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DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:09 am



Just saw this photo in the Top 5 on the Front-Page, the description says:

The DC-8 is fresh out of a paint hangar and awaiting for the delivery. The aircraft was reactivated and ferried from Kingman on May 26.


Date is September 2017. That Frame is now over 47 years old, delivered in 1970 to Trans International Airlines.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Douglas/DC-8/N873SJ-Skybus-Jet-Cargo/yYrKf7q7

Why would anyone bring a DC-8 back into Service in 2017? Aren't there much newer, more capable and less fuel-thirsty second-hand frames available these days? 762s ,763s, old 777s, classic 737s, old A320s and A330s. Perhaps even old 757s or did they all get picked up?

Why?
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:14 am

This is a re-engined (with CFM56) DC-8 and it may make economic sense if the costs are sufficiently low.
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:38 am

The DC-8, they'll still be around when dinosaurs re-inherit the earth.
 
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:44 am

flee wrote:
This is a re-engined (with CFM56) DC-8 and it may make economic sense if the costs are sufficiently low.


Yeah, I saw this of course. I don't think that there is any non-modded DC-8 left?

But even the modded DC-8s, they got CFM-56 engines, but this engine upgrade program was started in 1980 afaik and this frame got CFM-56 engines in October 1981. I guess it got a few engines changes since then, but i'm not sure if CFM put any work into the DC-8 engines and made them more efficient. Like does a DC-8 get the same engine as a 737-800NG on a 2017 engine change? I have no clue, but I guess not.

It just doesn't seem logical, but one can only hope they made their math and the accquisition costs were so low, that it is worth operating that dinosaur.


BTW from an enthusiasts point of few, I love it, I just don't get the economical point seeing what's stored in VCV and similar places.
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:57 am

Back in 2013, they've operated for Heavylift Cargo with another DC-8-70F that you can find in the "Historic" part of the link you provided. However I've no clue as to who Skybus Jet Cargo is. Here's a previous thread about them: viewtopic.php?t=1359609
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:38 am

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The DC-8, they'll still be around when dinosaurs re-inherit the earth.

I believe this actually signals the beginning of it. ;)
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:51 am

CARST wrote:
I don't think that there is any non-modded DC-8 left?


Actually yes, according to this interesting thread from a few months ago: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1366019&p=19638407&hilit=dc8#p19638407
I was surprised to read that as well.

It must have been ages since I last saw a DC8. As a kid, I lived close to AMS so I saw (and heard) them very often, with KL operating many of them. I also recall seeing the beautiful orange CP Air/ Canadian Pacific DC8s regularly at Schiphol.
 
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:08 am

Nice, I saw this particular airframe several times in FRA...


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Perhaps even old 757s or did they all get picked up?

I just came back from a business trip to China. On every airport I stopped there was at least one SF B757F and now there are even EMS B757Fs. I was asking myself if the demand for 757F's is exceeding the number of available airframes...
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:14 am

Here is a video of the preparations before the ferry flight from IGM (Kingman, AZ) to VCV in May 2017 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWF47PjGmik
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:50 pm

Thanks for the link to that video, 747classic! It's great.
I hope these guys will be able to make some money with it and to keep it flying for a long time.

BTW, the plane is just one month younger than I am. So it's not old at all :-)
 
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:54 pm

CARST wrote:


Just saw this photo in the Top 5 on the Front-Page, the description says:

The DC-8 is fresh out of a paint hangar and awaiting for the delivery. The aircraft was reactivated and ferried from Kingman on May 26.


Date is September 2017. That Frame is now over 47 years old, delivered in 1970 to Trans International Airlines.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Douglas/DC-8/N873SJ-Skybus-Jet-Cargo/yYrKf7q7

Why would anyone bring a DC-8 back into Service in 2017? Aren't there much newer, more capable and less fuel-thirsty second-hand frames available these days? 762s ,763s, old 777s, classic 737s, old A320s and A330s. Perhaps even old 757s or did they all get picked up?

Why?


I was told, about 25 years ago, by a check pilot at United, that the re-engined DC-8 and 762 were within 1-2% fuel burn of each other. The Douglas airframes of the day are more ruggedly built than anything similar in the air today.
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:19 am

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I was told, about 25 years ago, by a check pilot at United, that the re-engined DC-8 and 762 were within 1-2% fuel burn of each other. The Douglas airframes of the day are more ruggedly built than anything similar in the air today.


Just that the 767 has a cabin width of 4,70m compared to 3,50m for the DC-8. Also it only has two instead of four engines. Length for -300 is about the same, the -200 is a few meters shorter. Also spare parts will be more easily available for the 767 than the DC-8.

I mean, I love it, especially after seeing the video. But I'm still wondering if this has been brought back just for fun, sponsored by some rich a.nutter or if they really expect to make money with that baby.


Anyone know what Skybus Jet Cargo is doing? Where are they flying to? Are they doing contracted work for someone? Or just charter cargo ops on an on and off Basis? I can't even find a website.
 
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:32 am

Wow, i've seen her sitting at Kingman on a couple of occasions when I have swung by there, I am amazed and happy to see her flying again.

Just out of interest, and off topic, is that a Mi-24 in the video (in front of the hanger) ? and anyone have any idea what it's doing there ?
 
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:25 am

Great video! Man, where do I apply? Gotta find my old DC-8 manuals!
 
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:40 am

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Wow, i've seen her sitting at Kingman on a couple of occasions when I have swung by there, I am amazed and happy to see her flying again.

Just out of interest, and off topic, is that a Mi-24 in the video (in front of the hanger) ? and anyone have any idea what it's doing there ?



I saw the Mil-24 at Kingman 2 years ago, stored I believe. It's N114VS, if that's any help?
 
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:13 pm

CARST wrote:
flee wrote:
This is a re-engined (with CFM56) DC-8 and it may make economic sense if the costs are sufficiently low.


Yeah, I saw this of course. I don't think that there is any non-modded DC-8 left?

But even the modded DC-8s, they got CFM-56 engines, but this engine upgrade program was started in 1980 afaik and this frame got CFM-56 engines in October 1981. I guess it got a few engines changes since then, but i'm not sure if CFM put any work into the DC-8 engines and made them more efficient. Like does a DC-8 get the same engine as a 737-800NG on a 2017 engine change? I have no clue, but I guess not.

It just doesn't seem logical, but one can only hope they made their math and the accquisition costs were so low, that it is worth operating that dinosaur.


BTW from an enthusiasts point of few, I love it, I just don't get the economical point seeing what's stored in VCV and similar places.



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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:16 pm

It might have been a steal. If the airframe still has hours and cycles left on it, engines won't be an issue as there are plenty of those in various locations that equally could have enough meat on the bone.

It could even have been a super cheap lease deal if a lessor is paying storage on it. May as well generate something from it rather than paying the boneyard to hold it for them. Anyway, rejoice mightily as another beautiful DC-8 roars into the blue.
 
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Depending on where this frame will operate, four engines could be better suited than a 752 or 762.
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:51 pm

This really isn't all that surprising. The latest resurgence and reconfiguration of the 767-300ER into pure cargo aircraft has increased demand and purchase price.

Remember that the slightly increased fuel burn of the DC-8-70 over a 767-300ER is only affecting one third of the "cost pie". That is fuel. Another third is capital cost of the aircraft itself. I am going to guess that purchase price of the -8 is a fair bit less than a 767-300.

As airlines are searching for more 767-300s in good shape, we may see more inventive ideas like this.
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:58 pm

And there will be a few L-1011's perusing our skies again flying as contract aerial tankers for the military. Hats off to the people that are keeping these classics flying and not just on an air show circuit. I'm all for any classic to take to the skies once again. The DC-8 is built like a tank so I'm sure she has many more hours left in her bones.
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:02 pm

CARST wrote:


Just saw this photo in the Top 5 on the Front-Page, the description says:

The DC-8 is fresh out of a paint hangar and awaiting for the delivery. The aircraft was reactivated and ferried from Kingman on May 26.


Date is September 2017. That Frame is now over 47 years old, delivered in 1970 to Trans International Airlines.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Douglas/DC-8/N873SJ-Skybus-Jet-Cargo/yYrKf7q7

Why would anyone bring a DC-8 back into Service in 2017? Aren't there much newer, more capable and less fuel-thirsty second-hand frames available these days? 762s ,763s, old 777s, classic 737s, old A320s and A330s. Perhaps even old 757s or did they all get picked up?

Why?

It looks like there is a shortage of suitable freighters. Checking out your list of other contenders, there is no certified A330, A320 or 777 p2f programs, Amazon has all the available 767s locked up while also clogging the conversion pipeline. 757s and 734s are also getting converted at their max rate, so really no option than to check out the boneyard.

Heck, a 722F was just reactivated last week. For a company with I think 2 other DC8Fs already in service, reviving that frame out of IGM makes perfect sense.
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:09 pm

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Depending on where this frame will operate, four engines could be better suited than a 752 or 762.


NSP8 has been operating into SXM almost daily since Sept 12th. Would be great to see a DC-8 landing if only the Maho Beach cam was up and running
 
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:21 pm

Channex757 wrote:
It might have been a steal. If the airframe still has hours and cycles left on it, engines won't be an issue as there are plenty of those in various locations that equally could have enough meat on the bone.

It could even have been a super cheap lease deal if a lessor is paying storage on it. May as well generate something from it rather than paying the boneyard to hold it for them. Anyway, rejoice mightily as another beautiful DC-8 roars into the blue.


Considering what a tank the DC-8 was built as, speaking of hours and cycles left, how many DC-8s have actually "timed out" on hours/cycles (I mean they've reached the max the airframe is certified for, not because of hitting a D check) vs. being parked due to newer more efficient aircraft replacing them?

Another question: How many additional parked DC-8s are still out there that could potentially be brought back into service by someone? Where are most of the ex-UPS and ATI airframes these days?
 
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:23 pm

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Great video! Man, where do I apply? Gotta find my old DC-8 manuals!


Peru, actually. https://www.skybusaircargo.com/

Seems like they're based and licensed in Peru, but have a US office in Vegas.

These guys have a DC8 in VIP configuration, that looks very nice except for the cheesy bedspread and dated shower. I expect to see Playboy bunnies running around, given the 70s-80s interior. But it's still cool... Interestingly, if you look at the video linked above, you can see the VIP aircraft in the frame at Kingman.

They also have a combi, which I assume is a former ATI aircraft. And now this one, which oddly has a certificate date from 2015.

Heck, if they've got the pilots and some occasional business, kind of a nifty approach. Unless these old gals are running every day, with some TLC they can still run for a long time.

Peru's operator oversight ain't the greatest, and one has to hope that the crews will have an American safety culture from their American training (which their web site touts). After that horrible soccer team accident where very experienced pilots demonstrate poor airmanship in the critical-thinking/procedures area, that's always a concern. But some beautiful jets these lucky crews are flying.
 
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SPREE34 wrote:
Anyone know what Skybus Jet Cargo is doing? Where are they flying to? Are they doing contracted work for someone? Or just charter cargo ops on an on and off Basis? I can't even find a website.


See the post above.
 
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:12 pm

I wonder if that's another airframe for Samaritan's Purse? I haven't heard anything about them getting a second one, but they have been operating a DC-8 since early last year for humanitarian missions. The basic paint scheme looks to be similar.

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Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:38 pm

dtw9 wrote:
PlymSpotter wrote:
Depending on where this frame will operate, four engines could be better suited than a 752 or 762.


NSP8 has been operating into SXM almost daily since Sept 12th. Would be great to see a DC-8 landing if only the Maho Beach cam was up and running


Yep, Samaritan's Purse DC-8-72 N782SP has been very busy flying relief flights:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NSP8
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:39 pm

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arcticcruiser wrote:
Great video! Man, where do I apply? Gotta find my old DC-8 manuals!


Peru, actually. https://www.skybusaircargo.com/

Seems like they're based and licensed in Peru, but have a US office in Vegas.

These guys have a DC8 in VIP configuration, that looks very nice except for the cheesy bedspread and dated shower. I expect to see Playboy bunnies running around, given the 70s-80s interior. But it's still cool... Interestingly, if you look at the video linked above, you can see the VIP aircraft in the frame at Kingman.

They also have a combi, which I assume is a former ATI aircraft. And now this one, which oddly has a certificate date from 2015.

Heck, if they've got the pilots and some occasional business, kind of a nifty approach. Unless these old gals are running every day, with some TLC they can still run for a long time.

Peru's operator oversight ain't the greatest, and one has to hope that the crews will have an American safety culture from their American training (which their web site touts). After that horrible soccer team accident where very experienced pilots demonstrate poor airmanship in the critical-thinking/procedures area, that's always a concern. But some beautiful jets these lucky crews are flying.


Yes, I noticed the VIP one the video, too. Saw it in on the ramp in Vegas a few years back. Does it still fly much?
 
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:39 pm

I doubt if Samaritans Purse would fork out any $$ for another plane right now..The need every $ for operating expenses and relief supplies to Puerto Rico and other islands whacked by Irma and Maria. Lease on an as needed basis? maybe??
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:35 pm

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CARST wrote:


Just saw this photo in the Top 5 on the Front-Page, the description says:

The DC-8 is fresh out of a paint hangar and awaiting for the delivery. The aircraft was reactivated and ferried from Kingman on May 26.


Date is September 2017. That Frame is now over 47 years old, delivered in 1970 to Trans International Airlines.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Douglas/DC-8/N873SJ-Skybus-Jet-Cargo/yYrKf7q7

Why would anyone bring a DC-8 back into Service in 2017? Aren't there much newer, more capable and less fuel-thirsty second-hand frames available these days? 762s ,763s, old 777s, classic 737s, old A320s and A330s. Perhaps even old 757s or did they all get picked up?

Why?

It looks like there is a shortage of suitable freighters. Checking out your list of other contenders, there is no certified A330, A320 or 777 p2f programs, Amazon has all the available 767s locked up while also clogging the conversion pipeline. 757s and 734s are also getting converted at their max rate, so really no option than to check out the boneyard.

Heck, a 722F was just reactivated last week. For a company with I think 2 other DC8Fs already in service, reviving that frame out of IGM makes perfect sense.



Do you have the registration on the 722F that was activated?
 
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:54 pm

The DC8 series are very well build and less widespread fatigue damage has been observed, compared to other manufacturers aircraft of the same age.

Limit of validity for all DC8 series, if maintained according Airworthiness Limitation/Certification Maintenance Requirement (AWL/CMR) Document MDC 12K9006.

125.000 flight hours, 56.000 cycles.

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Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:15 pm

[quote="N14AZ"]Nice, I saw this particular airframe several times in FRA...


I am probably wrong on this, but this looks like a very old picture... the 747 in the back? And a LH 727? I wonder when this was taken...
 
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I am probably wrong on this, but this looks like a very old picture... the 747 in the back? And a LH 727? I wonder when this was taken...

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Mattokun wrote:
N14AZ wrote:
Nice, I saw this particular airframe several times in FRA...


I am probably wrong on this, but this looks like a very old picture... the 747 in the back? And a LH 727? I wonder when this was taken...


Photo says June 1985
 
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Spacepope wrote:
CARST wrote:


Just saw this photo in the Top 5 on the Front-Page, the description says:

The DC-8 is fresh out of a paint hangar and awaiting for the delivery. The aircraft was reactivated and ferried from Kingman on May 26.


Date is September 2017. That Frame is now over 47 years old, delivered in 1970 to Trans International Airlines.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Douglas/DC-8/N873SJ-Skybus-Jet-Cargo/yYrKf7q7

Why would anyone bring a DC-8 back into Service in 2017? Aren't there much newer, more capable and less fuel-thirsty second-hand frames available these days? 762s ,763s, old 777s, classic 737s, old A320s and A330s. Perhaps even old 757s or did they all get picked up?

Why?

It looks like there is a shortage of suitable freighters. Checking out your list of other contenders, there is no certified A330, A320 or 777 p2f programs, Amazon has all the available 767s locked up while also clogging the conversion pipeline. 757s and 734s are also getting converted at their max rate, so really no option than to check out the boneyard.

Heck, a 722F was just reactivated last week. For a company with I think 2 other DC8Fs already in service, reviving that frame out of IGM makes perfect sense.

Meanwhile new freighter order still doesn't seems to be picking up?
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N14AZ wrote:
Mattokun wrote:
I am probably wrong on this, but this looks like a very old picture... the 747 in the back? And a LH 727? I wonder when this was taken...

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Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:56 pm

I never thought I would see another one of these with wheels up. WOW! May she and her sisters fly as they were meant to be.
 
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FlyMKG wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
CARST wrote:


Just saw this photo in the Top 5 on the Front-Page, the description says:



Date is September 2017. That Frame is now over 47 years old, delivered in 1970 to Trans International Airlines.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Douglas/DC-8/N873SJ-Skybus-Jet-Cargo/yYrKf7q7

Why would anyone bring a DC-8 back into Service in 2017? Aren't there much newer, more capable and less fuel-thirsty second-hand frames available these days? 762s ,763s, old 777s, classic 737s, old A320s and A330s. Perhaps even old 757s or did they all get picked up?

Why?

It looks like there is a shortage of suitable freighters. Checking out your list of other contenders, there is no certified A330, A320 or 777 p2f programs, Amazon has all the available 767s locked up while also clogging the conversion pipeline. 757s and 734s are also getting converted at their max rate, so really no option than to check out the boneyard.

Heck, a 722F was just reactivated last week. For a company with I think 2 other DC8Fs already in service, reviving that frame out of IGM makes perfect sense.



Do you have the registration on the 722F that was activated?

It was on Skyliner last week but seems to have cycled off. Was delivered to Colombia, HK registration.
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Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:49 am

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Spacepope wrote:
CARST wrote:


Just saw this photo in the Top 5 on the Front-Page, the description says:



Date is September 2017. That Frame is now over 47 years old, delivered in 1970 to Trans International Airlines.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Douglas/DC-8/N873SJ-Skybus-Jet-Cargo/yYrKf7q7

Why would anyone bring a DC-8 back into Service in 2017? Aren't there much newer, more capable and less fuel-thirsty second-hand frames available these days? 762s ,763s, old 777s, classic 737s, old A320s and A330s. Perhaps even old 757s or did they all get picked up?

Why?

It looks like there is a shortage of suitable freighters. Checking out your list of other contenders, there is no certified A330, A320 or 777 p2f programs, Amazon has all the available 767s locked up while also clogging the conversion pipeline. 757s and 734s are also getting converted at their max rate, so really no option than to check out the boneyard.

Heck, a 722F was just reactivated last week. For a company with I think 2 other DC8Fs already in service, reviving that frame out of IGM makes perfect sense.

Meanwhile new freighter order still doesn't seems to be picking up?
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:51 am

Wonder what type of airworthiness certificate the survivors operate under?

Hard to believe Boeing is still paying product liability insurance for an aircraft where the modification program ended three decades ago, and new builds a decade earlier.
 
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:12 am

What about sim time? Are there many places around they can get time in?
 
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:29 am

Planesmart wrote:
Wonder what type of airworthiness certificate the survivors operate under?

Hard to believe Boeing is still paying product liability insurance for an aircraft where the modification program ended three decades ago, and new builds a decade earlier.


Boeing (TC holder) is still supporting the DC8 series, all remaining DC8's are operated under FAA Type Certificate 4A25, revision 41, dd. September 27th 2010, see : http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guida ... v%2041.pdf
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:37 pm

727200 wrote:
What about sim time? Are there many places around they can get time in?


ABX has one in Wilmington, Ohio.
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:25 pm

does it have a little bit of 'dust' on it? Except for this crew, I can't imagine it has gotten much usage.
 
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:06 pm

cschleic wrote:
Yes, I noticed the VIP one the video, too. Saw it in on the ramp in Vegas a few years back. Does it still fly much?


Here is the VIP 72F in the photo (VP-BHS) looking (and sounding) pretty great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtyakLG5v54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFTRllLXn2Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgGgG4LVp5U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BsI2C8UThg
 
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:20 pm

jupiter2 wrote:
The DC-8, they'll still be around when dinosaurs re-inherit the earth.


Well, DC-8's did bring Lord Xenu here to Teegeeack (oops I mean Earth) 75 million years ago.
 
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:08 pm

kjeld0d wrote:
jupiter2 wrote:
The DC-8, they'll still be around when dinosaurs re-inherit the earth.


Well, DC-8's did bring Lord Xenu here to Teegeeack (oops I mean Earth) 75 million years ago.


Made my day!!! Having watched the relevant South Park episode ("Tom Cruise won't come out of the closet!") I know exactly what you are talking about.
 
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:10 pm

SuperGee wrote:
Here is the VIP 72F in the photo (VP-BHS) looking (and sounding) pretty great:


Except that it's a DC8-72 passenger version; maybe I misunderstood what you were saying.
 
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:59 pm

wjcandee wrote:
SuperGee wrote:
Here is the VIP 72F in the photo (VP-BHS) looking (and sounding) pretty great:


Except that it's a DC8-72 passenger version; maybe I misunderstood what you were saying.


It was a typo on my part. There should have been no "F" after the VIP 72. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:25 am

I recall seeing DC-8's a few years ago for UPS at EWR. They sure look nice. I have been on of Transamerica's DC-8's JFK-SNN-JFK back in 1985.

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