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Re: French routes news thread

Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:58 pm

Level could cancel ORY-LAS and ORY-BOS routes.

The former was launched last Autumn and the latter should have started in March.

https://www.air-journal.fr/2020-01-24-l ... 17781.html
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:23 pm

zkojq wrote:
Yet another long haul connection to Nice: Gulf Air to open NCE-BAH with A321neo!


https://www.nice.aeroport.fr/Passagers/ ... c-Gulf-Air


Great development for NCE. Oman Air was also rumored a couple of years ago but no news since.
Is Kuwait Airways coming back this year? No flights are available yet and nothing is mentioned anywhere.
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:42 pm

Starting 6/22/2020 until end of August :

U21625 NCE 06:30 - MAH 07:50 Mo, Fr A320
U21626 MAH 08:25 - NCE 09:45 Mo, Fr A320
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Re: French routes news thread

Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:27 am

During April and May Air Serbia will be boosting BEG-CDG from 14 to 16 weekly flights, these will operate in addition to AF's daily flights.
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:49 pm

It looks as if TopOfTravel are chartering Enter Air to fly from Meaulte / Albert Picardie airport near Amiens to Palermo to take people on holiday on 08-May and possibly also 15-May

I had no idea that Meaulte was able to handle a 737 with 150+ pax - had assumed it was strictly Airbus manufacture, general aviation and cargo

Anyone know more about this ? Is this a first in a long time for Meaulte ?
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:31 pm

davidjohnson6 wrote:
It looks as if TopOfTravel are chartering Enter Air to fly from Meaulte / Albert Picardie airport near Amiens to Palermo to take people on holiday on 08-May and possibly also 15-May

I had no idea that Meaulte was able to handle a 737 with 150+ pax - had assumed it was strictly Airbus manufacture, general aviation and cargo

Anyone know more about this ? Is this a first in a long time for Meaulte ?

They did some charters from Meaulte too last year.
Destination was Sardinia
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:28 am

AF returns to Chennai starting June 14, 2020, thrice weekly with a 279-seat ‪787-9 (30 Business, 21 Premium Economy & 228 Economy class).‬

CDG 10:10 - MAA 23:30 2-4-7
MAA 01:05 - CDG 08:00 1-3-5

Chennai is AF’s 4th destination in India after Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore.
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Re: French routes news thread

Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:47 am

ro1960 wrote:
AF returns to Chennai starting June 14, 2020, thrice weekly with a 279-seat ‪787-9 (30 Business, 21 Premium Economy & 228 Economy class).‬

CDG 10:10 - MAA 23:30 2-4-7
MAA 01:05 - CDG 08:00 1-3-5

Chennai is AF’s 4th destination in India after Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore.


Looks like they are going to be offering relatively good connections from the US and Canada which is good.
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:11 am

Vancouver - Pape’ete & v.v. route has been confirmed. It is not confirmed if Air Tahiti Nui or Air France will operate the flight. If Air France operates the flight, it is undecided if CDG or PPT based F/A’s will crew this flight. TN will codeshare on AF flights in the event AF operates YVR - PPT services. And lastly, there is a rumor floating around that AF may drop LAX - PPT flying in favor of code sharing on TN PPT - LAX services if AF is awarded to operate the YVR - PPT flight. I will update this information once I receive more confirmations.
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Re: French routes news thread

Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:53 am

AirAfreak wrote:
Vancouver - Pape’ete & v.v. route has been confirmed. It is not confirmed if Air Tahiti Nui or Air France will operate the flight. If Air France operates the flight, it is undecided if CDG or PPT based F/A’s will crew this flight. TN will codeshare on AF flights in the event AF operates YVR - PPT services. And lastly, there is a rumor floating around that AF may drop LAX - PPT flying in favor of code sharing on TN PPT - LAX services if AF is awarded to operate the YVR - PPT flight. I will update this information once I receive more confirmations.



Does AF have crew based at PPT? I was under the impression that it was just a layover.
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Re: French routes news thread

Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:52 am

ro1960 wrote:
AirAfreak wrote:
Vancouver - Pape’ete & v.v. route has been confirmed. It is not confirmed if Air Tahiti Nui or Air France will operate the flight. If Air France operates the flight, it is undecided if CDG or PPT based F/A’s will crew this flight. TN will codeshare on AF flights in the event AF operates YVR - PPT services. And lastly, there is a rumor floating around that AF may drop LAX - PPT flying in favor of code sharing on TN PPT - LAX services if AF is awarded to operate the YVR - PPT flight. I will update this information once I receive more confirmations.



Does AF have crew based at PPT? I was under the impression that it was just a layover.



Yes. CDG based cabin crew are not rostered on the LAX-PPT-LAX flight. Only the local AF PPT-based cabin crew living in French Polynesia are rostered on the PPT-LAX-PPT flight. Additionally, CDG-based pilots are rostered on the LAX-PPT-LAX flights.
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Re: French routes news thread

Sun May 17, 2020 7:56 am

PPT-ORY the longest domestic flight (16129 kms) operated this May by a French Bee A359.

https://www.air-journal.fr/2020-05-16-french-bee-record-du-plus-long-vol-domestique-5220205.html
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Sun May 17, 2020 1:04 pm

What will happen with airlines based at ORY such as B0, LV, and BF?
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Mon May 18, 2020 11:38 am

MrBren wrote:
PPT-ORY the longest domestic flight (16129 kms) operated this May by a French Bee A359.

https://www.air-journal.fr/2020-05-16-french-bee-record-du-plus-long-vol-domestique-5220205.html
But without passengers. At this time, only air Tahiti Nui has the rights to fly with passengers between Tahiti and France.
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Mon May 18, 2020 3:00 pm

Apologies if it's already been discussed but Ryanair seems to have stopped selling the following routes at Paris-Beauvais:
Beziers, Figari, Nador, Oujda, Poznan, Prague, Tangier, Warsaw-Modlin, Zaragoza
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Wed May 20, 2020 6:20 pm

Groupe Dubreuil negotiated with Airbus a postponement of one year for its four A350-1000 deliveries — two for Air Caraibes and two for French bee. They seek to be delivered in 2021-2022 period instead.
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Re: French routes news thread

Wed May 20, 2020 7:54 pm

nicode wrote:
MrBren wrote:
PPT-ORY the longest domestic flight (16129 kms) operated this May by a French Bee A359.

https://www.air-journal.fr/2020-05-16-french-bee-record-du-plus-long-vol-domestique-5220205.html
But without passengers. At this time, only air Tahiti Nui has the rights to fly with passengers between Tahiti and France.


What about AF?
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Sat May 23, 2020 2:07 pm

spinotter wrote:
What about AF?

Not before June 30th.
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:01 pm

Luxair will launch LUX - BOD and MRS routes from late june to late september :

LG 8171 LUX 645 - 840 BOD -----6- DH4
LG 8173 LUX 1200 - 1355 BOD --3---- DH4
LG 8172 BOD 920 - 1110 LUX -----6- DH4
LG 8174 BOD 1440 - 1630 LUX --3---- DH4

LG 8281 LUX 1315 - 1455 MRS ---4--- DH4
LG 8283 LUX 1320 - 1500 MRS ------7 DH4
LG 8282 MRS 1535 - 1720 LUX ---4--- DH4
LG 8284 MRS 1545 - 1730 LUX ------7 DH4

https://www.luxair.lu/en
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:29 pm

Luxair must be suffering a lot without business traffic. No more LUX-LCY at 500 EUR return. And business traffic at previous levels will not come back any soon.
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:27 am

During the next few weeks, TN will operate three PPT-YVR-CDG and return flights.

First one departs tomorrow.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... g-changes/
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:26 pm

Finist'air will run a few scheduled flights between Brest and both Belle-Île-en-Mer and Île d'Yeu on Saturdays over the summer. They are also running day trips to Jersey and Guernsey, but these are slightly less exotic airports. Normally they just run PSO flights (11 rotations per week) between Brest and Ouessant/Ushant offshore.

Île d'Yeu has both a heliport in the harbour in Port Joinville, the main town, and a separate aerodrome with a small landing strip 4 km away. While the heliport gets regular scheduled passenger/cargo service from Oya Vendée Helicoptères, the air strip on Île d'Yeu has not had scheduled commercial passenger service for a very long time (note wikipedia over-simplifies on the heliport/aerodrome subject)

A tour operator is trying to sell day trips from Brest to these 2 island with a minibus tour and meal all packaged in, but it's possible to book just a one-way or return air ticket with Finist'air
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:52 am

What is the price ?

I had never heard of this airline despite having family (and my parents holiday home) in Finistère. Flying a Cessna Caravan to Ouessant would be a worthy experience (I've already spent several weeks on Belle-Ile but never been to Ouessant).
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Re: French routes news thread

Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:20 am

Brest - Ouessant (74 €), Brest - Belle-Ile en Mer (150 €), Brest - île d’Yeu (184 €), Brest - Jersey (154 €) et Brest - Guernesey (164 €)
All prices are one way
www.finistair.fr for details
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:33 pm

Yeah it's on the pricey side !

I like the "insulaire" vs "continental" prices :d
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Re: French routes news thread

Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:49 pm

According to the french union FO, here are the changes about the LYS hub :

- AF will stay on the CDG route
- Transavia will operate the NTE / BOD / TLS sectors instead of HOP
- Hop will continue to operate routes to BES / BIQ / CFR / LIL / MRS / MXP / NCE / PUF / RNS / SXB
- flights to BLQ / BRU / LRT / ETZ / NUE / ORY / PIS / PRG / FCO / VCE to be dropped
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Re: French routes news thread

Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:54 pm

I thought Lyon-Marseille can be done by train in well under 2 hours... is it really worth flying this route just for connecting pax ?
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:18 am

Is it me or is AF struggling with HOP? They seem to be shifted around quite a bit.
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:42 am

I see the Air Saint-Pierre transatlantic flight between Saint-Pierre FSP and CDG is operating again this summer using an ASL '737. This along with 2 ATR flights a week to Montreal are the island's only links during Covid. Other flights to Halifax, Îles-de-la-Madeleine and St. John's are cancelled as well as the ferry to Newfoundland.

http://airsaintpierre.com/en/paris/

http://www.spm-tourisme.fr/
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:42 pm

davidjohnson6 wrote:
I thought Lyon-Marseille can be done by train in well under 2 hours... is it really worth flying this route just for connecting pax ?


I wouldn't call it 'well under,' but it can be done in under 2:00 about 15 trains a day.
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:08 pm

I noticed AF, TN and BF are routing CDG and ORY flights to and from PPT via YVR. Is this a recent change and will some of the carriers make it permanent?
 
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Re: French routes news thread

Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:36 am

    9252fly wrote:
    I noticed AF, TN and BF are routing CDG and ORY flights to and from PPT via YVR. Is this a recent change and will some of the carriers make it permanent?

    At the moment, French nationals can’t enter the US, even as a transit Pax at LAX...
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:16 pm

    I understand that since approx 1980, Le Bourget airport near Paris has been general aviation only
    If one purchases a seat-only ticket for flights on a scheduled airline from a travel agent that organises a trip to/from Le Bourget, what happens ?
     
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    Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:27 pm

    davidjohnson6 wrote:
    I understand that since approx 1980, Le Bourget airport near Paris has been general aviation only
    If one purchases a seat-only ticket for flights on a scheduled airline from a travel agent that organises a trip to/from Le Bourget, what happens ?


    Not sure to understand your question. What do you want to know ?
     
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    Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:32 pm

    I've been offered the chance to buy a one way seat only ticket from a scheduled airline, departing from Le Bourget. The airline operates only aircraft with more than 25 seats. The airline is reputable - I have bought a ticket from them in the past for travel between other airports without a problem

    If I pay for the ticket, and then turn up at Le Bourget, will I be able to board the aircraft, or will I just be told that the airline was naughty and that instead of transport I have to accept a refund instead ?
     
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    Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:11 pm

    According to this article in french (account needed to get whole page) https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-fi ... 57231.html Transavia will start dometic operations from november the 2nd with five routes :
    - Paris Orly - Biarritz replacing AF
    - Nantes - Toulouse replacing Hop
    - Nantes - Marseille replacing Hop
    - Nantes - Montpellier new route
    - Nantes - ?
     
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    Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:05 pm

    The fith route will be Nantes - Nice 4x weekly replacing AF

    ORY - BIQ 19x per week
    NTE - MRS 10x
    NTE - TLS 10x
    NTE - MPL 5x
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:34 pm

    Alsatian wrote:
    The fith route will be Nantes - Nice 4x weekly replacing AF

    ORY - BIQ 19x per week
    NTE - MRS 10x
    NTE - TLS 10x
    NTE - MPL 5x


    ORY-BIQ currently sees 4 daily AF flight down from 6 or 7 pre-covid so that's quiet the reduction really.
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:17 pm

    Thibault973 wrote:
    Alsatian wrote:
    The fith route will be Nantes - Nice 4x weekly replacing AF

    ORY - BIQ 19x per week
    NTE - MRS 10x
    NTE - TLS 10x
    NTE - MPL 5x


    ORY-BIQ currently sees 4 daily AF flight down from 6 or 7 pre-covid so that's quiet the reduction really.


    I'm afraid replacing Hop! ERJs with larger capacity Transavia 737s will result in reduced frequencies, covid or not.
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:13 pm

    [quote="ro1960"

    I'm afraid replacing Hop! ERJs with larger capacity Transavia 737s will result in reduced frequencies, covid or not.[/quote]

    All ORY-BIQ flights are operated with airbuses. Currently it's 3 318 and 1 320 a day.

    Hop! operates to BIQ from CDG so it's not just a frequency reduction, they are also slashing the number of seats offered.
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:53 am

    ro1960 wrote:
    Thibault973 wrote:
    Alsatian wrote:
    The fith route will be Nantes - Nice 4x weekly replacing AF

    ORY - BIQ 19x per week
    NTE - MRS 10x
    NTE - TLS 10x
    NTE - MPL 5x


    ORY-BIQ currently sees 4 daily AF flight down from 6 or 7 pre-covid so that's quiet the reduction really.


    I'm afraid replacing Hop! ERJs with larger capacity Transavia 737s will result in reduced frequencies, covid or not.


    The French government wants to reduce domestic air traffic, so it makes sense. Biarritz-Paris is a four hour train trip which is among the longest from Paris but still the train can be competitive, at least for leisure. In addition, business traffic will be likely reduced + economic recession.
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:15 am

    Vueling is back in the french domestic market as the carrier will launch Paris Orly - Brest / Marseille / Montpellier 2x weekly (friday and sunday) starting next month.

    https://www.vueling.com/en
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:42 pm

    Ryanair to open Beauvais base on December 3rd with 2 737s and 32 routes, including 2 new routes, Manchester and Paphos.

    https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryanair-ouvrira-une-nouvelle-base-a-paris-beauvais-a-lhiver-2020/?market=fr
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:48 pm

    Manchester-Beauvais is neither a new route nor a route restart for Ryanair
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:16 pm

    It took a collapse of the aviation industry to get an agreement to open a base at Beauvais.

    I would have expected something fancier than just a route to Cyprus! At least Tel Aviv.
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:49 am

    SCQ83 wrote:
    It took a collapse of the aviation industry to get an agreement to open a base at Beauvais.

    I would have expected something fancier than just a route to Cyprus! At least Tel Aviv.


    What's wrong with Cyprus? Currently the only non-stop link is on Wizz Air from LCA to BVA.
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:52 am

    There is nothing wrong about Cyprus. But Paris-Cyprus is a marginal market at best (the fact that no one serves Cyprus from CDG/ORY is quite telling).

    Something like BVA-TLV (Paris-Tel Aviv being a huge market) could create some buzz.
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:50 am

    SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
    Level could cancel ORY-LAS and ORY-BOS routes.

    The former was launched last Autumn and the latter should have started in March.

    https://www.air-journal.fr/2020-01-24-l ... 17781.html


    Level is again selling non-stop TATL tickets from ORY from October to EWR, YUL and FDF...
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:09 pm

    SCQ83 wrote:
    There is nothing wrong about Cyprus. But Paris-Cyprus is a marginal market at best (the fact that no one serves Cyprus from CDG/ORY is quite telling).

    Something like BVA-TLV (Paris-Tel Aviv being a huge market) could create some buzz.


    Then be more careful when using adjectives such as fancy when describing different markets. As for the market itself, it was served by Cobalt until they went bankrupt and by a few other airlines before that.
    The two markets were not connected only for a relatively short period of time. Market might not be massive but it's not marginal either.
     
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    Re: French routes news thread

    Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:29 am

    There is an article on ch-aviation about Jet Airlines in France planning to start scheduled flights
    Anyone heard of this company, and is there a URL or other info about them ? Is this just a new name for TwinJet or similiar ?
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