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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:22 pm

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QF16 LAX-BNE (26th departure from LAX - 28th arrival in BNE) returned to LAX about 1 and a half hours after departure, now expected to arrive in BNE on Friday around 1230am


Interesting, do you know why? I was spotting 15 out of BNE once and it had to return to the gate for a medical (sick flight attendant IIRC) but it wasn't airborne at the time. My completely uneducated guess is that's why.



Apparently it was a technical issue
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:24 pm

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:28 pm

EK441 ADL-DXB diverted to PER, looks like a medical

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ek441
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:21 pm

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QF16 LAX-BNE (26th departure from LAX - 28th arrival in BNE) returned to LAX about 1 and a half hours after departure, now expected to arrive in BNE on Friday around 1230am


Interesting, do you know why? I was spotting 15 out of BNE once and it had to return to the gate for a medical (sick flight attendant IIRC) but it wasn't airborne at the time. My completely uneducated guess is that's why.



Apparently it was a technical issue


Seems there was a problem with the weather radar. (something I would want functioning properly across the span of the Pacific Ocean). Aircraft VH-OJU operated about 15hrs later as QF16D. Info courtesy of theqantassource :)
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:59 am

PR axes DRW eff 24 March 18, BNE to go non stop with A321neo around the end of March 18, no fixed date yet

https://www.ausbt.com.au/philippine-air ... ource=hero
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:58 am

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PR axes DRW eff 24 March 18, BNE to go non stop with A321neo around the end of March 18, no fixed date yet

https://www.ausbt.com.au/philippine-air ... ource=hero


That's pretty cool. Does that make BNE the first Aussie airport to get scheduled Neo service? Or will Jetstar's get here before?
 
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:00 am

Nah it will be the first scheduled NEO service to Aus. The first Max service will be silkair to darwin.
 
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:15 am

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PR axes DRW eff 24 March 18, BNE to go non stop with A321neo around the end of March 18, no fixed date yet

https://www.ausbt.com.au/philippine-air ... ource=hero



Makes sense. I've always thought it was crazy to run a four hour tag you didn't have traffic rights for. Effectively for every DRW passenger you lose a seat to BNE.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:08 am

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-28dec17/
DXB-BNE EK434/435 downgauges from A380 to B77W between June-August 2018.
DXB-BNE EK430/431 upgauges from B77L to B77W from March 25th 2018.
 
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:09 pm

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https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/276444/emirates-s18-changes-as-of-28dec17/
DXB-BNE EK434/435 downgauges from A380 to B77W between June-August 2018.
DXB-BNE EK430/431 upgauges from B77L to B77W from March 25th 2018.


Also DXB-PER (EK424/425) will go back to 77L for 3 months as well
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:59 pm

JacksonAviation wrote:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/276444/emirates-s18-changes-as-of-28dec17/
DXB-BNE EK434/435 downgauges from A380 to B77W between June-August 2018.
DXB-BNE EK430/431 upgauges from B77L to B77W from March 25th 2018.


We do occasionally see the 77W on the new 430/431, but it’s primarily the 77L. Do we know why the downgauage is happening? Slow forward bookings or maybe planned maintenance?
 
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:49 pm

QF7 29/12 nightstopped due to mechanical reasons & been rescheduled 0700 departure 30/12.

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Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:28 pm

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PR axes DRW eff 24 March 18, BNE to go non stop with A321neo around the end of March 18, no fixed date yet

https://www.ausbt.com.au/philippine-air ... ource=hero


Did CNS get cut too, when AKL went non-stop rather than via CNS?
 
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:06 pm

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PR axes DRW eff 24 March 18, BNE to go non stop with A321neo around the end of March 18, no fixed date yet

https://www.ausbt.com.au/philippine-air ... ource=hero


Did CNS get cut too, when AKL went non-stop rather than via CNS?



Yes CNS got cut when AKL went non stop.
 
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:10 pm

Bluebird191 wrote:
JacksonAviation wrote:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/276444/emirates-s18-changes-as-of-28dec17/
DXB-BNE EK434/435 downgauges from A380 to B77W between June-August 2018.
DXB-BNE EK430/431 upgauges from B77L to B77W from March 25th 2018.


We do occasionally see the 77W on the new 430/431, but it’s primarily the 77L. Do we know why the downgauage is happening? Slow forward bookings or maybe planned maintenance?


If I had to guess they need the capacity elsewhere during the peak Northern Hemisphere summer. There is no way that “slow bookings” are a concern in July!
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:42 pm

RyanairGuru wrote:
Bluebird191 wrote:
JacksonAviation wrote:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/276444/emirates-s18-changes-as-of-28dec17/
DXB-BNE EK434/435 downgauges from A380 to B77W between June-August 2018.
DXB-BNE EK430/431 upgauges from B77L to B77W from March 25th 2018.


We do occasionally see the 77W on the new 430/431, but it’s primarily the 77L. Do we know why the downgauage is happening? Slow forward bookings or maybe planned maintenance?


If I had to guess they need the capacity elsewhere during the peak Northern Hemisphere summer. There is no way that “slow bookings” are a concern in July!


Has to ask with the AKL tag being dropped - airlines have been known to do strange things.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:06 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
Bluebird191 wrote:
JacksonAviation wrote:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/276444/emirates-s18-changes-as-of-28dec17/
DXB-BNE EK434/435 downgauges from A380 to B77W between June-August 2018.
DXB-BNE EK430/431 upgauges from B77L to B77W from March 25th 2018.


We do occasionally see the 77W on the new 430/431, but it’s primarily the 77L. Do we know why the downgauage is happening? Slow forward bookings or maybe planned maintenance?


If I had to guess they need the capacity elsewhere during the peak Northern Hemisphere summer. There is no way that “slow bookings” are a concern in July!


Think some of it will be due on the drop on onward traffic from AKL? now that AKL has an direct service to DXB and DOH and EK removing the AKL Tasman tags it will be removing an part of the market that would of traveled via BNE even with the QF connections to AKL.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:50 am

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We do occasionally see the 77W on the new 430/431, but it’s primarily the 77L. Do we know why the downgauage is happening? Slow forward bookings or maybe planned maintenance?


If I had to guess they need the capacity elsewhere during the peak Northern Hemisphere summer. There is no way that “slow bookings” are a concern in July!


Think some of it will be due on the drop on onward traffic from AKL? now that AKL has an direct service to DXB and DOH and EK removing the AKL Tasman tags it will be removing an part of the market that would of traveled via BNE even with the QF connections to AKL.


And considering an A380 will be sitting idle in BNE for 14-15 hours once the tag is dropped soon, surely it’s also not the best use of the whale for EK? I’m a supporter of EK retiming EK435 to a morning departure back to DXB, say roughly 9am, but we’ve not seen anything for this yet - it saves the lengthy downtime, and allows the new EK431 to capture more potential pax and maybe ultimately be upgauged from the current 77L/77W mix to a consistent 77W and ultimately an A380, if demand keeps increasing for EK.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:23 am

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PR axes DRW eff 24 March 18, BNE to go non stop with A321neo around the end of March 18, no fixed date yet

https://www.ausbt.com.au/philippine-air ... ource=hero


Jetstar to recommence Darwin - Manila? It cancelled the flights in 2014 in response to PR.
 
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Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:00 am

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RyanairGuru wrote:

If I had to guess they need the capacity elsewhere during the peak Northern Hemisphere summer. There is no way that “slow bookings” are a concern in July!


Think some of it will be due on the drop on onward traffic from AKL? now that AKL has an direct service to DXB and DOH and EK removing the AKL Tasman tags it will be removing an part of the market that would of traveled via BNE even with the QF connections to AKL.


And considering an A380 will be sitting idle in BNE for 14-15 hours once the tag is dropped soon, surely it’s also not the best use of the whale for EK? I’m a supporter of EK retiming EK435 to a morning departure back to DXB, say roughly 9am, but we’ve not seen anything for this yet - it saves the lengthy downtime, and allows the new EK431 to capture more potential pax and maybe ultimately be upgauged from the current 77L/77W mix to a consistent 77W and ultimately an A380, if demand keeps increasing for EK.


A 9am departure ex BNE would not be practical as it would miss the afternoon bank in DXB. If EK were to retime the flight I would imagine it would be something similar to the flights to PER, SYD and MEL, that is a late evening/midnight arrival and an early morning departure 530-6am
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:40 pm

Will qantas get the A350?
 
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Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:41 pm

Also btw my name is Alexei, I come from Melbourne.
 
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Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:58 pm

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Will qantas get the A350?

Nobody knows! QF is seeking proposals from both Airbus & Boeing, AFAIK neither has been finalised let alone a decision made.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2017

Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:03 am

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Think some of it will be due on the drop on onward traffic from AKL? now that AKL has an direct service to DXB and DOH and EK removing the AKL Tasman tags it will be removing an part of the market that would of traveled via BNE even with the QF connections to AKL.


And considering an A380 will be sitting idle in BNE for 14-15 hours once the tag is dropped soon, surely it’s also not the best use of the whale for EK? I’m a supporter of EK retiming EK435 to a morning departure back to DXB, say roughly 9am, but we’ve not seen anything for this yet - it saves the lengthy downtime, and allows the new EK431 to capture more potential pax and maybe ultimately be upgauged from the current 77L/77W mix to a consistent 77W and ultimately an A380, if demand keeps increasing for EK.


A 9am departure ex BNE would not be practical as it would miss the afternoon bank in DXB. If EK were to retime the flight I would imagine it would be something similar to the flights to PER, SYD and MEL, that is a late evening/midnight arrival and an early morning departure 530-6am


Those banks are already served by EK432/433, but the stop in SIN and the resulting longer journey time means that it is an 00:35 arrival and 02:35 departure.

If they were to retime I’d expect it to be like the new SYD schedule, with a 16:00 departure to mirror QF1. As it is, I think leaving the plane on the ground all day and then having two evening departures is likely how it will stay for the time been as those flight are always the most popular and thus most expensive. The yields probably justify the cost of parking the plane.

With regards to lower demand on the back on the AKL termination, if we were talking about cuts in May and October I would agree. But June-August, and especially the July school holidays, is peak time for Australian outbound tourism to Europe. For them to cut back at that time of year makes me think that it has more to do with increasing capacity in other markets during the Northern Summer than anything specific to Brisbane. If the 77W becomes permanent on EK434/435 then I will gladly take it back.
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:51 am

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Will qantas get the A350?

Nobody knows! QF is seeking proposals from both Airbus & Boeing, AFAIK neither has been finalised let alone a decision made.

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Althogh no decisions have been made, the 777x is the plane to beat. QF has been leaning towards it given its better economics. However anything could happen.
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:10 am

Based on the information available, the 778 likely best meets the Project Sunrise requirements, but at the end of the day we will wait and see.

It may see a 777-8 and a 777-9 as a good mix to open up longer haul routes, with some of the larger variant to replace A380’s in the next decade or so.

In saying that though, I do like the idea of the A350-900ULR and A350-1000 mix.

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And considering an A380 will be sitting idle in BNE for 14-15 hours once the tag is dropped soon, surely it’s also not the best use of the whale for EK? I’m a supporter of EK retiming EK435 to a morning departure back to DXB, say roughly 9am, but we’ve not seen anything for this yet - it saves the lengthy downtime, and allows the new EK431 to capture more potential pax and maybe ultimately be upgauged from the current 77L/77W mix to a consistent 77W and ultimately an A380, if demand keeps increasing for EK.


A 9am departure ex BNE would not be practical as it would miss the afternoon bank in DXB. If EK were to retime the flight I would imagine it would be something similar to the flights to PER, SYD and MEL, that is a late evening/midnight arrival and an early morning departure 530-6am


Those banks are already served by EK432/433, but the stop in SIN and the resulting longer journey time means that it is an 00:35 arrival and 02:35 departure.

If they were to retime I’d expect it to be like the new SYD schedule, with a 16:00 departure to mirror QF1. As it is, I think leaving the plane on the ground all day and then having two evening departures is likely how it will stay for the time been as those flight are always the most popular and thus most expensive. The yields probably justify the cost of parking the plane.

With regards to lower demand on the back on the AKL termination, if we were talking about cuts in May and October I would agree. But June-August, and especially the July school holidays, is peak time for Australian outbound tourism to Europe. For them to cut back at that time of year makes me think that it has more to do with increasing capacity in other markets during the Northern Summer than anything specific to Brisbane. If the 77W becomes permanent on EK434/435 then I will gladly take it back.


From what I can tell, EK currently has more than enough A380 and 77W aircraft available, but the 77L is the one that is in limited supply at that airline.

The reality is that with an additional daily flight these days, this is not exactly a surprise that an airline will try and maximise yields where it can. It’s about finding the right balance.
 
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:12 am

Sydney Seaplanes aircraft with 6 people on it down north of Sydney.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sea-plane-cra ... 0bs9b.html
 
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:28 am

VH-OEF is operating the New Years Eve Antarctica Charter

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Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:07 am

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Sydney Seaplanes aircraft with 6 people on it down north of Sydney.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sea-plane-cra ... 0bs9b.html


Just read this on the BBC shocked and saddened by the news. I've always looked up at these planes when I've been Sydney and fancied a go and we got the opportunity to fly in one up to one of the bays and then a circuit around Sydney. A great experience and taking off from Rose Bay with all its seaplane history was special too.
A very sad day for all concerned. My thoughts are with them.
 
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Australian Aviation thread January 2018 is now open, please continue to add your comments there

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