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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:18 am

It looks just like Delta's livery. No imagination.
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:21 am

Yet another mostly white/sparsely covered underbelly bore.

From a distance that could easily be Delta .. or any number of other mostly white carriers.

Seems like there are 2 extremes ... boring ones like this ... or HIDEOUS ones like WOW, WIZZ, Southwest, Spirit, etc.

Nothing in between. Nothing classy.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:18 am

Continental767 wrote:
First pic in the database.



Seems like they didn't put the roundel on the engine this time like they do on the 787.


Thanks for pointing that out. I wonder what the justification for that is.
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 am

created an account just to weigh in. Hate this livery, mainly the "mask" on the cockpit windows. Looks like the next member of the Incredibles

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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 am

It's on the inside of the engine, in the same place....
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:43 am

Continental767 wrote:
First pic in the database.



Seems like they didn't put the roundel on the engine this time like they do on the 787.



It's on the inner side of the winglet. I guess the 737Max will have the roundel on the winglet instead of the engine as well.

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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:06 am

lol - that was dumb of me. Didn't even look at the photo.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:13 am

Looks great! I am loving this livery.
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:14 am

Looks great, but it does not scream "Canada" to me.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:22 am

Continental767 wrote:
First pic in the database.



Seems like they didn't put the roundel on the engine this time like they do on the 787.



The A330 also has the maple leaf on the belly, where as the 787 doesn’t... I wonder why they have the differences like that, I mean they are minor but still.
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:50 am

Awesome looking! Though from a distance, kinda easy to mistake for DL.

SOOOOOOO much better than that horrid toothpaste livery that they had.



Continental767 wrote:
Much better than the toothpaste and pixels livery.

Amen. ANYTHING would've been an improvement over that!
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:05 am

I've often wondered what their new livery would look like on an A350. A mask on a mask!
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:39 am

What's interesting to me is that of all the new liveries various airlines have put out in recent years, they all seem to work best or better on the A330 than other types in their respective fleets. I'm thinking Air Canada, American and Thomas Cook as examples, hey even Iberia. There's no doubt others as well. Is it just one classy looking aircraft ?
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:49 am

Dissepointing and not very creative. It looks to similare to Delta to me .... Doesn't stand out ...


Image

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I know it's not the same color, but still ...
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:53 am

I personally love it. Very crisp, elegant, professional. Yes, a bit '90s perhaps, and that's one of the reasons why I like it. It also reminds me a lot of the old Vanguards in AC livery for some reason...
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:58 am

Yeah I can't say I'm a fan of this somewhat retro livery and rigid lines. Think the tail and underbelly is too dark. They could take a leaf out of Delta's book.
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:52 pm

Delta's looks more professional, like a modern American painting of abstract art. Air Canada's gives the impression that somebody sat at the computer and experimented. Austere livery and a mask don't mix well, me thinks...
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:06 pm

Would a red belly and/or cowlings look better ?
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:54 pm

I doubt it. I just think the lines are severe and the cockpit treatment dated.
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:09 pm

XLA2008 wrote:
Continental767 wrote:
First pic in the database.



Seems like they didn't put the roundel on the engine this time like they do on the 787.



The A330 also has the maple leaf on the belly, where as the 787 doesn’t... I wonder why they have the differences like that, I mean they are minor but still.


The B787s has the maple leaf rondel in the belly also.....
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:14 pm

This livery fits well with current Air Canada: bland and uninspiring. :duck:
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:37 pm

Have seen the A321 and 787s. The under bellyshots look good, however it seems more white overall the larger the aircraft when viewed from other angles. I think the 773ERs will look even whiter as it is an even longer aircraft. When will the first 773ER appear?
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:46 pm

Didn't like it on day 1, don't like it now.

birdbrainz wrote:
It looks just like Delta's livery. No imagination.


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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:53 pm

bmacleod wrote:
Looks like AC is going to hold onto them (A333s) for a while....


Maybe yes, and maybe not. Perhaps the aircraft just needed to be repainted anyway. JL did the same with one MD-11 when they had them. Anyway, I glad to see an AC A333 with the latest livery on. Looks really great.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:57 pm

BTW, our friends in Switzerland should have the pleasure to it pretty soon since tonight it will fly to GVA and tomorrow to ZRH.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-gfaf
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:25 pm

Bleh. AC went from a completely original, easily recognizable, lovely livery to....well....another white homage to a lack of imagination. I admit it took me a bit to get used to the toothpaste colour, but it was neat how well the scheme stood out in a sea of white. All they were missing was the roundel.

Now...another decade and a half of yawns.
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:08 pm

IMHO this scheme suits the A330 very well, but neither the new livery, nor the A330 itself, set my heart aflame in and of themselves.

Call me weird, but it's the mid-1990s green tail with autumn leaf that really does it for me. The toothpaste is nice when conditions capture the sparkle, capturing Canadian winter conditions in a charming way.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:38 pm

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
BTW, our friends in Switzerland should have the pleasure to it pretty soon since tonight it will fly to GVA and tomorrow to ZRH.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-gfaf


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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:58 pm

Still do not like the 'bandit' mask.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:47 am

Grumpylumpy wrote:
Still do not like the 'bandit' mask.


The bandit mask is the least of it. They had a completely unique, classy livery. All they needed for a bit of retro was to add the roundel.

Now, it's just another white bowl of pablum on the tarmac.
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:04 am

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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:51 am

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It's a thought...

If only. Then again, NZ did change their original black livery to the current one.
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:28 am

Whiteguy wrote:
XLA2008 wrote:
Continental767 wrote:
First pic in the database.



Seems like they didn't put the roundel on the engine this time like they do on the 787.



The A330 also has the maple leaf on the belly, where as the 787 doesn’t... I wonder why they have the differences like that, I mean they are minor but still.


The B787s has the maple leaf rondel in the belly also.....


Noted as I’ve seen since in other photos... but it wasn’t on the 787 in that photo in the link! Thanks for the info
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:17 am

XLA2008 wrote:
Continental767 wrote:
First pic in the database.



Seems like they didn't put the roundel on the engine this time like they do on the 787.



The A330 also has the maple leaf on the belly, where as the 787 doesn’t... I wonder why they have the differences like that, I mean they are minor but still.


It Is there if you look at other photos of that 787 you can just make out the red but it isn't very distinct.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:46 am

De gustibus non est disputandum, but I really can't understand Air Canada. They are replacing a nice livery with one of the most boring ones I've seen in a long time.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:57 pm

It looks very close to the STAR ALLIANCE LogoJet. this one C-GHLM should have a minor re paint with black engines and cockpit mask
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:44 pm

What is that colour?
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:12 pm

It never cease to amaze me how backward airline liveries have been going over the last few years. The previous mint one was far more classic. Ditto for the red/white one. This new version is boring & hideous to say the least. Epic failure! Not a fan.
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:35 pm

Beautiful bird. Good luck.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:06 pm

The toothpaste livery at least had color, in a world that is increasingly either Euro-white or close to it (sorry, a little color on the bottom isn't enough).

Air Canada would do better to go back to this livery. Lots of color. And it would still have the roundel. :)

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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:11 pm

airjamaica wrote:
It never cease to amaze me how backward airline liveries have been going over the last few years. The previous mint one was far more classic. Ditto for the red/white one. This new version is boring & hideous to say the least. Epic failure! Not a fan.

The designers will tell you its "minimalist".
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:11 pm

Any idea when the first 777 will appear in the new c/s?

Will they do the 767 at all, given that it is probably not going to be in the fleet for too long more? (More likely to be repainted in Rouge c/s than new AC?)
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:56 am

jeffrey0032j wrote:
The designers will tell you its "minimalist".


Honestly I don't mind a livery being minimalist. But I think they could be a bit more creative with design & choice of colors used. They keep getting unimaginative & uninteresting as the years go by. Kudos to the few who retained or tweaked their existing ones that still stand out... SQ & KL comes to mind. I also like the tweaked AF (though the Eurowhite is a bit much).
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:08 am

Beautiful! The new livery looks fantastic on the A330. Can't wait for it to appear on the 777s.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:00 pm

Glad I'm not the only one that thinks this new livery looks a wee bit too much like Delta's. However, it is nice, imho.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:35 pm

longhauler wrote:
HHScot wrote:

In a strange way I think the cockpit windows painting is to be an abstract nod to the Canada goose!

While I can see a slight likeness to Canada's Most Evil Creature, I recall reading that the cockpit mask was more homage to the Thunderbird on native totem poles.

http://www.cathedralgrove.eu/text/07-To ... ites-7.htm



Goose? Thunderbird? I assumed it was a raccoon mask, and a not-so-veiled shot at Porter (but then, we who live in the GTA always assume that its all about us... right?).

I think that the mask makes the livery, I see it as a nod to the anti-glare soul patch that that we used to see...

Looks good on 330.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:59 pm

I think it looks slick. This livery has grown on me. The A333 is one of the best looking planes in the sky, and the black really suits it.

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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:12 pm

While I understand that there's similarity between the new Air Canada's livery and Delta's, they are certainly not identical. Delta uses a navy blue and Air Canada black. It's that simple. They're similar, and likely easily mistaken to the naked eye, but they're not the same. I also don't understand why so many commentators here are jumping on Air Canada's new livery as being derivative of Delta's as opposed to just being another Euro-white livery.

For the record, I prefer the former Air Canada livery. The new one is fine, but fails to create any sort of unique brand identity. I love Airbus' A350 & A330neo black eyeliner and think that Air Canada's raccoon eyes/bandit mask is hit-or-miss depending on the aircraft and the perspective from which it is observed. It looks good in the above-posted A330 airborne and landing photos, and generally seems to suit widebodies, but I think it looks goofy on narrow-bodies and will age poorly.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:32 pm

i think its a fresh paint job. Air Canada did good by not doing what all the other airlines are doing. they wanted something original.
 
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Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:37 pm

kaitak wrote:
Any idea when the first 777 will appear in the new c/s?

Will they do the 767 at all, given that it is probably not going to be in the fleet for too long more? (More likely to be repainted in Rouge c/s than new AC?)



I would say the 5 remaining 767s will remain the way they are and not be touched...

777, could be days/weeks or months. They also halted on the A321s for the summer (4 still need to be repainted if you exclude C-GITU which is *A).
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