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Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:47 am

As I was droning North on the Flybe DHC-8 last night, I got to thinking whether LHR-EDI is the only route where 767s and DHC-8s fly in direct competition to each other? (Same airports at both ends of the flight)

Knowing A.net someone will probably manage to think of another one :-)
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:40 am

Osaka Itami (ITM) to Fukuoka (FUK) currently has 763 (NH) vs CRJ (JL). The route is only 287 miles long.
Note NH flies anything from 763 to DH4 depending on the time of day. NH even had Ibex flying CRJ on that route but since they retired the type they had to resort to CR7s now.
 
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:41 pm

And although not strictly following what OP asks (as the competing flights are not from the same airport, but rather same city pair), YTO (Toronto) - YOW also sees DH84 and 763 competing.

Michael
 
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:52 pm

QF used to fly both DH8s and 763ERs on MEL-CBR.
 
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:16 pm

LON has (or has had) several cities served by "very BIG vs very SMALL"... AMS has been served by anything as large as a 777 (on GA) and 767s on both BA and KLM, and on the other end of the spectrum smaller equipment like Fokker 50s and ATRs, even down to the NetherLines J31s and Air UK SD-3-30s back in the day. My cousin flew out on a BA TriStar only to fly back to STN the same afternoon on an Air UK Shorts! He said that the service was far better and personalized on the small boxy prop - a tad noisy though!
Same with Paris. A300/L10/767s vs ATR/F50/DH8.
 
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:10 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
And although not strictly following what OP asks (as the competing flights are not from the same airport, but rather same city pair), YTO (Toronto) - YOW also sees DH84 and 763 competing.

Michael


They are with encore flights to YOW from YYZ which I have seen.
 
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:19 pm

That is a cool observation. Love that variety. Enjoy it while it lasts!
 
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:37 pm

Island Air flies Q400 to/from HNL and LIH. One flight each way there is an HAL 767 as well.
 
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:57 pm

azjubilee wrote:
Island Air flies Q400 to/from HNL and LIH. One flight each way there is an HAL 767 as well.


I didn't know HA was using 767's to fly Inter Island, is this a regularly scheduled flight for a season, or is it permanent? I will go out of my way to fly wide bodies inter-island. I've flown DL L-1011's, AA DC-10-10/30, UA DC-10 & a NW 757-300 HNL-OGG & a UA 777-200 OGG-KOA. The flights are awesome as they take off so light on fuel off the reef runway. It took longer to taxi out one day, then the actual flight time.

Although not today, PDX-SEA used to have 747's, L-1011's, DC-10's to PAG, B99, J31 & SWM aircraft multi daily.
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:18 pm

YHZ-YYT-YHZ has recently seen service by both the 763 and Q400. AC860 flies YHZ-YYT with the 763 and WS Encore does the same route arriving YYT shortly before AC.
Also, AC flies YYT-YHZ with 763 a/c while Porter leaves for the same route approx 20mins later.
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:26 pm

whywhyzee wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
And although not strictly following what OP asks (as the competing flights are not from the same airport, but rather same city pair), YTO (Toronto) - YOW also sees DH84 and 763 competing.

Michael


They are with encore flights to YOW from YYZ which I have seen.

Good call, totally forgot Encore. Thanks for the heads up.

Michael
 
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:09 am

RWA380 wrote:
azjubilee wrote:
Island Air flies Q400 to/from HNL and LIH. One flight each way there is an HAL 767 as well.


I didn't know HA was using 767's to fly Inter Island, is this a regularly scheduled flight for a season, or is it permanent? I will go out of my way to fly wide bodies inter-island. I've flown DL L-1011's, AA DC-10-10/30, UA DC-10 & a NW 757-300 HNL-OGG & a UA 777-200 OGG-KOA. The flights are awesome as they take off so light on fuel off the reef runway. It took longer to taxi out one day, then the actual flight time.

Although not today, PDX-SEA used to have 747's, L-1011's, DC-10's to PAG, B99, J31 & SWM aircraft multi daily.


Yes, all summer to operate the LIH to OAK/LAX flights. Now it's part of the LAX flight.
 
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:42 pm

During the summer I flew Mashhad to Tehran on a high density 747-300, a daily service on a route that sees aircraft as small as the ATR72 operating.
 
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:41 am

eamondzhang wrote:
And although not strictly following what OP asks (as the competing flights are not from the same airport, but rather same city pair), YTO (Toronto) - YOW also sees DH84 and 763 competing.

Michael

YTO-YUL as well. Q400’s up to A330’s, 787’s, and occasionally 777’s!
 
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:51 am

Speedalive wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
And although not strictly following what OP asks (as the competing flights are not from the same airport, but rather same city pair), YTO (Toronto) - YOW also sees DH84 and 763 competing.

Michael

YTO-YUL as well. Q400’s up to A330’s, 787’s, and occasionally 777’s!

I saw that, but since OP was asking for DH8 & 767 on a same route (instead of A330/777/etc ;) ) I didn't put it on.

Btw, to answer OP, up till 3 years ago QF has both D84 and 767 on MEL-CBR route (before the 767 fleet retirement).

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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:08 pm

Some 30+ years ago NW had a DC10 (>> 200 seats) operating EWR-PHL (< 90 statute miles) and AL Commuter had Nord 262s (< 30 seats) on the same route. Goliath and David-sized aircraft!!
 
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:44 pm

Many routes in the Caribbean where they are flown by a regional carrier like LIAT or Caribbean Airlines on ATR's and they compete on the same routes with British Airways 777's and Virgin Atlantic's 747's, and A330's.
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Re: Is LHR-EDI the only route with 767-DHC-8 direct competing?

Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:57 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
And although not strictly following what OP asks (as the competing flights are not from the same airport, but rather same city pair), YTO (Toronto) - YOW also sees DH84 and 763 competing.

Michael


Actually Ottawa-Toronto does strictly follow what the OP was asking. AC and WS both operate numerous equipment types on YOW-YYZ. AC has a daily 763 scheduled among the 32Xs and E90s and WS is mostly DH4 with a couple daily 737s in the mix. Occasionally YOW will see an extra 763s or a 333, 787 or 777 upgauge/sub added...usually during inclement weather to cover cancelled flights.

As an anecdote, about 15 years ago when AC still had 146s, I booked a Rapidair on a Saturday to deliberately fly on a 146. Well lo and behold the 146 went mechanical and AC subbed it for a DH3! Way back in 90s, AC would operate 1 weekly DH1 on the route on Friday nights to rotate/park Dash-8s at YYZ instead of parking it at YOW for the weekend.

YUL is similar, but it's a 333 on AC vs. WS DH4s in YUL's case.

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