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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:25 pm

None of the beers in the video are black, so I don't think Dublin is one.

Copenhagen, Brussels, Dallas IMO
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:26 pm

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LGW will transfer to LHR


Interesting. CX renumbered the MAN flight to CX216/219 from December 2017 (when it goes daily). LGW did not get similar treatment, so I wonder if this is a sign that what you say is accurate...
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:36 pm

Based on the clues, BRU, CPH, and DUB seem the most likely, but that is a lot of new capacity to one region - and a region under yield pressure, at that - to introduce all at once. However, it would make more sense if, as mentioned above, DUS is indeed being cut, with that capacity allocated to BRU instead. So that would basically just leave CPH and DUB as new additions.

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Boston? Samuel Adams ads claim they win beer tasting contests in Europe fairly often and there are lots of microbreweries in the area too.


That would make sense if CX didn't already serve BOS.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:42 pm

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I would think Seattle is NOT beer related. If anything, I would associate it with Coffee.


That's an old stereotype from the 90s. Seattle proper is home to over 40 craft breweries, with dozens more within the surrounding region. It's absolutely a beer-related destination.
 
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Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:43 pm

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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:45 pm

Apparently it's Copenhagen, Brussels and Dallas. Not sure what Dallas has to do with beer but a leaked memo on another site lists these three
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

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"That would make sense if CX didn't already serve BOS."

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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:53 pm

Dublin would make sense since EI is set to join OneWorld in the not so distant future.
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:32 pm

Helping to aid speculation, here is a list of the world's best beer cities as ranked by Beer Connoisseur: https://www.beerconnoisseur.com/article ... eer-cities

I have to the think that Seattle is in the mix - particularly given the AS feed.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:41 pm

The Dallas area may not have the 70 breweries Portland has. but it has over 40 and growing. In 2016, the list was 40 and I know several more have opened since then. If you get a chance, try Blood and Honey by Revolver Brewing. Whenever I have out of town guests, I have them order it, and then they are hooked and try and get it at home!

Glad to have CX in my city of Dallas, and my second city of HKG (lived there in 2009)!!!

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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:48 pm

The largest single brewery in the world (Miller-Coors) is near DEN. Not a very hip or fashionable brand, but still its the biggest.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:21 pm

I would be surprised if it is Denver although the airport has been on a huge roll recently landing a bunch of new international carriers. After the Westjet intro, they did say to look out for additional international announcements in 2017. . .
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:27 pm

If the capital letter hint is wrong, why not MUC? Lufthansa just added a codeshare with CX in March this year.

CX does not serve MUC.
MUC and beer? Well.....
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:32 pm

raylee67 wrote:
Anyway, if there is a 3rd or 4th new destination, what would those be? Many people in Facebook guessed Copenhagen. I see some saying Vienna and some saying Brussels. Looks like most people are thinking about Europe. Are there any destinations in North America you would think as "beer related"? I would think Seattle is NOT beer related. If anything, I would associate it with Coffee.


Maybe Las Vegas? It is the drinking capital of the world..
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:39 pm

Eirules wrote:
Apparently it's Copenhagen, Brussels and Dallas. Not sure what Dallas has to do with beer but a leaked memo on another site lists these three


Any links to the memo?
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:42 pm

AA flies DFW-HKG, DL SEA-HKG. Forget those.
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:50 pm

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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:55 pm

It says 3 cities, but there seems to be 4 different glasses of beer in the Facebook ad
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:55 pm

jbpdx wrote:
AA flies DFW-HKG, DL SEA-HKG. Forget those.


I wouldn't forget those at all. CX and AA are One World Partners, just like QF serves DFW. I didn't realize that another airline flying a route means that the flagship carrier on one end (HKG) should forget it.

Dallas isn't exactly beer related though. The SEA area has some of the best microbreweries in the worlds, as does PDX. YVR is really upcoming too, although CX already flies there.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:01 pm

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Cathay Pacific announced on its official Facebook page today that it is launching multiple new destinations, and started a competition for people to guess what those destinations are. The clue is that all those destinations are "beer related", with a cartoon video with beer in different colors.

I want to guess St. Louis, MO considering it is the headquarters for Anheuser Busch but St. Louis doesn't make sense at all. Munich, Cologne & Stuttgart all in Germany being the other choices.

Can't think of any other cities unique to beer or related to beer. I would be tempted to pick Boston, MA or Seattle, WA but
- Someone would associate Boston with Harvard/MIT and remind someone more of an educational/nerdy city rather than anything beer related.
- Seattle...someone would associate it with Coffee/Aeorospace(Boeing)/Amazon or launchpad for a cruise trip to Alaska. Beer? I don't think so.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:09 pm

They already fly BOS-HKG.
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:19 pm

How is Cathay Pacific doing in MAN, BCN, DUS, and ZRH? These are the newest routes to Europe for the airline. How is MAN performing? I think I read somewhere that Cathay Pacific was doing well in BCN, and that in the future it may be year round. DUS has been operated for a while now, but I wonder how it is performing. How is ZRH doing?

Otherwise, I think BRU would be a good choice of Cathay Pacific. Also, BRU lacks flights to Asia (they only have PEK, PVG, NRT, and BKK) so another Asian destination would be an good addition to the network. CPH seems like a good route for Cathay Pacific, and it has also been covered on anna.aero so the potential exists for the route to be launched. DUB seems like a good destination, but what about the short runway at DUB? The longest runway is under 9,000 feet which I think wouldn't be enough length for a flight to HKG. Finally, I think MUC would also be a good choice if it happens.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:21 pm

jbpdx wrote:
AA flies DFW-HKG, DL SEA-HKG. Forget those.

I doubt CX would care in either case.

They don't have a j/v with AA, so they're not above competing with them. Can also still place people on the domestic cnnx.

And HKG-SEA would be hub-hub for them, due to partner AS, and allow them to exploit the Asian p.o.s.; whereas DL's operation seems more positioned for the US p.o.s.
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:25 pm

D..... for a country that can't make beer?

Dammam, Saudi Arabia?

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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:36 pm

NichCage wrote:
How is Cathay Pacific doing in MAN, BCN, DUS, and ZRH? These are the newest routes to Europe for the airline. How is MAN performing?


MAN seems to be doing well. It's gone from 4 weekly, to 5 weekly and soon daily year round. They are also changing flight numbers for the route, from CX357/358 to CX216/219 (note the non consecutive numbers despite them being available EI CX216/217 or CX218/219). This means MAN now features in the same flight number range as the 'legacy' Euro routes for CX, and in light of the flight numbers being non consecutive, I'm told CX217/218 have been reserved for a future increase in flights, possibly 10 weekly with an afternoon arrival evening departure into MAN next year.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:42 pm

This is an exiting topic to follow ;-) Hoping for Brussels!
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:08 pm

Brussels would make sense, as I thought it is an underserved city from Asia given its political importance to Europe. However, I think the amount of traffic is probably only suited for an A359 and even then only 4-5x per week. It seems it the other destinations are CPH and DFW based on P P R U N E. And DUS is being dropped, but there's no mention of moving the LGW flight.

With AA already on DFW, I wonder how a second flight from CX would do. My assumption is that given the available connections on the DFW side, the route does fairly well for AA. I doubt CX adding DFW is them trying to get 5th Freedom to serve MEX, GRU, or EZE.

And I'm still not sure why DFW would be 'related to beer' unless they are referring to the Honky-Tonks and drunks on mechanical bulls.
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:30 pm

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And I'm still not sure why DFW would be 'related to beer' unless they are referring to the Honky-Tonks and drunks on mechanical bulls.


More false stereotypes. We have over 40 local breweries and growing. We don't wear cowboy hats and we don't drive cars with longhorns on the front.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:40 pm

mfe777 wrote:
hz747300 wrote:

And I'm still not sure why DFW would be 'related to beer' unless they are referring to the Honky-Tonks and drunks on mechanical bulls.


More false stereotypes. We have over 40 local breweries and growing. We don't wear cowboy hats and we don't drive cars with longhorns on the front.


Fair enough but I really don't think Dallas is known the world over for its local breweries.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:42 pm

Brussels, Copenhagen and Dallas Forth Worth
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:54 pm

I think Dallas is far more likely than Dublin.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:00 am

jbpdx wrote:
But they already fly to Copenhagen.

No they don't.
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:08 am

ClipperYankee wrote:
Boston? Samuel Adams ads claim they win beer tasting contests in Europe fairly often and there are lots of microbreweries in the area too.

CX already flies to BOS with daily 77H service.

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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:10 am

ClipperYankee wrote:
Boston? Samuel Adams ads claim they win beer tasting contests in Europe fairly often and there are lots of microbreweries in the area too.


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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:24 am

hz747300 wrote:

And I'm still not sure why DFW would be 'related to beer' unless they are referring to the Honky-Tonks and drunks on mechanical bulls.


Outside of local breweries and the Miller Brewery in Ft. Worth, DFW (and quite a bit of the south) is known for "hold my beer, watch this!"
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:27 am

RL777 wrote:
I think Dallas is far more likely than Dublin.


Given the hint by marketing with a beer related theme with the three cities, I can see a relationship with

CPH - Carlsberg and Tuborg world famous beers. BRU is know for Trappist, Dubbel, Oud bruin, Tripel beers worldwide. DUB has world famous Stout and Irish red ale beers.

I cannot see the connection with DFW and beer.
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:32 am

raylee67 wrote:
Cathay Pacific announced on its official Facebook page today that it is launching multiple new destinations, and started a competition for people to guess what those destinations are. The clue is that all those destinations are "beer related", with a cartoon video with beer in different colors.

https://www.facebook.com/cathaypacificHK/

Quote from the Facebook post:

Guess our new destinations by the different coloured beers and win!

We’re excited to be adding a number of new destinations to our international network. But can you guess which ones, based on the different coloured beers in this video?



It seems to me that it is something massive. By saying "a number of new destinations", I have to believe that there are 3 or even 4 in play here. And by launching an online guessing game that starts on Aug 29 and ends on Aug 31, their announcements would be imminent (probably as early as Aug 31!!)

So where will they be?

My guess is Munich and Dublin. Munich is obvious (beer related) and it makes sense with the A359. Dublin would not have made sense without Brexit. But since the Brexit decision, many banks (including JPMorgan and Citi, etc.) have announced massive movement of financial jobs (in the thousands) from London to Dublin. I have to believe that a lot of the high yield traffic between HKG and LHR are filled by bankers and at least some of those are switching to DUB. It would now not be a dream to fill a daily HKG-DUB flight with 30+ business class seats on a A359. London flights will probably be maintained to hold onto the lucrative LHR slots and there will still be sufficient demands for LHR-HKG. May be some of the 77W LHR flights will be downgauged to A359 after Brexit settles. Some other banks have also announced movement of banking jobs to Paris (HSBC) and Frankfurt (Morgan Stanley) so it will be interesting to see whether CX will react and increase service to CDG and FRA after 2019.

Anyway, if there is a 3rd or 4th new destination, what would those be? Many people in Facebook guessed Copenhagen. I see some saying Vienna and some saying Brussels. Looks like most people are thinking about Europe. Are there any destinations in North America you would think as "beer related"? I would think Seattle is NOT beer related. If anything, I would associate it with Coffee.


Seattle is DEFINITELY beer-related. Got quite a few micro-breweries. Yes, it's the coffee capital of the USA......but also is a city into beer.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:37 am

Dallas/Seattle are beer famous? Maybe in their own backyard.
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:46 am

Dare I say "Bremen" for the "B" city? Home of Beck's. And it is a city that has been a bit overlooked. Cologne, which had been ignored, recently got a bunch of long-haul flights on Eurowings. But the question is "can BRE can handle a wide-body?"


"D"--- Denver or Dublin. Don't think it would be Dortmund, another city synonymous with beer.

"C"--- 90%+ chance it is CPH.......CLT is a OneWorld hub, but is not really known for beer.........
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:57 am

coolian2 wrote:
Dallas/Seattle are beer famous? Maybe in their own backyard.


Do you really have any idea of that? The state of Washington has like 150 breweries and most are good. Seattle most certainly is known for beer.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:07 am

hz747300 wrote:
Brussels would make sense, as I thought it is an underserved city from Asia given its political importance to Europe. However, I think the amount of traffic is probably only suited for an A359 and even then only 4-5x per week. It seems it the other destinations are CPH and DFW based on P P R U N E. And DUS is being dropped, but there's no mention of moving the LGW flight.

With AA already on DFW, I wonder how a second flight from CX would do. My assumption is that given the available connections on the DFW side, the route does fairly well for AA. I doubt CX adding DFW is them trying to get 5th Freedom to serve MEX, GRU, or EZE.

And I'm still not sure why DFW would be 'related to beer' unless they are referring to the Honky-Tonks and drunks on mechanical bulls.


It's never been honky tonks and drunks on mechanical bulls in DFW (despite Billy Bob's). It's more like Mambo Taxis and drunks on designer high heels.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:15 am

zeke wrote:
RL777 wrote:
I think Dallas is far more likely than Dublin.


Given the hint by marketing with a beer related theme with the three cities, I can see a relationship with

CPH - Carlsberg and Tuborg world famous beers. BRU is know for Trappist, Dubbel, Oud bruin, Tripel beers worldwide. DUB has world famous Stout and Irish red ale beers.

I cannot see the connection with DFW and beer.


I agree fully with you if we're solely basing it off the marketing hint, however I'm having a tough time seeing the business case for DUB.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:47 am

So CX is adding 3 cities and dropping 3 cities.
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:50 am

Freshside3 wrote:
Dare I say "Bremen" for the "B" city? Home of Beck's. And it is a city that has been a bit overlooked. Cologne, which had been ignored, recently got a bunch of long-haul flights on Eurowings. But the question is "can BRE can handle a wide-body?"


"D"--- Denver or Dublin. Don't think it would be Dortmund, another city synonymous with beer.

"C"--- 90%+ chance it is CPH.......CLT is a OneWorld hub, but is not really known for beer.........

B) Bremen is so far from a stretch. It is a quite small city, not known for its connections to Asia or strong international business, right?
D) Denver's Asian population is there, but are there any business ties of reason for the flight? I see Dublin more, especially after some financial groups have moved from London.
C) What are you talking about? We have plenty of good beer here near Charlotte :) (nothing all that special I'm kidding) This route has to go to Copenhagen, and most of the connections that CX could offer through CLT could be done through ORD, DFW except some in the Southeast.
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:32 am

It's only a dream, but I wish Minneapolis/ St.Paul (MSP) was in the running. There are some good breweries in Minnesota!
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:58 am

Ferryflight wrote:
If the capital letter hint is wrong, why not MUC? Lufthansa just added a codeshare with CX in March this year.

CX does not serve MUC.
MUC and beer? Well.....


The most logical choice, as its the only major gateway in Europe to which CX does not have a flight to, despite key competitors such as Air China, Thai or SQ all flying to MUC at least daily. And then there's the new codeshare agreement with LH as well!

However it's been debunked by the CX Secrets forum that MUC will not be a possible. There's also rumors that DUS will be dropped, leaving CX with only 1 daily flight to FRA
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:25 am

From what I hear the 3 cities being dropped are DUS, DPS and PEK, with DPS and PEK transferred to KA.
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:11 am

hongkongflyer wrote:
itisi wrote:
1: B....
2: C....
3: D.... (this country can't make beer!!)


People said it is DFW,,,,,

By the way, PEK and DPS will be transfer to KA and LGW will transfer to LHR,

LGW route going to LHR ? That's terrible for the SE England business community. When's that supposed to take effect from ?
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:28 am

Ok, news is CX will terminate 3 destinations and add 3 new ones.

- Destinations being terminated are 1 in China, 1 in SE Asia and 1 in Europe.

- 3 New Destinations are Bxxxxxxx, Cxxxxxxxxx and Dxxxxx.

Let the speculation begin!

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Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent UPDATE: CX announces HKG-DUB, HKG-BRU and HKG-CPH

Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:46 am

YLWbased wrote:
Ok, news is CX will terminate 3 destinations and add 3 new ones.

- Destinations being terminated are 1 in China, 1 in SE Asia and 1 in Europe.

- 3 New Destinations are Bxxxxxxx, Cxxxxxxxxx and Dxxxxx.

Let the speculation begin!

YLWbased


Bellow are all cities that match the number of letters, have a population of more than 100K and make a little sense:

For B:
BUDAPEST
BRUSSELS
BRASILIA
BORDEAUX

For C:
CHITTAGONG
COPENHAGEN

FOR D:
DARWIN
DUBLIN
DURBAN
DALLAS
DENVER


I'm betting on Brussels, Copenhagen and Dublin.
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