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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:31 am

CZ SYD changes for NW17/18 08NOV17 – 30NOV17 Reduce from 14 to 13 weekly (CZ301/302 Day x3)
01DEC17 – 10DEC17 Reduce from 14 to 13 weekly (CZ301/302 Day x1; 20 weekly from 09DEC17)
06MAR18 – 24MAR18 Reduce from 14 to 13 weekly (CZ301/302 Day x2)

CZ601/602 operates 09DEC17 – 28FEB18 from CAN.
CZ325/326 operated by A380 instead of A330 01DEC17 – 28FEB18 from CAN.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... y-changes/
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:40 am

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VH-OQJ returned to DXB on Wednesday due to a pressurisation issue

http://theqantassource.com/qantas-a380- ... al-return/


With DXB temperatures exceeding 50 degrees on the tarmac the dispatch reliability ex-DXB does not surprise me. The move back to SIN couldn't come any sooner!

EK413

If the temperatures affect dispatch reliability as often as it seems QF is affected in DXB, then why is EKs operation not crippled by aircraft failing in the heat.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:34 pm

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UA to start IAH-SYD from 18 Jan 18, first SYD departure 20 Jan

UA101 IAH2000-630+2SYD 789 D
UA100 SYD1150-1035IAH 789 D

http://newsroom.united.com/2017-09-07-U ... and-Sydney


Stunned by this one! As I posted in the other thread fully expected SFO-MEL first, kudos to UA for holding their own in AU with no star feed, NZ won't be impressed!


I'm not surprised. UA would have a good knowledge of how NZ is doing on IAH-AKL and reasonable knowledge of QF's DFW service. IAH is the only key business market for QF that it doesn't serve and probably never will due to the UA hub so for UA to jump in makes complete sense to me. Moreso given what they've done on LAX & SFO to SIN as it appears UA is determined to push the 787 to its limit.

I hate to say it but people need to give up on a MEL-SFO route. I just can't see it happening.


I don't agree.

MEL-SFO is a market that will happen at some stage. The size of the tech industry in MEL is significant and has seen some big Silicon Valley companies open Regional HQ's in this city lately. That will drive demand, but will likely take some time to build scale.

The focus on SYD-US is certainly a big disadvantage for MEL and BNE. I can understand how the scale of business and tourism help to bring that level of service to SYD, but at the end of the day those airlines do need other markets to fill those planes. That's why a singular focus seems to be their most efficient use of airline resources, rather than a clear picture of demand into other markets.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:26 pm

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QF commences codeshare with El Al (LY) from 12 Sept...on flights via BKK, HKG and JNB...isn't going via JNB quite a detour or is it one of the quickest options between SYD and TLV...since the ME3 carriers obviously don't serve TLV.


For a lot of Israelis quick isn't the primary issue - they're more concerned with safety.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:31 am

skyhawkmatthew wrote:
grjplanes wrote:
QF commences codeshare with El Al (LY) from 12 Sept...on flights via BKK, HKG and JNB...isn't going via JNB quite a detour or is it one of the quickest options between SYD and TLV...since the ME3 carriers obviously don't serve TLV.


Most days the LY flight to TLV leaves HKG before the QF flights arrive; maybe it's a better connection through JNB.

(Or, of course, passengers could just connect with oneworld from the QF flight onto the late night CX departure...)

Both BKK-TLV and JNB-TLV on LY leaves after QF arrives - BKK one leaves at 0010 (QF arrives at 1640) and JNB ones leaves either at 2005 (Day 1,4) or 2135 (Day 6; QF arrives at 1700).

Surprisingly it looks like JNB indeed has the shortest connection time outbound; but for inbound that title belongs to BKK. And the overall travel time when connecting at JNB is 26:35, not too bad I would say, although certainly not good enough.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:56 am

IndianicWorld wrote:
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smi0006 wrote:
[twoid][/twoid]

Stunned by this one! As I posted in the other thread fully expected SFO-MEL first, kudos to UA for holding their own in AU with no star feed, NZ won't be impressed!


I'm not surprised. UA would have a good knowledge of how NZ is doing on IAH-AKL and reasonable knowledge of QF's DFW service. IAH is the only key business market for QF that it doesn't serve and probably never will due to the UA hub so for UA to jump in makes complete sense to me. Moreso given what they've done on LAX & SFO to SIN as it appears UA is determined to push the 787 to its limit.

I hate to say it but people need to give up on a MEL-SFO route. I just can't see it happening.


I don't agree.

MEL-SFO is a market that will happen at some stage. The size of the tech industry in MEL is significant and has seen some big Silicon Valley companies open Regional HQ's in this city lately. That will drive demand, but will likely take some time to build scale.

The focus on SYD-US is certainly a big disadvantage for MEL and BNE. I can understand how the scale of business and tourism help to bring that level of service to SYD, but at the end of the day those airlines do need other markets to fill those planes. That's why a singular focus seems to be their most efficient use of airline resources, rather than a clear picture of demand into other markets.


I agree, I think there is still more room for diversification of AU-US routes, as more airlines receive 787s we've seen routes right sized, and go non-stop, I don't see this trend ending in the next few years as more 789, and A350 are delivered on both sides of the Pacific and Tasman. Equally Australia is doing well as a broader market and still growing. And carriers seem increasingly keen to push the limits on their 789.

Just look at the new continental American routes into AU, most of which are long and thin;
AC - BNE & MEL
UA - MEL-LAX nonstop
UA/AA - AKL (adjusted to seasonally)
UA - IAH
LA- MEL
NZ - EZE/IAH (right sized to 789)
QF haven't received theirs yet, nor have UA,AA, or DL received their 789/350s.

On a seperate note hear rumour QF will announce new lounges for SYD/MEL the coming months with the project team already set up- SYD will take 18months followed by MEL.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:59 am

a320fan wrote:
EK413 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
VH-OQJ returned to DXB on Wednesday due to a pressurisation issue

http://theqantassource.com/qantas-a380- ... al-return/


With DXB temperatures exceeding 50 degrees on the tarmac the dispatch reliability ex-DXB does not surprise me. The move back to SIN couldn't come any sooner!

EK413

If the temperatures affect dispatch reliability as often as it seems QF is affected in DXB, then why is EKs operation not crippled by aircraft failing in the heat.


The wx conditions and tight A380 schedule have dampen the DXB services. From what I heard logistics and engineering support in DXB is fantastic, unfortunately the wx conditions don't work in QFs favour. Not to mention slot constraints during the peak waves.
EK A380's are EA powered & a source told me they operate the RR sub fleet on short sectors. Emirates even experienced technical issues with their 1st aircraft.

https://www.thenational.ae/business/emi ... d-1.224231

Anyhow, the move back to SIN is a smart move from a recovery perspective. Within close range of all Australian ports.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:51 am

SriLankan will use A333 on inaugural flight to MEL, flights after that will see A332

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-08sep17/
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:13 am

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IndianicWorld wrote:
Sydscott wrote:

I'm not surprised. UA would have a good knowledge of how NZ is doing on IAH-AKL and reasonable knowledge of QF's DFW service. IAH is the only key business market for QF that it doesn't serve and probably never will due to the UA hub so for UA to jump in makes complete sense to me. Moreso given what they've done on LAX & SFO to SIN as it appears UA is determined to push the 787 to its limit.

I hate to say it but people need to give up on a MEL-SFO route. I just can't see it happening.


I don't agree.

MEL-SFO is a market that will happen at some stage. The size of the tech industry in MEL is significant and has seen some big Silicon Valley companies open Regional HQ's in this city lately. That will drive demand, but will likely take some time to build scale.

The focus on SYD-US is certainly a big disadvantage for MEL and BNE. I can understand how the scale of business and tourism help to bring that level of service to SYD, but at the end of the day those airlines do need other markets to fill those planes. That's why a singular focus seems to be their most efficient use of airline resources, rather than a clear picture of demand into other markets.


I agree, I think there is still more room for diversification of AU-US routes, as more airlines receive 787s we've seen routes right sized, and go non-stop, I don't see this trend ending in the next few years as more 789, and A350 are delivered on both sides of the Pacific and Tasman. Equally Australia is doing well as a broader market and still growing. And carriers seem increasingly keen to push the limits on their 789.

Just look at the new continental American routes into AU, most of which are long and thin;
AC - BNE & MEL
UA - MEL-LAX nonstop
UA/AA - AKL (adjusted to seasonally)
UA - IAH
LA- MEL
NZ - EZE/IAH (right sized to 789)
QF haven't received theirs yet, nor have UA,AA, or DL received their 789/350s.

On a seperate note hear rumour QF will announce new lounges for SYD/MEL the coming months with the project team already set up- SYD will take 18months followed by MEL.

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A few points in response in relation to MEL-SFO;

- By their very nature Tech Companies rely much more on modern communications than other industries both from a collaboration point of view and a workplace point of view. That reduces the need for tech company people to travel;
- Regional HQ's = regional flights. The tech Companies setting up their "regional" Headquarters here also have operations in places like Singapore where their technical and R&D support happens. So the need for flights between these centres is there. But the need for a flight to Headquarters is less so because, again, by their nature they embrace different forms of collaboration than other workplaces;
- SYD & SFO are both financial Centres. There's a reason why there are so few International flights at SJC compared to SFO and it is due to the nature of the markets being served. The Bankers and Financiers of tech Companies need to fly in order to do deals. The Tech Companies themselves don't need to fly in order to do their everyday work;
- In relation to QF receiving more 789's we know where the next batch is going and that's to BNE. I'd say BNE-DFW and MEL-DFW along with year round Vancouver are far more likely on QF than MEL-SFO;
- Neither DL nor AA have a hub at SFO so they won't be adding long haul routes to there so that leaves UA.
- UA has delayed its A350's entry into service while increasing the order count to 45. It has 74 772/200ER aircraft it needs to start replacing in the early 2020's so I doubt you'll see A350's flying South. For the 787 UA is only taking 5 789's in 2017 which are all delivered. In 2018 UA is only taking 2 789's and their first 787-10 so their probably isn't the aircraft to support another new long range route outside of IAH-SYD. If UA wanted to start MEL-SFO it would have already done so but has instead used the 787 on secondary China, LAX/SFO - SIN and IAH-SYD. That gives you an idea of where UA's priorities are and, as with QF, I'd say there is a better chance of IAH-MEL on UA than there is SFO-MEL.

So while I admire the zeal for MEL-SFO, I think UA would have already done it if they were going to.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:29 am

MU adjusts both MEL and SYD-PVG 77W schedule from 4 weekly to daily from 8 Dec 17 to 10 Mar 18

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-07sep17/
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:43 am

JQ TSV-DPS flights not performing up to expectations- no surprise given the current economic conditions in TSV. JQ threatening to cut the route early next year- suspect looking for a local govt. subsidy, but doubt that would past the pub test in present environment.
 
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Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:01 am

eta unknown wrote:
JQ TSV-DPS flights not performing up to expectations- no surprise given the current economic conditions in TSV. JQ threatening to cut the route early next year- suspect looking for a local govt. subsidy, but doubt that would past the pub test in present environment.


An announcement is expected tomorrow with flights to end 21 March 18

Jetstar is expected to announce the cancellation of all flights between Townsville and Bali tomorrow.
It comes after a crisis meeting was held today between various stakeholders including Qantas and Jetstar.
The Bulletin understands the airline will make the announcement tomorrow with the flights to end March 21 next year.


TSV airport has already released a statement

Townsville Airport released a statement this afternoon confirming Jetstar would cease direct Townsville-Bali services from March next year.
Townsville Airport chief operating officer Kevin Gill said the airport was disappointed to learn of the decision.
“This was a commercial decision made by Jetstar and we respect that decision,” Mr Gill said.
“We are of course extremely disappointed the service will cease, our team has worked very hard to drive demand on the service since its commencement in September 2015.


http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/ne ... 3896607e92
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:39 am

eta unknown wrote:
JQ TSV-DPS flights not performing up to expectations- no surprise given the current economic conditions in TSV. JQ threatening to cut the route early next year- suspect looking for a local govt. subsidy, but doubt that would past the pub test in present environment.


Interesting that a population centre that size can't support a 3 x week service with an A322.
I didn't realise economic conditions had got that bad.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:19 pm

LionelHutz wrote:
eta unknown wrote:
JQ TSV-DPS flights not performing up to expectations- no surprise given the current economic conditions in TSV. JQ threatening to cut the route early next year- suspect looking for a local govt. subsidy, but doubt that would past the pub test in present environment.


Interesting that a population centre that size can't support a 3 x week service with an A322.
I didn't realise economic conditions had got that bad.


Its a lot to do with the fact that Jetstar makes its money by selling extras i.e. food and drinks. coming back from DPS-TSV leaving at 1am local time, not that many people are normally wanting to buy stuff on board
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:41 pm

QF Fleet update as of 11 Sep 17

A332

VH-EBA (28J/243Y – Cradle Mountain) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBB (28J/243Y – Albany) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBC (28J/243Y – Surfers Paradise) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBD (28J/243Y – Tralalgon) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBE (28J/243Y – Kangaroo Valley) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBF (28J/243Y – King Valley) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBG (36J/199Y – Barossa Valley) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBJ (28J/243Y – Margaret River) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBK (28J/243Y – Savannah Way) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBL (36J/199Y – Whitsundays) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBM (28J/243Y – Tamar Valley) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBN (28J/243Y – Clare Valley) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBO (28J/243Y – Kimberley) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBP (28J/243Y – Ningaloo Reef) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBQ (28J/243Y – Wolgan Valley) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBR (28J/243Y – Lockyer Valley) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBS (28J/243Y – Swan Valley) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-EBV (28j/243Y – Kangaroo Island) Qantas 2007 Livery/Oneworld

A333

VH-QPA (28J/269Y – Kununnurra) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-QPB (28J/269Y – Tennant Creek) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-QPC (28J/269Y – Broken Hill) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-QPD (28J/269Y – Port Macquarie) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-QPE (28J/269Y – Port Lincoln) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-QPF (28J/269Y – Esperance) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-QPG (28J/269Y – Mt Gambier) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-QPH (28J/269Y – Noosa) Qantas Silveroo Livery
VH-QPI (28J/269Y – Cairns) Qantas Silveroo Livery
VH-QPJ (28J/269Y – Port Stephens) Qantas Silveroo Livery/Rainbow Roo

A388

VH-OQA (14F/64J/35W/371Y – Nancy Bird Walton) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-OQB (14F/64J/35W/371Y – Hudson Fysh) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-OQC (14F/64J/35W/371Y – Paul McGuiness) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-OQD (14F/64J/35W/371Y – Fergus McMaster) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-OQE (14F/64J/35W/371Y – Lawrence Hargrave) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-OQF (14F/64J/35W/371Y – Charles Kingsford Smith) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-OQG (14F/64J/35W/371Y – Charles Ulm) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-OQH (14F/64J/35W/371Y – Reginald Ansett) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-OQI (14F/64J/35W/371Y – David Warren) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-OQJ (14F/64J/35W/371Y – Bert Hinkler) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-OQK (14F/64J/35W/371Y – John & Reginald Duigan) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-OQL (14F/64J/35W/371Y – Phyllis Arnott) Qantas 2007 Livery


717-200

VH-NXD (125Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-NXE (125Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-NXG (125Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-NXH (125Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-NXI (12J98Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-NXJ (12J/98Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-NXK (125Y) QantasLink 1984 Livery
[/color]VH-NXL (125Y) QantasLink 1984 Livery
[/color]VH-NXM (125Y) QantasLink 1984 Livery
[/color]VH-NXN (125Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-NXO (125Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-NXQ (125Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-NXR (12J/98Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-YQS (12J/98Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-YQT (12J/98Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-YQU (12J/98Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-YQV (12J/98Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-YQW (12J/98Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery (Visit Tasmania/Tassie Devil)
VH-YQX (12J/98Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery
VH-YQY (12J/98Y) QantasLink 2007 Livery

737-800

VH-VXA (12J/162Y - Broome) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXB (12J/162Y - Yananyi) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXC (12J/162Y – Gippsland) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXD (12J/162Y – Tenterfield) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXE (12J/162Y – Coffs Harbour) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXF (12J/162Y – Sunshine Coast) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXG (12J/162Y – Port Douglas) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXH (12J/162Y – Warnambool) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXI (12J/162Y – Oodnadatta) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXJ (12J/162Y – Coober Pedy) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXK (12J/162Y – Katherine) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXL (12J/162Y – Charleville) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXM (12J/162Y – Mount Hotham) Qantas Silveroo Livery
VH-VXN (12J/162Y – Fremantle) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXO (12J/162Y – Kakadu) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXP (12J/162Y – Logan) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXQ (12J/162Y – Redlands) RetroRoo II
VH-VXR (12J/162Y – Shepparton) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXS (12J/162Y – St Helens) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXT (12J/162Y – Townsville) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VXU (12J/162Y – Wollongong) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VYA (12J/162Y – Narooma) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VYB (12J/162Y – Cape Otway) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VYC (12J/162Y – Arnhem Land) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VYD (12J/162Y – Eudunda) Qantas Silveroo Livery
VH-VYE (12J/162Y – Alice Springs) Qantas Silveroo Livery
VH-VYF (12J/162Y – Evandale) Qantas 1984 Livery
VH-VYG (12J/162Y – Australind) Qantas Silveroo Livery
VH-VYH (12J/162Y – Queanbeyan) Qantas 1984 Livery currently in SIN for repaint
VH-VYI (12J/162Y – Bathurst Island) Qantas 1984 Livery
VH-VYJ (12J/162Y – Cann River) Qantas 1984 LIvery
VH-VYK (12J/162Y – Moree) Qantas 1984 Livery
VH-VYL (12J/162Y – Wangaratta) Qantas 1984 Livery
VH-VZA (12J/162Y – Port Augusta) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZB (12J/162Y – Lake Macquarie) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZC (12J/162Y – Innisfail) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZD (12J/162Y – Geelong) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZE (12J/162Y – Bunbury) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZL (12J/162Y – Newcastle) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZM (12J/162Y – Bathurst) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZO (12J/162Y – Bendigo) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZP (12J/162Y – Whyalla) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZR (12J/162Y – Coral Bay) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZS (12J/162Y – Tamworth) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZT (12J/162Y – Kalgoorlie) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZU (12J/162Y – Lorne) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZV (12J/162Y – Palm Cove) Qantas 2007 Livery WIFI
VH-VZW (12J/162Y – Beaconsfield) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZX (12J/162Y – Daylesford) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZY (12J/162Y – Temora) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-VZZ (12J/162Y – Walpole) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-XZA (12J/162Y – Leeton) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-XZB (12J/162Y – Mudgee) Qantas 2007 Livery WIFI
VH-XZC (12J/162Y – Walwa) Qantas 2007 Livery WIFI
VH-XZD (12J/162Y – Moranbah) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-XZE (12J/162Y – Pine Creek) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-XZF (12J/162Y – Cygnet) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-XZG (12J/162Y – Bungendore) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-XZH (12J/162Y – McLaren Vale) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-XZI (12J/162Y – Kalbarri) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-XZJ (12J/162Y – Mendoorwoorrji) Mendoorwoorrji
VH-XZK (12J/162Y – Cook) Qantas 2007 Livery
VH-XZL (12J/162Y – Flinders) Qantas 2007 Livery
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VH-XZP (12J/162Y- James Strong) RetroRoo WIFI
ZK-ZQA (12J/162Y – Jean Batten) Qantas 2007 Livery
ZK-ZQB (12J/162Y – Sir William Hudson) Qantas 2007 Livery
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:05 am

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JQ TSV-DPS flights not performing up to expectations- no surprise given the current economic conditions in TSV. JQ threatening to cut the route early next year- suspect looking for a local govt. subsidy, but doubt that would past the pub test in present environment.


An announcement is expected tomorrow with flights to end 21 March 18

Jetstar is expected to announce the cancellation of all flights between Townsville and Bali tomorrow.
It comes after a crisis meeting was held today between various stakeholders including Qantas and Jetstar.
The Bulletin understands the airline will make the announcement tomorrow with the flights to end March 21 next year.


TSV airport has already released a statement

Townsville Airport released a statement this afternoon confirming Jetstar would cease direct Townsville-Bali services from March next year.
Townsville Airport chief operating officer Kevin Gill said the airport was disappointed to learn of the decision.
“This was a commercial decision made by Jetstar and we respect that decision,” Mr Gill said.
“We are of course extremely disappointed the service will cease, our team has worked very hard to drive demand on the service since its commencement in September 2015.


http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/ne ... 3896607e92


Another thing to consider is that this flight originates as JQ100 BNE-TSV then JQ102 TSV-DPS and the same on reverse as JQ103/101. The TSV-DPS route is likely to have been being supported by BNE-TSV-DPS traffic and with BNE-DPS direct rumoured to be going daily around March next year, the volume of pax likely to route via TSV will reduce...
 
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JQ TSV-DPS flights not performing up to expectations- no surprise given the current economic conditions in TSV. JQ threatening to cut the route early next year- suspect looking for a local govt. subsidy, but doubt that would past the pub test in present environment.


As well as the TSV economy being in the doldrums following the end of mining boom, I'd also question why, with such good weather and great beaches being available within a maximum 3 hour drive from TSV, would anyone want to visit a "hole" like Bali.
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:42 am

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JQ TSV-DPS flights not performing up to expectations- no surprise given the current economic conditions in TSV. JQ threatening to cut the route early next year- suspect looking for a local govt. subsidy, but doubt that would past the pub test in present environment.


As well as the TSV economy being in the doldrums following the end of mining boom, I'd also question why, with such good weather and great beaches being available within a maximum 3 hour drive from TSV, would anyone want to visit a "hole" like Bali.


Regardless of where you live I'd ask the same question. Coming from Perth originally Bali was always the cheap and nasty destination for the bogans and drunks.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

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JQ considering operating WA regional flights

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/low-sale ... b88595296z
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:48 am

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JQ considering operating WA regional flights

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/low-sale ... b88595296z

To be honest I think it'll be something like 2-3 weekly services max, on routes like SYD/MEL-Broome or Port Hedland or similar. Just can't really see them adding a lot of capacity to a market that isn't exactly big enough, nor would any flights originate from PER.

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Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:37 am

Effective 25 March 2018 Emirates will add a 4th daily flight to Sydney, A388 equipment

Schedule between 25-30 March 2018
EK416 DXB2040-1720+1SYD 388 D
EK417 SYD1705-25+1DXB 388 D

Schedule from 31 March 2018
EK416 DXB2040-1630+1SYD 388 D
EK417 SYD1615-25+1DXB 388 D


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Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:54 am

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Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:41 am

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Effective 25 March 2018 Emirates will add a 4th daily flight to Sydney, A388 equipment

Schedule between 25-30 March 2018
EK416 DXB2040-1720+1SYD 388 D
EK417 SYD1705-25+1DXB 388 D

Schedule from 31 March 2018
EK416 DXB2040-1630+1SYD 388 D
EK417 SYD1615-25+1DXB 388 D


https://www.ausbt.com.au/emirates-adds- ... bai-flight


The rumoured 4th daily DXB-SYD becomes reality. When EK dropped SYD-AKL just knew something was cooking.
Based on those timing EK418 aircraft will form the EK417 & EK416 aircraft will form EK419.

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Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:46 am

It was pretty obvious that a fourth daily was coming at some point, but I expected the times to match the new BNE service with a 22:30 departure 90 minutes or so after EK413.

The aircraft will obviously be rotating with EK418/419 - EK418/EK417 and EK416/419
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:12 pm

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JQ considering operating WA regional flights

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/low-sale ... b88595296z

To be honest I think it'll be something like 2-3 weekly services max, on routes like SYD/MEL-Broome or Port Hedland or similar. Just can't really see them adding a lot of capacity to a market that isn't exactly big enough, nor would any flights originate from PER.

Cheers
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The article does say within WA twice which would suggest departures ex PER. I would think BME would be key, but somewhere like LEA could work well as its gateway to ningaloo and there could be more scope to get reduced landing fees. Kind of like a PPP of thw north west. Also keeps PHE and KTA mainly corporate traffic.

Would be good to see more affordable options to NW australia
 
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:21 pm

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qf789 wrote:
JQ considering operating WA regional flights

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/low-sale ... b88595296z

To be honest I think it'll be something like 2-3 weekly services max, on routes like SYD/MEL-Broome or Port Hedland or similar. Just can't really see them adding a lot of capacity to a market that isn't exactly big enough, nor would any flights originate from PER.

Cheers
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The article does say within WA twice which would suggest departures ex PER. I would think BME would be key, but somewhere like LEA could work well as its gateway to ningaloo and there could be more scope to get reduced landing fees. Kind of like a PPP of thw north west. Also keeps PHE and KTA mainly corporate traffic.

Would be good to see more affordable options to NW australia


Not too indifferent to using Jetconnect/Jetstar NZ crew on Q300 NZ domestic services.

http://newsroom.jetstar.com/jetstar-to- ... w-zealand/

Not really sure of the cost base, as QFLink and Jetstar crew costs were on par 10 years ago, until Altara started hiring casuals for JQ.
 
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:29 pm

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QF commences codeshare with El Al (LY) from 12 Sept...on flights via BKK, HKG and JNB...isn't going via JNB quite a detour or is it one of the quickest options between SYD and TLV...since the ME3 carriers obviously don't serve TLV.


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QF commences codeshare with El Al (LY) from 12 Sept...on flights via BKK, HKG and JNB...isn't going via JNB quite a detour or is it one of the quickest options between SYD and TLV...since the ME3 carriers obviously don't serve TLV.


Most days the LY flight to TLV leaves HKG before the QF flights arrive; maybe it's a better connection through JNB.

(Or, of course, passengers could just connect with oneworld from the QF flight onto the late night CX departure...)

Both BKK-TLV and JNB-TLV on LY leaves after QF arrives - BKK one leaves at 0010 (QF arrives at 1640) and JNB ones leaves either at 2005 (Day 1,4) or 2135 (Day 6; QF arrives at 1700).

Surprisingly it looks like JNB indeed has the shortest connection time outbound; but for inbound that title belongs to BKK. And the overall travel time when connecting at JNB is 26:35, not too bad I would say, although certainly not good enough.



Just did some dummy bookings on the QF website. It is indeed a fairly good connection time-wise. But pricey, one way was what I just paid for TLV-MEL return on HU, and TLV-JNB is usually on one of their 763s which I don't think even have PTVs in Y, so pax used to Qantas-level product might be a bit jaded.

No, the ME3 don't serve TLV but one of the most popular TLV-Australia options is actually flying to Cyprus on Arkia and then onto QR.
 
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:16 pm

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Just did some dummy bookings on the QF website. It is indeed a fairly good connection time-wise. But pricey, one way was what I just paid for TLV-MEL return on HU, and TLV-JNB is usually on one of their 763s which I don't think even have PTVs in Y, so pax used to Qantas-level product might be a bit jaded.

No, the ME3 don't serve TLV but one of the most popular TLV-Australia options is actually flying to Cyprus on Arkia and then onto QR.

Not surprising about the price, IMHO. Yes LY's 763s are ancient, but they're being replaced by 787s as we are speaking. If you try and go HU, it would be 2-stop journey along with potential overnights in one of the cities in China. I would rather go CX in this case.

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qf789 wrote:
JQ considering operating WA regional flights

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/low-sale ... b88595296z

To be honest I think it'll be something like 2-3 weekly services max, on routes like SYD/MEL-Broome or Port Hedland or similar. Just can't really see them adding a lot of capacity to a market that isn't exactly big enough, nor would any flights originate from PER.

Cheers
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The article does say within WA twice which would suggest departures ex PER. I would think BME would be key, but somewhere like LEA could work well as its gateway to ningaloo and there could be more scope to get reduced landing fees. Kind of like a PPP of thw north west. Also keeps PHE and KTA mainly corporate traffic.

Would be good to see more affordable options to NW australia

Guess I missed it... Too late to properly read an article lol. If that's the case then PER would be pretty obvious, but I still expect something from the east if they decide to have a go.

Cheers
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Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:55 am

Effective 2 Feb 18 to 24 Mar 18 JQ will increase MEL-DPS from 10 weekly to a double daily service

JQ043 MEL1005 – 1255DPS 788 D
JQ035 MEL1855 – 2145DPS 788 D

JQ044 DPS1425 – 2300MEL 788 D
JQ036 DPS2315 – 0750+1MEL 788 D

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... y-changes/
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A question without notice. Do you see JQ proposed ops in WA being A320? Maybe something smaller - rebadged F100,s perhaps!
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Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:50 am

Today's JQ127 ADL-DPS diverted to PHE for a medical emergency.

A JETSTAR flight to Bali has had to make an emergency landing in Western Australia to give urgent medical attention to a passenger who became unresponsive.
Flight number JQ127 departed Adelaide for Indonesia just after 8am (ACST) this morning but was forced to land in Port Hedland at 10:50am (AWST) when a passenger fell ill


The flight has since continued onto DPS

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... c0c47dc8ea
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Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:05 am

Jetstar has partnered with payments platform Afterpay to offer passengers the chance to pay off their airfares in small regular payments

From today, the Afterpay option is available to Australians booking domestic flights and products online eight weeks in advance.
The service is right now only available for transactions between $200 and $1000, and a service fee of $10 applies.
But Afterpay and Jetstar is looking to extend the service to international flights as well, which will make global travel easier for a lot more Australians.



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Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:09 pm

EK414 DXB-SYD diverted to PER around 630pm due to a medical emergency on board

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... 6e34d2cc54
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Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:10 pm

From the 787 Production Thread

VH-ZNA is expected to roll out of paint over the next 24 hours
First flight has been scheduled for the 22nd of September
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Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:04 pm

EK414 now back in the air should arrive in SYD around 6am
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:19 am

Two flight attendants have been injured and hospitalised aboard VA233 MEL-ADL while on descent to ADL as a result of severe turbulence

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Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:41 am

QF SYD-KIX service to go year round

The Thursday service will be changed to Wednesday from 26 March 18

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Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:06 am

Qantas press release regarding SYD-KIX

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ear-round/
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:49 am

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Jetstar has partnered with payments platform Afterpay to offer passengers the chance to pay off their airfares in small regular payments

From today, the Afterpay option is available to Australians booking domestic flights and products online eight weeks in advance.
The service is right now only available for transactions between $200 and $1000, and a service fee of $10 applies.
But Afterpay and Jetstar is looking to extend the service to international flights as well, which will make global travel easier for a lot more Australians.



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but it's only 4 payments over 8 weeks. So compared to a credit card of 2 monthly cycles. Afterpay picks up fees if late or payment bounces.
 
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https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ear-round/


Wow! That was quick! Is this the missing 330?
 
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Qantas press release regarding SYD-KIX

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ear-round/


Wow! That was quick! Is this the missing 330?

I guess the KIX flight utilises the spare A330 from MEL-SIN rotation, but since SYD-KIX only operates 3x weekly, there's still one more daily frequencies that QF can utilise. They may use this opportunity to refurb -EBG and -EBL though.

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Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:04 am

Flights from Sydney Airport cancelled due to high winds, passengers may wait for days

Up to 100 flights in and out of Sydney Airport are cancelled and dozens more are delayed as wind gusts hit the runways.

The airport and airlines have not stated how long it will take to clear the backlog, but passengers at the airport told the ABC that airlines had said it might take days for them to get another flight.

Only one of three runways was operating at Australia's busiest airport due to gusts of nearly 60 kilometres per hour.

The winds are only affecting domestic flights. International flights are running as usual.

Air Services Australia warned there will be more flight cancellations later on Thursday due to the strong cross winds.

Full story: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-1 ... ds/8944628

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Up to 100 flights have been cancelled due to weather at SYD today with many more delayed. SYD is down to single runway ops due to wind gusts of up to 60KM an hour

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Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:18 am

Latest in JQ cancelling TSV-DPS

Passengers who fly the route are claiming flights are always full

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/ne ... b77ad63ce3
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:28 am

A Cessna has crashed landed at Jandakot this afternoon, no serious injuries sustained for those on board

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... 09491ffecf
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Latest in JQ cancelling TSV-DPS

Passengers who fly the route are claiming flights are always full

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/ne ... b77ad63ce3


Yeah it's all a big conspiracy by JQ and QF, they always cancel these really profitable routes! :roll:
 
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:31 am

Someone's gotta tell them that a full plane doesn't automatically equal profit. If JQ had to continually offer $99 base fares (not including baggage and credit card fees) to fill up the flights, it only confirms the suspicions that the yields on TSV-DPS were extremely low, making the route unviable.
 
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Latest in JQ cancelling TSV-DPS

Passengers who fly the route are claiming flights are always full

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/ne ... b77ad63ce3

Its all well and good these flights being full, but what fares are they paying? If it cheap flights to top up from BNE pax at discount rates whats the point ?
the TVL economy is real flat at the moment so bottom of the bucket fares may be the only way to fill it.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2017

Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:37 am

TN486 wrote:
A question without notice. Do you see JQ proposed ops in WA being A320? Maybe something smaller - rebadged F100,s perhaps!


With the down turn in the mining industry - it could make sense to send the F100s Jetstars way, might be useful for JQNZ as well e.g. AKL-NSN, WLG-CHC, WLG-CHC, WLG-DUD, DUD-CHC, CHC-ZQN etc.
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