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Delta orders 100 P&W powered A321neo aircraft, plus 100 options

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:18 pm

BREAKING: Airbus has won the coveted Delta narrowbody RFP.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/13/news/co ... index.html

Discuss.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:25 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
Damn, would have loved to seen the MAX.


I'm trying to hold out hope its a split order.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:26 pm

As much as people want to believe. Delta is obligated to giving shareholders the highest value. I’m sure the recent Boeing debacle didn’t help either.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:27 pm

This is replacing 757s, correct?
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:27 pm

Damn, would have loved to seen the MAX.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:27 pm

Congrats to Airbus on the order. Solidifying a major blue chip customer.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:29 pm

How many more days does John Leahy have before retirement? There could be a lot more Airbus orders shortly..... :-)
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:30 pm

wich planes will the CSeries replace and wich plane will these |A321 replace?
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:31 pm

Nice win for Airbus. Interesting to see if American Airline's most favored nation clause for the A321 pricing comes into play.
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:34 pm

Congratulations to Delta and Airbus, the 321 is catching up lol.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:36 pm

osupoke07 wrote:
Nice win for Airbus. Interesting to see if American Airline's most favored nation clause for the A321 pricing comes into play.


The only detail that we actually know about the clause is that it eventually expires as Kirby stated, although he didn't say when...

Perhaps Delta and Airbus waited just long enough?
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:38 pm

Well that's another slap to Boeing. Really was hoping to see the MAX at DL.
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:38 pm

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Still one more month that his "friends in Seattle" have to face ...... :lol:
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:38 pm

Congrats to Airbus, but yes I think the potential negative political optics about this need to be considered now that "America first" mantra is a priority in D.C.
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:38 pm

No doubt the first 100 will replace 757s and domestic 767s ops. The second 100 will replace (some of) the 737-800s. I would expect a A320neo order to replace the rest of the 738s, A319 and the MDs as well. Delta is slowly turning into an all Airbus-fleet including the C-Series.

It's your own fault, Boeing. Time to quickly stop the Bombardier rant and dissociate from the Trump administration or you will loose more customers.

Congrats to Airbus. It's a great deal.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:41 pm

Big win for Airbus and PW - congrats to them :champagne:

Didn't see any mention in the article if these will be built in HSV or TLS - guessing some of each would be needed to fill an order that large unless DL is taking them at a slow rate
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:42 pm

I'll bet Pratt gave DL a smokin' deal given that the GTF has been losing some recent campaigns vs Leap!
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:43 pm

Congrats to Airbus and Delta Air Lines! Nice order.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:44 pm

As I've said in past threads, this is a win for the flying customer. Some don't appreciate the cabin width surplus on the airbus, but I do. I spend alot of time on delta narrowbody jets every year. I far prefer the thought of being on airbus and c-series than the 737 family. I know boeing still has the orders to justify the 737 line, but it's a very tired dog to me.
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:45 pm

Let's see if Boeing learns a lesson on not messing around with one of your customers.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:47 pm

LUCKY Delta Flight Attendants ! I sure wish we (at UNITED) ordered Airbus narrowbodies. I love working them , especially the A319s ! Can't stand working of 737s. I am happy though that we will be working to Tahiti from my home (and home base) of San Francisco. But still, would MUCH, MUCH rather work on Airbuses than 37s !! Hands down !
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:48 pm

Delta can be so silent but yet speak so loudly, with the decisions it made today. Such perfect political and economic timing.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:50 pm

one thing I want to say guys. Just because delta went airbus, doesn't mean it's payback for the bombardier trade complaint. Delta was still ordering significantly from airbus prior. While the complaint definitely did boeing no favors, this could have still easily went airbus.
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:50 pm

As I indicated in the RFP thread, I think this is less an Airbus order, and more a P&W GTF order. Between these NEO’s and the CSeries order, Delta is setting itself up to be a major MRO for the GTF engines. If the GTF was an engine option for the 737MAX, I think Boeing would have stood a much better chance in this contest.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:52 pm

dash400 wrote:
LUCKY Delta Flight Attendants ! I sure wish we (at UNITED) ordered Airbus narrowbodies. I love working them , especially the A319s ! Can't stand working of 737s. I am happy though that we will be working to Tahiti from my home (and home base) of San Francisco. But still, would MUCH, MUCH rather work on Airbuses than 37s !! Hands down !

Agreed on your FA perspective, but love the 737 much much more from a pilot perspective. But then again, it's all subjective to our personal opinions anyway.
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:55 pm

do we have any idea on delivery dates?
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:56 pm

Wasn't that supposed to be between the smaller A320neo/737-8MAX? As mentioned this looks more like a 757 replacement, which is about time anyway. Although if I'm not mistaken the A319/A320 aren't any younger.
I still see some room for a CS300 here. Maybe 50 of them. The one currently in Atlanta just seems strange otherwise.

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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:57 pm

The A321NEO will never be a 757 replacement.
The A321NEO will never be a 757 replacement.
The A321NEO will never be a 757 replacement.
The A321NEO will never be a 757 replacement.
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:00 pm

it would be nice to see some of these fitted for JFK-LAX/SFO/SEA with flatbed seating. Although I was just on a DL 757 transcon, the interior of the plane looked brand new and fresh.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:02 pm

I was expecting an 320 NEO order. So what is going to replace that A/C?
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:04 pm

Still nothing official from Delta.....
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:04 pm

In 5 or so years, won't the A321 (both CEO/NEO) represent the largest number of any single model aircraft in DL's fleet??
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:07 pm

Surprising decision given the current political climate.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:15 pm

Has the A321 caught up yet Randy?
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:21 pm

According to the article, the P&W powerplant has been selected. I suppose DL will share maintenance with the CSeries order?
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:22 pm

dash400 wrote:
LUCKY Delta Flight Attendants ! I sure wish we (at UNITED) ordered Airbus narrowbodies. I love working them , especially the A319s ! Can't stand working of 737s. I am happy though that we will be working to Tahiti from my home (and home base) of San Francisco. But still, would MUCH, MUCH rather work on Airbuses than 37s !! Hands down !


I couldn't agree more . This is a big win for passengers and flight attendants alike. Assuming these aircraft are configured like DL's current 321's, the wider seats and mid-lav alone make this aircraft far more desirable than a 737.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:22 pm

Just looked at delta's A321 seat map. With the new door arrangement they could possibly go from 20 - 29 - 143 = 192 to 20 - 36 - 143 = 199 by installing 7 Y+ seats where doors 2 used to be. Or as their 757 highest configuration 20 - 29 - 150 = 199. Does Delta usually have 4 or 5 FA on the A321/757? I'm asking because of the 20 first class seats and the increased service/time those Pax get.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:23 pm

It is a win for European jobs. If that disappoints you, vote with your wallet: avoid flying Delta or not.
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:24 pm

seahawk wrote:
Surprising decision given the current political climate.

Surprisingly, not everything revolves around politics. One thing you can bet on: DL got a good price. THAT is the true bottom line.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:24 pm

holzmann wrote:
It is a win for European jobs. If that disappoints you, vote with your wallet: avoid flying Delta or not.


The planes are going to.be assembled in Mobile, Alabama.....
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:27 pm

LockheedBBD wrote:
holzmann wrote:
It is a win for European jobs. If that disappoints you, vote with your wallet: avoid flying Delta or not.


The planes are going to.be assembled in Mobile, Alabama.....


Most of the pre-assembly happens in Europe though.
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:27 pm

Bricktop wrote:
seahawk wrote:
Surprising decision given the current political climate.

Surprisingly, not everything revolves around politics. One thing you can bet on: DL got a good price. THAT is the true bottom line.


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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:30 pm

Wonder when we will see a Twitter-Rant from a certain person if this comes out..

Great for Delta though!
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:44 pm

Wow, I'm definitely gonna fly Delta more. I have a lot of respect for a company that doesn't allow itself to be bullied by hypocritical and petty suppliers.
No doubt some of these will be built in Mobile so some people can put their cross faces and little red striped flags away.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:48 pm

As I said in the other thread, I don't understand all the America first comments, current political climate or otherwise. DL isn't going to take a worse deal just so they can fly American products. At the end of the day, there are three global US carriers, so passengers don't really have a ton of choice. Want to fly within the Southeast, you're best options are DL and AA, and both have sizable Airbus fleets.
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:49 pm

It was "just business" right? :lol: Businessmen are the ones that will forget less being stabbed by a vendor.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:53 pm

Congratulations to Delta, great choice. Definetly what I was hoping for.
seahawk wrote:
Surprising decision given the current political climate.

That’s one way of looking at it I guess, but I would say not so surprising considering the current political climate. Considering things such as the C Factor as Leeham had it. The supposed Trump factor may have also been the opposite of what they thought considering his stance from a few days ago on the ME3.
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:04 pm

Boeing execs really did this to themselves, and have nobody else to blame. Boeing should stick to building planes, and not get into the political side of things.
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:07 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
LockheedBBD wrote:
holzmann wrote:
It is a win for European jobs. If that disappoints you, vote with your wallet: avoid flying Delta or not.


The planes are going to.be assembled in Mobile, Alabama.....


Most of the pre-assembly happens in Europe though.


With a lot of stuff coming directly from the US, like engines.
 
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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:08 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
LockheedBBD wrote:
holzmann wrote:
It is a win for European jobs. If that disappoints you, vote with your wallet: avoid flying Delta or not.


The planes are going to.be assembled in Mobile, Alabama.....


Most of the pre-assembly happens in Europe though.

But spirit in the US had been supplying sections for European built A320’s.
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