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Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:30 pm

A translation of an interesting article about the HFB 600 Vertibus:


In 1969, the German company Hamburger Flugzeugbau launched the idea of a new short-haul Aircraft that they thought would be a big success for the German airline Lufthansa.

The aircraft was named HFB 600 Vertibus - Vertibus because the plane could take off vertically without using a runway. With its four lifting engines that were to deliver 19,180 lbt for each engine and four cruising engines with 19,475 lbt on each, the plane could lift from the ground and 10 kilometers into the air in six minutes using the combined eight gas turbines.

The maximum distance was planned to be 900 kilometers with all seats full of passengers. The manufacturar planned for a civilian and military edition. The civilian edition were to be able to accommodate up to 90 passengers.

The aircraft were to be manufactured for domestic use in countries such as Germany, France and Spain.

The year after the launch of plans for the aircraft type, the manufacturer was bought by Messerschmitt-Bölkow and thus ended the drawings in a drawer. It has recently been argued that the Avro RJ 85 aircraft are largely based on the HFB 600 drawings, but this is not officially confirmed.

Lufthansa never showed a great interest in the aircraft type. The airline had just received its first Boeing 737 when the proposal for the vertical plane arrived, so the interest was not that big for another type of aircraft with 100 passengers.


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http://www.hangar.no/1969-flyet-som-sku ... rullebane/
 
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:34 pm

looks like the BAe146 and YC-15 had a drunken night together and this was the result
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:48 pm

8 engines 4 short haul!
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:13 pm

Yeah, I think it is quite obvious why this aircraft never was.
 
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:44 pm

Messy wings. Lift would have been nonexsistent.
 
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:58 pm

What was the plan or procedure for an engine failure during vertictal liftoff or landing? Where on those engines would the downward thrust have been generated??
 
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:15 pm

Regn should have been D-AFTY.
 
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:40 pm

Presumably the intention was to take off from city centres, otherwise there is no benefit from nor needing a runway, I can just imagine the noise and pollution impact!
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:05 pm

Love old plane concepts like this from the 60's, always makes me hark back to planes like the vfw 614, now everything is lean managed and streamlined and generic to a point.

Maybe an old engineer thought this is how we can keep templehof going?
 
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:18 am

HFB 230 Hansa Jet has some resemblance in places. Similar cockpit window layout and same tip tanks on the Hansa Jet. Of course Hansa was unique in that it had the forward swept wings.
 
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:55 am

Zachbt wrote:
Love old plane concepts like this from the 60's, always makes me hark back to planes like the vfw 614, now everything is lean managed and streamlined and generic to a point.


I'm on with you on this. :-) I love how the '60 were a hopeful, positive period of phantasy/vanity projects... a very space-age-ish and sleek decade!
 
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:57 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_31

..an interesting German cousin... fascinating bird!
 
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:15 pm

26point2 wrote:
HFB 230 Hansa Jet has some resemblance in places. Similar cockpit window layout and same tip tanks on the Hansa Jet. Of course Hansa was unique in that it had the forward swept wings.


They were a pretty busy bunch:
http://www.fzt.haw-hamburg.de/pers/Scho ... HFB320.pdf
( mostly HFB320 material but look on p29 ( next at p30 :-)
... and you see the migration patterns of German engineers post WWII.


DO32: HFB was involved in the (earlier) Do 32 programme
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Re: Interesting aircraft that never was: The HFB 600 Vertibus

Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:21 pm

BN727227Ultra wrote:
Messy wings. Lift would have been nonexsistent.

That rendering looks awful. Did they have different laws of physics back then in 1969?

Despite the technical issues, that rendering looks rather like a comic...

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