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ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:44 am

Not exactly breaking news but :

Incheon airport T2 set to open the 18th of Jan 2018.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/Recommended/business/99

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20171129000910

Interesting to note that KE will finally have priority queues for immigration and security, on top of having an "exclusive" first class lounge (instead of a replica of a business class lounge).

KE will also have enough A380 gates to not have to use the satellite terminal for SYD flights during the christmas season
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:57 am

Is there a plan for other Skyteam airlines to move to T2? What about Jin Air?
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:00 pm

konkret wrote:
Is there a plan for other Skyteam airlines to move to T2? What about Jin Air?


Initially KE, DL, AF, KL are planned to move to T2. Surprisingly GA and VN will still be using the current concourse 1. Weren't they the SkyTeam member also? LOL :o
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:24 pm

How many gates?
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:31 pm

I am a bit surprised CSA doesn’t move along with Korean Air.
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:21 pm

I still think it was short-sighted of them to build Terminal 2 so far south. It should have been built farther to the north closer to the water allowing for additional concourses at a later point, now they can only build 1 additional concourse midfield. I'm sure the can build additional expansions along the sides but just seems wasteful.
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:46 pm

bluefltspecial wrote:
I still think it was short-sighted of them to build Terminal 2 so far south. It should have been built farther to the north closer to the water allowing for additional concourses at a later point, now they can only build 1 additional concourse midfield. I'm sure the can build additional expansions along the sides but just seems wasteful.


I was looking at that too, but it still looks to me as if they might be able to fit 2 more concourses in, if they build a new concourse where the midfield control tower is currently, and squeeze the distance a bit between the concourses, that might allow room for 2 concourses to be built, but I agree, they definitely should have built T2 further North, then it would be a non-issue and they could have added maybe 3 or 4 new concourses between the Two.
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:15 pm

Am I crazy for thinking Terminal 2 doesn't look big enough for all of Korean Air's operations?

Don't get me wrong, this is a huge improvement and I'm thrilled whenever see airports expanding (especially since we in North America seem to have lost the art and have adopted Europe's lipstick-on-a-pig approach) but this doesn't look like a ton of gates. No wonder all the Skyteam members aren't moving over.
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:00 pm

The transportation center is very impressive..... :wideeyed: .....

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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:26 pm

Really looking forward to transiting through this new terminal. After DL dropped NRT-BKK, my transition point US-BKK has been ICN. This should improve that experience a lot. :)
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:30 pm

jsnww81 wrote:
Am I crazy for thinking Terminal 2 doesn't look big enough for all of Korean Air's operations?

Don't get me wrong, this is a huge improvement and I'm thrilled whenever see airports expanding (especially since we in North America seem to have lost the art and have adopted Europe's lipstick-on-a-pig approach) but this doesn't look like a ton of gates. No wonder all the Skyteam members aren't moving over.



I just passed through ICN. I read that eventually there will be a third terminal built.
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:29 am

Eventually another midfield concourse will be built between the new terminal 2 and existing satellite terminal.
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:52 am

jsnww81 wrote:
Am I crazy for thinking Terminal 2 doesn't look big enough for all of Korean Air's operations?

Don't get me wrong, this is a huge improvement and I'm thrilled whenever see airports expanding (especially since we in North America seem to have lost the art and have adopted Europe's lipstick-on-a-pig approach) but this doesn't look like a ton of gates. No wonder all the Skyteam members aren't moving over.


KE kind of gets ~10 more gates with the move. With AF and KL only flying 1x daily and DL only 3x it should be enough. Room was also left on both sides if the terminal to expand and create another 10 gates down the road if need be.
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:38 am

Will these mean that more flights will move from GMP to ICN? Or is the long term plan to keep GMP open as a short haul type airport?
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:12 am

Block40Osan wrote:
Initially KE, DL, AF, KL are planned to move to T2. Surprisingly GA and VN will still be using the current concourse 1. Weren't they the SkyTeam member also? LOL :o

How about AM?
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:27 am

qantas747 wrote:
Will these mean that more flights will move from GMP to ICN? Or is the long term plan to keep GMP open as a short haul type airport?


I’ve not seen any official plan but I suspect not. Gimpo is far more convenient that Incheon for those living in Seoul, and thus it will continue to be the capital’s domestic air hub. I also suspect the number of international flights won’t decrease either.
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:06 pm

c152sy wrote:
qantas747 wrote:
Will these mean that more flights will move from GMP to ICN? Or is the long term plan to keep GMP open as a short haul type airport?


I’ve not seen any official plan but I suspect not. Gimpo is far more convenient that Incheon for those living in Seoul, and thus it will continue to be the capital’s domestic air hub. I also suspect the number of international flights won’t decrease either.


Gimpo is going through a huge renovation of all 3 terminals suggesting domestic flights aren't going anywhere. Furthermore international flights have been capped at Tokyo/Osaka/Beijing/Shanghai/Taipei and are much more convenient than their ICN counterparts
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:30 pm

How about AREX / KTX connections from T2 ?
Hopefully available from opening date to Seoul Station and KTX network.
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:07 pm

Looking post-modern (see: more and more Chinese airports) does not a pleasant experience make.

ICN is a vastly overrated hub. The security area is tight, smoke from the smoking "lounges" regularly seeps out, seating is scarce, and post-security food options are a let-down-- while on my way to ICN, I've stopped at GMP just to eat.
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:01 pm

DKTraveller wrote:
How about AREX / KTX connections from T2 ?
Hopefully available from opening date to Seoul Station and KTX network.


Terminus moved from T1 transport center to T2 transport center. Buses will also be based in T2 transport center before making a stop at arrivals in T1.
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:08 pm

BuildingMyBento wrote:
Looking post-modern (see: more and more Chinese airports) does not a pleasant experience make.

ICN is a vastly overrated hub. The security area is tight, smoke from the smoking "lounges" regularly seeps out, seating is scarce, and post-security food options are a let-down-- while on my way to ICN, I've stopped at GMP just to eat.


Do you go to GMP to build your bento? :P
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:57 pm

So I assume the main building will be for Asiana Airlines, The Satellite Terminal will be for oneworld/unaffiliated airlines, and Terminal 2 will be for Korean Air and eventually every other SkyTeam airline? Nice terminal it seems like.

Was ICN congested terminal wise before the Terminal 2 opening? Were there enough gates for KE even with OZ using the main terminal as well?
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:41 pm

NichCage wrote:
So I assume the main building will be for Asiana Airlines, The Satellite Terminal will be for oneworld/unaffiliated airlines, and Terminal 2 will be for Korean Air and eventually every other SkyTeam airline? Nice terminal it seems like.

Was ICN congested terminal wise before the Terminal 2 opening? Were there enough gates for KE even with OZ using the main terminal as well?


Yeah, it is pretty crowded these days. Security feels like it has been getting slower and you do occasionally now see Korean Air in the satellite. Asiana won't even get close to filling T1 by itself, so my guess is you'll see a lot of premium foreign airlines moving into T1 and the LCCs staying in the concourse. Cathay are about to revamp their ICN lounge, so I'd imagine that will be in T1 and they'd be one of the airlines moving...
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:03 am

Wow! Congrats to ICN and KE! Would love to visit soon!
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:25 am

What a relief for ICN to finally open terminal 2. I was at ICN 6 days before the opening and I could see that T1 was extremely saturated. Took me around an hour to pass security and outbound immigration.
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:34 am

Looks awesome! I'm flying in from PEK to ICN next month, hope it is on T2!
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:46 am

Star Alliance carriers moved to T1 with Asiana.
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:49 am

gatibosgru wrote:
Looks awesome! I'm flying in from PEK to ICN next month, hope it is on T2!


What airline will you be using?
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:56 am

BuildingMyBento wrote:
Looking post-modern (see: more and more Chinese airports) does not a pleasant experience make.

ICN is a vastly overrated hub. The security area is tight, smoke from the smoking "lounges" regularly seeps out, seating is scarce, and post-security food options are a let-down-- while on my way to ICN, I've stopped at GMP just to eat.


Fly CX or TG to ICN from HKG. 90% of the time CX uses the satellite terminal. So delighted to see they had a Taco Bell there! I find ICN pretty nice to use, but to each his own. One that can use some modernization, is NRT the JAL/AA/CX terminal, or CX on the China Airlines/CX side.
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:33 am

I flew through new ICN Terminal 2 last week.
It is BEAUTIFUL. Absolutely gorgeous. And I don't know what BulidingMyBento's problem is- I've enjoyed every single one of my transits through Incheon.
But I DO agree that food options are unacceptably few and small. It's going to be a big problem.
There were basically three tiny bars (per half of the terminal U-shape) to get food at, they were each overcrowded, and only offer a few items. Fish and Chips, serving fish and chips and basically nothing else, a noodle bar, and the "grill," which served pasta and a couple of other items.
The food I had was indeed good, but the terminal was hardly crowded at all.
They certainly didn't skimp on the name-brand shopping options. I guess those must be more profitable per square meter than restaurants????
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:49 am

Now, they’ll need a terminal for Asiana and Star Alliance members :D
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:44 am

flydude380 wrote:
Now, they’ll need a terminal for Asiana and Star Alliance members :D


They took over Terminal 1
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:06 pm

Yahnih wrote:
flydude380 wrote:
Now, they’ll need a terminal for Asiana and Star Alliance members :D


They took over Terminal 1


But where will the missilaneous (spelling?) carriers go? :D
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:54 pm

jubguy3 wrote:
gatibosgru wrote:
Looks awesome! I'm flying in from PEK to ICN next month, hope it is on T2!


What airline will you be using?



KE
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:29 pm

gatibosgru wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
gatibosgru wrote:
Looks awesome! I'm flying in from PEK to ICN next month, hope it is on T2!


What airline will you be using?



KE


Great! KE moved to terminal 2 along with SkyTeam partners Delta, Air France, and KLM. Other partners will move later.
 
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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:43 pm

bluefltspecial wrote:
I still think it was short-sighted of them to build Terminal 2 so far south. It should have been built farther to the north closer to the water allowing for additional concourses at a later point, now they can only build 1 additional concourse midfield. I'm sure the can build additional expansions along the sides but just seems wasteful.


The new terminal isn't fully built. So that 'wasted space' in the far North is reserved to be used for when they deploy the expansion plan 'stage 4', at which the T2 is finally fully built, due in 2023.
Below are the bird's eye view of ICN expansion plans; the current stage 3 and 2023 stage 4 respectively. Note 'the other part' of T2 in the lower picture stretching all the way up north.

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Re: ICN terminal 2 to open 18th of January 2018

Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:44 pm

bluefltspecial wrote:
I still think it was short-sighted of them to build Terminal 2 so far south. It should have been built farther to the north closer to the water allowing for additional concourses at a later point, now they can only build 1 additional concourse midfield. I'm sure the can build additional expansions along the sides but just seems wasteful.


The new terminal isn't fully built. So that 'wasted space' in the far North is reserved to be used for when they deploy the expansion plan 'stage 4', at which the T2 is finally fully built, due in 2023.
Below are the bird's eye view of ICN expansion plans; the current stage 3 and 2023 stage 4 respectively. Note 'the other part' of T2 in the lower picture stretching all the way up north.

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