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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:48 am

Any info on the official retirement flight?
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:23 am

Super80Fan wrote:
Managed to fly N984TW today from DFW to TUL, the last MD-80 ever built. Probably my last AA MD-80 flight as well.

And as a data point, we for some odd reason left out of Terminal A, surrounded by 738's and A321's while most of the other MD80's leaving were out of Terminal C.

My flight to IAD on an MD80 two weeks ago left from A as well.
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:38 am

Missed the MD80 by two months

I remembered when I book my YYZ-DFW flight last year for the coming April, it showed MD80 but now it has changed to 738.

Hopefully, there will be some last minute equipment change but it is highly unlikely.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:16 am

Austin787 wrote:
AUS was 100% MD-80s for many years. Recently, 737s, A319s, and even A321s have started taking over AA's AUS flights.


That's true but why was that???
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Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:20 pm

is there is a map of current s80 destinations?
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:56 pm

Any news on which flight will be the last?
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:38 pm

Rumor has it that the last day AA will fly the MD-80 will be September 5, 2019
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:44 pm

WN732 wrote:
Any news on which flight will be the last?


DFW-ROW, but it won't be a revenue flight! ;)
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:51 pm

Getting mine hopefully booked in for May. Houston to DFW.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:34 am

nomorerjs wrote:
WN732 wrote:
Any news on which flight will be the last?


DFW-ROW, but it won't be a revenue flight! ;)


Lol well I set myself up for that one!
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:49 am

aaflyer222 wrote:
is there is a map of current s80 destinations?


Not sure if there is a map, but quite a few cities from Dallas.

Memphis
Columbus
Jacksonville
San Antonio
Cleveland
Tulsa
Kansas City
Louisville
Omaha
Nashville
New Orleans
Austin
St Louis
Milwaukee
Raleigh
Wichita
Charleston
Cincinnati
Indianapolis
Oklahoma City

The cities receiving service from AA on MD80s is relatively similar to how Delta uses their MD88s from ATL
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:17 am

WN732 wrote:
Any news on which flight will be the last?


We don't know yet from where it will depart, but we do know for sure it will arrive in DFW. ORD recently lost the MD-80, the last three MD-80 routes were ORD-STL, ORD-MSP and ORD-RDU, these are now 738s with a few Eagle flights squeezed in. ORD-DFW which used to be all Super 80 since the mid 90s sees now the 738 and the 788, yes 788 believe it or not, with one or two A321s squeezed in. ORD-LGA which also used to be all Super 80 since the mid 90s, is now all 738. I remember when ORD-LGA was all 727.
The ORD hub, now MD-80 free, sees a lot of 738s.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:19 pm

September 5th is the last day.

Bye bye!
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:44 pm

Makes sense as that is right after Labor Day. Just rode on one last Saturday. Fell asleep in that comfy F seat after a couple of drinks (falling asleep in the 737 F seat isn't easy) to be awoken as the a/c banged down on the runway at DFW.
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:16 pm

Newbiepilot wrote:
aaflyer222 wrote:
is there is a map of current s80 destinations?


Not sure if there is a map, but quite a few cities from Dallas.

Memphis
Columbus
Jacksonville
San Antonio
Cleveland
Tulsa
Kansas City
Louisville
Omaha
Nashville
New Orleans
Austin
St Louis
Milwaukee
Raleigh
Wichita
Charleston
Cincinnati
Indianapolis
Oklahoma City

The cities receiving service from AA on MD80s is relatively similar to how Delta uses their MD88s from ATL



Add Des Moines. Flying them in April DSM-DFW on the S80
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:07 pm

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September 5th is the last day.

Bye bye!


Are you finding any MD-80 flights currently on the schedule for Sept 5th? I can only find them up to Sept 3.
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:33 pm

They will be missed.
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:54 pm

himarhernandez wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:
aaflyer222 wrote:
is there is a map of current s80 destinations?


Not sure if there is a map, but quite a few cities from Dallas.

Memphis
Columbus
Jacksonville
San Antonio
Cleveland
Tulsa
Kansas City
Louisville
Omaha
Nashville
New Orleans
Austin
St Louis
Milwaukee
Raleigh
Wichita
Charleston
Cincinnati
Indianapolis
Oklahoma City

The cities receiving service from AA on MD80s is relatively similar to how Delta uses their MD88s from ATL



Add Des Moines. Flying them in April DSM-DFW on the S80


El Paso also. DFW-ELP still has one MD-80 flight a day. I believe ELP is the only airport west of DFW that still sees the MD-80, ABQ lost it recently. The West Coast no longer sees the MD-80.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:28 pm

American 767 wrote:
himarhernandez wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:

Not sure if there is a map, but quite a few cities from Dallas.

Memphis
Columbus
Jacksonville
San Antonio
Cleveland
Tulsa
Kansas City
Louisville
Omaha
Nashville
New Orleans
Austin
St Louis
Milwaukee
Raleigh
Wichita
Charleston
Cincinnati
Indianapolis
Oklahoma City

The cities receiving service from AA on MD80s is relatively similar to how Delta uses their MD88s from ATL



Add Des Moines. Flying them in April DSM-DFW on the S80


El Paso also. DFW-ELP still has one MD-80 flight a day. I believe ELP is the only airport west of DFW that still sees the MD-80, ABQ lost it recently. The West Coast no longer sees the MD-80.


McAllen, TX (MFE) still sees them until Sept 3rd, and is technically west of DFW albeit far south.
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:07 pm

Sensible for AA to retire them after the summer season. I'll miss all things AA M80, like the look of the gray JT8D nacelles (which, as we all know, are fairly aggressively angled nose-down) against the shiny fuselage and vert stab with the large A^A on it. So many memories on these workhorses, as is true for many of you as well I'm sure.

At the same time, an AA AMT buddy of mine said that he cannot wait for them to go, since they're understandably mx headaches.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:46 pm

As mentioned above last flights in system for MD-80s are all on Sept. 3, 2019.

A parade of about a dozen MD-80 flights arriving DFW just after 21:00 with the last MD-80 flight scheduled to arrive at 21:18 MKE-DFW.
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:56 pm

Error above - last schedule arrival is 21:16 MSY-DFW
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:07 pm

crAAzy wrote:
As mentioned above last flights in system for MD-80s are all on Sept. 3, 2019.

A parade of about a dozen MD-80 flights arriving DFW just after 21:00 with the last MD-80 flight scheduled to arrive at 21:18 MKE-DFW.


Interesting. So no final farewell then? Just a bring them all back to DFW at once, then send them to the desert.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:23 pm

osupoke07 wrote:
crAAzy wrote:
As mentioned above last flights in system for MD-80s are all on Sept. 3, 2019.

A parade of about a dozen MD-80 flights arriving DFW just after 21:00 with the last MD-80 flight scheduled to arrive at 21:18 MKE-DFW.


Interesting. So no final farewell then? Just a bring them all back to DFW at once, then send them to the desert.


I presume there will be celebrations at the gate when the last MD-80 arrives, balloons decorating the gate and a cake offered to the passengers who were on the last flight, as well as speeches made by MD-80 captains, like in MIA for the 727 back in 2002 when the final flight arrived from TPA. What I think will happen is the last few MD-80s will rest overnight in DFW that evening and the next day, if not the next day the day after, the last MD-80 crews will fly the planes to ROW for permanent retirement. I don't think any of the remaining MD-80s will have any life left after leaving the AA fleet, the youngest one will be almost 20.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:44 pm

osupoke07 wrote:
crAAzy wrote:
As mentioned above last flights in system for MD-80s are all on Sept. 3, 2019.

A parade of about a dozen MD-80 flights arriving DFW just after 21:00 with the last MD-80 flight scheduled to arrive at 21:18 MKE-DFW.


Interesting. So no final farewell then? Just a bring them all back to DFW at once, then send them to the desert.


I wonder whether they'll do like Allegiant - Sep 5th is farewell flight day, but Sep 3rd is the last day of regular ops?
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:18 pm

I was thinking they might do a flight that stops at each hub, similar to the last US flight. Something like MIA-JFK-ORD-LAX-DFW all on one plane.
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:21 pm

osupoke07 wrote:
crAAzy wrote:
As mentioned above last flights in system for MD-80s are all on Sept. 3, 2019.

A parade of about a dozen MD-80 flights arriving DFW just after 21:00 with the last MD-80 flight scheduled to arrive at 21:18 MKE-DFW.


Interesting. So no final farewell then? Just a bring them all back to DFW at once, then send them to the desert.


I presume there will be celebrations at the gate when the last MD-80 arrives, water cannon on the airplane upon arrival, balloons decorating the gate and a cake offered to the passengers who were on the last flight, as well as speeches made by MD-80 captains, like in MIA for the 727 back in 2002 when the final flight arrived from TPA. What I think will happen is the last few MD-80s will rest overnight in DFW that evening and the next day, if not the next day the day after, the last MD-80 crews will fly the planes to ROW for permanent retirement. I don't think any of the remaining MD-80s will have any life left after leaving the AA fleet, the youngest one will be almost 20.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:59 pm

American 767 wrote:
osupoke07 wrote:
crAAzy wrote:
As mentioned above last flights in system for MD-80s are all on Sept. 3, 2019.

A parade of about a dozen MD-80 flights arriving DFW just after 21:00 with the last MD-80 flight scheduled to arrive at 21:18 MKE-DFW.


Interesting. So no final farewell then? Just a bring them all back to DFW at once, then send them to the desert.


I presume there will be celebrations at the gate when the last MD-80 arrives, balloons decorating the gate and a cake offered to the passengers who were on the last flight, as well as speeches made by MD-80 captains, like in MIA for the 727 back in 2002 when the final flight arrived from TPA. What I think will happen is the last few MD-80s will rest overnight in DFW that evening and the next day, if not the next day the day after, the last MD-80 crews will fly the planes to ROW for permanent retirement. I don't think any of the remaining MD-80s will have any life left after leaving the AA fleet, the youngest one will be almost 20.

The limit of validity of an MD-80 is 110,000 FC and 110,000 FH.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeroma ... ticle2.pdf

The only way to use up that durability in a mere 20 years is 13.7 hours or cycles everyday. Most of these are being retired with 50,000+ hours remaining and even more cycles. Most likely they are done due to fuel burn and the lack of spare parts. But only Hawaiian wears out a DC-9 family in 20 years (on cycles).

Last I looked, only JetBlue was on track to wear out an A320 in 20 years (on hours, 120,000FH limit). IIRC, LH takes 26 (also on hours), not 60,000 FC limit.

With a life of 110,00 FC and 125,000 FH, I'm not aware of a 737 used up in 20 years. Has it happened?

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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:21 pm

I don't think they'll do a hub tour, as the hubs besides DFW don't have MadDog service now. Like it or not, a S80 is a downgrade when you're used to a 321 or even a 319, so I could understand that biz travelers would be pist to get a seat right by the engines, if only for one segment. And since the S80 wasn't a plane that Doug bought, I could see a water cannon at 2330 CT and that's it.
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:16 pm

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They will be missed.

Especially with the never-ending parade of A321's and 738's that AA seems to have
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:38 pm

Does anyone know what the last route will be? Inner Texas?
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:51 pm

The AA MD-80 simulators were not upgraded to Part 60 requirements (full stall characteristics). That training is required for every pilot after March when going through recurrent training or initial qualification training. Because of that, MD-80 training stops in March. AA will run out of currently qualified MD-80 pilots around October-November.
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:46 am

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The limit of validity of an MD-80 is 110,000 FC and 110,000 FH.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeroma ... ticle2.pdf

The only way to use up that durability in a mere 20 years is 13.7 hours or cycles everyday. Most of these are being retired with 50,000+ hours remaining and even more cycles. Most likely they are done due to fuel burn and the lack of spare parts. But only Hawaiian wears out a DC-9 family in 20 years (on cycles).

Last I looked, only JetBlue was on track to wear out an A320 in 20 years (on hours, 120,000FH limit). IIRC, LH takes 26 (also on hours), not 60,000 FC limit.

With a life of 110,00 FC and 125,000 FH, I'm not aware of a 737 used up in 20 years. Has it happened?

Lightsaber


I knew something wasn't right - per that article, the MD-80 is good up to 150,000 hours.

The DC-9 shows 110,000 hours, and Delta's N923RW had 109,294 when it retired in 2010.
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:53 am

I am specifically flying to Texas with Sun Country to experience the MD-80 in a month or two. How likely is it that if I book my DFW-ELP that my MD-80 flight is randomly changed to another airplane? I don't want to risk losing out on it.
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:55 am

Newbiepilot wrote:
aaflyer222 wrote:
is there is a map of current s80 destinations?


Not sure if there is a map, but quite a few cities from Dallas.

Memphis
Columbus
Jacksonville
San Antonio
Cleveland
Tulsa
Kansas City
Louisville
Omaha
Nashville
New Orleans
Austin
St Louis
Milwaukee
Raleigh
Wichita
Charleston
Cincinnati
Indianapolis
Oklahoma City

The cities receiving service from AA on MD80s is relatively similar to how Delta uses their MD88s from ATL


my condolences to anyone flying those routes.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:12 am

crAAzy wrote:
As mentioned above last flights in system for MD-80s are all on Sept. 3, 2019.

A parade of about a dozen MD-80 flights arriving DFW just after 21:00 with the last MD-80 flight scheduled to arrive at 21:18 MKE-DFW.


I’m showing the MKE one getting in at 21:13PM there is a 9:18am Flight if that’s what you’re looking at.

With this in mind, is MKE still the last arrival at 2113?
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:45 am

ual763 wrote:
crAAzy wrote:
As mentioned above last flights in system for MD-80s are all on Sept. 3, 2019.

A parade of about a dozen MD-80 flights arriving DFW just after 21:00 with the last MD-80 flight scheduled to arrive at 21:18 MKE-DFW.


I’m showing the MKE one getting in at 21:13PM there is a 9:18am Flight if that’s what you’re looking at.

With this in mind, is MKE still the last arrival at 2113?


MSY at 2116
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:45 am

ual763 wrote:
crAAzy wrote:
As mentioned above last flights in system for MD-80s are all on Sept. 3, 2019.

A parade of about a dozen MD-80 flights arriving DFW just after 21:00 with the last MD-80 flight scheduled to arrive at 21:18 MKE-DFW.


I’m showing the MKE one getting in at 21:13PM there is a 9:18am Flight if that’s what you’re looking at.

With this in mind, is MKE still the last arrival at 2113?


Seating on this is wide open for someone looking to make the flight.
 
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Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:51 am

itchief wrote:
ual763 wrote:
crAAzy wrote:
As mentioned above last flights in system for MD-80s are all on Sept. 3, 2019.

A parade of about a dozen MD-80 flights arriving DFW just after 21:00 with the last MD-80 flight scheduled to arrive at 21:18 MKE-DFW.


I’m showing the MKE one getting in at 21:13PM there is a 9:18am Flight if that’s what you’re looking at.

With this in mind, is MKE still the last arrival at 2113?


Seating on this is wide open for someone looking to make the flight.


MSY at 2116 is the last one though, right? I don’t have access to any secret squirrel inside info, I am just using aa.com.
 
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:09 am

Yes, but they all land within 3 minutes. I may actually take MKE. With delay padding, flight distances, etc., MKE may actually land a bit later. And I’m from MKE!
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:25 am

I am thinking of MKE as well. I want as much JT8D noise as possible. Need to get one last ride on an old friend from childhood!
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:41 am

Alright, I booked STL-DFW-MKE-DFW all on the 3rd. All MD-80s. Cannot wait.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:19 am

I’m hoping all of the last MD-80 flights that arrive after 2100 all park at adjacent gates and that AAL blocks all of them off together for one giant party. Would be great fun!
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:21 am

I wouldn't book anything yet. Schedules are far from finalized. For September, they probably won't be finalized until May or June. Just food for thought.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:23 am

I, too, have booked the R/T of AA2330. It arrives a few minutes before the MSY flight, but I get more time on the Mad Dog. That's always a plus!
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:28 am

I always found them ugly. I practically grew up on Boeing 737-200s. But then in the late 90s I flew a couple of Md-80s in new interiors (at the time) at American Airlines. I loved them. I look forward to the 3/2 configuration of the A220s.
 
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Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:41 am

SunsetLimited wrote:
I wouldn't book anything yet. Schedules are far from finalized. For September, they probably won't be finalized until May or June. Just food for thought.


Well, then I’ll book the updated last flight. ;)
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:59 am

I think I've logged more miles sitting in 21B than any other seat on any other equipment type. I will definitely miss the Mad Dog. I love the smell that hits you when you board..combination of Jet A, old plane interior smell and coffee. Ah, the good old days.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:23 am

Newbiepilot wrote:
aaflyer222 wrote:
is there is a map of current s80 destinations?


Not sure if there is a map, but quite a few cities from Dallas.

Memphis
Columbus
Jacksonville
San Antonio
Cleveland
Tulsa
Kansas City
Louisville
Omaha
Nashville
New Orleans
Austin
St Louis
Milwaukee
Raleigh
Wichita
Charleston
Cincinnati
Indianapolis
Oklahoma City

The cities receiving service from AA on MD80s is relatively similar to how Delta uses their MD88s from ATL

AA247 (DFW-PIT-DFW) is an MD-80 until the start of April, then it goes to a B738.
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Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:04 pm

Veigar wrote:
I am specifically flying to Texas with Sun Country to experience the MD-80 in a month or two. How likely is it that if I book my DFW-ELP that my MD-80 flight is randomly changed to another airplane? I don't want to risk losing out on it.


I have the same question. I just booked AA22 DFW-IAH for June so that I can finally take an MD80 before they retire, and I really, really hope that it doesn't get swapped last minute!

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