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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:58 am

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Photo of next NZ 789 in the hangar at CHS

The Air NZ 787-9 between the AA 787-9 and the SQ 787-10 is L/N 624 ZK-NZM due in November. The next Air NZ 787-9 is L/N 607 ZK-NZL which should have been in the Charleston paint hangar.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:25 am

Looks like MH may not have ruled out AKL A350 ops completely at this point in contrast to earlier articles, decision expected in October. Their CEO is also hoping the unified schedule may help improve the airline's attractiveness.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:47 am

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Zkpilot wrote:
Surprised nobody has mentioned that Luxon has said NZ will be looking to fly to NYC and/or ORD in the next few years when they get either the A350 or the 77X.


Not many websites picked up the news.

Air New Zealand eyes New York direct with new widebodies


Does this start to signify a relaxation of the "Pacific rim" strategy - without moving away from no more one stop routes but evolving to reflect the longer economical range of the new generation of big twin jets?
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:13 am

@DobboDobbo

I think it signifies a continuation of the long-haul non-stop policy (except for LHR) previously articulated as Pacific rim. The difference is that aircraft performance has extended the non-stop commercial reality beyond this.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:33 am

CZ will operate to CHC on a daily basis between 2 Dec 17 and 26 Feb 18

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... e-in-nw17/
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:42 am

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@DobboDobbo

I think it signifies a continuation of the long-haul non-stop policy (except for LHR) previously articulated as Pacific rim. The difference is that aircraft performance has extended the non-stop commercial reality beyond this.


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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:39 pm

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Any deliveries for NZ, VA or TN scheduled for October? I'm looking into visiting Seattle in October


From memory the last 738 on order for VA was due to be delivered this month. The first TN 789 is Sep 2018, and Air NZ 789s ZK-NZL and ZK-NZM due for delivery in Oct and Nov 2017 are being assembled in Charleston. You could see a QF 789 at Everett.

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An Australian forum says VH-YWD, the last VA 738 on order, will be delivered in November. The second to last VA 738 VH-YWA is presently on it's delivery flight. Registrations VH-YWB and VH-YWC were already in use on light aircraft.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:33 pm

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Air NZ's Q300 ZK-NEM is AKL-NLK-BNE-TSV today as SXI1730 for a repaint. I expected NEC to be next as NEA and NEB were the last two.

It looks like ZK-NEM will be getting an all black paint job. There's a photo of it at BNE with a black nose cone and black protective strip by the prop.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] ... ed-public/

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:46 pm

PA515 wrote:
PA515 wrote:
Air NZ's Q300 ZK-NEM is AKL-NLK-BNE-TSV today as SXI1730 for a repaint. I expected NEC to be next as NEA and NEB were the last two.

It looks like ZK-NEM will be getting an all black paint job. There's a photo of it at BNE with a black nose cone and black protective strip by the prop.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] ... ed-public/

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Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:48 am

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:51 am

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news ... d=11923035

Rob Fyfe to join Air Canada board.

I wonder if we will see them launch AKL sometime, possibly a seasonal service to start?
 
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Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:14 am

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11923035

Rob Fyfe to join Air Canada board.

I wonder if we will see them launch AKL sometime, possibly a seasonal service to start?

Hopefully he can affect change their as they are one of the most difficult airlines to deal with and have very average service to begin with.
Doubt that AC will want to piss NZ off. Maybe YYC or YYZ if they get aircraft with the range.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:20 am

Zkpilot wrote:
ZK-NBT wrote:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11923035

Rob Fyfe to join Air Canada board.

I wonder if we will see them launch AKL sometime, possibly a seasonal service to start?

Hopefully he can affect change their as they are one of the most difficult airlines to deal with and have very average service to begin with.
Doubt that AC will want to piss NZ off. Maybe YYC or YYZ if they get aircraft with the range.


I'm not sure I would see AC flying to AKL from YYZ or YYC, it really imo depends weather NZ want to go beyond daily in the peak season, and capacity will drop at some point when/if they go 789, I'm aware they have an 8th flight for 2 weeks this year in JAN. They applied for a JV a few years back, so the carriers would be working together.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:50 am

ZK-NBT wrote:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11923035

Rob Fyfe to join Air Canada board.

I wonder if we will see them launch AKL sometime, possibly a seasonal service to start?


Rob is a very good friend of AC CEO Calin Rovinescu who also succeeded him as the Chairman of Star Alliance. Perhaps we shouldn't read too much into it.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:10 am

xiaotung wrote:
ZK-NBT wrote:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11923035

Rob Fyfe to join Air Canada board.

I wonder if we will see them launch AKL sometime, possibly a seasonal service to start?


Rob is a very good friend of AC CEO Calin Rovinescu who also succeeded him as the Chairman of Star Alliance. Perhaps we shouldn't read too much into it.



I'm not really reading to much into it, AC have added BNE while MEL starts soon initially seasonal but has since been announced to go year round, NZ are increasing YVR, is the opportunity for AC to add AKL? At least seasonal in conjunction with NZ?
 
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Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:23 am

ZK-NBT wrote:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11923035

Rob Fyfe to join Air Canada board.

I wonder if we will see them launch AKL sometime, possibly a seasonal service to start?


Or help bridge an deeper relationship with NZ, could work well with AC now having SYD,MEL,BNE-YVR and NZ having AKL-YVR being able to make better use of selling triangle tickets e.g. YVR-AKL-MEL-YVR etc.

Canada is an market ex-NZ that is only starting to be tapped into, the exchange rate mates it an great option over the US currently. Canada is much more similar to New Zealand (Apart from snow in Winter).
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:12 am

Jet fuel availability at AKL causes cancellations and delays.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=11923141
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:33 am

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Jet fuel availability at AKL causes cancellations and delays.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=11923141

QR have obviously trucked it in by road tanker because it left direct for DOH. They have the luxury of a very long layover because this is a very slow process.
CZ336 was AKL-BNE-CAN this am too, HX21/22 holds OOL and KE129/130 tomorrow holds NAN and CA 784 SYD I believe. Airlines are choosing online ports in their network, so naturally, they don't all want to go via one port because there are fuel delays waiting for scheduled services.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:30 am

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Karlos wrote:
Jet fuel availability at AKL causes cancellations and delays.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=11923141

QR have obviously trucked it in by road tanker because it left direct for DOH. They have the luxury of a very long layover because this is a very slow process.
CZ336 was AKL-BNE-CAN this am too, HX21/22 holds OOL and KE129/130 tomorrow holds NAN and CA 784 SYD I believe. Airlines are choosing online ports in their network, so naturally, they don't all want to go via one port because there are fuel delays waiting for scheduled services.

I read somewhere that the airport tanks were half full, so QR could be from that.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:35 am

For those who haven't seen it, there's a thread dedicated to the fuel issue:

Auckland Airport Fuel Shortage - Resulting in diversions and cancellations

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:02 am

Is this not a tad embarrassing. When have we heard of a major international airport as AKL are all too often ready to present themselves as running out of fuel and causing this sort of mayhem. Anyhow I accept that this will be in another thread.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:06 am

On another note, what is the international line up at CHC this summer? Is it:

CZ - 788 daily
EK - A388 daily
CI - A333 4x weekly via ?
SQ - 772 daily
FJ ? 738
VA ? 738
QF ? 738
Anything missing?
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:53 pm

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On another note, what is the international line up at CHC this summer? Is it:

CZ - 788 daily
EK - A388 daily
CI - A333 4x weekly via ?
SQ - 772 daily
FJ ? 738
VA ? 738
QF ? 738
Anything missing?


CX A350 3x weekly
NZ 789 for PER
Potentially OZ 772 if their charters were to go ahead

CI is via MEL
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:54 pm

HA upping AKL to 5/weekly from March 2018, possibility of daily at some point should demand increase further. Good to see another carrier growing slowly.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news ... d=11923233
 
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Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:31 am

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On another note, what is the international line up at CHC this summer? Is it:

CZ - 788 daily
EK - A388 daily
CI - A333 4x weekly via ?
SQ - 772 daily
FJ ? 738
VA ? 738
QF ? 738
Anything missing?


http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/9076 ... ristchurch

SQ is 10x weekly from 30 NOV to 16 FEB
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:02 am

I just received notification that my AKL-DOH has been rescheduled to depart 12:55 tomorrow via MEL. Bugger, I hate transiting Australia, the Security staff are always such arrogant pricks even compared to the TSA. At least it is MEL, not SYD I guess.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:47 am

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I just received notification that my AKL-DOH has been rescheduled to depart 12:55 tomorrow via MEL. Bugger, I hate transiting Australia, the Security staff are always such arrogant pricks even compared to the TSA. At least it is MEL, not SYD I guess.

Are you going to have to get off the aircraft, as it is just refuelling? I wouldn't expect so.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:42 am

I think all passengers will be deplaned. But curious to know the answer. MH AKL-KUL stopped in MEL today. Curious to know the answer to that one too.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:47 am

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I think all passengers will be deplaned. But curious to know the answer. MH AKL-KUL stopped in MEL today. Curious to know the answer to that one too.

I've had an experience of needing a fuel stop once (SIN-CDG had to divert to FRA due to a strike in France). We remained on the aircraft. So it is doable. Whether it will be done here, I guess we will hear soon from aerorobnz.

Deplaning in Australia could pose issues - Australia has a transit visa requirement which people might not have sorted for a short notice change like this.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:35 pm

Air NZ ATR 72-600 ZK-MVQ enters service on Wednesday morning and it appears ATR 72-500 ZK-MCW will have it's last flight AKL-NSN tonight.

ZK-MCW is still advertised for sale. If you click on '2000 ATR ATR72' quite a bit of detail comes up.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:23 pm

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Is this not a tad embarrassing. When have we heard of a major international airport as AKL are all too often ready to present themselves as running out of fuel and causing this sort of mayhem. Anyhow I accept that this will be in another thread.


Melbourne suffered from fuel contamination issues about 6 months ago, severely disrupting operations. My understanding of that issue is that MEL has half the fuel storage capacity due to long term underinvestment and didn't have the redundancy in place when the contamination issue hit.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:47 pm

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it appears ATR 72-500 ZK-MCW will have it's last flight AKL-NSN tonight.

Looks like I spoke too soon. ZK-MCW is now showing a NSN-AKL on Wednesday evening.

According to http://nyc787.blogspot.com '787 Production Tables' the delivery dates for ZK-NZL and ZK-NZM have been brought forward.
L/N 607 ZK-NZL is now 05 Oct (was 12 Oct)
L/N 624 ZK-NZM is now 01 Nov (was 14 Nov)

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:09 am

Air New Zealand's next 789 ZK-NZL has undergone its first test flight at CHS

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https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 5089973248
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:43 am

PA515 wrote:
PA515 wrote:
it appears ATR 72-500 ZK-MCW will have it's last flight AKL-NSN tonight.

Looks like I spoke too soon. ZK-MCW is now showing a NSN-AKL on Wednesday evening.

She is around a few more months still.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:33 am

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/970095 ... t.97009580

Anybody know when the 777 is coming in?
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:40 am

dhaliwal wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/97009580/air-new-zealand-refueling-long-haul-planes-in-wellington-as-auckland-jet-fuel-crisis-deepens?cid=facebook.post.97009580

Anybody know when the 777 is coming in?


Maybe WIAL can use that as an argument for extending the runway. :p
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:22 am

Mr AirNZ wrote:
PA515 wrote:
PA515 wrote:
it appears ATR 72-500 ZK-MCW will have it's last flight AKL-NSN tonight.

Looks like I spoke too soon. ZK-MCW is now showing a NSN-AKL on Wednesday evening.

She is around a few more months still.


Thanks. Can you say when ZK-MVR and ZK-MVS are arriving? I thought maybe Dec-Feb.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:53 am

What is the anticipated first delivery date for NZ's first A321Neo? I know they have been deferred considering the problems with PW engine. Any update?
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Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:11 am

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What is the anticipated first delivery date for NZ's first A321Neo? I know they have been deferred considering the problems with PW engine. Any update?


The first A320NEO delivery is Jul 2018 and the first A321NEO is Sep 2018. Ten NEO aircraft to be delivered in FY 2019 and three in FY 2020. Slides 61 and 62 of the 01 June 2017 Investor Day Analyst Presentation
http://p-airnz.com/cms/assets/PDFs/airn ... tation.pdf

The 2017 Annual Financial Results said four A321NEOS and nine A320NEOs.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:25 am

ANZ haven't quietly started CHC/BHE again have they? Sitting in Blenheim having lunch and saw NZ972, an ATR coming in to land. FlightAware shows it's from CHC, but the 972 looks like it may be a relocating flight?
 
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Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:17 am

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ANZ haven't quietly started CHC/BHE again have they? Sitting in Blenheim having lunch and saw NZ972, an ATR coming in to land. FlightAware shows it's from CHC, but the 972 looks like it may be a relocating flight?


It's ZK-MVL and it's now BHE-CHC as NZ5953. The NZ59** does indicate a positioning flight. Could be uplifting fuel from BHE.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:55 am

The NZ Herald is saying tonight's AKL-EZE 789 (ZK-NZF) will pick up fuel in WLG and return to AKL before departing to EZE.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news ... d=11924385

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Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:36 am

ZK-NZF about 25 mins from WLG as NZ6237.

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Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:30 pm

For those interested, we stayed onboard in MEL, and QR changed the crew over to new crew, we refuelled and departed. I was fortunate to have a block of 3 seats to myself for the flight.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:57 pm

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For those interested, we stayed onboard in MEL, and QR changed the crew over to new crew, we refuelled and departed. I was fortunate to have a block of 3 seats to myself for the flight.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:01 pm

NPL8800 wrote:
NZ321 wrote:
On another note, what is the international line up at CHC this summer? Is it:

CZ - 788 daily
EK - A388 daily
CI - A333 4x weekly via ?
SQ - 772 daily
FJ ? 738
VA ? 738
QF ? 738
Anything missing?


CX A350 3x weekly
NZ 789 for PER
Potentially OZ 772 if their charters were to go ahead

CI is via MEL


Is CI def confirmed for this summer? So far I have seen nothing in the media about them returning to CHC. They did confirm daily AKL flights but made no mention about CHC. It would be nice to see them again do MEL-CHC.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:12 pm

Anybody know why there is a qantas 747-400 at AKL today? I thought QF only sent A330s on their daily runs to NZ. I couldn't make out the registration of the 747.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:23 pm

dhaliwal wrote:
Anybody know why there is a qantas 747-400 at AKL today? I thought QF only sent A330s on their daily runs to NZ. I couldn't make out the registration of the 747.

Due to the fuel situation.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:28 pm

Got it. Wow 747 to the rescue by transporting fuel for qf and jetstar fleet.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:45 am

dhaliwal wrote:
Anybody know why there is a qantas 747-400 at AKL today? I thought QF only sent A330s on their daily runs to NZ. I couldn't make out the registration of the 747.

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