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[...]IAG CEO Willie Walsh said Joon was a “hybrid” rather than “a very low-cost operation,” adding: “I’m not sure what Air France is doing there.”
Kilopond wrote:From anothoer article:[...]IAG CEO Willie Walsh said Joon was a “hybrid” rather than “a very low-cost operation,” adding: “I’m not sure what Air France is doing there.”
Designing a New Airline for Hipsters (And Air France Investors)
Kilopond wrote:From anothoer article:[...]IAG CEO Willie Walsh said Joon was a “hybrid” rather than “a very low-cost operation,” adding: “I’m not sure what Air France is doing there.”
KarelXWB wrote:Kilopond wrote:From anothoer article:[...]IAG CEO Willie Walsh said Joon was a “hybrid” rather than “a very low-cost operation,” adding: “I’m not sure what Air France is doing there.”
Willie Walsh should choose his words carefully. His Level venture doesn't even has its own AOC.
luchtzak wrote:Joon offers free drinks, unless other LCC.
LY777 wrote:luchtzak wrote:Joon offers free drinks, unless other LCC.
So, in Y, no difference in service compared to AF?!
luchtzak wrote:Millennials flying to Tehran ?
luchtzak wrote:Millennials flying to Tehran ?
persiangulf93 wrote:luchtzak wrote:Millennials flying to Tehran ?
Iran has become a hotspot for backpackers and people that like to visit historical sites of ancient Persia.
luchtzak wrote:Millennials flying to Tehran ?
luchtzak wrote:About the uniforms, website Upinthesky.nl says: "The airline targets youngsters, looking at the flight attendants uniforms. It's not a traditional uniform, but they look like hipsters in coffee bar!"
Do they have to work at Joon until 60 ? or is that age-restricted
http://www.upinthesky.nl/2017/11/30/air ... we-routes/
runway23 wrote:Kilopond wrote:From anothoer article:[...]IAG CEO Willie Walsh said Joon was a “hybrid” rather than “a very low-cost operation,” adding: “I’m not sure what Air France is doing there.”
Designing a New Airline for Hipsters (And Air France Investors)
Basically they are doing what they can. The unions aren’t make AFKLs job easy.
Joon is basically the same as BA’s mixed fleet just that AF is forced to have a different branding.
CaliguyNYC wrote:luchtzak wrote:Millennials flying to Tehran ?
My thoughts exactly - this targeting young people is a load of crap. It is clear they are putting Joon on flights that are low yielding or non business - looks like CAI and THR fit into on of those categories.
IrishAyes wrote:luchtzak wrote:Millennials flying to Tehran ?
dontcha know? those beautiful mountains in the backdrop make it one of the most Instagram-worthy cities on earth!!! #WokeAF #satire
IrishAyes wrote:luchtzak wrote:Millennials flying to Tehran ?
dontcha know? those beautiful mountains in the backdrop make it one of the most Instagram-worthy cities on earth!!! #WokeAF #satire
luchtzak wrote:persiangulf93 wrote:luchtzak wrote:Millennials flying to Tehran ?
Iran has become a hotspot for backpackers and people that like to visit historical sites of ancient Persia.
So the female flight attendants are allowed to enter Iran in that outfit ?
jnev3289 wrote:Lots of Joon bashing going on, but for me, at least they have an identity. Level(Iberia) is just a LHLC with no identity. Joon at least gets credit for trying something in my book. Also, I do like their uniforms, there is no need for stiff diplomacy in uniforms, especially on what amounts to an LCC. Simplicity, comfort, and free range of motion should reign supreme.
PHBVF wrote:jnev3289 wrote:Lots of Joon bashing going on, but for me, at least they have an identity. Level(Iberia) is just a LHLC with no identity. Joon at least gets credit for trying something in my book. Also, I do like their uniforms, there is no need for stiff diplomacy in uniforms, especially on what amounts to an LCC. Simplicity, comfort, and free range of motion should reign supreme.
Passengers can be obnoxious and respectless as is. Without a uniform that exerts authority I would be anxious that this could get worse...
jnev3289 wrote:They're all factors. But an unprofessional looking "millennial" has a significant disadvantage in calming down a passenger than a professional looking person of the same age. Or indeed even more than an older cabin attendant.PHBVF wrote:jnev3289 wrote:Lots of Joon bashing going on, but for me, at least they have an identity. Level(Iberia) is just a LHLC with no identity. Joon at least gets credit for trying something in my book. Also, I do like their uniforms, there is no need for stiff diplomacy in uniforms, especially on what amounts to an LCC. Simplicity, comfort, and free range of motion should reign supreme.
Passengers can be obnoxious and respectless as is. Without a uniform that exerts authority I would be anxious that this could get worse...
I don't believe that has a real effect to be honest. I would bet Emirates has nearly the same pax rage incident rate as Frontier or Allegiant. I would think age would have more of an impact than uniform style
PHBVF wrote:jnev3289 wrote:They're all factors. But an unprofessional looking "millennial" has a significant disadvantage in calming down a passenger than a professional looking person of the same age. Or indeed even more than an older cabin attendant.PHBVF wrote:
Passengers can be obnoxious and respectless as is. Without a uniform that exerts authority I would be anxious that this could get worse...
I don't believe that has a real effect to be honest. I would bet Emirates has nearly the same pax rage incident rate as Frontier or Allegiant. I would think age would have more of an impact than uniform style
jnev3289 wrote:PHBVF wrote:jnev3289 wrote:They're all factors. But an unprofessional looking "millennial" has a significant disadvantage in calming down a passenger than a professional looking person of the same age. Or indeed even more than an older cabin attendant.I don't believe that has a real effect to be honest. I would bet Emirates has nearly the same pax rage incident rate as Frontier or Allegiant. I would think age would have more of an impact than uniform style
Do you really find those uniforms particularly "unprofessional"? They'll also have wings on them I'm sure and maybe their crew badges.
luchtzak wrote:Millennials flying to Tehran ?
aviationjunky wrote:Young people who travel don't care about the luxury of flight because odds are they are spending all their money in the city they're going to, not on the flight there.
LY777 wrote:luchtzak wrote:Joon offers free drinks, unless other LCC.
So, in Y, no difference in service compared to AF?!
CaliguyNYC wrote:luchtzak wrote:Millennials flying to Tehran ?
My thoughts exactly - this targeting young people is a load of crap. It is clear they are putting Joon on flights that are low yielding or non business - looks like CAI and THR fit into on of those categories.
luchtzak wrote:persiangulf93 wrote:luchtzak wrote:Millennials flying to Tehran ?
Iran has become a hotspot for backpackers and people that like to visit historical sites of ancient Persia.
So the female flight attendants are allowed to enter Iran in that outfit ?
peterinlisbon wrote:So does Joon do connections? Can I connect on a Joon flight from Istanbul to Marrakech via Paris?
AwysBSB wrote:JN at GIG would be beautiful, but first they need to have 77W in their fleet.