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Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:46 pm

I don’t see hardly any mention of these anymore. Have all the 135s been phased out? I know DL got rid of them several years ago.
 
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:34 pm

I'm on an Expressjet 135 between BHM and IAH next month. It seems to be common on the route - I've seen it daily on Flightaware.
 
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:47 pm

I wouldn't put all that much trust in Flightaware as they quite often list a good number of E135's which are not. See this list from this morning and then check the UAL flight status and you'll see that some if not all of the listed E135 flights are actually E145's.

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KIAH

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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:56 pm

Yes on UA's part. They fly them on routes from Houston to cities like Killeen, Laredo, and College Station.
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Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:46 pm

LAXdude1023 wrote:
Yes on UA's part. They fly them on routes from Houston to cities like Killeen, Laredo, and College Station.

UaX shows three 135s in service at this time. N12528, 28529, 12530.
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:54 pm

American Eagle retired the E-135 a few years ago. The E-140 should have joined it in the desert, but some have been put back in service.
 
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Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:20 pm

BlueLine wrote:
American Eagle retired the E-135 a few years ago. The E-140 should have joined it in the desert, but some have been put back in service.

How many seats are there on the E-135 and the E-140?
 
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Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:29 pm

capejet wrote:
BlueLine wrote:
American Eagle retired the E-135 a few years ago. The E-140 should have joined it in the desert, but some have been put back in service.

How many seats are there on the E-135 and the E-140?


E135 has 37 seats

E140 has 44 seats
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Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:02 pm

Tried getting a ride on one to check it off the list but never made it unfortunately.
 
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Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:10 pm

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Tried getting a ride on one to check it off the list but never made it unfortunately.

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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:18 pm

BlueLine wrote:
American Eagle retired the E-135 a few years ago. The E-140 should have joined it in the desert, but some have been put back in service.


Are any of the E-140s in the new American livery?
 
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Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:34 pm

RJNUT wrote:
airzona11 wrote:
Tried getting a ride on one to check it off the list but never made it unfortunately.

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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:38 pm

I flew one from IAH to DSM last year and it was the nosiest airplane I've been on.
 
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:48 pm

They are whisper quiet on takeoff, but tend to make a lot of aerodynamic noise when they reach cruise speed, yes.
 
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Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:28 am

Flighty wrote:
They are whisper quiet on takeoff, but tend to make a lot of aerodynamic noise when they reach cruise speed, yes.


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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:30 am

I believe the remaining E135s for UAX will be withdrawn soon.
 
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:38 am

and yet worldwide, you find very few E-135s for sale at the moment. the average transaction price for them has increased the last 18 months.
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:44 am

Northwest1988 wrote:
BlueLine wrote:
American Eagle retired the E-135 a few years ago. The E-140 should have joined it in the desert, but some have been put back in service.


Are any of the E-140s in the new American livery?



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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:23 am

Eagle retired the E135 from service. Most are business jets now.

The E140 is being put back into service. Several are now in the new livery, which leads me to believe they're in for the long haul. They are actually still pretty young and lightly used. If they don't stay with AA, they will make decent business jets themselves.
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:50 am

I sure wish they would add the vortex generators just above the cockpit to cut down on the shock wave noise that is generated there. They’re noisy _AF_ up front and in the first 4 rows.

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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:51 am

Boeing778X wrote:
Eagle retired the E135 from service. Most are business jets now.


The 135s were sold back to Embraer as part of chapter 11 restructuring.
 
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:55 am

I believe there is an E135 on the IAD-FAY (Fayetteville, NC) route. This used to be a Dash 8, but it looks like there are 135s on the route now.
 
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Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:06 am

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I believe there is an E135 on the IAD-FAY (Fayetteville, NC) route. This used to be a Dash 8, but it looks like there are 135s on the route now.


Nope, it's a 145. UAX somehow ends up with lots of mis-filed types on flightaware.
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:22 am

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flyinggoat wrote:
I believe there is an E135 on the IAD-FAY (Fayetteville, NC) route. This used to be a Dash 8, but it looks like there are 135s on the route now.


Nope, it's a 145. UAX somehow ends up with lots of mis-filed types on flightaware.

:checkmark: That should be a UCA route formerly on the Dash. They've been replacing all of their DH8B and DH8C with E145. All of the Dashes should be gone in January. XJT (now ASQ) is the only UAX (and formerly COEX) operator to have the E135, to my knowledge. Most were stored at IGM around 2009 after approx. five years in service due to high oil prices, poor economics, and low demand from the financial downturn. Only five were pulled out of the desert around 2013; they're down to three now, and according to the UA thread, the remaining three are expected to be retired once again this winter.

Boeing778X wrote:
Eagle retired the E135 from service. Most are business jets now.

I haven't heard about any E135s being converted, but quite a few E145s have been, including quite a few from XJT. Embraer strip it down to the fuselage and completely rebuild the aircraft, so it's basically a new airplane.
 
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:48 am

DiamondFlyer wrote:

Nope, it's a 145. UAX somehow ends up with lots of mis-filed types on flightaware.


Thanks for the correction. It was Expedia and/or Kayak claiming 135 service.
 
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:04 am

I have never been on any of the ERJ-135/140/145s and I really wish we'd see some out west in the UA system. I've heard such mild-to-great reviews of them, and I'm stuck on a crappy SkyWest CRJ-200 way too often.
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:47 am

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I have never been on any of the ERJ-135/140/145s and I really wish we'd see some out west in the UA system. I've heard such mild-to-great reviews of them, and I'm stuck on a crappy SkyWest CRJ-200 way too often.


Any E-Jet >> CRJ-200. Yeah there's aerodynamic noise at cruise - that's what Bose headphones are for :) At least you can see out of the window if you're taller than 5'2" and you have a chance of the 1-seat side giving you both the window and aisle.
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:19 pm

dennypayne wrote:
intotheair wrote:
I have never been on any of the ERJ-135/140/145s and I really wish we'd see some out west in the UA system. I've heard such mild-to-great reviews of them, and I'm stuck on a crappy SkyWest CRJ-200 way too often.


Any E-Jet >> CRJ-200. Yeah there's aerodynamic noise at cruise - that's what Bose headphones are for :) At least you can see out of the window if you're taller than 5'2" and you have a chance of the 1-seat side giving you both the window and aisle.


Or you can ride in a CR2 where you can st least stand up in the aisle if your 6’0. The 145 not so much, but I wouldn’t expect any less from a turboprop converted to a jet. If the 145XR hadn’t been built, I believe the 145 would already be dead in the US.

Even still, the CR2 is going to outlive the 145
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:24 pm

DiamondFlyer wrote:
dennypayne wrote:

Any E-Jet >> CRJ-200. Yeah there's aerodynamic noise at cruise - that's what Bose headphones are for :) At least you can see out of the window if you're taller than 5'2" and you have a chance of the 1-seat side giving you both the window and aisle.


Or you can ride in a CR2 where you can st least stand up in the aisle if your 6’0. The 145 not so much, but I wouldn’t expect any less from a turboprop converted to a jet. If the 145XR hadn’t been built, I believe the 145 would already be dead in the US.


Yeah, because you spend so much time standing up on a flight :roll:

DiamondFlyer wrote:
Even still, the CR2 is going to outlive the 145


I have no issue with CRJ-700 or -900, but the -200's need to go to the desert. If the 145's accompany them, I'm not going to lose any sleep over that either.
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Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:31 pm

DiamondFlyer wrote:
dennypayne wrote:
intotheair wrote:
I have never been on any of the ERJ-135/140/145s and I really wish we'd see some out west in the UA system. I've heard such mild-to-great reviews of them, and I'm stuck on a crappy SkyWest CRJ-200 way too often.


Any E-Jet >> CRJ-200. Yeah there's aerodynamic noise at cruise - that's what Bose headphones are for :) At least you can see out of the window if you're taller than 5'2" and you have a chance of the 1-seat side giving you both the window and aisle.


Or you can ride in a CR2 where you can st least stand up in the aisle if your 6’0. The 145 not so much, but I wouldn’t expect any less from a turboprop converted to a jet. If the 145XR hadn’t been built, I believe the 145 would already be dead in the US.

Even still, the CR2 is going to outlive the 145

Envoy/Piedmont doesn’t fly the XR, and the 145 is still going strong there. Not following your logic.
 
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:22 pm

The three United Express E135s pass through CLE regularly on routes to and from BOS, EWR, IAH and more. ExpressJet has crew and maintenance bases at CLE which probably has something to do with it.
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Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:32 pm

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SgtBarone wrote:
The three United Express E135s pass through CLE regularly on routes to and from BOS, EWR, IAH and more. ExpressJet has crew and maintenance bases at CLE which probably has something to do with it.

The 135’s never regularly come through Cleveland. They are used in the smaller Houston markets and all maintenance is done in Houston.
 
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Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:48 pm

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SgtBarone wrote:
The three United Express E135s pass through CLE regularly on routes to and from BOS, EWR, IAH and more. ExpressJet has crew and maintenance bases at CLE which probably has something to do with it.

The 135’s never regularly come through Cleveland. They are used in the smaller Houston markets and all maintenance is done in Houston.


They are indeed in CLE quite often. Just today:

CLE to BOS:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL4267

CLE to IAH:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL4009
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Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:22 pm

SgtBarone wrote:
flight152 wrote:
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SgtBarone wrote:
The three United Express E135s pass through CLE regularly on routes to and from BOS, EWR, IAH and more. ExpressJet has crew and maintenance bases at CLE which probably has something to do with it.

The 135’s never regularly come through Cleveland. They are used in the smaller Houston markets and all maintenance is done in Houston.


They are indeed in CLE quite often. Just today:

CLE to BOS:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL4267

CLE to IAH:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL4009

Flightaware is often very unreliable with aircraft sub models at EV, not sure why. However 4267 was operated by N25134 an XR and 4009 was operated by N27200, also an XR. Don’t believe me? Check the United app. Again, no 135’s in cleveland, I work for EV- I would know.
 
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Re: Are any E-135s still flying for United Express or American Eagle?

Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:18 pm

Northwest1988 wrote:
I don’t see hardly any mention of these anymore. Have all the 135s been phased out? I know DL got rid of them several years ago.




ExpressJet still operates a few. If you want to do a flight aware, I know N12530 is still flying for sure. I know when I worked there we had 10-15 135's, mostly out of IAH
 
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:56 pm

United1 wrote:
capejet wrote:
BlueLine wrote:
American Eagle retired the E-135 a few years ago. The E-140 should have joined it in the desert, but some have been put back in service.

How many seats are there on the E-135 and the E-140?


E135 has 37 seats

E140 has 44 seats


Informative, thank you. What about the E145?
 
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:53 pm

On a side note a year back we flew through IAH on a E135. First flight out of DSM on a clear day really should be a no excuse for late departure but we sat inside the terminal while they "warmed up the plane." Granted it was 5 degrees out but I've not heard of such a comment. Obviously it sat outside through the night but is this specific to the E135/E145 or was this just a way for the gate agent to buy time due to crew rest from arriving late the night before?
 
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:58 pm

9252fly wrote:
United1 wrote:
capejet wrote:
How many seats are there on the E-135 and the E-140?


E135 has 37 seats

E140 has 44 seats


Informative, thank you. What about the E145?

50 seats.
 
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:52 pm

It looks like the UA ERJ-135s will be gone by the end of February at the latest. I just checked the schedules for IAH-AMA/LRD/HRL/BRO/CRP/SHV/MLU/AEX/LCH/LFT/BTR/JAN and didn't see any 135s.
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:47 pm

intotheair wrote:
I have never been on any of the ERJ-135/140/145s and I really wish we'd see some out west in the UA system. I've heard such mild-to-great reviews of them, and I'm stuck on a crappy SkyWest CRJ-200 way too often.


When United had their CLE hub i flew on a early morning ExpressJet E135 from SBN-CLE. The aircraft was also completely full.
 
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:56 pm

Someone will take up those E135s quickly. 58 E140s are being reactivated from the desert at the moment for Compass.
Worldwide, there are very few 135s for sale at the moment. Very different from 2 years ago.
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:29 pm

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Someone will take up those E135s quickly. 58 E140s are being reactivated from the desert...


I agree those E135s should be taken up quickly.

Not so sure for airline operation thought. They have an even higher CASM than the E140s, and with the current regional pilot shortages...

I see them ideal for corporate shuttles and some executive private jet charters.
 
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:59 pm

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On a side note a year back we flew through IAH on a E135. First flight out of DSM on a clear day really should be a no excuse for late departure but we sat inside the terminal while they "warmed up the plane." Granted it was 5 degrees out but I've not heard of such a comment. Obviously it sat outside through the night but is this specific to the E135/E145 or was this just a way for the gate agent to buy time due to crew rest from arriving late the night before?


A lot of stations slack on ground handling for the small RJ's. In 5 degree temps it's not unreasonable for the captain to refuse boarding until the crew has a chance to warm the airplane using its APU and the packs. If the station was on their game, they would have attached external cabin air--the big yellow tube that plugs into the fuselage from either a portable cart or equipment mounted on the jetway. Did you see the crew arrive late? If all elements are in place it's not impossible to leave on time even if the crew arrives as late as 15-20 minutes prior to scheduled departure.
 
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:34 pm

From what I hear, E-jets being made in Brazil can't boot up from a cold state at all. First you must warm the cockpit so the computers reach minimum operating temperature (40-50F?). Then you can start the plane up. There is also a less important issue of putting customers into an ice cold cabin, but the aircraft can warm it up in 2 minutes once it is running.
 
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Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:38 pm

I goofed earlier... It's Envoy that is bringing 59 ERJ140s back from the desert.
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