lightsaber wrote:KICT wrote:Have they announced the first routes yet? Would be interesting if we see the return of routes like SNA-HNL.
SNA is too short for the A321NEO. However, I couldn't find the takeoff weight versus runway length charts for the certified engines. Does anyone have a link to those charts?
I would expect lower demand markets with decent runway lengths. Since HA talked about DEN early on, easily within the A321NEO range as fuel burn targets were exceeded.
But more likely, is a direct flight from (in the order I would guess):
1. LAX (to practice, or SAN due to maintenance availability
HA will also up frequency. I will be surprised if at least one widebody route doesn't become all A321 (with more frequency).
Late edit, I left my window open and missed this link, Thanks KarelXWB!
Opening existing cities to OGG makes sense too. But I think my above list will see the NEO, albeit maybe not LAX if PDX starts first.
I'm not sure why HA would want to go head to head with UA in DEN when they would almost entirely rely on O&D that is already being covered by UA. UA also has feed from surrounding states and points east of the Rockies.
My initial thoughts are that HA will go head to head with AS for market share from the Neighbhor Islands to secondary West Coast cities and defend its position against incoming WN which will be starting from CA gateways first.
They've already announced OGG-PDX, KOA-LAX, LIH-OAK. I think we'll continue to see more of these routes.
I'd expect to see the following long before DEN or SLC.
Maybe we even see routes like FAT/GEG/RNO-Hawaii (HNL)