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FSDan wrote:I'm not entirely surprised that demand hasn't dropped. The shooting was pretty clearly a one-off incident, and as far as I'm aware it hasn't caused long term closures of the city's main attractions. This type of incident seems just as likely to occur in any other major city in the U.S., so why would people specifically avoid Las Vegas because of it? When you have a string of related incidents that keep happening (e.g. kidnappings in Mexico a few years ago, or terror attacks and political unrest in Egypt), that's when I'd expect demand to drop.
Rajeev Lalwani
And then Glen a quick one for you. As far as the demand outlook into the fourth quarter, you talked a little bit about the Caribbean but are you seeing any lingering impacts from events from we saw in Las Vegas and Florida and some other places like Mexico for example.
Glen Hauenstein
So each one is probably a different story, I think the most surprising is Vegas because you can see an impact from Vegas throughout this past week and the horrible events that happened out there. And so that was a surprise. And I hope it's not a sad commentary on the human state that we're getting used to this. But from the indications of what we see in terms of demand in Vegas it would indicate that there is not a material decline in traffic to and from Vegas. The Caribbean is a very different story. The infrastructure in a lot of places was damaged or destroyed and that's going to take a little bit longer time.
Prost wrote:Ed didn’t say this, it was Glen Hauenstein.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/411296 ... art=singleRajeev Lalwani
And then Glen a quick one for you. As far as the demand outlook into the fourth quarter, you talked a little bit about the Caribbean but are you seeing any lingering impacts from events from we saw in Las Vegas and Florida and some other places like Mexico for example.
Glen Hauenstein
So each one is probably a different story, I think the most surprising is Vegas because you can see an impact from Vegas throughout this past week and the horrible events that happened out there. And so that was a surprise. And I hope it's not a sad commentary on the human state that we're getting used to this. But from the indications of what we see in terms of demand in Vegas it would indicate that there is not a material decline in traffic to and from Vegas. The Caribbean is a very different story. The infrastructure in a lot of places was damaged or destroyed and that's going to take a little bit longer time.
FSDanThis type of incident seems just as likely to occur in any other major city in the U.S., so why would people specifically avoid Las Vegas because of it? [/quote]
To the extent LAS and MCO compete, the theme parks have entry security that pretty much prevents this type of mass incident inside the grounds whereas in Vegas it is just open city. [quote="DDR wrote:Thanks for posting this. This is completely different in text to what the OP posted. It’s nice to see the truth.
FA9295 wrote:Why the hell hasn't DL set up a hub at LAS yet? The airport clearly has the capacity to support a hub for the airline, being that they're setting up temporary routes from NRT, ICN, CDG, AMS, YYZ and many other domestic routes as well for CES 2018... I'm sure DL could support these routes year-round...
FA9295 wrote:Why the hell hasn't DL set up a hub at LAS yet?
LAX772LR wrote:FA9295 wrote:Why the hell hasn't DL set up a hub at LAS yet?
Because it doesn't offer them any synergies that the combination of LAX+SLC+SEA don't already.
Being infested with WN and G4 probably doesn't help.
LAX772LR wrote:FA9295 wrote:Why the hell hasn't DL set up a hub at LAS yet?
Because it doesn't offer them any synergies that the combination of LAX+SLC+SEA don't already.
Being infested with WN and G4 probably doesn't help.
LAX772LR wrote:FA9295 wrote:Why the hell hasn't DL set up a hub at LAS yet?
Because it doesn't offer them any synergies that the combination of LAX+SLC+SEA don't already.
Being infested with WN and G4 probably doesn't help.
FA9295 wrote:Why the hell hasn't DL set up a hub at LAS yet? The airport clearly has the capacity to support a hub for the airline, being that they're setting up temporary routes from NRT, ICN, CDG, AMS, YYZ and many other domestic routes as well for CES 2018... I'm sure DL could support these routes year-round...
Nola wrote:I wish they would set up MSY-LAX. They used to have an overnight LAX-LAS-MSY flight (years ago) which wasn't a lot of fun, but one or two daily RJ's would probably do very well.