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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:19 pm

AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
toltommy wrote:


Effective 4/3/18

JFK-PHL

Effective 5/7/18

DCA-ILM

Effective 6/8/17

DFW-FLG
DFW-EYW
DFW-MSO
MIA-SAV
ORD-MSO
ORD-PWM
ORD-SAV
ORD-ILM
ORD-BTV


Just to round out this thread about AA adds, effective 6/9/17, AA is also adding summer seasonal Saturday service on:

DFW-AVL (CR7)
DFW-MYR (E175)
DFW-ILM (E175)
ORD-MYR (CR7)
LAX-BZN (E175)
LAX-FLG (CR7)
LGA-TVC (E140)


Is it 6/8/17 or 6/8/18?
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:20 pm

Atlwarrior wrote:
AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
toltommy wrote:


Effective 4/3/18

JFK-PHL

Effective 5/7/18

DCA-ILM

Effective 6/8/17

DFW-FLG
DFW-EYW
DFW-MSO
MIA-SAV
ORD-MSO
ORD-PWM
ORD-SAV
ORD-ILM
ORD-BTV


Just to round out this thread about AA adds, effective 6/9/17, AA is also adding summer seasonal Saturday service on:

DFW-AVL (CR7)
DFW-MYR (E175)
DFW-ILM (E175)
ORD-MYR (CR7)
LAX-BZN (E175)
LAX-FLG (CR7)
LGA-TVC (E140)


Is it 6/8/17 or 6/8/18?


D'oh! Yes, 2018. Sorry.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:30 pm

SeaDoo wrote:
Nice to see AA add Missoula too.


I'd say it's, objectively, pretty impressive to see AA's growth in Montana - from nothing - since the merger. Next summer AA will be operating over 40 weekly flights to three destinations in Montana - that's obviously nothing compared to the capacity that longtime local players Alaska, Delta, United carry in and out of the state, but again, considering it was zero just a few years ago, that isn't bad. And as said, I still personally hope and expect there is more to come. I could easily envision a summer seasonal DFW-FCA in the future, too.

It's also notable how AA's growth in Montana is reflective of how AA continues to grow more broadly in secondary Pacific Northwest markets and, by extension, how AA continues to reduce its reliance on the Alaska codeshare. Just a few years ago, the AA network in the Pacific Northwest outside of SEA/PDX consisted of nothing but a couple of daily A319s PHX-BOI/GEG. AA is now operating daily flights (seasonal or year-round) to both of those markets from DFW and/or ORD, not to mention RJs into even smaller markets like MFR, RDM and EUG, and of course the aforementioned Montana flying. At this point, the markets still left that are AS/AA* only are few and quite small. Given AA's recent moves in the Rocky Mountain and Pacific Northwest regions, the only ones left that I could see AA being interested in entering itself are SUN and YYJ - both seem plausible for seasonal 2-class RJs from LAX and/or PHX.

KD5MDK wrote:
Glad to see PWM, that's a flight I'm likely to use.


Agreed. Very nice to see AA back in this market after a long absence, and good to see AA continue to strengthen its presence in Maine. AA's schedule into PWM and BGR next summer will be pretty strong, and cover all of AA's relevant hubs. I do wonder if, at some point down the road, AA may try and go after PQI, too, similar to ART - with a couple of daily ER4s to PHL.

AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
Just to round out this thread about AA adds, effective 6/9/17, AA is also adding summer seasonal Saturday service on:

DFW-AVL (CR7)
DFW-MYR (E175)
DFW-ILM (E175)
ORD-MYR (CR7)
LAX-BZN (E175)
LAX-FLG (CR7)
LGA-TVC (E140)


:checkmark: Similar to Delta and United, AA is clearly getting much more aggressive with opportunistic seasonal/weekend flying using spare capacity on weekends - good to see.

usflyer msp wrote:
That is odd, why even bother with only 1x weekly. I would have expected at least 4x weekly, especially from Miami?


The market isn't very large. 1x weekly is probably sufficient to remain competitive with Delta and United.

usflyer msp wrote:
I always wondered why AA never flew to BON.


AA - technically Eagle, operated by Executive - has flown to BON in the past, with an ATR from SJU.

usflyer msp wrote:
This flight will ends BON's unique status as the only island in the Caribbean with flights to IAH, EWR, and ATL but none to MIA.


Indeed. BON follows LIR, RTB, MID and CTG - all markets in the region that were first flown by competitors from other hubs, and then eventually by AA from MIA (and in some cases also DFW). Going forward, I could see AA using either EMB175s and/or A319s to make some additional markets work from MIA - including SVD, GDT, a return to DOM and maybe even a return to TAB.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:33 pm

Good to see AA copy UA's ORD-ILM route. Not sure there's enough room on this route for two carriers, but it will be great for pax to have some competition.
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:41 pm

AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
Atlwarrior wrote:
AVLAirlineFreq wrote:

Just to round out this thread about AA adds, effective 6/9/17, AA is also adding summer seasonal Saturday service on:

DFW-AVL (CR7)
DFW-MYR (E175)
DFW-ILM (E175)
ORD-MYR (CR7)
LAX-BZN (E175)
LAX-FLG (CR7)
LGA-TVC (E140)


Is it 6/8/17 or 6/8/18?


D'oh! Yes, 2018. Sorry.


No problems, I'm loving the Savannah adds.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:55 pm

Vctony wrote:
DFW- FLG is interesting. Currently the only service to FLG on any carrier is AA (Eagle) PHX - FLG, with seasonal LAX - FLG service starting in May and DFW - FLG service starting in June.


There's actually a lot of money in Flag as well as a fairly large state university. It and the surrounding area is where all the people of means from Phoenix flee to during the summer time and the property values certainly reflect that. It's also much closer to Sedona than PHX is which is also a huge draw. Relative close proximity to the Grand Canyon doesn't hurt either. Flag is great to use as a base to hit both attractions without having to pay the exorbitant rooms fees in either(although hotels in Flag still aren''t cheap for what it is....).
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:10 pm

EYW to DFW will have to be a E-jet. I remember WN could only fly as far as MSY from EYW with their -700's .
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:22 pm

No ORD-ONT Red eye flight like last summer.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:50 pm

United_fan wrote:
EYW to DFW will have to be a E-jet. I remember WN could only fly as far as MSY from EYW with their -700's .


Yes, however Delta was able to fly as far as LGA with their -700s. Same plane different retrofitting.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:05 pm

evank516 wrote:
United_fan wrote:
EYW to DFW will have to be a E-jet. I remember WN could only fly as far as MSY from EYW with their -700's .


Yes, however Delta was able to fly as far as LGA with their -700s. Same plane different retrofitting.


True. I wonder how many seats were blocked? Maybe AA could use an A319.
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:01 pm

DanDun wrote:
Do we know what aircraft they will be using on JFK-PHL?


The E145 I brlieve.
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:24 pm

Atlwarrior wrote:
Is it 6/8/17 or 6/8/18?


C'mon, seriously? it's December 2017. Did the service start last June and everyone on A.net missed it. Nothing wrong with pointing out an error, but you'll notice that everyone else here used common sense. I will correct it. Thanks.
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:09 pm

United_fan wrote:
evank516 wrote:
United_fan wrote:
EYW to DFW will have to be a E-jet. I remember WN could only fly as far as MSY from EYW with their -700's .


Yes, however Delta was able to fly as far as LGA with their -700s. Same plane different retrofitting.


True. I wonder how many seats were blocked? Maybe AA could use an A319.


I'm not sure if they blocked any at all. Delta's 737-700s have special retrofitting for short runways plus they imposed the checked bag embargo.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:21 pm

usflyer msp wrote:
chepos wrote:
MIA BON (once weekly) was announced internally today.


That is odd, why even bother with only 1x weekly. I would have expected at least 4x weekly, especially from Miami?

I always wondered why AA never flew to BON. This flight will ends BON's unique status as the only island in the Caribbean with flights to IAH, EWR, and ATL but none to MIA.


United only flies there on Saturdays, as well. Delta is Saturday/Sunday.

It's a package (scuba) market. Very little demand but high yield.
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:07 pm

acentauri wrote:
phluser wrote:
HPAEAA wrote:

Harrisburg-Philadelphia is one of Amtrak's most successful routes at 14 x Mon-Fri - it has never been subsidized. OTOH, Pittsburgh's single - Harrisburg route has been and still is subsidized by PA..


Harrisburg-Philly is funded from PennDOT.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:12 am

With FLG now adding nonstops from DFW and LAX - is this the first salvo in AA's long anticipated dehubbing of PHX?

One of the key rationales that keeps getting presented in favor of PHX being retained as a hub was its connectivity to the smaller cities in the vicinity. But if AA can reach these places in a pincer movement with RJ's from LAX in the West and DFW in the East, would'nt they be able to right size PHX down to something more appropriate?
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:49 am

Adipocere wrote:
With FLG now adding nonstops from DFW and LAX - is this the first salvo in AA's long anticipated dehubbing of PHX?

One of the key rationales that keeps getting presented in favor of PHX being retained as a hub was its connectivity to the smaller cities in the vicinity. But if AA can reach these places in a pincer movement with RJ's from LAX in the West and DFW in the East, would'nt they be able to right size PHX down to something more appropriate?


This again? DFW FLG is going to be a 1 weekly flight (seasonal), PHx will
still have the bulk of connections.
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:59 am

chepos wrote:
Adipocere wrote:
With FLG now adding nonstops from DFW and LAX - is this the first salvo in AA's long anticipated dehubbing of PHX?

One of the key rationales that keeps getting presented in favor of PHX being retained as a hub was its connectivity to the smaller cities in the vicinity. But if AA can reach these places in a pincer movement with RJ's from LAX in the West and DFW in the East, would'nt they be able to right size PHX down to something more appropriate?


This again? DFW FLG is going to be a 1 weekly flight (seasonal), PHx will
still have the bulk of connections.


Seriously why does everyone think PHX is going to be dehubbed, AA has added 16 new destinations from PHX since the merger.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:03 am

From whats loaded online, it looks like a lot of these are Saturday only type services. DFW-ILM for example is only Saturday. Was hoping for more as DCA-ILM only on Saturday is not a true competitor to IAD-ILM x2 daily.
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:55 am

airliner371 wrote:
Balloonchaser wrote:
cporcelli78 wrote:


How do you know this? I would love it, especially a CLT conection.


AA has stated that they would love more service and rumor is that they have gotten spots for DCA-ISP and they would be the ones to go into KCLT (One of ISP’s biggest markets.

To be clear, AA has stated nothing. You are just spreading a rumor. Whether anything comes of it is one thing but no sir, AA has stated nothing.


:checkmark: Please stop spreading these "rumors" that some people start in their head... AA has not said one word about any of these destinations. Whether its true or not we should wait until theres some sort of word which help with the crazy speculation add-ons in the comments
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:13 pm

4engines4lnghll wrote:
airliner371 wrote:
Balloonchaser wrote:

AA has stated that they would love more service and rumor is that they have gotten spots for DCA-ISP and they would be the ones to go into KCLT (One of ISP’s biggest markets.

To be clear, AA has stated nothing. You are just spreading a rumor. Whether anything comes of it is one thing but no sir, AA has stated nothing.


:checkmark: Please stop spreading these "rumors" that some people start in their head... AA has not said one word about any of these destinations. Whether its true or not we should wait until theres some sort of word which help with the crazy speculation add-ons in the comments

Speculation and rumors and guessing is one thing, and sure it's fun, but you can't spread false information, and the fact is, AA has said nothing.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:28 pm

I have no idea why AA doesn't serve ORD-BTV United owns this route and charges insane fares especially in summer. This route is begging for AA.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:53 pm

slcdeltarumd11 wrote:
I have no idea why AA doesn't serve ORD-BTV United owns this route and charges insane fares especially in summer. This route is begging for AA.

On the OAG thread, it shows AA is adding up to 2x a day ORD-BTV.
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:50 pm

I admit I haven't studied (or even seen) what AA has posted for June 2018 in a while, but I love the fact that they are adding, from SAN, a 3rd nonstop to JFK!

It's been a long time since the carrier has even operated daily-double service in the market, and a much longer spell since they actually flew 3 times a day between SAN and JFK! I often get the feeling that they have little interest in defending a market that they've flown, uninterrupted, since 1967! But with B6 bringing Mint to the market -- apparently very successfully -- DL going 4x daily, and with some rumors of AS getting ready to enter the market, AA apparently decided to make a move!

Hopefully, AA will decide to keep at least daily-double service in the market year-round starting in the fall of 2018. Prolly wishful thinking on my part...

Also, AA is going dly-dbl on SAN-MIA again this summer, starting inn May 2018! Considering they went decades with no service at all in the market, it's wonderful to see them able to offer 2 flights a day, if only for part of the year.

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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:30 pm

I would ask why no ORD-MHT on AA? MHT is a bigger market than either BTV or PWM! UA with their rj's would allow AA to get the market with 2 E-175 flights a day.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:45 pm

georgiabill wrote:
I would ask why no ORD-MHT on AA? MHT is a bigger market than either BTV or PWM! UA with their rj's would allow AA to get the market with 2 E-175 flights a day.

Probably because WN already does MHT-Chicago, taking a bunch of O&D. AA probably figures they would grab less O&D from MHT than they would at BTV, although MHT could probably still fill the airplanes with connecting traffic. AA has been reasonably good to MHT recently and I'm sure they are looking at the route. Maybe if airport management only offered a little incentive, or even awareness of the opportunity, AA could be persuaded to start the route sooner rather than later.
 
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:20 pm

SANFan wrote:
I admit I haven't studied (or even seen) what AA has posted for June 2018 in a while, but I love the fact that they are adding, from SAN, a 3rd nonstop to JFK!

It's been a long time since the carrier has even operated daily-double service in the market, and a much longer spell since they actually flew 3 times a day between SAN and JFK! I often get the feeling that they have little interest in defending a market that they've flown, uninterrupted, since 1967! But with B6 bringing Mint to the market -- apparently very successfully -- DL going 4x daily, and with some rumors of AS getting ready to enter the market, AA apparently decided to make a move!

Hopefully, AA will decide to keep at least daily-double service in the market year-round starting in the fall of 2018. Prolly wishful thinking on my part...

Also, AA is going dly-dbl on SAN-MIA again this summer, starting inn May 2018! Considering they went decades with no service at all in the market, it's wonderful to see them able to offer 2 flights a day, if only for part of the year.

bb


AA has been double daily MIASAN for a while now. It’s just the shoulder that it’s single daily (eg September). It’s double daily right now.

Also JFKSAN should be one of the first routes to see the lie flat 757 domestics in June.
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:34 pm

MAH4546 wrote:
AA has been double daily MIASAN for a while now. It’s just the shoulder that it’s single daily (eg September). It’s double daily right now.

You are right. AA restarted the route in 2013 and I believe 2015 was the first year they doubled up on the service in the summer. And they have continued to do so during Spring Break, the Christmas holiday period, etc., making it a bit less seasonal each year. So yes, late winter and fall are actually about the only times the flight is a single frequency anymore. Very nice to see.

Thanks for the reminder.

MAH4546 wrote:
Also JFK-SAN should be one of the first routes to see the lie flat 757 domestics in June.

Yes, I do remember hearing that -- great! I'll have to check and see how many of the nonstops will see that upgrade.

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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:59 pm

Balloonchaser wrote:
evank516 wrote:
Balloonchaser wrote:
I know that American is expanding in some way at KISP this coming year. Im thinking 3 times daily to DCA along with adding 5x weekly DFW and 1 daily CLT and MYR

3x - KPHL - E145
3x - KDCA - E145
1x - KMYR (Seasonal) - CRJ 200
2x (Seasonal) - KCLT - E175
5x Weekly (Seasonal) - KDFW - A320


DCA is slot restricted so unless they got more slots it's not happening, MYR is probably not happening. CLT may happen soon, and DFW is probably not in the cards right now.


For American, apparently ISP is the next route for DCA.
MYR is the highest Vacational Route for MYR (#1 on requested)

Now DFW is up there but I think over the next year or 2 we could see that


ISP-ORD will happen before ISP-DFW. Heck, AA doesn’t fly DFW-BUF/ALB/SYR/PVD... ISP won’t happen soon.
 
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Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:19 am

SANFan wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:
AA has been double daily MIASAN for a while now. It’s just the shoulder that it’s single daily (eg September). It’s double daily right now.

You are right. AA restarted the route in 2013 and I believe 2015 was the first year they doubled up on the service in the summer. And they have continued to do so during Spring Break, the Christmas holiday period, etc., making it a bit less seasonal each year. So yes, late winter and fall are actually about the only times the flight is a single frequency anymore. Very nice to see.

Thanks for the reminder.

MAH4546 wrote:
Also JFK-SAN should be one of the first routes to see the lie flat 757 domestics in June.

Yes, I do remember hearing that -- great! I'll have to check and see how many of the nonstops will see that upgrade.

bb


Correct but MIASAN was upped to double daily at the end of October and is now double daily through end of schedule, I believe.
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:40 am

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Do we know what aircraft they will be using on JFK-PHL?


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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:03 pm

CHI2DFW wrote:
Balloonchaser wrote:
evank516 wrote:

DCA is slot restricted so unless they got more slots it's not happening, MYR is probably not happening. CLT may happen soon, and DFW is probably not in the cards right now.


For American, apparently ISP is the next route for DCA.
MYR is the highest Vacational Route for MYR (#1 on requested)

Now DFW is up there but I think over the next year or 2 we could see that


ISP-ORD will happen before ISP-DFW. Heck, AA doesn’t fly DFW-BUF/ALB/SYR/PVD... ISP won’t happen soon.


I agree. Wouldn't be the first time AA flew this if they add it. I think ISP-ORD ended in 2004.

By the way, DFW-EYW is still not filed on OAG and not available on aa.com.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:05 pm

airtran737 wrote:
DanDun wrote:
Do we know what aircraft they will be using on JFK-PHL?


Envoy ERJ-140


I wonder how often that will get cancelled in the summer storm season?
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:53 pm

Are there other 140 flights out of JFK? Because there have not been any out of PHL that I've seen in schedules.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:29 pm

usairways85 wrote:
Are there other 140 flights out of JFK? Because there have not been any out of PHL that I've seen in schedules.


Looking at late February schedules, I see JFK-CVG as the only one. Looks like it rotates to JFK from LGA-CVG.
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:14 pm

usairways85 wrote:
Are there other 140 flights out of JFK? Because there have not been any out of PHL that I've seen in schedules.


I want to say that the 140s were actually retired/ stored / sent to the desert, and are just coming back into the system now.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:23 pm

Adipocere wrote:
With FLG now adding nonstops from DFW and LAX - is this the first salvo in AA's long anticipated dehubbing of PHX?

One of the key rationales that keeps getting presented in favor of PHX being retained as a hub was its connectivity to the smaller cities in the vicinity. But if AA can reach these places in a pincer movement with RJ's from LAX in the West and DFW in the East, would'nt they be able to right size PHX down to something more appropriate?


If AA had any such plans, a couple routes to FLG surely wouldn't be an indicator of them.

At any rate, PHX-FLG makes more sense than the other two given the amount of O&D traffic between the two.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:41 pm

ty97 wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
Are there other 140 flights out of JFK? Because there have not been any out of PHL that I've seen in schedules.


I want to say that the 140s were actually retired/ stored / sent to the desert, and are just coming back into the system now.

Yes, that is the case. But I do not believe PHL is a base for Envoy. PHL is primarily Piedmont, Republic, and PSA flying. So these planes have to come from somewhere.
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:02 am

Also, a missed route here is CLT-ACK. E75 service by YX, starts 6/23.

CLT-ACK
1610 dep-1820 arr

ACK-CLT
1305 dep-1525 arr
 
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:54 am

panam330 wrote:
Also, a missed route here is CLT-ACK. E75 service by YX, starts 6/23.

CLT-ACK
1610 dep-1820 arr

ACK-CLT
1305 dep-1525 arr

How bizarre. AA doesn't even do PHL-ACK IIRC.
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SCQ83
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:10 pm

USAirALB wrote:
panam330 wrote:
Also, a missed route here is CLT-ACK. E75 service by YX, starts 6/23.

CLT-ACK
1610 dep-1820 arr

ACK-CLT
1305 dep-1525 arr

How bizarre. AA doesn't even do PHL-ACK IIRC.


I don't think it is that weird. AA serves ACK from LGA and DCA (focus on local market). PHL is in between.

CLT seems a better place to get connections from the rest of the US.
 
nc3rd
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:24 pm

airliner371 wrote:
Balloonchaser wrote:
cporcelli78 wrote:


How do you know this? I would love it, especially a CLT conection.


AA has stated that they would love more service and rumor is that they have gotten spots for DCA-ISP and they would be the ones to go into KCLT (One of ISP’s biggest markets.

To be clear, AA has stated nothing. You are just spreading a rumor. Whether anything comes of it is one thing but no sir, AA has stated nothing.

Ain’t no way AA is adding ISP point to point flying. 0 chance.
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jeffrey1970
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:28 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
JFK-PHL is the most interesting.

Is AA looking at capturing AAdvantage Platinum customers in NYC flying e.g. JFK-PHL-PRG?


I always wondered why they did not serve JFK from PHL.
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redwingspilot
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:34 pm

Here's all the 2018 domestic adds so far

2/15/18 DCA-TLH
4/3/18 DFW-OAK
4/3/18 PHX-AMA
4/3/18 PHX-OKC
4/3/18 DCA-LIT
4/3/18 DCA-MYR
4/3/18 JFK-PHL
5/4/18 ORD-YVR
5/4/18 DCA-VPS
5/4/18 LAX-FLG
5/4/18 ORD-CHS
5/7/18 DCA-ILM
6/7/18 DCA-MGM
6/7/18 JFK-DEN
6/7/18 DFW-AVL
6/7/18 LAX-BZN
6/7/18 LGA-TVC
6/7/18 ORD-BGR
6/7/18 ORD-MYR
6/7/18 DFW-FLG
6/7/18 DFW-EYW
6/7/18 DFW-MSO
6/7/18 MIA-SAV
6/7/18 ORD-MSO
6/7/18 ORD-PWM
6/7/18 ORD-SAV
6/7/18 ORD-ILM
6/7/18 ORD-BTV
6/7/2018 - 9/4/2018 ORD-YYC
 
evank516
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:41 pm

redwingspilot wrote:
Here's all the 2018 domestic adds so far

2/15/18 DCA-TLH
4/3/18 DFW-OAK
4/3/18 PHX-AMA
4/3/18 PHX-OKC
4/3/18 DCA-LIT
4/3/18 DCA-MYR
4/3/18 JFK-PHL
5/4/18 ORD-YVR
5/4/18 DCA-VPS
5/4/18 LAX-FLG
5/4/18 ORD-CHS
5/7/18 DCA-ILM
6/7/18 DCA-MGM
6/7/18 JFK-DEN
6/7/18 DFW-AVL
6/7/18 LAX-BZN
6/7/18 LGA-TVC
6/7/18 ORD-BGR
6/7/18 ORD-MYR
6/7/18 DFW-FLG
6/7/18 DFW-EYW
6/7/18 DFW-MSO
6/7/18 MIA-SAV
6/7/18 ORD-MSO
6/7/18 ORD-PWM
6/7/18 ORD-SAV
6/7/18 ORD-ILM
6/7/18 ORD-BTV
6/7/2018 - 9/4/2018 ORD-YYC


Wonder if AA might be considering DCA-DAB or DFW-DAB. My guess is if TLH can support it, DAB can too.
 
Rdh3e
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:47 pm

redwingspilot wrote:
Here's all the 2018 domestic adds so far

6/7/2018 - 9/4/2018 ORD-YYC

ORD-MSO and ORD-SAV also appear to be seasonal with September 4th end dates.
 
tphuang
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:49 pm

jeffrey1970 wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
JFK-PHL is the most interesting.

Is AA looking at capturing AAdvantage Platinum customers in NYC flying e.g. JFK-PHL-PRG?


I always wondered why they did not serve JFK from PHL.

Because there is already lga phl that captures all the connection traffic. If lga is closer for most people then who is going to fly JFK phl international over lga phl international?
 
Northwest1988
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:49 pm

So is it safe to say American is following Delta and ditching RJs for mainline?
 
OslPhlWasChi
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:10 pm

redwingspilot wrote:
Here's all the 2018 domestic adds so far

2/15/18 DCA-TLH
4/3/18 DFW-OAK
4/3/18 PHX-AMA
4/3/18 PHX-OKC
4/3/18 DCA-LIT
4/3/18 DCA-MYR
4/3/18 JFK-PHL
5/4/18 ORD-YVR
5/4/18 DCA-VPS
5/4/18 LAX-FLG
5/4/18 ORD-CHS
5/7/18 DCA-ILM
6/7/18 DCA-MGM
6/7/18 JFK-DEN
6/7/18 DFW-AVL
6/7/18 LAX-BZN
6/7/18 LGA-TVC
6/7/18 ORD-BGR
6/7/18 ORD-MYR
6/7/18 DFW-FLG
6/7/18 DFW-EYW
6/7/18 DFW-MSO
6/7/18 MIA-SAV
6/7/18 ORD-MSO
6/7/18 ORD-PWM
6/7/18 ORD-SAV
6/7/18 ORD-ILM
6/7/18 ORD-BTV
6/7/2018 - 9/4/2018 ORD-YYC


I am sure there were other previously announced adds at other AA hubs for S18 but at least when it comes to PHL, the following domestic adds are also coming:

2/15/18 PHL-SAT
5/4/18 PHL-DSM
5/4/18 PHL-MSN
5/4/18 PHL-OMA

Someone may want to locate any others also missing from this list. (And YYC as a domestic add?)
 
UpNAWAy
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Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:11 pm

Adipocere wrote:
With FLG now adding nonstops from DFW and LAX - is this the first salvo in AA's long anticipated dehubbing of PHX?

One of the key rationales that keeps getting presented in favor of PHX being retained as a hub was its connectivity to the smaller cities in the vicinity. But if AA can reach these places in a pincer movement with RJ's from LAX in the West and DFW in the East, would'nt they be able to right size PHX down to something more appropriate?




There is and will be no big reductions in PHX. And you certainly wouldn't add PHX-AMA and PHX-OKC if that was the case.
I bet this is more a case of giving FLG folks one stop options to most everywhere instead of going to FLG-PHX-LAX or FLG-PHX-DFW just to connect to a final destination.

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