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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2017

Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:15 pm

From what I can see from the early reports it seems like a landing gear issue. After takeoff Pilot called the tower, mentioned landing gear problems and returned to IST for landing and gear collapsed. 35R is closed. Captain lost his life, RIP.


Thankfully, the Captain is alive and in fact has been de-hospitalized today, as well as the cabin attendant. First Officer is still hospitalised and the condition of the sole passengeris unknown but DHMI Gen. Mngr. Ms. Funda Ocak previously has announced there are no fatalities. :airplane:
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2017

Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:59 pm

Glad they went with the B787 order. Most likely see them on some European routes too.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2017

Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:03 pm

After Boeing deal Turkish Airlines now turns to Airbus planning on ordering 40 Airbus A350-900 aircraft according to this website. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-turk ... SKCN1BX189
 
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Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:56 am

It feels like I'm beating a dead horse, but I assume A350s would be more suitable for a potential expansion into Australia by Turkish Airlines?
Are the 787-9s capable at IST-SYD/MEL/PER, I read conflicting answers.
 
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Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:58 am

1g wrote:
It feels like I'm beating a dead horse, but I assume A350s would be more suitable for a potential expansion into Australia by Turkish Airlines?
Are the 787-9s capable at IST-SYD/MEL/PER, I read conflicting answers.


PER-IST 6500nm
MEL-IST 7894nm
SYD-IST 8076nm

Going off these distances TK could do PER-IST non stop but not MEL or SYD with the 789. This is also taking into account that TK would have a more dense layout compared to QF which is at 236 seats. PER-LHR is 7828nm so I would say TK will either need the 778 or A350ULR to operate non-stop to Australia.

The following article suggests that TK will operate to Australia via Asia most likely SIN

https://www.ausbt.com.au/with-boeing-78 ... -Australia

One other thing to take into consideration is the bilateral. Currently if TK were to serve both MEL & SYD it would have to be 3 weekly and 4 weekly respectively and that probably doesn't favor a non stop either

Here's what is in the current bilateral

AVAILABLE CAPACITY:

PASSENGER SERVICES:

Between Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth and Turkey

Seven (7) services per week

Between Samsun Carsamba, Nevsehir Kapadokya, and Gaziantep and Australia

Unrestricted capacity, frequency and aircraft type


https://infrastructure.gov.au/aviation/ ... 110817.pdf
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Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:20 am

Congrats to both TK and Boeing and not to forget TK787 finally I wonder if TK would just order 789 or will they choose 78710 in the mix?
Now it's my turn i hope to see TK fly here to my home town MEL as well as SYD one day.

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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2017

Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:35 pm

Let's keep beating that dead horse :)
It was the same for a decade about 787/350 or 747/380 :)
I guess worth beating.
My personal feeling is that, TK one day will start Australia with a one-stop and NOT daily even though it is not competitive, for prestige.
It might not even be profitable even with a non-stop in the future, with a flight time over 17 hours.
I just can not see TK to dedicate a small sub-fleet with fewer seats for Y pax for this flight either.
And lastly, I don't see TK considering PER at all.
So, IMHO; SYD or Bust, with One-Stop, 3 times Weekly for the foreseeable future.
 
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Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:45 pm

Btw congratulations to TK787! Now your nickname comes true. Great!

Do we have a member TK350? :D
 
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Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:53 pm

Yakamoz wrote:

Do we have a member TK350? :D

Yes we do :)
He is my best friend and he got the name over a decade ago. He is just a lurker though, never posts.
Maybe he will, when TK orders the 350 :)

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Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:33 pm

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So, IMHO; SYD or Bust


Don't write off MEL.

While the Turkish population is a bit smaller than SYD, MEL has benefits of hosting many ethnic communities including biggest Greek population of any city outside of Greece, and large communities from Balkan states -- all populations TK could naturally serve very well.
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Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:10 am

Still landing 05, and it's awesome. Nice to be back in IST.
 
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Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:49 am

As LAXintl mentioned don't write off MEL, For those who are not aware Melbourne is a large multicultural city with a large Eastern Europe population that TK can feed thru it's network. The 3rd largest Greek community outside of Greece and even the Turkish community is growing here lots moving down from Sydney. Melbourne's population will overtake Sydney within the next 5 or so years with over 100 thousand people a year moving here alone from our Northern states/cities .
 
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Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:05 am

Was doing some research for an article that I was going to write for Kokpit and came to a shocking surprise that THY is one of the few airlines that has 9 abreast seating on 777. Looks like pretty much everyone and their mother switched to 10 abreast seating. I am surprised that this feature is never used by the airline for marketing purposes.
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Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:00 pm

I've been dummy booking random routes for the winter season and all of the routes I've attempted seem to have the same number of flights available as last year. I don't see how this is happening again. TK has improved a lot, why would they go back to the way they were last year? Something tells me that it's simply because they haven't released their winter schedule yet but I'm not really sure...
Note last year we were made aware of the changes in August.
 
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Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:04 pm

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Turkish Airlines will purchase B787.


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Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:11 pm

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wing wrote:
Turkish Airlines will purchase B787.


:thumbsup: 8-)

Hey Wing, your profile says you joined a.net 17 years ago. What????? Where you like 15 years old??? :)
 
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Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:32 pm

bahadir wrote:
Was doing some research for an article that I was going to write for Kokpit and came to a shocking surprise that THY is one of the few airlines that has 9 abreast seating on 777. Looks like pretty much everyone and their mother switched to 10 abreast seating. I am surprised that this feature is never used by the airline for marketing purposes.

I just finished 2 domestic flights on the 77W and to be honest, I didn’t even notice the 3 abreast in the middle :) plane was full, so it probably didn’t make a difference
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:24 am

bahadir wrote:
Was doing some research for an article that I was going to write for Kokpit and came to a shocking surprise that THY is one of the few airlines that has 9 abreast seating on 777. Looks like pretty much everyone and their mother switched to 10 abreast seating. I am surprised that this feature is never used by the airline for marketing purposes.


Have other airlines with 10 abreast also 349 or more seats? :)
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:25 am

Yakamoz wrote:
bahadir wrote:
Was doing some research for an article that I was going to write for Kokpit and came to a shocking surprise that THY is one of the few airlines that has 9 abreast seating on 777. Looks like pretty much everyone and their mother switched to 10 abreast seating. I am surprised that this feature is never used by the airline for marketing purposes.


Have other airlines with 10 abreast also 349 or more seats? :)


KLM has 3-4-3 seating on 77Ws in Y, and even in 3-class (J/Y+/Y) configuration, contains 408 seats. Also, Air China recently started 2-class 77Ws, also with 3-4-3 in Y, with 392 seats. Air India maintains 3-3-3 seating on 77Ws in Y, with 342 seats in total, which is close to TK's capacity on most 77Ws.

However, one should also not forget the 3 ex-Kenya Airways 77Ws (TC-LKA/B/C) that TK leases for its India routes (DEL/BOM), which are 3-3-3 in Y, but have a whopping 400 seats (they have only 28 J seats)! I have had the chance to ride these birds twice so far, and the economy cabin in them is MASSIVE, and super LONG .
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:07 am

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I've been dummy booking random routes for the winter season and all of the routes I've attempted seem to have the same number of flights available as last year. I don't see how this is happening again. TK has improved a lot, why would they go back to the way they were last year? Something tells me that it's simply because they haven't released their winter schedule yet but I'm not really sure...
Note last year we were made aware of the changes in August.


I checked last Tuesday all destinations. An increase of %4 is planned.

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Which destinations did you check?



globetrotter94 wrote:
Yakamoz wrote:
bahadir wrote:
Was doing some research for an article that I was going to write for Kokpit and came to a shocking surprise that THY is one of the few airlines that has 9 abreast seating on 777. Looks like pretty much everyone and their mother switched to 10 abreast seating. I am surprised that this feature is never used by the airline for marketing purposes.


Have other airlines with 10 abreast also 349 or more seats? :)


KLM has 3-4-3 seating on 77Ws in Y, and even in 3-class (J/Y+/Y) configuration, contains 408 seats. Also, Air China recently started 2-class 77Ws, also with 3-4-3 in Y, with 392 seats. Air India maintains 3-3-3 seating on 77Ws in Y, with 342 seats in total, which is close to TK's capacity on most 77Ws.

However, one should also not forget the 3 ex-Kenya Airways 77Ws (TC-LKA/B/C) that TK leases for its India routes (DEL/BOM), which are 3-3-3 in Y, but have a whopping 400 seats (they have only 28 J seats)! I have had the chance to ride these birds twice so far, and the economy cabin in them is MASSIVE, and super LONG .



Thanks!
Has the KLM 3-4-3 408 seater the same feeling like TK ex Kenya birds 3-3-3 400 seater? :)
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:35 am

Yakamoz wrote:
AirbusA343 wrote:
I've been dummy booking random routes for the winter season and all of the routes I've attempted seem to have the same number of flights available as last year. I don't see how this is happening again. TK has improved a lot, why would they go back to the way they were last year? Something tells me that it's simply because they haven't released their winter schedule yet but I'm not really sure...
Note last year we were made aware of the changes in August.


I checked last Tuesday all destinations. An increase of %4 is planned.

Image

Which destinations did you check?



globetrotter94 wrote:
Yakamoz wrote:

Have other airlines with 10 abreast also 349 or more seats? :)


KLM has 3-4-3 seating on 77Ws in Y, and even in 3-class (J/Y+/Y) configuration, contains 408 seats. Also, Air China recently started 2-class 77Ws, also with 3-4-3 in Y, with 392 seats. Air India maintains 3-3-3 seating on 77Ws in Y, with 342 seats in total, which is close to TK's capacity on most 77Ws.

However, one should also not forget the 3 ex-Kenya Airways 77Ws (TC-LKA/B/C) that TK leases for its India routes (DEL/BOM), which are 3-3-3 in Y, but have a whopping 400 seats (they have only 28 J seats)! I have had the chance to ride these birds twice so far, and the economy cabin in them is MASSIVE, and super LONG .



Thanks!
Has the KLM 3-4-3 408 seater the same feeling like TK ex Kenya birds 3-3-3 400 seater? :)


I feel that the TK birds are more comfortable than the KLM ones due to 3-3-3 (18in seat width) vs 3-4-3 (17.5in seat width). Especially on long-haul flights, you can certainly feel the pinch of that 0.5in reduction.
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:23 am

globetrotter94 wrote:
Yakamoz wrote:
AirbusA343 wrote:
I've been dummy booking random routes for the winter season and all of the routes I've attempted seem to have the same number of flights available as last year. I don't see how this is happening again. TK has improved a lot, why would they go back to the way they were last year? Something tells me that it's simply because they haven't released their winter schedule yet but I'm not really sure...
Note last year we were made aware of the changes in August.


I checked last Tuesday all destinations. An increase of %4 is planned.

Image

Which destinations did you check?



globetrotter94 wrote:

KLM has 3-4-3 seating on 77Ws in Y, and even in 3-class (J/Y+/Y) configuration, contains 408 seats. Also, Air China recently started 2-class 77Ws, also with 3-4-3 in Y, with 392 seats. Air India maintains 3-3-3 seating on 77Ws in Y, with 342 seats in total, which is close to TK's capacity on most 77Ws.

However, one should also not forget the 3 ex-Kenya Airways 77Ws (TC-LKA/B/C) that TK leases for its India routes (DEL/BOM), which are 3-3-3 in Y, but have a whopping 400 seats (they have only 28 J seats)! I have had the chance to ride these birds twice so far, and the economy cabin in them is MASSIVE, and super LONG .



Thanks!
Has the KLM 3-4-3 408 seater the same feeling like TK ex Kenya birds 3-3-3 400 seater? :)


I feel that the TK birds are more comfortable than the KLM ones due to 3-3-3 (18in seat width) vs 3-4-3 (17.5in seat width). Especially on long-haul flights, you can certainly feel the pinch of that 0.5in reduction.


Interesting, Winter 15/16 has 87.6% of the number of flights of Summer 15, but Winter 16/17 has 79.8% of Summer 16. Similarly Winter 17/18 has 82.2% of Summer 17, so apparently seasonality has increased in the last 2 years but recovering.
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:44 pm

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I checked last Tuesday all destinations. An increase of %4 is planned.

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Which destinations did you check?



Does anyone have any intuition into why exactly TK scrapped so many Japan frequencies around this time last year--got rid of the 2nd NRT flight and cancelled KIX entirely. What gives? I suspect reduction in services to Japan accounts for most of the -8% of the Far East region.
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:46 pm

@Yakamoz, I have checked Dublin, Birmingham, Bari, Catania, Naples and London Gatwick. It might be a glitch but I have checked Dublin quite a few times and got 10x weekly rather than 2 daily. It did kind of surprise me because I have heard that TK is seeking to add another 3x weekly flight to DUB.
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:54 pm

KIX was long time loss making (and was dropped previously once).
2nd NRT flight only started in late 2013 and only operated till early 2016. It had poor connection timing at IST (arrived too late back from NRT in the evening to make most Europe/regional connections).
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:01 pm

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@Yakamoz, I have checked Dublin, Birmingham, Bari, Catania, Naples and London Gatwick. It might be a glitch but I have checked Dublin quite a few times and got 10x weekly rather than 2 daily. It did kind of surprise me because I have heard that TK is seeking to add another 3x weekly flight to DUB.


They are still seeking to increase DUB and I would say it will happen sooner rather then later.
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:30 pm

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@Yakamoz, I have checked Dublin, Birmingham, Bari, Catania, Naples and London Gatwick. It might be a glitch but I have checked Dublin quite a few times and got 10x weekly rather than 2 daily. It did kind of surprise me because I have heard that TK is seeking to add another 3x weekly flight to DUB.


Comparison Winter schedules W16 vs W17 (as of 19/09/17)

Dublin 10 to 12 weekly
Birmingham 10 weekly
Bari 3 weekly
Catania 5 to 7 weekly
Naples 7 weekly
Gatwick 19 weekly
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:24 pm

LAXintl wrote:
KIX was long time loss making (and was dropped previously once).
2nd NRT flight only started in late 2013 and only operated till early 2016. It had poor connection timing at IST (arrived too late back from NRT in the evening to make most Europe/regional connections).


So I guess I should drop my dreams of IST-KIX being reinstated? Very sad :(... actually, it is so strange, because TK has an actual aircraft (the retro-livery A330-200, registered TC-JNC) which is named after the Japanese town of "Kushimoto" (I think, the only TK aircraft to not be named after a Turkish town/geographic feature), which is right outside the glidepath to Osaka-Kansai--yet no more service to Osaka-Kansai itself :cry2:!
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:33 pm

globetrotter94 wrote:
So I guess I should drop my dreams of IST-KIX being reinstated? Very sad :(... actually, it is so strange, because TK has an actual aircraft (the retro-livery A330-200, registered TC-JNC) which is named after the Japanese town of "Kushimoto" (I think, the only TK aircraft to not be named after a Turkish town/geographic feature), which is right outside the glidepath to Osaka-Kansai--yet no more service to Osaka-Kansai itself :cry2:!



TK named an A330 Kushimoto to celebrate events around (including movie) the 125th commemoration of the sinking of an Ottoman vessel off the cost of Kushimoto Japan. Today there is even a Turkish Memorial and Museum in Kushimoto.
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:30 pm

mercure1 wrote:
globetrotter94 wrote:
So I guess I should drop my dreams of IST-KIX being reinstated? Very sad :(... actually, it is so strange, because TK has an actual aircraft (the retro-livery A330-200, registered TC-JNC) which is named after the Japanese town of "Kushimoto" (I think, the only TK aircraft to not be named after a Turkish town/geographic feature), which is right outside the glidepath to Osaka-Kansai--yet no more service to Osaka-Kansai itself :cry2:!



TK named an A330 Kushimoto to celebrate events around (including movie) the 125th commemoration of the sinking of an Ottoman vessel off the cost of Kushimoto Japan. Today there is even a Turkish Memorial and Museum in Kushimoto.


Yes, I have seen that movie (Ertugrul 1890, right?)--actually onboard TK itself! I was merely commenting, it is strange coincidence that the airline has an entire airplane named after such an obscure (but of course, historic and iconic for Turkey-Japan relations) town, yet the airline walks away from the mega-airport closest to the town just 1 year after the airplane is named and the film released!
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:37 pm

I just informed that QR 787 deal is not shelved, 10 of 787 will join next month :roll:
 
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I just informed that QR 787 deal is not shelved, 10 of 787 will join next month :roll:


I suppose with the start of winter season?
 
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I just informed that QR 787 deal is not shelved, 10 of 787 will join next month :roll:

Wet lease, I presume? Otherwise, crew training should have been already underway - or is it? Any info on the routes they will be deployed on? Can you tell anything about your source?
 
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MeCe wrote:
I just informed that QR 787 deal is not shelved, 10 of 787 will join next month :roll:


I suppose with the start of winter season?


Probably, but I did not get any specific time just "next month"

MalevTU134 wrote:
MeCe wrote:
I just informed that QR 787 deal is not shelved, 10 of 787 will join next month :roll:

Wet lease, I presume? Otherwise, crew training should have been already underway - or is it? Any info on the routes they will be deployed on? Can you tell anything about your source?


Yes, will be wet lease. ATL and MIA will first candidates, may be BOS. Only I can tell about my source, a friend who works at TK ;)
 
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:02 pm

Turkish and Malaysian Malindo Air announced they are expanding their 2016 interline and frequent flyer relationship to include codeshare services.
Codesharing will cover flights to Denpasar, Kota Kinabalu, Kuching, Langkawi, Penang and Perth via KUL and Copenhagen, Frankfurt, and London via IST along with TKs IST-KUL route.
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Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:14 am

THY awarded Five-Star Global Airline” by the Airline Passenger Experience Association (APEX) annual event here in Los Angeles.

https://eturbonews.com/165875/turkish-a ... ar-carrier

The other 2017 APEX passenger choice award winners were:

Best Cabin Service — Qatar Airways
Best Seat Comfort — Virgin America
Best Food & Beverage — Qatar Airways
Best Wi-Fi — JetBlue
Best Entertainment — Emirates
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Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:36 pm

MeCe wrote:
MalevTU134 wrote:
MeCe wrote:
I just informed that QR 787 deal is not shelved, 10 of 787 will join next month :roll:

Wet lease, I presume? Otherwise, crew training should have been already underway - or is it? Any info on the routes they will be deployed on? Can you tell anything about your source?


Yes, will be wet lease. ATL and MIA will first candidates, may be BOS. Only I can tell about my source, a friend who works at TK ;)


So it will be like the Boeing 777-300ER "training period" back in the late-2000s with Jet Airways aircraft and crews again? Will the aircraft be repainted to TK colors like in that case?
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Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:15 pm

According to Ugur Cebeci s article, part of the RFP was wetlease for interim period. Airbus could not offer A350 while Boeing offered QR, Ethiad and RJ 787s
 
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Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:52 pm

If this QR 787 werlease-deal comes to frutition, can TK operate those Birds everywhere they want?? I.e. MEX?? Or HAV, CCS, BOG etc.?

If yes, can the 787 do IST-MEX-IST without payload restrictions??
 
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Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:18 pm

As far as I heard, QR 787s do not have crew rest area
 
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Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:27 pm

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As far as I heard, QR 787s do not have crew rest area


We talked about it last month. If I understand it right, crew rest are not mandatory. Blocked seats is also possible.
 
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Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:56 pm

I wonder if, and how many TK 787's will be equipped with CR.
 
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Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:59 pm

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ist2014 wrote:
As far as I heard, QR 787s do not have crew rest area


We talked about it last month. If I understand it right, crew rest are not mandatory. Blocked seats is also possible.


What kind of an airline would order 787s withouy a crew rest. If TK gets these birds they will be used on some long thin routes. Crew rest is a must
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Based on fr24 QR ia deploying 787 s to asian cities with flight duration around 10 hours
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:08 pm

bahadir wrote:
What kind of an airline would order 787s withouy a crew rest. If TK gets these birds they will be used on some long thin routes. Crew rest is a must


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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:21 pm

bahadir wrote:
Tkfan wrote:
ist2014 wrote:
As far as I heard, QR 787s do not have crew rest area


We talked about it last month. If I understand it right, crew rest are not mandatory. Blocked seats is also possible.


What kind of an airline would order 787s withouy a crew rest. If TK gets these birds they will be used on some long thin routes. Crew rest is a must

...but they sure will have the carpet perfectly installed... :roll: :duck:
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:58 pm

globetrotter94 wrote:
So it will be like the Boeing 777-300ER "training period" back in the late-2000s with Jet Airways aircraft and crews again? Will the aircraft be repainted to TK colors like in that case?


Exactly, but I dont have any info about painting. If they are we should hear it even at QR did paintjob.

Tkfan wrote:
If this QR 787 werlease-deal comes to frutition, can TK operate those Birds everywhere they want?? I.e. MEX?? Or HAV, CCS, BOG etc.?

If yes, can the 787 do IST-MEX-IST without payload restrictions??


They should apply as new flight to destination. I remember TK could not fly Jet's 777 to USA for a while because they forgot apply :) Since QR is flying to USA regularly , that wont be problem. Other destinations depends how qatar has bileterals with that country.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:10 pm

MeCe wrote:

They should apply as new flight to destination. I remember TK could not fly Jet's 777 to USA for a while because they forgot apply :) Since QR is flying to USA regularly , that wont be problem. Other destinations depends how qatar has bileterals with that country.


Afaik it was due to bilaterals.
Jet Airways 77W were initially wet leased for 6 month than dry leased for two or three years. They couldn't operate to USA (also not to NRT) while on wet lease.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2017

Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:48 pm

TK announces to start ESB to Europe routes:
-29Oct to Frankfurt 3 x W
-30Oct to Berlin 2 x W
-31Oct to Vienna 2 x W
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2017

Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:13 pm

@TK787
Congrats to your name becoming true.
Hope that this will also happen for me ;)

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