently.


Currently:
High J (29): 171, 172, 174-179, 182-186, 1200, 1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708
High J w/ crew rest (7): 1607-1613
Low J (22): 180, 181, 187-199, 1501-1506, 1521
Total 58

My guess on the frames getting converted to low J will be 171, 172, 174-179 and 182-186. That's 13 frames right there, and with the exception to 1200 and 1201 (those could get converted too) and 1501-1506/1521 will keep the configuration based on the engine type: low J would be mostly PW engines (this would be 171-199) but would also have 1501-1506/1521 in there with GE engines, and high J would mostly have GE engines (1601-1606, 1701-1708) but would also have 1200 and 1201 with PW.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:12 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
amadorE175 wrote:
I didn't see JFK-ACC on the list of aircraft usage above. Based on the list it looks like the 767 fleet is stretched as is. Does JFK-ACC stay 767?

JFK-ACC stays 763-low J next summer. It wasn't listed because there is no change to aircraft usage.


What has changed is the timing of the flight. The return is now a redeye rather than a daytime flight.

So the currently loaded 767-300ER routes (looking at 6/21):

76T (7 out of 7 frames)
SEA-NRT-SIN
SEA-ICN
SEA-PEK
SEA-PVG

76L (13 out of 15 frames)
PDX-LHR (4x weekly)
SLC-LHR
MSP-LHR
DTW-LHR (3x weekly)
DTW-CDG
DTW-FRA
DTW-MUC
ATL-FRA
ATL-STR
JFK-GRU
JFK-FRA
BOS-LHR
BOS-CDG

76Z (33 out of 34 frames)
NRT-PVG
NRT-MNL
NRT-PDX
HNL-NRT
HNL-NGO
HNL-KIX
HNL-FUK
HNL-LAX
HNL-MSP
SEA-AMS
SLC-CDG
SLC-AMS
IND-CDG
CVG-CDG
MCO-GRU
MCO-AMS
ATL-SCL
ATL-LIS
ATL-BRU
ATL-ZRH
RDU-CDG
PIT-CDG
EWR-CDG
JFK-SFO
JFK-LAX (2x daily)
JFK-ACC (5x weekly)
JFK-BRU
JFK-AMS
JFK-TXL
BOS-AMS

There really don't need to be any domestic repositioning flights (which as an avgeek is kind of too bad). The 76Ts are all based out of SEA; the 76Ls can rotate between U.S. hubs via LHR, CDG, and FRA; and the 76Zs are mostly based at JFK, CDG, and AMS, rotating between JFK and ATL via BRU and to the Pacific via LAX and HNL. It looks like 76Zs will be bridged between CDG and AMS via SLC now that EWR-AMS is gone.

We'll see continued tweaks and swaps over the coming months (like what just happened with ATL-EZE/GIG on the 764/333), but the schedule seems to work as is through June.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:42 pm

Aircraft change effective 10/9:
+ unscheduled NRT-SEA-LHR ferry flight (operated by 763ER-high J)
+ unscheduled upgrade on JFK-ATL route (763ER-high J replaces 320); aircraft repositioning
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SJU route (764 replaces 739); hurricane Maria relief
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-SNN route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J)

Seasonal adjustments:
- MSP-LHR route decreases from 7x weekly to 6x weekly effective 10/9 (operated by 763ER-high J)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:44 am

N662US is at COS. Might be retired.
Flew on:
SWA 737 738
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:51 am

Narfish641 wrote:
N662US is at COS. Might be retired.

Military charter. Should be flying to RIV then HHN-KWI.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:57 am

FSDan wrote:

There really don't need to be any domestic repositioning flights (which as an avgeek is kind of too bad). .


Correct me if I am wrong, but there will have to be some domestic repositioning on the IND-CDG flight because there is no CDG-IND leg on May 24th only a IND-CDG leg...
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:21 am

Midwestindy wrote:
FSDan wrote:

There really don't need to be any domestic repositioning flights (which as an avgeek is kind of too bad). .


Correct me if I am wrong, but there will have to be some domestic repositioning on the IND-CDG flight because there is no CDG-IND leg on May 24th only a IND-CDG leg...

There will be a positioning ferry that usually occurs before the inaugural but after that, the aircraft will do a scissor routing from CDG like the RDU flight does.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:24 am

Narfish641 wrote:
N662US is at COS. Might be retired.


6302 is done for. Seats are needed from that ship to perform the 76L to Z mod that's coming up.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:20 am

777Mech wrote:
Narfish641 wrote:
N662US is at COS. Might be retired.


6302 is done for. Seats are needed from that ship to perform the 76L to Z mod that's coming up.


They're taking seats from a 747 and putting them in a 767?
Didn't realize the seat tracks lined up.

Someone else said it was a military charter...
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:23 pm

777Mech wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
FSDan wrote:

There really don't need to be any domestic repositioning flights (which as an avgeek is kind of too bad). .


Correct me if I am wrong, but there will have to be some domestic repositioning on the IND-CDG flight because there is no CDG-IND leg on May 24th only a IND-CDG leg...

There will be a positioning ferry that usually occurs before the inaugural but after that, the aircraft will do a scissor routing from CDG like the RDU flight does.


Yeah that is what I meant
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:35 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
777Mech wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong, but there will have to be some domestic repositioning on the IND-CDG flight because there is no CDG-IND leg on May 24th only a IND-CDG leg...

There will be a positioning ferry that usually occurs before the inaugural but after that, the aircraft will do a scissor routing from CDG like the RDU flight does.


Yeah that is what I meant


Maybe I should have said there don't have to be any *recurring* domestic repositioning flights to make the schedule work. For example, last summer DL ran a daily ATL-SEA and SEA-ATL flight on the 76T to bridge aircraft between SEA-PVG and ATL-LOS/ATL-LHR. This summer there will be no need for that flight since all the 76T routes will be out of SEA. More efficient for DL; less fun for avgeeks.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:49 pm

Aircraft change effective 10/10:
+ additional LHR-JFK-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-JFK route (763ER-low J replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SJU route (764 replaces 739)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-SFO route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J)

Seasonal adjustments:
- NRT-PDX route decreases from 7x weekly to 5x weekly effective 10/10 (operated by 763ER-high J)
- ATL-STR route decreases from 7x weekly to 6x weekly effective 10/10 (operated by 764)

Other:
+ NIP-ATL-HHN-NSY military charter (operated by 764)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:51 am

AA737-823 wrote:
777Mech wrote:
Narfish641 wrote:
N662US is at COS. Might be retired.

6302 is done for. Seats are needed from that ship to perform the 76L to Z mod that's coming up.

They're taking seats from a 747 and putting them in a 767?
Didn't realize the seat tracks lined up.
Someone else said it was a military charter...

Its definitely on a military charter to Kuwait as we speak via Riverside and Hahn. Probably meant that its done with scheduled passenger service and will be retired permanently shortly.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:36 pm

Aircraft change effective 10/11-12:
+ additional JFK-LHR rotation (operated by 763ER-high J); 10/11+ 10/12
+ unscheduled JFK-ATL ferry flight (operated by 763ER-low J); 10/11
+ unscheduled JFK-MSP ferry flight (operated by 333); 10/11
+ unscheduled ATL-JFK ferry flight (operated by 763ER-low J); 10/12
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SAN route (763ER-low J replaces 753/739); 10/11
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SJU route (764 replaces 739); 10/11 + 10/12
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SCL route (764 replaces 763ER-high J)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-LAX route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J); 10/11

Other:
JFK-ADW-NBW-JFK military charter (operated by 763ER-high J); 10/11
COS-RIV-HHN-KWI military charter (operated by 744); 10/11-12
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:36 pm

Narfish641 wrote:
Quick question, does anyone know the current Domestic Widebody routes that take place other than SEA and SAN?

ATL-SLC-HNL (763)
ATL-SLC (763)
ATL-SFO (763)
JFK-LAX (763ER/333)
JFK-SFO (763ER)
ATL-LAX (77L)
ATL-MCO (764)
ATL-SEA (763ER)
JFK-SEA (763ER)
HNL-LAX (763ER)
ATL-HNL (333)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:16 am

Aircraft change effective 10/13-14:
+ unscheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J); temporary replacing of a VS rotation; 10/13 & 10/14
+ unscheduled upgrade on JFK-SJU route (763ER-high replaces 738); hurricane Maria relief; 10/13 & 10/14
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-DTW route (763ER-high J replaces MD90); 10/13
+ unscheduled upgrade on JFK-ATL route (763ER-low J replaces 320)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SJU route (764 replaces 739); 10/13 + 10/14
+ unscheduled MSP-JFK ferry flight (operated by 333); aircraft repositioning; 10/14

Other:
+ 4x NKT-RIV military charters (operated by 763, 763ER-high J & 2x 763ER-low J); 10/14
+ N180DN (763ER-low J) exited AMA maintenance facility with new paint?; 12 days; 10/13
+ N702DN (77L) exited ATL maintenance facility; 9 days; 10/14
+ N825NW (333) exited MSP maintenance facility; 12 days; 10/14
+ TPA-PHX NFL charter bringing the Bucs to Phoenix (operated by 764); 10/13
+ LGB-SFO-GBT-RIV military charter (operated by 764); 10/14
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:18 am

**** N662US (744) has been retired from service. Flew from RIV to MZJ today 10/15 ****

The 744 fleet remains at 6, flying DTW-ICN/NRT/PVG as well as some military charters.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:18 pm

**** N144DA (763) has been retired from service. Flew from ATL to SBD today 10/16 ****

The 763 fleet remains at 2, flying ATL-SLC-HNL/SFO as well as some NFL charters.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:26 pm

Aircraft change effective 10/15:
+ unscheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on JFK-ATL route (763ER-low J replaces 320)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SJU route (764 replaces 739); hurricane Maria relief
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-SNN route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:34 pm

I just booked onto DL 1878 EWR-ATL on Saturday October 28th It is a 767-300ER Low J configured plane.

Not 100% why but I think I remember either EWR-CDG or to AMS going to 6 weekly instead of daily possibly to rotate the plane back to ATL after it returns from Europe.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:29 pm

gsg013 wrote:
I just booked onto DL 1878 EWR-ATL on Saturday October 28th It is a 767-300ER Low J configured plane.

Not 100% why but I think I remember either EWR-CDG or to AMS going to 6 weekly instead of daily possibly to rotate the plane back to ATL after it returns from Europe.


I believe It is swapping out the CDG- EWR flight (going from the 76Z to the 75S)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:32 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SJU route (764 replaces 739); hurricane Maria relief

This has been quite frequent for something unscheduled. Any idea how long the 764 service will continue?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:48 pm

cokepopper wrote:
gsg013 wrote:
I just booked onto DL 1878 EWR-ATL on Saturday October 28th It is a 767-300ER Low J configured plane.

Not 100% why but I think I remember either EWR-CDG or to AMS going to 6 weekly instead of daily possibly to rotate the plane back to ATL after it returns from Europe.


I believe It is swapping out the CDG- EWR flight (going from the 76Z to the 75S)



Ok so you think this is a one off? Funny to catch it I am heading back to Nashville that Saturday night and thought it was funny to see a Wide body rotation on a flight normally operated by 717 or MD-88. Better cross my fingers that they don't down-gauge the flight.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:30 pm

Sightseer wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SJU route (764 replaces 739); hurricane Maria relief

This has been quite frequent for something unscheduled. Any idea how long the 764 service will continue?

Its truly remained unscheduled. Delta upgrades the flights usually within 6-24 hours of departure. All flight schedules, including tomorrow 10/17, are showing 739 operated. Given this is purely a cargo related upgrade and that there is always 2+ 764s that spend the day in ATL (coming in from GRU/GIG/HNL), DL has the luxury to operate this way.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:06 pm

Any clue what type of cargo they have been loading to Puerto Rico on the ATL-SJU route to warrent the upgrade to 764? I would think maybe solar panels, generators, or possibly components to get the power grid up and running? Also possible any medical equipment/supplies?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:29 pm

Aircraft change effective 10/16:
+ scheduled one-off aircraft swap on JFK-BCN route (333 replaces 764)
+ unscheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SJU route (764 replaces 739); hurricane Maria relief

Seasonal adjustments:
- ATL-SLC downgraded from 763 to 757 (not to be confused with ATL-SLC-HNL which remains 763)
- ATL-LHR decreases from 21x weekly to 20x weekly (x1) effective 10/16 (operated by 763ER-low J)
- JFK-ATH downgraded from 333 to 764 effective 10/16 (6x weekly - x2)
<> ATL-CDG aircraft swap from 772 to 333 effective 10/16 (daily)

Other:
+ N172DZ (763ER-high J) exits CAN maintenance; 39 days
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:24 am

Aircraft change effective 10/17:
+ unscheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled DTW-MSP ferry flight (operated by 333); aircraft repositioning

Other:
+ A350 media day & demo flight (ATL-ATL)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:49 am

Aircraft change effective 10/18:
+ unscheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled ATL-DTW ferry flight (operated by 333); aircraft repositioning
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:32 am

Aircraft change effective 10/19:
+ unscheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on DTW-AMS route (333 replaces 332)
+ unscheduled DTW-SEA ferry flight (operated by 332); aircraft rescue
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-SFO route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J)

Seasonal adjustments:
- DTW-MUC decreases from 5x weekly to 4x weekly effective 10/19 (operated by 763ER-high J)
- JFK-SNN seasonal flights are cancelled effective 10/19 (operated by 763ER-low J)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:06 am

Aircraft change effective 10/20:
+ unscheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on BOS-SFO route (763ER-low J replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on SEA-DTW route (332 replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on DTW-AMS route (333 replaces 332)
+ unscheduled ATL-BOS ferry flight (operated by 763ER-low J); aircraft repositioning
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-SFO route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J)

Seasonal adjustments:
- MCO-GRU decreases from 6x weekly to 5x weekly effective 10/20 (operated by 764)

Other:
+ SEA-EWR NFL charter carrying the Seahawks to the Meadowlands (operated by 764)
+ ATL-SVN-SSC-HHN-XJD-KWI military charter (operated by 772)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:22 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
+ unscheduled upgrade on BOS-SFO route (763ER-low J replaces 752)

That would've been a fun flight to be on. DL probably hasn't had any 767 flights to the West Coast from BOS in a while.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:45 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Aircraft change effective 10/20:
+ unscheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on BOS-SFO route (763ER-low J replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on SEA-DTW route (332 replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on DTW-AMS route (333 replaces 332)
+ unscheduled ATL-BOS ferry flight (operated by 763ER-low J); aircraft repositioning
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-SFO route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J)

Seasonal adjustments:
- MCO-GRU decreases from 6x weekly to 5x weekly effective 10/20 (operated by 764)

Other:
+ SEA-EWR NFL charter carrying the Seahawks to the Meadowlands (operated by 764)
+ ATL-SVN-SSC-HHN-XJD-KWI military charter (operated by 772)


DTW-AMS DL132/133 Was upgraded to A350
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:56 am

Aircraft change effective 10/21:
+ unscheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on DTW-FRA route (333 replaces 332)

Other:
+ TPA-BUF NFL charter carrying the Bucs to Buffalo (operated by 764)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:17 am

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Oh, and that "Airbus C-Series" that they just bought too. ;)


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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:27 am

scbriml wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
Oh, and that "Airbus C-Series" that they just bought too.

What do they say about many a true word spoken in jest?

...whoa! :eek:
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:02 am

Aircraft change effective 10/22-23:
+ unscheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J); temporary replacement for a VS rotation; 10/22
+ unscheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-low J); temporary replacement for a VS rotation; 10/23
+ unscheduled upgrade on JFK-ATL route (763ER-high J replaces 752); 10/22
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-JFK route (763ER-low J replaces 752); 10/22
+ unscheduled upgrade on DTW-AMS route (333 replaces 332); 10/22
+ unscheduled upgrade on DTW-FRA route (333 replaces 332); 10/23
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-LAX route (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J); 10/23

Seasonal adjustments:
- DTW-LHR decreases from 14x weekly to 11x weekly effective 10/23 (operated by 763ER-high J)

Other:
+ GRK-BIF-MSP-HHN-KWI military charter (operated by 772); 10/23
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:45 am

I have a question about ATL-SLC-HNL. Isn't the 763 fleet close to the end of retirement? What aircraft will serve that flight after it is retired?
 
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:58 am

jubguy3 wrote:
I have a question about ATL-SLC-HNL. Isn't the 763 fleet close to the end of retirement? What aircraft will serve that flight after it is retired?

ATL-SLC-HNL is transferring to the 333 effective 10/28
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:08 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
I have a question about ATL-SLC-HNL. Isn't the 763 fleet close to the end of retirement? What aircraft will serve that flight after it is retired?

ATL-SLC-HNL is transferring to the 333 effective 10/28


Oh that's exciting. I love seeing the 333 in SLC, especially considering the capacity it will bring (more seats than delta's 777).

I have one more question... do you know what a/c delta uses for SLC-Europe? AMS, CDG, LHR. I know KLM uses the 789 and Delta uses some combination of 767 and A330 and I figured that you have access to the data? Thanks!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:21 am

jubguy3 wrote:
I have one more question... do you know what a/c delta uses for SLC-Europe? AMS, CDG, LHR. I know KLM uses the 789 and Delta uses some combination of 767 and A330 and I figured that you have access to the data? Thanks!

SLC-LHR: 763ER-High J
SLC-CDG: 763ER-Low J
SLC-AMS: 763ER-Low J (was 332 last summer 2017 but scheduled to remain 763 summer 2018)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:25 am

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jubguy3 wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
ATL-SLC-HNL is transferring to the 333 effective 10/28


Oh that's exciting. I love seeing the 333 in SLC, especially considering the capacity it will bring (more seats than delta's 777).

I have one more question... do you know what a/c delta uses for SLC-Europe? AMS, CDG, LHR. I know KLM uses the 789 and Delta uses some combination of 767 and A330 and I figured that you have access to the data? Thanks!


Delta is back to only 767-300ERs to Europe from SLC now. The AMS flight was on a 332 for the spring/summer, but is back to the 763 (76Z low-J config) for the fall/winter. CDG is also on a low-J 763, and LHR uses a high-J 763. Not sure how much longer the KLM flight will be going, but I know it's seasonal.


If I remember correctly it ends October 28th
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:26 am

jubguy3 wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
I have a question about ATL-SLC-HNL. Isn't the 763 fleet close to the end of retirement? What aircraft will serve that flight after it is retired?

ATL-SLC-HNL is transferring to the 333 effective 10/28


Oh that's exciting. I love seeing the 333 in SLC, especially considering the capacity it will bring (more seats than delta's 777).

I have one more question... do you know what a/c delta uses for SLC-Europe? AMS, CDG, LHR. I know KLM uses the 789 and Delta uses some combination of 767 and A330 and I figured that you have access to the data? Thanks!


Delta is back to only 767-300ERs to Europe from SLC now. The AMS flight was on a 332 for the spring/summer, but is back to the 763 (76Z low-J config) for the fall/winter. CDG is also on a low-J 763, and LHR uses a high-J 763. Not sure how much longer the KLM flight will be going, but I know it's seasonal.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:26 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
I have one more question... do you know what a/c delta uses for SLC-Europe? AMS, CDG, LHR. I know KLM uses the 789 and Delta uses some combination of 767 and A330 and I figured that you have access to the data? Thanks!

SLC-LHR: 763ER-High J
SLC-CDG: 763ER-Low J
SLC-AMS: 763ER-Low J (was 332 last summer 2017 but scheduled to remain 763 summer 2018)


Thank you!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:33 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
I have a question about ATL-SLC-HNL. Isn't the 763 fleet close to the end of retirement? What aircraft will serve that flight after it is retired?

ATL-SLC-HNL is transferring to the 333 effective 10/28


Interestingly, it's showing as a domestic 767-300 for next summer (before this week it was loaded as a 757). Are there any rumors of a 763 or two being converted to domestic configuration, or that the retirement dates of the 76As have been deferred? It seems weird that they'd move back to a 767 on this route after having had it loaded as a 757.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:10 pm

FSDan wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
I have a question about ATL-SLC-HNL. Isn't the 763 fleet close to the end of retirement? What aircraft will serve that flight after it is retired?

ATL-SLC-HNL is transferring to the 333 effective 10/28


Interestingly, it's showing as a domestic 767-300 for next summer (before this week it was loaded as a 757). Are there any rumors of a 763 or two being converted to domestic configuration, or that the retirement dates of the 76As have been deferred? It seems weird that they'd move back to a 767 on this route after having had it loaded as a 757.


If you checked Deltas website, and didn't check the seating chart, it could be the ER variant.
I'm actually quite shocked that Delta doesn't put the actual variant on there. Like they would just put the variant on what aircraft it is. The same goes for the 400ER, they'd leave it as "400" They got the 737-900ER correct on there. Not a big deal but at least put the actual variant on there.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:13 pm

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Are there any rumors of a 763 or two being converted to domestic configuration, or that the retirement dates of the 76As have been deferred? It seems weird that they'd move back to a 767 on this route after having had it loaded as a 757.

I believe the latest "medium-term" plan for the 763ER fleet is to have all the remaining ones be LOW-J frames (76Z). The 14x youngest HIGH-J frames (76L) are being soon converted to LOW-J leaving only old HIGH-J frames which will get retired first once the 339s start arriving. After the first batch of 339 deliveries, you're likely looking at a 763ER fleet consisting of ~27x 76Z (low J) and 7x 76T (high J)

Makes a lot of sense if you ask me as the 339 are most likely coming with the current heavy J 333 configuration so they'll replace HIGH-J 763s. Also allows for less premium routes (Hawaii amongst others) to have a dedicated fleet well into the medium term. And allows for winter leisure routes (CUN/MCO for example) to also have access to a low-J fleet.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:27 pm

After Delta gets a sense how little UA pays for some new 767-300s, I would not be surprised to see Delta get in on the 767 Black Friday Sale too.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:45 pm

Narfish641 wrote:
FSDan wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
ATL-SLC-HNL is transferring to the 333 effective 10/28


Interestingly, it's showing as a domestic 767-300 for next summer (before this week it was loaded as a 757). Are there any rumors of a 763 or two being converted to domestic configuration, or that the retirement dates of the 76As have been deferred? It seems weird that they'd move back to a 767 on this route after having had it loaded as a 757.


If you checked Deltas website, and didn't check the seating chart, it could be the ER variant.


I did check the seatmap, fully expecting it to be a 76Z since there are plenty of 76Zs rotating through HNL. However, it's currently showing 30 F seats in a 2-2-2 configuration.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:01 pm

FSDan wrote:

I did check the seatmap, fully expecting it to be a 76Z since there are plenty of 76Zs rotating through HNL. However, it's currently showing 30 F seats in a 2-2-2 configuration.


That's really strange. Could be a minor glitch?
By the way, does anyone know if they will be converting the current 767s that are stored to a freighter, or to just scrap them? Some of those frames still have a bit of life in them, it could be possible?
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread

Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:22 pm

Do you guys actually think DL will actually buy some new 767's from boeing? I wonder what the pricing would be like.
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