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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:11 pm

While I like the current (I think perhaps slightly violet?) blue, I think a subdued darker and cooler tone would look more contemporary and suit the aesthetics that Lutfthansa seems to be leaning towards with their recent cabin colour palette.
Looking forward to seeing what they have come up with.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:11 pm

BlueSky1976 wrote:
I'm hoping for ... updated font, sort of like what QANTAS did with theirs. Now THAT would look classy!!


Please, just no. The new QF logotype is hateful and an attempt to stylise what Lufthansa have now is like walking that exact same road but now it has huge potholes and also landmines.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:12 pm

No matter what, users on this forum are going to dislike LH’s new livery. People have to adjust—the question is how this is going to look on a smoggy afternoon in LAX or PEK in two years. Given LH’s attention to their brand, I think they know what they’re doing, and the tail mock-up that was just posted actually looks pretty good despite my initial worries.

For reference, I thought CX’s rebrand was awful for leaving out red, but I’ve gotten used to it now. Same thing will happen with LH and yellow if they choose to leave it out. Then makes me wonder what happens to crew uniforms given the prominence of gold. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them announce a new uniform, or uniform updates, when they unveil their new livery.
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:22 pm

Maybe they'll be adding the 5 stars on the tail, just like on this uniform pin Image
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:41 pm

I would love the circle if it was offset like TK or AV rouge. Keeping the circle the way it is is just not contemporary.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:37 am

redcap1962 wrote:
KLDC10 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Lufthansa's first A350 that will feature the new livery has emerged from final assembly in TLS. Unfortunately, the tail fin is covered in plastic.

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MSN202 - Is the new Lufthansa tail livery hiding under the white plastic? by DigitalAirliners.com, on Flickr


If you zoom in very closely, it appears as though you can see the four lines which form the wing of the crane, the body below and the outline of a circle. If that is indeed the case, the crane appears to be quite small and placed quite low down on the vertical stabilizer. The color which can be seen on the tail also looks quite dark indeed.


If the crane really is there (and nothing else but pure blue on the tail), this is gonna be completely inbalanced! Will look awful IMHO!


If you look at what seems to be a covered winglet that pops up on the other side there seems to be a splash of yellow at the top where the underside is exposed. Also the blue on the tail along the exposed “line” seems to get more greyish as you go up towards the top. I wonder if the colour degrades or actually evolves into grey/silver the higher it gets. That being said the square patch, if it’s the tail exposed, is the same colour as what we see around the logo.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:05 am

Change for the sake of change is just ridiculous. There is NO reason for this; the LH livery is about as close to timeless a livery as we have left these days.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:41 am

EK413 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Lufthansa's first A350 that will feature the new livery has emerged from final assembly in TLS. Unfortunately, the tail fin is covered in plastic.

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MSN202 - Is the new Lufthansa tail livery hiding under the white plastic? by DigitalAirliners.com, on Flickr


Closer observation would appear LH have followed MH foot steps going with a dark tone and the crane is white :banghead: :roll: :?

EK413

They say it’s silver.

Honestly? I like the latest renderings. It might look fantastic on the A350.

The A380 looks like an UTA-remembrance jet. :-)
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:01 am

N14AZ wrote:
EK413 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Lufthansa's first A350 that will feature the new livery has emerged from final assembly in TLS. Unfortunately, the tail fin is covered in plastic.

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MSN202 - Is the new Lufthansa tail livery hiding under the white plastic? by DigitalAirliners.com, on Flickr


Closer observation would appear LH have followed MH foot steps going with a dark tone and the crane is white :banghead: :roll: :?

EK413

They say it’s silver.

Honestly? I like the latest renderings. It might look fantastic on the A350.

The A380 looks like an UTA-remembrance jet. :-)


I’m really concerned with these latest images. Really concerning! The LH livery is classy and ain’t broke!

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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:08 am

Fabrice95 wrote:
redcap1962 wrote:
If the crane really is there (and nothing else but pure blue on the tail), this is gonna be completely inbalanced! Will look awful IMHO!


The crane appears stylized but the position of those lines matches the current one almost exactly. A quick overlay looks something like this (using the current crane design):

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Well excuse me, but that would be absolutely awesome...

The dark blue-grey combined with the silver look very classy. The logo is not ridiculously stretched all the way to the edges, or offset which i think is just a short-lived design trend. And i would love it if they keep the crane like that.

That would be a refinement that is bold and modern but with a lot of respect to it's heritage. No desperate attempt to be noticed, but a calm and confident advancement. Very exciting
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:20 am

If it's really that darker blue and the silver crane as shown on the A350 rendering I've got to say, I acctually quite like it. Provided they didn't go for that Joon-livery for the rest of the aircraft.
On the actual A350 picture it's also visible that the new crane design will probably adjust the cranes wings a little. It looks like the four stripes are now in line with the cranes tail. Also the lines appear to be thinner compared to the old design.
Something else is notable when you compare it to the Thai aircraft: obviously the lower part of the leading edge could have been painted in what ever color Lufthansa would like to. While the upper part has to be silver (I guess for the de-icing system) the lower part on the Thai aircraft is painted in the same color as the rest of the tail, while on the LH aircraft it's also silver (slightly different from the upper part though). Maybe that's a give-away of how the livery will extend down onto the fuselage?
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:28 pm

Dutch website upinthesky suggests that this is how LHs new livery will look like:
https://www.upinthesky.nl/2018/01/22/lufthansa-krijgt-nieuwe-livery-is-m/
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It reminds me of Corsair...
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:29 pm

I think it would be really sad if LH got rid of the yellow altogether. LH yellow has become extremely iconic, unlike combinations of white and blue. It would be the first LH livery since its foundation without any yellow.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:35 pm

MrGtheSheepA346 wrote:
Dutch website upinthesky suggests that this is how LHs new livery will look like

Hmm, that would not fit to the covered A350 tail fin shown above.
MrGtheSheepA346 wrote:
Dutch website upinthesky suggests that this is how LHs new livery will look like:
It reminds me of Corsair...

... and me of Finnair.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:39 pm

Better than the Joon variant.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:12 pm

Looks like Tarom!
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:14 pm

MrGtheSheepA346 wrote:
Dutch website upinthesky suggests that this is how LHs new livery will look like:
https://www.upinthesky.nl/2018/01/22/lufthansa-krijgt-nieuwe-livery-is-m/


It doesn't fit at all with what we can see under the plastic of the A350 pictured yesterday in TLS. Nice try, though.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:50 pm

Fabrice95 wrote:
redcap1962 wrote:

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If it ends up being similar to this, all LH has done is copy AC's tail...
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:55 pm

bebaddogood wrote:
Maybe they'll be adding the 5 stars on the tail, just like on this uniform pin Image


Ouch, that would look very cheap and nasty. Nothing classy about that.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:22 pm

hispanola wrote:
Fabrice95 wrote:
redcap1962 wrote:

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If it ends up being similar to this, all LH has done is copy AC's tail...


That isn't too bad, as long as Lufthansa doesn't copy that mask..... :vomit:
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:26 pm

Looking at all the rumours motivated me to get back to livery designing after a few years hiatus due to studies. This is my take.
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:29 pm

N14AZ wrote:
MrGtheSheepA346 wrote:
Dutch website upinthesky suggests that this is how LHs new livery will look like:
It reminds me of Corsair...

... and me of Finnair.


What, this isn't Finnair?
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:40 pm

MrGtheSheepA346 wrote:
Dutch website upinthesky suggests that this is how LHs new livery will look like:
https://www.upinthesky.nl/2018/01/22/lufthansa-krijgt-nieuwe-livery-is-m/
Image
It reminds me of Corsair...


That'll work well on the CRJs...
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:47 pm

MrGtheSheepA346 wrote:
Dutch website upinthesky suggests that this is how LHs new livery will look like:
https://www.upinthesky.nl/2018/01/22/lufthansa-krijgt-nieuwe-livery-is-m/
Image
It reminds me of Corsair...


I bet, nobody in the Board of Directors at Lufty has the cojones to put his signature under this design... :hyper:

Having said that, maybe there is another plastic cover under the plastic cover :D
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:24 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Lufthansa's first A350 that will feature the new livery has emerged from final assembly in TLS. Unfortunately, the tail fin is covered in plastic.

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MSN202 - Is the new Lufthansa tail livery hiding under the white plastic? by DigitalAirliners.com, on Flickr


Guys, i've been using PhotoShop for a living for about 20 years. I've thrown everything i know at this pic but honestly, i can't find any trace of the crane at all.

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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:24 pm

Have you tried looking in the gap between the fin and the rudder?
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:31 pm

CarbonFibre wrote:
Have you tried looking in the gap between the fin and the rudder?


That could indeed be the crane... But the coating covers everything else.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:35 pm

redcap1962 wrote:
MrGtheSheepA346 wrote:
Dutch website upinthesky suggests that this is how LHs new livery will look like:
https://www.upinthesky.nl/2018/01/22/lufthansa-krijgt-nieuwe-livery-is-m/
Image
It reminds me of Corsair...


I bet, nobody in the Board of Directors at Lufty has the cojones to put his signature under this design... :hyper:

Having said that, maybe there is another plastic cover under the plastic cover :D
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I wondered that too. The blue in the top of the winglet with a dab of yellow is a lighter blue than the tail.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:59 pm

Bambel wrote:
CarbonFibre wrote:
Have you tried looking in the gap between the fin and the rudder?


That could indeed be the crane... But the coating covers everything else.

It is clearly the crane encircled. Top white line top of the circle, followed (going down) by 4 white lines right next to each other which are the four feathers in the crane wing, another line from the tail of the crane, then another white line being the bottom of the circle.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:37 pm

MrGtheSheepA346 wrote:
Dutch website upinthesky suggests that this is how LHs new livery will look like:
https://www.upinthesky.nl/2018/01/22/lufthansa-krijgt-nieuwe-livery-is-m/
Image
It reminds me of Corsair...

I just realise that there is a major mistake in that rendering. Look at the head of the crane. It would be on the top of the fuselage.

Furthermore, I very much doubt they would put the letters between the windows (would be very un-German...).
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:01 pm

As per "CoolerName" on airliners.de, D-ABYA will be ferried back to FRA all white & with the livery hidden.
Probably some kind of stickers to hide it.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:59 am

That makes me guess that there will be no big changes on the fuselage. Would be much effort to cover the whole tail (something like the Joon style) with stickers. Bet also, they will ferry it in the middle of the night!
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:23 am

Well - I have seen that somewhere not far

 
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:33 pm

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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:38 pm

LH526 wrote:
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As much as I dislike Eurowhite colour scheme, I must say that something like this blank and white only colour would seem an improvement from current livery (yellow+blue+greysh+white)!
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:39 pm

LH526 wrote:
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Ooops... Did someone just post confidential, internal - only info??? xD
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:40 pm

I think LH526 has it right. That looks to be the new tail logo when comparing it with the tail photo with the gap showing the partial LH logo. Now I wonder what the rest of the aircraft will look like. Maybe just a different type of letter font in larger format on the all-white fuselage?

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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:10 pm

OMG - If they start talking about how the colours represent the geography of Canada...errr -Germany....I'll have to throw up my hands in the air. ;-P
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:14 pm

redcap1962 wrote:
That makes me guess that there will be no big changes on the fuselage. Would be much effort to cover the whole tail (something like the Joon style) with stickers. Bet also, they will ferry it in the middle of the night!


Negative...latest landing possible is 23:59local due to the night curfew at FRA.
It is pitch black by then...true...

LH526 wrote:
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Well...it doesn't look as bad as I thought it would be...still this all white fuselage doesn't appeal to me right away...
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:33 pm

If that's it, it's a big yawn...hope the body is at least silver. Not even colored winglets? Must be cheap to repaint?
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:35 pm

Sorry, but as a LH fan and former employee, I find this unimaginative, uninspiring, boring, and frankly too conservative. A smaller, silver crane sitting lower on the tail, a darker blue (almost black) background, and boring white everywhere else. Yawn.
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:36 pm

bully707 wrote:
redcap1962 wrote:
That makes me guess that there will be no big changes on the fuselage. Would be much effort to cover the whole tail (something like the Joon style) with stickers. Bet also, they will ferry it in the middle of the night!


Negative...latest landing possible is 23:59local due to the night curfew at FRA.
It is pitch black by then...true...

LH526 wrote:
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Well...it doesn't look as bad as I thought it would be...still this all white fuselage doesn't appeal to me right away...


The real thing will look nicer, no worries;-)
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:54 pm

bully707 wrote:

Negative...latest landing possible is 23:59local due to the night curfew at FRA.
It is pitch black by then...true...


2259loc actually.
Although they could apply for one of the limited availability night slots. I'm just not sure that would be worth the hassle.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:01 pm

OlafW wrote:
bully707 wrote:

Negative...latest landing possible is 23:59local due to the night curfew at FRA.
It is pitch black by then...true...


2259loc actually.
Although they could apply for one of the limited availability night slots. I'm just not sure that would be worth the hassle.


Especially now that the new c/s is leaked :bouncy:
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:08 pm

LH526 wrote:
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Well, they kept their promise - a little bit of yellow has been left in the new livery... (see the :whiteflag: next to the registration)
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:11 pm

Maybe there is a reason we only got a tail shot? Maybe LH will pull a Norwegian and go with a silver nose/forward section/condom? Or maybe yellow? Or dark blue?
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:33 pm

I don't think an aircraft's livery matters that much. I'm sure most customers don't care about it, and care more about how the onboard experience is instead.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:46 pm

So basically a Cathay style of revised livery. Not that bad, I like the silver crane and the dark background. Still waiting to see the entire thing though.
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:39 pm

NichCage wrote:
I don't think an aircraft's livery matters that much. I'm sure most customers don't care about it, and care more about how the onboard experience is instead.

Companies spend a small fortune because they value the brand, get it wrong and the backlash can be a huge pain. There's a reason the BA world tails went away...
 
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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:50 pm

NichCage wrote:
I don't think an aircraft's livery matters that much. I'm sure most customers don't care about it, and care more about how the onboard experience is instead.


You might be right that livery doesn't matter in and of itself. However branding matters a lot. A distinctive and striking brand can create a lasting impression, often a very positive one. And the biggest canvas available is the aircraft itself, so airline branding necessarily starts and ends there. So I think you are wrong. Also, big airlines spend tens of millions of dollars just coming up with a new livery, so it must be important.

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