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OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:52 pm

FAQ

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares departures for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

THE SCHEDULES SHOWN HERE CHANGE AFTER YOU POST???
-To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often---Winston Churchill. This is data the carriers filed at the point in time it was captured. It's changed since then. You are just going to have to live with it.

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

WHERE ARE SEATS SHOWN?
They aren't. This only shows departures.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Flights that do not operate every day of the month create fractional service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. For example, if a flight operates 4 times in April it will show 4/30=0.133=0.1. Also , a flight that only operates once per week may vary between 0.1 and 0.2 because a weekday may repeat either 4 or 5 times depending on the month.

WHAT ABOUT CARRIERS THAT DON'T PUBLISH A SCHEDULE 9 MONTHS IN ADVANCE?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. I remove the schedule adds if I see them and show a year over year (YOY) comparison if I notice them.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE SKYWEST
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN ERROR?
The carriers file the schedules. They do make mistakes. Most of the mistakes I have seen are either related to code shares not being marked as "duplicates" or carriers filing flights with invalid data such as equipment codes that are not standard. This causes flights to not appear.

CHARTERS?
Lately charters have been showing up in the database. I have no idea if that will continue.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

What else bad could happen to 3M? They have zero luck with their network.
*3M EYW-PBI DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.9>0 MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0
3M FLL-BIM OCT 1.8>0.9 NOV 1.8>1.4 DEC 1.9>1.3 JAN 1.8>1.5 FEB 1.9>1.7
3M MIA-BIM OCT 0.5>0
3M PBI-MHH DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0.5>0.9

4B AIA-CDR NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0>1.7 FEB 0>1.7
4B AIA-DEN NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0>1.7 FEB 0>1.7
4B CDR-DEN NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0>1.7 FEB 0>1.7
4B CEZ-DEN NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0>3 FEB 0>3
4B CEZ-PHX NOV 0>0.9 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.9 FEB 0>0.9
4B CNY-DEN NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0
4B CNY-SLC NOV 0>1.8 DEC 0>1.9 JAN 0>1.8 FEB 0>1.9
4B DEN-MCK NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0>1.7 FEB 0>1.7
4B DEN-VEL NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0>3 FEB 0>3
4B SLC-VEL NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0

7Q CLD-LAS OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2 DEC 0>2

9K ACK-HYA JAN 9>10 FEB 9>10 MAR 9>10 APR 9>10
9K ACK-MVY JAN 1.0>1.9 FEB 1.0>1.9 MAR 1.0>1.9 APR 1.0>1.9
9K BOS-HYA DEC 1.8>1.3 JAN 3>1.3 FEB 3>1.3 MAR 3>1.3 APR 3>1.3
9K EWB-MVY JAN 1.0>1.9 FEB 1.0>1.9 MAR 1.0>1.9 APR 1.0>1.8

Is this a new airline or a reinstatement?
9V FLL-CCS OCT 0>0.4 NOV 0>0.6 DEC 0>0.5 JAN 0>0.5 FEB 0>0.6 MAR 0>0.5 APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>0.5
9V MIA-CCS OCT 0>0.3 NOV 0>0.4 DEC 0>0.4 JAN 0>0.4 FEB 0>0.4 MAR 0>0.5 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.5

9X AOO-BWI JAN 1.2>1.9 FEB 0>1.9 MAR 0>1.8 APR 0>1.9
9X AOO-PIT FEB 0>1.6 MAR 0>1.5 APR 0>1.6
9X BFD-PIT JAN 1.3>3 FEB 0>4 MAR 0>4 APR 0>4
9X BWI-DUJ FEB 0>1.7 MAR 0>1.7 APR 0>1.7
9X BWI-HGR JAN 0.6>1.5 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>3 APR 0>3
9X BWI-JST FEB 0>1.7 MAR 0>1.7 APR 0>1.7
9X BWI-LNS FEB 0>1.7 MAR 0>1.7 APR 0>1.7
9X BWI-MGW JAN 1.7>3 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>3 APR 0>3
9X DFW-DFW FEB 0>0.7 MAR 0>0.7 APR 0>0.7
9X DFW-ELD FEB 0>1.7 MAR 0>1.7 APR 0>1.7
9X DFW-HOT JAN 1.7>3 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>3 APR 0>3
9X DFW-HRO FEB 0>1.4 MAR 0>1.4 APR 0>1.4
9X DUJ-PIT JAN 3>4 FEB 0>4 MAR 0>4 APR 0>4
9X FKL-PIT JAN 1.2>3 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>3 APR 0>3
9X HGR-PIT FEB 0>0.9 MAR 0>0.8 APR 0>0.9
9X HRO-MEM FEB 0>0.9 MAR 0>0.8 APR 0>0.9
9X JHW-PIT JAN 1.7>3 FEB 0>4 MAR 0>4 APR 0>4
9X JST-PIT JAN 3>4 FEB 0>4 MAR 0>4 APR 0>4
9X LNS-PIT JAN 1.1>1.9 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>3 APR 0>3
9X MDT-PIT FEB 0>1.6 MAR 0>1.5 APR 0>1.6
9X MGW-PIT JAN 2>3 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>3 APR 0>3

AA BOS-LGA DEC 11>10 JAN 12>10
AA BOS-MDT DEC 0.8>0.6
AA BOS-PIT DEC 3>1.2
AA BOS-ROC DEC 3>1.1
AA BOS-SYR DEC 0.8>0.6
AA CLT-BHM DEC 8>7
AA CLT-CAE DEC 8>7
AA CLT-GSP DEC 8>7
AA CLT-HSV DEC 5>4
AA CLT-LAS DEC 5>4
AA CLT-LGA DEC 13>11
AA CLT-OAJ DEC 6>5
AA CLT-ROA DEC 7>6
AA CLT-SDF DEC 8>7
AA CVG-LGA DEC 3>1.5
AA DCA-ATL DEC 5>4
AA DCA-BOS DEC 14>11 JAN 15>13
AA DCA-LGA DEC 11>9 JAN 12>10
AA DCA-MSP DEC 3>1.8
AA DCA-RSW DEC 0.7>1.8
AA DFW-PSP DEC 1.5>3
AA DFW-SJT DEC 4>5
AA DFW-TYR DEC 5>4
AA IND-LGA DEC 3>1.5
AA JFK-DFW DEC 1.5>1.0
AA JFK-SFO DEC 6>4
AA LAX-BDL DEC 0.9>0.6
AA LAX-JFK DEC 12>11
AA LGA-STL DEC 5>4
AA MIA-EYW OCT 4>3 NOV 4>3
AA MIA-SNU OCT 1.0>0.0
AA MIA-STT OCT 4>3 NOV 4>3
AA MIA-SXM OCT 2.0>1.0 NOV 2>1.0 DEC 2>1.8
AA ORD-BNA DEC 9>8
AA ORD-CMI DEC 6>5
AA ORD-CVG DEC 7>6
AA ORD-EWR DEC 7>6
AA ORD-ICT DEC 4>3
AA ORD-LGA DEC 14>13 JAN 14>13
AA ORD-MKE DEC 5>4
AA ORD-PBI DEC 3>1.5
AA ORD-TVC DEC 3>4
AA ORD-XNA DEC 5>4
AA ORD-YYZ DEC 6>5
AA PHL-ABE DEC 3>1.9
AA PHL-BHM JAN 1.8>1.0
AA PHL-BOS JAN 11>8 FEB 11>9
AA PHL-BUF DEC 6>5
AA PHL-CVG DEC 6>5
AA PHL-DEN JAN 3>1.5 FEB 3>1.0
AA PHL-LAS FEB 4>3
AA PHL-MEM JAN 3>1.2 FEB 3>1.5 MAR 3>2 APR 3>2 MAY 3>2
AA PHL-MSP JAN 4>2.0 FEB 4>2
AA PHL-ORD DEC 9>8
AA PHL-PBI JAN 3>5 FEB 2>4
AA PHL-RDU DEC 8>7
AA PHL-RSW JAN 3>5 FEB 2>4
AA PHL-SAN JAN 3>1.3 FEB 3>1.0
AA PHL-SAV JAN 2>0.7 FEB 2>1.0
AA PHL-SEA JAN 4>1.1 FEB 4>1.0
AA PHL-SFO JAN 5>4 FEB 5>3
AA PHX-AUS DEC 4>3
AA PHX-BOI DEC 3>4
AA PHX-BOS DEC 4>3
AA PHX-BUR DEC 4>3
AA PHX-DFW DEC 12>13
AA PHX-DRO DEC 3>1.8
AA PHX-GDL DEC 0.9>1.4 JAN 1.0>1.2
AA PHX-LAX DEC 9>8
AA PHX-MCI DEC 3>1.8
AA PHX-PSP DEC 6>5
AA PHX-SBA DEC 5>4
AA PIT-RDU DEC 1.5>0.7

AB BOS-DUS OCT 1.0>0.4
AB JFK-TXL OCT 1.0>0.7
AB MCO-DUS OCT 0.7>0.5
AB MIA-TXL OCT 0.7>0.4

AC SAV-YYZ MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0

AM DTW-MEX FEB 1.0>0.9 MAR 1.0>0.8
AM ORD-MEX MAY 3>2
AM SFO-GDL APR 1.0>0.9 MAY 1.0>0.8
AM SLC-MEX JAN 0>0.1 FEB 0>0.1 MAR 0>0.2

AS LAX-STS DEC 3>2
AS PDX-BOI DEC 7>6
AS PDX-GEG DEC 7>6
AS SEA-GEG DEC 15>13
AS SEA-PDX DEC 24>23
AS SEA-YEG NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7
AS SEA-YKM DEC 4>3
AS SEA-YVR DEC 5>4
AS SEA-YYC DEC 3>2
AS SEA-YYJ DEC 4>3

BR SEA-TPE MAR 1.5>1.1 APR 1.6>1.0 MAY 1.6>1.0

CM LAS-PTY MAR 0.9>1.0 APR 0.9>1.0 MAY 0.8>1.0

DL ATL-BCN MAR 0.3>0 APR 1.0>0.4
DL ATL-BRU APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.8
DL ATL-EWR JAN 10>9
DL ATL-FCO MAY 1.3>1.0
DL ATL-LHR APR 3>2 MAY 3>2
DL ATL-LIS MAY 0>0.3
DL ATL-MAD APR 1.0>0.9
DL ATL-MDW JAN 6>5
DL ATL-MXP MAY 0.3>0.5
DL ATL-MYR JAN 4>3
DL ATL-VCE MAY 0.3>0.5
DL ATL-VPS JAN 6>5
DL AZO-MSP JAN 0.8>1.8
More MCO seasonal flying cuts
DL BHM-MCO JAN 0.2>0.1 FEB 0.2>0.1
DL BNA-MCO JAN 0.2>0.0 FEB 0.2>0.1
DL BUF-MSP JAN 0.6>0.1 FEB 0.7>0.3
DL CMH-MCO JAN 0.2>0.1 FEB 0.2>0.1
DL CMH-RSW FEB 0.2>0.1
DL DAY-MSP JAN 3>1.8
*DL DTW-CDG MAY 1.0>1.5
DL DTW-CHS JAN 1.0>0.1 FEB 1.0>0.5
DL DTW-CLE JAN 4>5
DL DTW-FCO APR 1.0>0.9 MAY 1.0>0.9
DL DTW-HSV JAN 0.9>0.5
DL DTW-LIT JAN 0.8>0 FEB 0.8>0.4
DL EWR-CDG APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.7
DL HNL-LAS JAN 0.4>0.1
DL HNL-NRT MAR 1.5>1.4 APR 1.1>1.0
*DL IND-CDG MAY 0>0.3
DL IND-RSW JAN 0.2>0.0 FEB 0.2>0.1
DL JFK-ARN MAY 0.3>0
DL JFK-ATH MAR 0.3>0 APR 1.0>0.4 MAY 1.3>1.0
DL JFK-EDI APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.8
DL JFK-KEF APR 1.0>0.7
DL JFK-LIS MAY 0.3>0.9
DL JFK-NCE MAR 0.3>0 APR 1.0>0.5
*DL JFK-PDL MAY 0>0.2
DL JFK-PRG MAY 0.9>0.7
DL JFK-SNN MAY 0.9>0.7
DL JFK-SVO MAY 0.3>0
DL LAX-SMF JAN 5>4
DL LAX-YVR JAN 1.9>1.1 FEB 2>1.5
DL LEX-MSP JAN 1.0>0.1 FEB 1.0>0.4
DL MIA-CMH FEB 0.2>0.1
DL MIA-IND FEB 0.2>0.1
DL MIA-RDU JAN 0.2>0.0 FEB 0.2>0.1
DL MSP-PBI JAN 0.7>0.3 FEB 0.7>0.5
DL MSP-SDF JAN 3>1.7
DL PHL-CDG MAY 0.3>0
DL RDU-CDG APR 1.0>0.9
DL SEA-DEN MAR 5>4
DL SEA-FLL JAN 0.2>0.1 FEB 0.3>0.1
DL SEA-PSP JAN 1.8>1.1
DL SEA-TUS JAN 1.0>0.7
DL SLC-AUS JAN 1.8>1.1
DL SLC-OAK JAN 3>2.0
DL SLC-SEA JAN 8>7 FEB 8>7

HA HNL-AKL MAR 0.5>0.6 APR 0.4>0.7 MAY 0.5>0.6

*HX SFO-HKG MAR 0>0.1 APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>0.5

J5 AGN-TKE OCT 2>1.2 NOV 1.9>1.1 DEC 1.9>1.1 JAN 1.9>1.1
J5 HNH-JNU JAN 1.9>4

What is this?
KAI KOA-OAK OCT 0.9>0

*KE IAH-ICN NOV 0.4>0 DEC 0.5>0 JAN 0.4>0 FEB 0.4>0 MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.7>0

KS ANC-DLG JAN 1.7>1.2
KS BFF-DEN OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.7>0 DEC 1.6>0 JAN 1.7>0
KS CDB-SDP OCT 0.4>0.2 NOV 0.4>0.2 JAN 0.4>0.2 MAR 0.4>0.1
KS CEC-PDX FEB 0>2 MAR 0>2 APR 0>2 MAY 0>2
KS DDC-DEN OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.9>0 DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.8>0
KS DDC-LBL OCT 0.8>0 NOV 0.8>0 DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.9>0
KS DEN-EAR OCT 2>0 NOV 2.0>0 DEC 1.9>0 JAN 2.0>0
KS DEN-LBF OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.7>0 DEC 1.6>0 JAN 1.7>0
KS DEN-LBL OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.9>0 DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.8>0

LF BNA-TUP DEC 3>4 JAN 0>5 FEB 0>5
LF BWI-MCN JAN 0>0.8

NK ATL-FLL JAN 3>4
NK DTW-CUN APR 0.7>0.9
*NK FLL-STT OCT 1.0>0.3 NOV 1.0>0.3 DEC 1.0>0.3 JAN 1.0>0.3 FEB 1.0>0.6
*NK FLL-SXM OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.1>0 DEC 0.2>0 JAN 0.1>0

PD EWR-YTZ JAN 12>11

PK JFK-LHE NOV 0>0.3 DEC 0>0.3 JAN 0>0.3 FEB 0>0.3 MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3

S3 MIA-CCS NOV 0.2>1.6 DEC 0>1.6 JAN 0>1.5 FEB 0>1.6 MAR 0>0.5

SY MSP-SXM JAN 0.1>0 FEB 0.1>0 MAR 0.2>0

UA EWR-PBI FEB 7>8 MAR 6>10 APR 6>9
UA EWR-PLS NOV 0.5>0.4
UA EWR-STT NOV 0.4>0.1 DEC 0.7>0.5
UA EWR-SXM NOV 0.4>0.1 DEC 0.8>0.6
UA IAD-DAY JAN 1.9>1.1 FEB 3>1.3 MAR 3>1.7 APR 3>1.7 MAY 3>1.7
UA IAD-ROA JAN 1.2>2
UA IAD-SXM NOV 0.1>0
UA IAD-TYS JAN 2>1.2 FEB 3>1.4 MAR 3>1.8 APR 3>1.9 MAY 3>1.9
UA IAH-MUC APR 0.9>0.7
UA IAH-STT DEC 0.2>0.1
UA ORD-BOS JAN 8>7
UA ORD-CID FEB 6>5
UA ORD-CLE MAR 10>11 APR 10>11 MAY 10>11
UA ORD-CMH FEB 7>6 MAR 7>6 APR 7>6 MAY 7>6
UA ORD-EWR JAN 8>9
UA ORD-GSO JAN 3>0.7 FEB 3>0.5 MAR 3>1.0 APR 3>1.0 MAY 3>1.0
UA ORD-GSP FEB 3>2 MAR 3>2 APR 3>2 MAY 3>2
UA ORD-HPN JAN 3>1.2 FEB 3>1.0 MAR 3>1.0 APR 3>1.0 MAY 3>1.0
UA ORD-JAN JAN 1.0>0.2 FEB 1.4>0.5
UA ORD-RIC JAN 4>5
UA ORD-ROC JAN 4>3 FEB 3>2 MAR 3>2 APR 3>2 MAY 3>2
UA ORD-STT DEC 0.2>0.1
UA ORD-SXM NOV 0.1>0

UP MIA-SVD OCT 0.1>0
UP ORD-NAS DEC 0.3>0

VS JFK-LHR APR 5>6 MAY 5>6

VVC MIA-MDE NOV 0.2>1.0 DEC 0>0.7

VX DAL-SEA MAR 1.0>0.3 APR 0.8>0

WK SAN-ZRH APR 0>0.3
WK TPA-ZRH APR 0.2>0.3

WW ORD-KEF MAR 0.5>0.6 APR 0>0.6
WW PIT-KEF MAR 0.4>0.5 APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>0.6

X4 AGN-TKE OCT 0>0.8 NOV 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
X4 ELV-JNU APR 0.1>1.0 MAY 0.2>1.0
X4 HNH-JNU JAN 2>0.1 FEB 1.1>0 MAR 1.0>0

YK MOB-FRU OCT 1.0>0 NOV 0.7>0
YK MOB-OSS OCT 1.0>0 NOV 0.7>0

ZK DEN-RIW OCT 1.5>0.3
ZK DEN-TEX OCT 1.3>0.9
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:11 pm

Out of all the Delta adds, Ponta Delgada is interesting. I thought most of that traffic came from New England?
I’m surprised AA would take frequencies off of CLT-LGA. I haven’t been on a not full flight in years on this route.
Finally, good to see VivaColombia back to MIA (didn’t they take IT out of the schedule a while back?)
And always, thanks Enilria
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:12 pm

*NK FLL-STT OCT 1.0>0.3 NOV 1.0>0.3 DEC 1.0>0.3 JAN 1.0>0.3 FEB 1.0>0.6
*NK FLL-SXM OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.1>0 DEC 0.2>0 JAN 0.1>0

Post-Irma and Post-Maria NK isn't even going to give SXM a go and is cutting STT.

*3M EYW-PBI DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.9>0 MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0

Also Irma related
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:26 pm

Lots of SXM cuts across the board.

enilria wrote:


YK MOB-FRU OCT 1.0>0 NOV 0.7>0
YK MOB-OSS OCT 1.0>0 NOV 0.7>0



Didn't realize there was such a big diaspora of Kyrgyzstan residents in LA (Lower Alabama). :lol:
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:33 pm

DL ATL-LHR APR 3>2 MAY 3>2


Interesting that we see Delta trimming it's ATL-LHR capacity by one flight.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:38 pm

Thanks as always enilria for this informative posting.

I see DL's JFK-LIS is staying and starting earlier event though they are adding ATL-LIS - which goes along with wider trends on Portugal capacity bumps. Also, while SVO and ARN are gone, so far TXL has stayed. I had heard a few rumors that it didn't do well, but correct me if I am wrong but so far we have not seen them cut it. Lots of other tinkering on Europe summer start dates. ATH and NCE both took hits out of JFK, but it looks like most cuts were offset by minor ads.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:39 pm

Aa is cutting a321t in December to 11 daily to lax and 4 to sfo. Not looking good. It loaded 7 daily to sfo for winter season. I don't see how that is even remotely going to happen. Maybe a couple of them will get rotated to fly bos to lax.

Also a lot of cuts at lga again. Are they year to year cuts? Or just loading more ahead of time?

Huge add by ua on ewr to pbi.

Also ua cutting on ord to hpn? Would they loose slots at hpn from doing this?

Also vx is out on sea to dal. Is that just being transferred to as?
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:39 pm

David (seven3seven), 9X is Southern Airways Express; callsign "Friendly," and fleet is Cessna Caravan/Piper Navajo equipment.

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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:40 pm

enilria wrote:
AA PHL-DEN JAN 3>1.5 FEB 3>1.0
AA PHL-LAS FEB 4>3
AA PHL-SAN JAN 3>1.3 FEB 3>1.0
AA PHL-SEA JAN 4>1.1 FEB 4>1.0
AA PHL-SFO JAN 5>4 FEB 5>3

I believe most of these just mirror W17 service. But man, AA's PHL-west coast winter service is atrocious. No wonder why PHL bleeds paxs to EWR and BWI. I also wonder if there aren't competitive pressures at play. PHL-DEN is a 4 way battle, and LAS/SFO are 3 way battles.

FWIW, the 332 remains on PHL-SFO through Feb.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:42 pm

Aa is cutting a321t in December to 11 daily to lax and 4 to sfo. Not looking good. It loaded 7 daily to sfo for winter season. I don't see how that is even remotely going to happen. Maybe a couple of them will get rotated to fly bos to lax.

Also a lot of cuts at lga again. Are they year to year cuts? Or just loading more ahead of time?

Huge add by ua on ewr to pbi.

Also ua cutting on ord to hpn? Would they loose slots at hpn from doing this?

Also vx is out on sea to dal. Is that just being transferred to as?
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:47 pm

enilria wrote:
UA ORD-HPN JAN 3>1.2 FEB 3>1.0 MAR 3>1.0 APR 3>1.0 MAY 3>1.0


This surprises me. To the point that I'm wondering if it could be a misfile.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:48 pm

MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:
*NK FLL-STT OCT 1.0>0.3 NOV 1.0>0.3 DEC 1.0>0.3 JAN 1.0>0.3 FEB 1.0>0.6
*NK FLL-SXM OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.1>0 DEC 0.2>0 JAN 0.1>0

Post-Irma and Post-Maria NK isn't even going to give SXM a go and is cutting STT.

*3M EYW-PBI DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.9>0 MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0

Also Irma related

SY MSP-SXM JAN 0.1>0 FEB 0.1>0 MAR 0.2>0
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:55 pm

tphuang wrote:
Aa is cutting a321t in December to 11 daily to lax and 4 to sfo. Not looking good. It loaded 7 daily to sfo for winter season. I don't see how that is even remotely going to happen. Maybe a couple of them will get rotated to fly bos to lax.

Also a lot of cuts at lga again. Are they year to year cuts? Or just loading more ahead of time?

Huge add by ua on ewr to pbi.

Also ua cutting on ord to hpn? Would they loose slots at hpn from doing this?

Also vx is out on sea to dal. Is that just being transferred to as?


LAX-JFK is reduced every winter and on every holiday.....and Saturdays year round. It's a business market and there isn't a lot of business going on in December.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:03 pm

ty97 wrote:
enilria wrote:
UA ORD-HPN JAN 3>1.2 FEB 3>1.0 MAR 3>1.0 APR 3>1.0 MAY 3>1.0


This surprises me. To the point that I'm wondering if it could be a misfile.

It is still loaded at 3 daily. This appears to be the ongoing transition to Air Wisconsin flying for United Express. For some reason it appears as a cut in these threads and then the following week as an add. I am assuming this is probably the case for a lot of the "cuts" to small stations from ORD and IAD this week.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:03 pm

ahj2000 wrote:
Out of all the Delta adds, Ponta Delgada is interesting. I thought most of that traffic came from New England?
I’m surprised AA would take frequencies off of CLT-LGA. I haven’t been on a not full flight in years on this route.
Finally, good to see VivaColombia back to MIA (didn’t they take IT out of the schedule a while back?)
And always, thanks Enilria


Yeah TWA operated Boston-Azores for much of the 1970's. JFK to the Azores for part of that time also.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:14 pm

So a subtle reduction in JFK-EDI for April and May?
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:24 pm

klm617 wrote:
DL ATL-LHR APR 3>2 MAY 3>2

Interesting that we see Delta trimming it's ATL-LHR capacity by one flight.


And I see VS is adding a flight, (JFK-LHR) in April and May, going from 5-6.

VS JFK-LHR APR 5>6 MAY 5>6

Is this an ATL-JFK trade-off for Summer 2018? Look like it could be.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:34 pm

ahj2000 wrote:
Out of all the Delta adds, Ponta Delgada is interesting. I thought most of that traffic came from New England?

Besides New England, there are large Azorean/Portuguese connected communities in New Jersey and California. DL could be trying to pull some NJ traffic along with (if timed correctly) connecting traffic from California.

Additionally, the Azores have been showing up on many "places to visit" lists the last few years. Tourism to those islands is growing.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:35 pm

PenAir returning to a market dropped, or just a filing mistake?
KS CEC-PDX FEB 0>2 MAR 0>2 APR 0>2 MAY 0>2

Also suspect the VS 6th daily JFK-LHR and DL reduction on ATL-LHR must be linked - the LHR slot has to be coming from somewhere. Looking at schedules available by both carriers, the new VS153/154 on JFK doesn't quite line up with the ATL schedule reduction but they must be connected somehow.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:46 pm

usairways85 wrote:
enilria wrote:
AA PHL-DEN JAN 3>1.5 FEB 3>1.0
AA PHL-LAS FEB 4>3
AA PHL-SAN JAN 3>1.3 FEB 3>1.0
AA PHL-SEA JAN 4>1.1 FEB 4>1.0
AA PHL-SFO JAN 5>4 FEB 5>3

I believe most of these just mirror W17 service. But man, AA's PHL-west coast winter service is atrocious. No wonder why PHL bleeds paxs to EWR and BWI. I also wonder if there aren't competitive pressures at play. PHL-DEN is a 4 way battle, and LAS/SFO are 3 way battles.

FWIW, the 332 remains on PHL-SFO through Feb.


AA's low frequency on PHL-DEN is the most surprising, but it was so this year's winter as well correct? AA does compete well on PHL-ATL with six daily flights this upcoming winter,even as ATL is another more mid con hub (than PHL is relatively) for two competing carriers and even though it overflies AA's CLT as well. I suppose AA picks it's battles, not willing to becoming irrelevant on PHL-ATL but is accept a third place position on PHL-DEN.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:56 pm

usairways85 wrote:
enilria wrote:
AA PHL-DEN JAN 3>1.5 FEB 3>1.0
AA PHL-LAS FEB 4>3
AA PHL-SAN JAN 3>1.3 FEB 3>1.0
AA PHL-SEA JAN 4>1.1 FEB 4>1.0
AA PHL-SFO JAN 5>4 FEB 5>3

I believe most of these just mirror W17 service. But man, AA's PHL-west coast winter service is atrocious. No wonder why PHL bleeds paxs to EWR and BWI. I also wonder if there aren't competitive pressures at play. PHL-DEN is a 4 way battle, and LAS/SFO are 3 way battles.

FWIW, the 332 remains on PHL-SFO through Feb.


Interestingly, the 332 appears to operate CLT-SFO-CLT for the peak December schedule, then reverts back to PHL in early January.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:14 pm

nutsaboutplanes wrote:
tphuang wrote:
Aa is cutting a321t in December to 11 daily to lax and 4 to sfo. Not looking good. It loaded 7 daily to sfo for winter season. I don't see how that is even remotely going to happen. Maybe a couple of them will get rotated to fly bos to lax.

Also a lot of cuts at lga again. Are they year to year cuts? Or just loading more ahead of time?

Huge add by ua on ewr to pbi.

Also ua cutting on ord to hpn? Would they loose slots at hpn from doing this?

Also vx is out on sea to dal. Is that just being transferred to as?


LAX-JFK is reduced every winter and on every holiday.....and Saturdays year round. It's a business market and there isn't a lot of business going on in December.

Can't comment on what it was last year. But just saw an article on onemilesatatime and bos lax will be getting 1 daily on a321t on holiday season.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:31 pm

enilria wrote:
What else bad could happen to 3M? They have zero luck with their network.

From a purely business risk perspective, I don't think you can build your while network in a hurricane zone and then say "woe is me" when a hurricane comes.

They should have some sort of insurance for this type of situation, but they probably don't.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:33 pm

VX DAL-SEA MAR 1.0>0.3 APR 0.8>0

As said last week, this flight will be flown on an AS E175 now.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:51 pm

Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:02 pm

enilria wrote:
FAQ

AA BOS-PIT DEC 3>1.2
AA BOS-ROC DEC 3>1.1
AA BOS-SYR DEC 0.8>0.6
AA PIT-RDU DEC 1.5>0.7


I don't see these routes making it to next summer, especially those BOS p2p routes that are operated by Air Wisconsin. ZW is transferring all of their own flying to UA and I doubt AA is gonna try and find another carrier to operate those routes. AA themselves seem like they want to slash out p2p flying all together. Although these cuts could just be normal since Dec is a slower month for business and demand would be lower.

This should probably be taken with a grain of salt, but I flew AA BOS-PIT last month on a Monday morning and the LF was very light (less than 20 people out of the 50 total seats onboard), compared to B6 who I took up had at least a 75% LF.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:17 pm

ZuluTime wrote:
PenAir returning to a market dropped, or just a filing mistake?
KS CEC-PDX FEB 0>2 MAR 0>2 APR 0>2 MAY 0>2


Being an EAS route, I think they said they planned to keep this route, or at least until a replacement was found. Maybe they ended up keeping it themselves.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:34 pm

DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.


My two cents:

1. The AS "meltdown" is probably temporary.
2. AS cutting flights doesn't create additional gate capacity for DL in SEA.
3. DL still needs to make money.
4. DL has other fish to fry as well.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:45 pm

DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.

SEA-FLL caters to cruise traffic
SEA-TUS/PSP loads and yields aren't there. There is little business traffic on these 2 and most of the traffic is retirees which continue to remain loyal to AS for the time being, which has a better network in the PNW to bring in the connecting traffic to satisfactorily fill their aircraft.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:58 pm

Interesting, AM is adding SLC after recently adding Guadalajara
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:01 pm

Wow, AeroMexico returns to SLC for what...the 4th - 5th time?
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:14 pm

Airlineroute this morning reports HX has already upped the 5x weekly HKG-SFO will go daily on 08.18.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:16 pm

enilria wrote:
9X DFW-DFW FEB 0>0.7 MAR 0>0.7 APR 0>0.7


Sightseeing flight? :duck:
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:22 pm

DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.


There is no AS meltdown.

BTW It looks to me like far far more DL transatlantic cuts than adds
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:29 pm

Bobloblaw wrote:
DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.


There is no AS meltdown.

BTW It looks to me like far far more DL transatlantic cuts than adds


if canceling hundreds of flights is not a meltdown then I am really sure what else is.

A lot of unhappy as flyers about this.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:39 pm

MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:

*3M EYW-PBI DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.9>0 MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0

Also Irma related


Key West wasn't affected, except for maybe a bit of water in Mallory Square & southern Duval. Lots of trees messed up (was just down there a few days ago with relief efforts).

Most of the damage was MM 10 - 40 (Big Coppitt to Big Pine) - which aren't that big with the tourists anyway, just 2nd homeowners. And those people will drive down from Palm Beach County to the Middle/Lower Keys.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:41 pm

Bobloblaw wrote:
DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.


There is no AS meltdown.


Ok, QX melt down. AS loyalists booking away in droves. I know I'm even booking away from QX flights right now. It looked nasty when I was last in Seattle - lots and lots of regional cancels - and the agent at the service center said none were weather or maintenance related.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:49 pm

usxguy wrote:
Bobloblaw wrote:
DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.


There is no AS meltdown.


Ok, QX melt down. AS loyalists booking away in droves. I know I'm even booking away from QX flights right now. It looked nasty when I was last in Seattle - lots and lots of regional cancels - and the agent at the service center said none were weather or maintenance related.



The vast majority of SEA loyal AS flyers fly on AS metal not QX. Top markets like LAX, SFO, SAN arent impacted
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:49 pm

Boutique (4B) continues to submit it schedules very late, sometimes less than a month out, making it look like all their markets are new. In reality, there are no changes from what it is today except for a couple seasonal frequency adjustments at CNY and VEL. I still subscribe to the American Express Skyguide and often the 4B schedules don't make the deadline.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:49 pm

WesternA318 wrote:
Wow, AeroMexico returns to SLC for what...the 4th - 5th time?



They had already returned with Guadalajara, this is another addition after the joint venture
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:56 pm

Sancho99504 wrote:
DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.

SEA-FLL caters to cruise traffic
SEA-TUS/PSP loads and yields aren't there. There is little business traffic on these 2 and most of the traffic is retirees which continue to remain loyal to AS for the time being, which has a better network in the PNW to bring in the connecting traffic to satisfactorily fill their aircraft.


PSP and TUS are January cuts only as far as I can tell, which is still before the high season in both TUS and PSP because it can still be cold and rainy. Things pick up in February. I am not sure it is fair to say the "loads and yields aren't there" in general, since both PSP and TUS are growing as high end tourist destinations - although I agree with you that most of the traffic would likely be more loyal to AS than DL.

Also as far as SEA-DEN goes it is not really a cut, as the "cut" listed above goes from 2x717 + 3xE75 to 4x717.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:03 pm

Sancho99504 wrote:
DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.

SEA-FLL caters to cruise traffic
SEA-TUS/PSP loads and yields aren't there. There is little business traffic on these 2 and most of the traffic is retirees which continue to remain loyal to AS for the time being, which has a better network in the PNW to bring in the connecting traffic to satisfactorily fill their aircraft.


That's why running SEA-FLL once a week makes sense for DL. It's essentially a shuttle for cruise passengers and not necessarily meant to compete with AS SEA-FLL service except for that niche market.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:34 pm

AS LAX-STS DEC 3>2
AS PDX-BOI DEC 7>6
AS PDX-GEG DEC 7>6
AS SEA-GEG DEC 15>13
AS SEA-PDX DEC 24>23
AS SEA-YEG NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7
AS SEA-YKM DEC 4>3
AS SEA-YVR DEC 5>4
AS SEA-YYC DEC 3>2
AS SEA-YYJ DEC 4>3


More Horizon fallout???
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:44 pm

DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.


Delta's cuts are Jan-Mar. Look at Sea-Tac seasonality. Winter traveler counts are way off from summer.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:35 pm

Runway28L wrote:
enilria wrote:
FAQ

AA BOS-PIT DEC 3>1.2
AA BOS-ROC DEC 3>1.1
AA BOS-SYR DEC 0.8>0.6
AA PIT-RDU DEC 1.5>0.7


I don't see these routes making it to next summer, especially those BOS p2p routes that are operated by Air Wisconsin. ZW is transferring all of their own flying to UA and I doubt AA is gonna try and find another carrier to operate those routes. AA themselves seem like they want to slash out p2p flying all together. Although these cuts could just be normal since Dec is a slower month for business and demand would be lower.

This should probably be taken with a grain of salt, but I flew AA BOS-PIT last month on a Monday morning and the LF was very light (less than 20 people out of the 50 total seats onboard), compared to B6 who I took up had at least a 75% LF.


ROC will be switching to PDT, they're refusing to let that route go. Unless DL or B6 picks it up, it remains a money maker for AA.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:53 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.


Delta's cuts are Jan-Mar. Look at Sea-Tac seasonality. Winter traveler counts are way off from summer.


Not only that, but there are only four changes. I'm not too sure what the fuss is all about.

Thanks, enilria. I look forward to this thread every Sunday.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:04 pm

phluser wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
enilria wrote:
AA PHL-DEN JAN 3>1.5 FEB 3>1.0
AA PHL-LAS FEB 4>3
AA PHL-SAN JAN 3>1.3 FEB 3>1.0
AA PHL-SEA JAN 4>1.1 FEB 4>1.0
AA PHL-SFO JAN 5>4 FEB 5>3

I believe most of these just mirror W17 service. But man, AA's PHL-west coast winter service is atrocious. No wonder why PHL bleeds paxs to EWR and BWI. I also wonder if there aren't competitive pressures at play. PHL-DEN is a 4 way battle, and LAS/SFO are 3 way battles.

FWIW, the 332 remains on PHL-SFO through Feb.


AA's low frequency on PHL-DEN is the most surprising, but it was so this year's winter as well correct? AA does compete well on PHL-ATL with six daily flights this upcoming winter,even as ATL is another more mid con hub (than PHL is relatively) for two competing carriers and even though it overflies AA's CLT as well. I suppose AA picks it's battles, not willing to becoming irrelevant on PHL-ATL but is accept a third place position on PHL-DEN.


AA has slowly been decreasing DEN over the past two years. They were at about 40 daily departures, now down to almost 30. That being said, they did announce a red eye JFK to start next year.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:17 pm

Bobloblaw wrote:
DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.


There is no AS meltdown.

BTW It looks to me like far far more DL transatlantic cuts than adds


Well whenever the US3's regional carriers have issues, it boils down to the mainline carrier, and AS is no exception. If it has an AS flight number, passengers don't know the difference. AS/QX is in a world of hurt for being cheap.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:32 pm

777Mech wrote:
Bobloblaw wrote:
DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.


There is no AS meltdown.

BTW It looks to me like far far more DL transatlantic cuts than adds


Well whenever the US3's regional carriers have issues, it boils down to the mainline carrier, and AS is no exception. If it has an AS flight number, passengers don't know the difference. AS/QX is in a world of hurt for being cheap.


You give AS SEA pax too little credit.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:44 pm

Bobloblaw wrote:
DDR wrote:
Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights.


There is no AS meltdown.

BTW It looks to me like far far more DL transatlantic cuts than adds


The cuts appear to be mostly just delayed seasonal start dates, not true frequency cuts.

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