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AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:15 pm
by toltommy
Looks like AA is continuing to add hubs to a number of existing markets. The move to focus non O&D international traffic at PHL becomes a little more obvious at this time as well. No idea on frequencies or aircraft type. We can all do what we do best and speculate until Enrilia sees the adds this weekend...

Effective 4/3/18

JFK-PHL

Effective 5/7/18

DCA-ILM

Effective 6/8/17

DFW-FLG
DFW-EYW
DFW-MSO
MIA-SAV
ORD-MSO
ORD-PWM
ORD-SAV
ORD-ILM
ORD-BTV

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:19 pm
by evank516
WHOA! DFW-EYW is coming in? Not TOTALLY surprised, but at the same time they've been sticking with MIA-EYW only until very recently, and that's only because of the US/AA merger which gave AA their CLT hub.

By the way, not seeing that loaded on AA.com yet.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:20 pm
by SCQ83
JFK-PHL is the most interesting.

Is AA looking at capturing AAdvantage Platinum customers in NYC flying e.g. JFK-PHL-PRG?

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:24 pm
by SCQ83
evank516 wrote:
WHOA! DFW-EYW is coming in? Not TOTALLY surprised, but at the same time they've been sticking with MIA-EYW only until very recently, and that's only because of the US/AA merger which gave AA their CLT hub.

By the way, not seeing that loaded on AA.com yet.


That is another interesting one. I wonder if that has to do also with Asian tourism? DFW having flights to PVG, PEK, NRT or ICN, if timed well, that means 1-stop to Key West from those Asian cities (not achievable from MIA or CLT). The Keys (and driving the Overseas Highway) are quite renowned globally.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:27 pm
by evank516
SCQ83 wrote:
evank516 wrote:
WHOA! DFW-EYW is coming in? Not TOTALLY surprised, but at the same time they've been sticking with MIA-EYW only until very recently, and that's only because of the US/AA merger which gave AA their CLT hub.

By the way, not seeing that loaded on AA.com yet.


That is another interesting one. I wonder if that has to do also with Asian tourism? DFW having flights to PVG, PEK, NRT or ICN, if timed well, that means 1-stop to Key West from those Asian cities (not achievable from MIA or CLT). The Keys (and driving the Overseas Highway) are quite renowned globally.


Agreed. Guessing this will be another E170/175 route. Is DFW-EYW shorter than DCA-EYW? The E170/175 can handle the short runway for that long of a flight, right?

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:31 pm
by miaskies
evank516 wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
evank516 wrote:
WHOA! DFW-EYW is coming in? Not TOTALLY surprised, but at the same time they've been sticking with MIA-EYW only until very recently, and that's only because of the US/AA merger which gave AA their CLT hub.

By the way, not seeing that loaded on AA.com yet.


That is another interesting one. I wonder if that has to do also with Asian tourism? DFW having flights to PVG, PEK, NRT or ICN, if timed well, that means 1-stop to Key West from those Asian cities (not achievable from MIA or CLT). The Keys (and driving the Overseas Highway) are quite renowned globally.


Agreed. Guessing this will be another E170/175 route. Is DFW-EYW shorter than DCA-EYW? The E170/175 can handle the short runway for that long of a flight, right?



Yes it can - YX/Eagle does CLT-EYW, DCA-EYW on the 175 and YX/UA does ORD-EYW and EWR-EYW on the 175.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:32 pm
by MAH4546
Nice to see Miami-Savannah come back.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:33 pm
by FSDan
Lots of connecting the dots indeed! There are a few more dots I'd like to see connected: MIA-BUF (year round - so far it's just seasonal), MIA-PVD, MIA-MKE, DFW-BUF, and DFW-PVD. I think all of those could be 1x daily E75 routes if timed well for connections.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:37 pm
by evank516
miaskies wrote:
evank516 wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:

That is another interesting one. I wonder if that has to do also with Asian tourism? DFW having flights to PVG, PEK, NRT or ICN, if timed well, that means 1-stop to Key West from those Asian cities (not achievable from MIA or CLT). The Keys (and driving the Overseas Highway) are quite renowned globally.


Agreed. Guessing this will be another E170/175 route. Is DFW-EYW shorter than DCA-EYW? The E170/175 can handle the short runway for that long of a flight, right?



Yes it can - YX/Eagle does CLT-EYW, DCA-EYW on the 175 and YX/UA does ORD-EYW and EWR-EYW on the 175.


EWR/ORD-EYW is the 170 variant, not the 175, but I'm guessing there isn't much of a difference.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:41 pm
by Vctony
DFW- FLG is interesting. Currently the only service to FLG on any carrier is AA (Eagle) PHX - FLG, with seasonal LAX - FLG service starting in May and DFW - FLG service starting in June.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:43 pm
by Balloonchaser
I know that American is expanding in some way at KISP this coming year. Im thinking 3 times daily to DCA along with adding 5x weekly DFW and 1 daily CLT and MYR

3x - KPHL - E145
3x - KDCA - E145
1x - KMYR (Seasonal) - CRJ 200
2x (Seasonal) - KCLT - E175
5x Weekly (Seasonal) - KDFW - A320

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:48 pm
by commavia
More very cool adds.

Also very happy to see MIA-BON finally added - another obvious market for AA out of the MIA hub. 8-)

toltommy wrote:
DCA-ILM


Another logical, opportunistic seasonal leisure market. (And a restart, I believe, right? Didn't USAirways fly this route, maybe on and off, for years?)

toltommy wrote:
DFW-FLG


As predicted when LAX-FLG was loaded a few weeks ago ... nice!

toltommy wrote:
DFW-EYW


Wow ... interesting.

toltommy wrote:
DFW-MSO
ORD-MSO


Awesome to see even more growth for AA in Montana. Hoping DFW-FCA happens in the not too distant future, too!

toltommy wrote:
MIA-SAV

MAH4546 wrote:
Nice to see Miami-Savannah come back.


Agreed. Another solid add to the MIA hub from a market where AA now offers fairly comprehensive coverage in all directions.

toltommy wrote:
ORD-PWM
ORD-SAV
ORD-BTV


Yeah ... AA is definitely closing the ORD hub. :lol: Happy to see all of these. PWM and BTV, in particular, were the two major remaining northeast markets that seemed like obvious gaps given AA's post-merger strength in the region.

toltommy wrote:
ORD-ILM


Oh hey, United.

FSDan wrote:
Lots of connecting the dots indeed! There are a few more dots I'd like to see connected: MIA-BUF (year round - so far it's just seasonal), MIA-PVD, MIA-MKE, DFW-BUF, and DFW-PVD. I think all of those could be 1x daily E75 routes if timed well for connections.


I agree that MIA-BUF and MIA-PVD both seem like obviously 2-class RJ routes. I'd also add DFW-BUF and DFW-MDT to that list.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:58 pm
by FlyPNS1
Interesting thing with the ILM adds as UA just recently announced they would starty ORD-ILM and IAD-ILM. Seems like ILM is going to get quite the flood of capacity...at least temporarily. My guess is the add of DCA-ILM will kill IAD-ILM.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:00 pm
by evank516
Balloonchaser wrote:
I know that American is expanding in some way at KISP this coming year. Im thinking 3 times daily to DCA along with adding 5x weekly DFW and 1 daily CLT and MYR

3x - KPHL - E145
3x - KDCA - E145
1x - KMYR (Seasonal) - CRJ 200
2x (Seasonal) - KCLT - E175
5x Weekly (Seasonal) - KDFW - A320


DCA is slot restricted so unless they got more slots it's not happening, MYR is probably not happening. CLT may happen soon, and DFW is probably not in the cards right now.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:09 pm
by Balloonchaser
evank516 wrote:
Balloonchaser wrote:
I know that American is expanding in some way at KISP this coming year. Im thinking 3 times daily to DCA along with adding 5x weekly DFW and 1 daily CLT and MYR

3x - KPHL - E145
3x - KDCA - E145
1x - KMYR (Seasonal) - CRJ 200
2x (Seasonal) - KCLT - E175
5x Weekly (Seasonal) - KDFW - A320


DCA is slot restricted so unless they got more slots it's not happening, MYR is probably not happening. CLT may happen soon, and DFW is probably not in the cards right now.


For American, apparently ISP is the next route for DCA.
MYR is the highest Vacational Route for MYR (#1 on requested)

Now DFW is up there but I think over the next year or 2 we could see that

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:10 pm
by LotsaRunway
toltommy wrote:
ORD-PWM
ORD-BTV


Wow! Another slap to the face of MHT by omission!

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:13 pm
by SeaDoo
toltommy wrote:
Looks like AA is continuing to add hubs to a number of existing markets. The move to focus non O&D international traffic at PHL becomes a little more obvious at this time as well. No idea on frequencies or aircraft type. We can all do what we do best and speculate until Enrilia sees the adds this weekend...

Effective 4/3/18

JFK-PHL

Effective 5/7/18

DCA-ILM

Effective 6/8/17

DFW-FLG
DFW-EYW
DFW-MSO
MIA-SAV
ORD-MSO
ORD-PWM
ORD-SAV
ORD-ILM
ORD-BTV


These are nice adds. I hope they are profitable and stick around. Nice to see FLG get some eastward connectivity. Nice to see AA add Missoula too. Surprised to see DFW-EYW. I would have thought with the runway issues would make this too far. I looked at EYW on wiki and see they even have a flight to ORD, so I guess DFW is easier. Does UA have any restrictions flying to ORD?

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:19 pm
by airliner371
Balloonchaser wrote:
I know that American is expanding in some way at KISP this coming year. Im thinking 3 times daily to DCA along with adding 5x weekly DFW and 1 daily CLT and MYR

3x - KPHL
3x - KDCA
1x - KMYR (Seasonal)
2x (Seasonal) - KCLT
5x Weekly (Seasonal) - KDFW

MYR is absolutely not happening on AA. DFW, quite unlikely. DCA or CLT, I could see it. One, not both. DCA definitely not at 3x. 1x daily, 2x if you're lucky.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:20 pm
by evank516
SeaDoo wrote:
toltommy wrote:
Looks like AA is continuing to add hubs to a number of existing markets. The move to focus non O&D international traffic at PHL becomes a little more obvious at this time as well. No idea on frequencies or aircraft type. We can all do what we do best and speculate until Enrilia sees the adds this weekend...

Effective 4/3/18

JFK-PHL

Effective 5/7/18

DCA-ILM

Effective 6/8/17

DFW-FLG
DFW-EYW
DFW-MSO
MIA-SAV
ORD-MSO
ORD-PWM
ORD-SAV
ORD-ILM
ORD-BTV


These are nice adds. I hope they are profitable and stick around. Nice to see FLG get some eastward connectivity. Nice to see AA add Missoula too. Surprised to see DFW-EYW. I would have thought with the runway issues would make this too far. I looked at EYW on wiki and see they even have a flight to ORD, so I guess DFW is easier. Does UA have any restrictions flying to ORD?


ORD-EYW: Embraer 170
Guessing DFW-EYW is an Embraer 175. Not sure if there are any differences in performance regarding short fields. I do know that the E-170 is pretty phenomenal when it comes to short runways though so my guess is there are no restrictions on ORD-EYW.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:22 pm
by ty97
evank516 wrote:
WHOA! DFW-EYW is coming in? Not TOTALLY surprised, but at the same time they've been sticking with MIA-EYW only until very recently, and that's only because of the US/AA merger which gave AA their CLT hub.

By the way, not seeing that loaded on AA.com yet.


I presume we'll these flights get added during tomorrow's schedule changes.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:22 pm
by cporcelli78
Balloonchaser wrote:
I know that American is expanding in some way at KISP this coming year. Im thinking 3 times daily to DCA along with adding 5x weekly DFW and 1 daily CLT and MYR

3x - KPHL - E145
3x - KDCA - E145
1x - KMYR (Seasonal) - CRJ 200
2x (Seasonal) - KCLT - E175
5x Weekly (Seasonal) - KDFW - A320



How do you know this? I would love it, especially a CLT conection.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:29 pm
by cporcelli78
How do you know ISP is getting more flights on AA? I would love to see this as an AA Executive Platinum with family in the area.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:31 pm
by grbauc
evank516 wrote:
Balloonchaser wrote:
I know that American is expanding in some way at KISP this coming year. Im thinking 3 times daily to DCA along with adding 5x weekly DFW and 1 daily CLT and MYR

3x - KPHL - E145
3x - KDCA - E145
1x - KMYR (Seasonal) - CRJ 200
2x (Seasonal) - KCLT - E175
5x Weekly (Seasonal) - KDFW - A320


DCA is slot restricted so unless they got more slots it's not happening, MYR is probably not happening. CLT may happen soon, and DFW is probably not in the cards right now.


DCA What they can't transfer one of there other Slots over? I'm pretty sure they can run the route if there determined to.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:52 pm
by Balloonchaser
grbauc wrote:
evank516 wrote:
Balloonchaser wrote:
I know that American is expanding in some way at KISP this coming year. Im thinking 3 times daily to DCA along with adding 5x weekly DFW and 1 daily CLT and MYR

3x - KPHL - E145
3x - KDCA - E145
1x - KMYR (Seasonal) - CRJ 200
2x (Seasonal) - KCLT - E175
5x Weekly (Seasonal) - KDFW - A320


DCA is slot restricted so unless they got more slots it's not happening, MYR is probably not happening. CLT may happen soon, and DFW is probably not in the cards right now.


DCA What they can't transfer one of there other Slots over? I'm pretty sure they can run the route if there determined to.


I have heard a rumor that they are doing that this Winter (Schedule)

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:57 pm
by CV990A
grbauc wrote:

DCA What they can't transfer one of there other Slots over? I'm pretty sure they can run the route if there determined to.


Sadly, DCA-ISP is one of the routes they had to give up in the slot divestiture. They've tried to acquire more slots expressly to bring ISP back, but have been rejected so far. Without those extra slots, I highly doubt they'll bring ISP back.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:01 pm
by flyfresno
Was hoping AA would add FAT-ORD in response to UA. Oh well...

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:02 pm
by WNflyer1523
Balloonchaser wrote:
evank516 wrote:
Balloonchaser wrote:
I know that American is expanding in some way at KISP this coming year. Im thinking 3 times daily to DCA along with adding 5x weekly DFW and 1 daily CLT and MYR

3x - KPHL - E145
3x - KDCA - E145
1x - KMYR (Seasonal) - CRJ 200
2x (Seasonal) - KCLT - E175
5x Weekly (Seasonal) - KDFW - A320


DCA is slot restricted so unless they got more slots it's not happening, MYR is probably not happening. CLT may happen soon, and DFW is probably not in the cards right now.


For American, apparently ISP is the next route for DCA.
MYR is the highest Vacational Route for MYR (#1 on requested)

Now DFW is up there but I think over the next year or 2 we could see that

Why would they want to do MYR? No focus city/hub at either end. And CLT, which IMO should be added soon, would almost definitely be year-round. Who knows, maybe they can do ISP-CLT with the aircraft continuing on to Myrtle Beach.
DFW is a bit of a long shot, but if they did add it, 1x daily A319 could probably do well. (Not perfect but enough to sustain the service).

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:48 pm
by TWA1985
Does anyone know what aircraft will be operating ORD-MSO?

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:51 pm
by MAH4546
commavia wrote:
More very cool adds.

Also very happy to see MIA-BON finally added - another obvious market for AA out of the MIA hub. .


Was this mentioned elsewhere? Not in OP's post. An obvious add, though.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:51 pm
by georgiabill
I for one was hoping for AA to add MHT-ORD r MHT-MIA> Would gladly have AA E175 over UA's option.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:21 pm
by toltommy
EYW-DFW is 60nm longer than EYW-DCA. So I'm guessing there shouldn't be much in the way of performance issues.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:27 pm
by cheapgreek
toltommy wrote:
EYW-DFW is 60nm longer than EYW-DCA. So I'm guessing there shouldn't be much in the way of performance issues.


With DFW there also is the prevailing west to east headwinds. DCA south to north, not much in the way of headwinds.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:37 pm
by jplatts
BUR has no nonstop service to DFW on any airline, but Southwest does serve DAL nonstop from BUR and AA has nonstop service to PHX from BUR. Will AA ever add nonstop service to BUR from DFW?

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:03 am
by KD5MDK
Glad to see PWM, that's a flight I'm likely to use.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:18 am
by Balloonchaser
cporcelli78 wrote:
Balloonchaser wrote:
I know that American is expanding in some way at KISP this coming year. Im thinking 3 times daily to DCA along with adding 5x weekly DFW and 1 daily CLT and MYR

3x - KPHL - E145
3x - KDCA - E145
1x - KMYR (Seasonal) - CRJ 200
2x (Seasonal) - KCLT - E175
5x Weekly (Seasonal) - KDFW - A320



How do you know this? I would love it, especially a CLT conection.


AA has stated that they would love more service and rumor is that they have gotten spots for DCA-ISP and they would be the ones to go into KCLT (One of ISP’s biggest markets.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:28 am
by redwingspilot
TWA1985 wrote:
Does anyone know what aircraft will be operating ORD-MSO?


Envoy E75's

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:00 am
by toltommy
cheapgreek wrote:
toltommy wrote:
EYW-DFW is 60nm longer than EYW-DCA. So I'm guessing there shouldn't be much in the way of performance issues.


With DFW there also is the prevailing west to east headwinds. DCA south to north, not much in the way of headwinds.


I don't the runway length is going to have any effect on range in this case. DL restricts checked luggage to 1 per person. AA does not restict checked luggage, so I'm guessing there is plenty of room in the performance envelope.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:13 am
by AVLAirlineFreq
toltommy wrote:


Effective 4/3/18

JFK-PHL

Effective 5/7/18

DCA-ILM

Effective 6/8/17

DFW-FLG
DFW-EYW
DFW-MSO
MIA-SAV
ORD-MSO
ORD-PWM
ORD-SAV
ORD-ILM
ORD-BTV


Just to round out this thread about AA adds, effective 6/9/17, AA is also adding summer seasonal Saturday service on:

DFW-AVL (CR7)
DFW-MYR (E175)
DFW-ILM (E175)
ORD-MYR (CR7)
LAX-BZN (E175)
LAX-FLG (CR7)
LGA-TVC (E140)

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:28 am
by HPAEAA
SCQ83 wrote:
JFK-PHL is the most interesting.

Is AA looking at capturing AAdvantage Platinum customers in NYC flying e.g. JFK-PHL-PRG?

Would they not be better off working out an arrangement with Amtrak to take customers to PHL & run a shuttle bus to the airport? might be a bit more reliable when you factor in the ATC delays.....

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:34 am
by Cubsrule
HPAEAA wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
JFK-PHL is the most interesting.

Is AA looking at capturing AAdvantage Platinum customers in NYC flying e.g. JFK-PHL-PRG?

Would they not be better off working out an arrangement with Amtrak to take customers to PHL & run a shuttle bus to the airport? might be a bit more reliable when you factor in the ATC delays.....


JFK-PHL is four trains minimum (Airtrain to LIRR to Amtrak to SEPTA). Fun for railfans for sure but not convenient.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:46 am
by superjeff
jplatts wrote:
BUR has no nonstop service to DFW on any airline, but Southwest does serve DAL nonstop from BUR and AA has nonstop service to PHX from BUR. Will AA ever add nonstop service to BUR from DFW?



They used to fly DFW-BUR as much as 4x daily, until about 2010 or so. I suspect it was profitable, as we all know, full planes don't necessarily mean profits. Anyway, I would not be surprised to see 3 or 4 daily E175's on Envoy at some point.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:52 am
by HPAEAA
Cubsrule wrote:
HPAEAA wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
JFK-PHL is the most interesting.

Is AA looking at capturing AAdvantage Platinum customers in NYC flying e.g. JFK-PHL-PRG?

Would they not be better off working out an arrangement with Amtrak to take customers to PHL & run a shuttle bus to the airport? might be a bit more reliable when you factor in the ATC delays.....


JFK-PHL is four trains minimum (Airtrain to LIRR to Amtrak to SEPTA). Fun for railfans for sure but not convenient.


Fair enough, but was thinking that this was more to capture the local market in NYC which eliminates 2 of those steps, if they had a bus timed to meet the trains in PHL, it could be a viable option. I believe LCO had options like this from EWR PM, I think UA still uses busses to connect some small towns in the tristate from EWR (Bethlehem PA for example).

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:58 am
by ucdtim17
superjeff wrote:
jplatts wrote:
BUR has no nonstop service to DFW on any airline, but Southwest does serve DAL nonstop from BUR and AA has nonstop service to PHX from BUR. Will AA ever add nonstop service to BUR from DFW?



They used to fly DFW-BUR as much as 4x daily, until about 2010 or so. I suspect it was profitable, as we all know, full planes don't necessarily mean profits. Anyway, I would not be surprised to see 3 or 4 daily E175's on Envoy at some point.


They came back to DFW-OAK, albeit a single daily A320

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:06 am
by phluser
HPAEAA wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
JFK-PHL is the most interesting.

Is AA looking at capturing AAdvantage Platinum customers in NYC flying e.g. JFK-PHL-PRG?

Would they not be better off working out an arrangement with Amtrak to take customers to PHL & run a shuttle bus to the airport? might be a bit more reliable when you factor in the ATC delays.....


AA also has MDT-PHL, and not too long ago EWR-PHL. Harrisburg-Philly is just a $32 train ride (relatively low cost, decent frequency and subsidized by the state of PA), but AA still covers MDT-PHL. I guess it figures the once every 30 minute R1 line service, while decent for locals, isn't integrated well enough for an Amtrak to PHL connection.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:08 am
by chepos
MIA BON (once weekly) was announced internally today.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:50 am
by usflyer msp
chepos wrote:
MIA BON (once weekly) was announced internally today.


That is odd, why even bother with only 1x weekly. I would have expected at least 4x weekly, especially from Miami?

I always wondered why AA never flew to BON. This flight will ends BON's unique status as the only island in the Caribbean with flights to IAH, EWR, and ATL but none to MIA.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:51 am
by acentauri
phluser wrote:
HPAEAA wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
JFK-PHL is the most interesting.
........................
AA also has MDT-PHL, and not too long ago EWR-PHL. Harrisburg-Philly is just a $32 train ride (relatively low cost, decent frequency and subsidized by the state of PA), but AA still covers MDT-PHL. I guess it figures the once every 30 minute R1 line service, while decent for locals, isn't integrated well enough for an Amtrak to PHL connection.

Harrisburg-Philadelphia is one of Amtrak's most successful routes at 14 x Mon-Fri - it has never been subsidized. OTOH, Pittsburgh's single - Harrisburg route has been and still is subsidized by PA..

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:00 am
by airliner371
Balloonchaser wrote:
cporcelli78 wrote:
Balloonchaser wrote:
I know that American is expanding in some way at KISP this coming year. Im thinking 3 times daily to DCA along with adding 5x weekly DFW and 1 daily CLT and MYR

3x - KPHL - E145
3x - KDCA - E145
1x - KMYR (Seasonal) - CRJ 200
2x (Seasonal) - KCLT - E175
5x Weekly (Seasonal) - KDFW - A320



How do you know this? I would love it, especially a CLT conection.


AA has stated that they would love more service and rumor is that they have gotten spots for DCA-ISP and they would be the ones to go into KCLT (One of ISP’s biggest markets.

To be clear, AA has stated nothing. You are just spreading a rumor. Whether anything comes of it is one thing but no sir, AA has stated nothing.

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:23 am
by DanDun
Do we know what aircraft they will be using on JFK-PHL?

Re: AA summer 2018 adds

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:24 pm
by evank516
cheapgreek wrote:
toltommy wrote:
EYW-DFW is 60nm longer than EYW-DCA. So I'm guessing there shouldn't be much in the way of performance issues.


With DFW there also is the prevailing west to east headwinds. DCA south to north, not much in the way of headwinds.


Well, yes. However certain patterns that trigger those big troughs in the jetstream over the east coast during the winter can cause some pretty hefty headwinds flying from northeast to southwest. Example: It takes less time to fly ATL-JFK than it does to fly JFK-ATL.