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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:09 pm

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...But one thing to note is how few of the 777s have crashed, and all but one crashed for reasons that were clearly not the aircraft’s fault, and that one was because of the engines.

But that is true for practically all widebody types entering the market in the past 30 years. There is not a single 747-400 which crashed due to technical reasons, and no A340.

Anyone knows what happens with 777 ln.47, ex VIM, VP-BLI? After storage in Teruel/Spain since October it has been ferried to Addis Ababa. Has it been sold to Ethiopian for spares?
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:13 pm

na wrote:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-hnl

777 ln.1, the prototype operating for CX since 2000, hasn´t flown in a week. Reportedly scheduled for retirement next month, it probably has been withdrawn from use a few weeks earlier.

No recent flight also for ln.46, the second-to-last 772 of China Southern, scheduled for retirement this year.

Also, ln.17, very rarely flown since 2006, has been stored already sometime ago: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... e/6RJytn2o


Any realistic chance 777 #1 can be returned to Boeing and repainted in her original house colors?

Would make a great addition to the Museum of Flight's collection :)
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:19 pm

na wrote:
SEPilot wrote:
...But one thing to note is how few of the 777s have crashed, and all but one crashed for reasons that were clearly not the aircraft’s fault, and that one was because of the engines.

But that is true for practically all widebody types entering the market in the past 30 years. There is not a single 747-400 which crashed due to technical reasons, and no A340.

True. However I believe there are a lot more 777s flying than either 744s or A340s, although to be fair, both of them have been flying longer.
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:27 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
na wrote:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-hnl

777 ln.1, the prototype operating for CX since 2000, hasn´t flown in a week. Reportedly scheduled for retirement next month, it probably has been withdrawn from use a few weeks earlier.

No recent flight also for ln.46, the second-to-last 772 of China Southern, scheduled for retirement this year.

Also, ln.17, very rarely flown since 2006, has been stored already sometime ago: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... e/6RJytn2o


Any realistic chance 777 #1 can be returned to Boeing and repainted in her original house colors?

Would make a great addition to the Museum of Flight's collection :)


For sure. I hope so.
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:51 pm

na wrote:
Anyone knows what happens with 777 ln.47, ex VIM, VP-BLI? After storage in Teruel/Spain since October it has been ferried to Addis Ababa. Has it been sold to Ethiopian for spares?

Can't see this happen, as ET has exactly zero birds using Trent 892 engines and I don't think ET can use much of the avionics this bird carries. But I wouldn't be surprised if the maintenance is performed by ET in one way or another.

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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:08 pm

na wrote:
Also, ln.17, very rarely flown since 2006, has been stored already sometime ago: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... e/6RJytn2o

This airplane has always fascinated me, quite an interesting history. Hopefully the ex-G-ZZZD finds a new home soon!
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:30 am

Sooner787 wrote:
na wrote:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-hnl

777 ln.1, the prototype operating for CX since 2000, hasn´t flown in a week. Reportedly scheduled for retirement next month, it probably has been withdrawn from use a few weeks earlier.

No recent flight also for ln.46, the second-to-last 772 of China Southern, scheduled for retirement this year.

Also, ln.17, very rarely flown since 2006, has been stored already sometime ago: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... e/6RJytn2o


Any realistic chance 777 #1 can be returned to Boeing and repainted in her original house colors?

Would make a great addition to the Museum of Flight's collection :)


The Prototype 777 was sold to Cathay Pacific with the clause in the contract that it be returned to Boeing when Cathay retires it. Unless it crashes the first 777 will go to the Museum of Flight.
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:30 am

Sooner787 wrote:
na wrote:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-hnl

777 ln.1, the prototype operating for CX since 2000, hasn´t flown in a week. Reportedly scheduled for retirement next month, it probably has been withdrawn from use a few weeks earlier.

No recent flight also for ln.46, the second-to-last 772 of China Southern, scheduled for retirement this year.

Also, ln.17, very rarely flown since 2006, has been stored already sometime ago: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... e/6RJytn2o


Any realistic chance 777 #1 can be returned to Boeing and repainted in her original house colors?

Would make a great addition to the Museum of Flight's collection :)



The Prototype 777 was sold to Cathay Pacific with the clause in the contract that it be returned to Boeing when Cathay retires it. Unless it crashes the first 777 will go to the Museum of Flight.
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:24 am

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The Prototype 777 was sold to Cathay Pacific with the clause in the contract that it be returned to Boeing when Cathay retires it. Unless it crashes the first 777 will go to the Museum of Flight.





I am very glad to see that, - one can't call it great news, as many people probably has known for years (at least jfk777 :wave: ) , - but it is great news for me!

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Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:03 am

Any truth to the rumor that Emirates is looking to sell some 777Fs?
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:35 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
na wrote:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-hnl

777 ln.1, the prototype operating for CX since 2000, hasn´t flown in a week. Reportedly scheduled for retirement next month, it probably has been withdrawn from use a few weeks earlier.

No recent flight also for ln.46, the second-to-last 772 of China Southern, scheduled for retirement this year.

Also, ln.17, very rarely flown since 2006, has been stored already sometime ago: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... e/6RJytn2o


Any realistic chance 777 #1 can be returned to Boeing and repainted in her original house colors?

Would make a great addition to the Museum of Flight's collection :)



The Prototype 777 was sold to Cathay Pacific with the clause in the contract that it be returned to Boeing when Cathay retires it. Unless it crashes the first 777 will go to the Museum of Flight.


I didn't know that but it's great news nonetheless . The MOF New Pavillion is full , looks like Triple Seven 1 will need her own pavillion :)
 
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Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:51 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
na wrote:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-hnl

777 ln.1, the prototype operating for CX since 2000, hasn´t flown in a week. Reportedly scheduled for retirement next month, it probably has been withdrawn from use a few weeks earlier.

No recent flight also for ln.46, the second-to-last 772 of China Southern, scheduled for retirement this year.

Also, ln.17, very rarely flown since 2006, has been stored already sometime ago: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... e/6RJytn2o


Any realistic chance 777 #1 can be returned to Boeing and repainted in her original house colors?

Would make a great addition to the Museum of Flight's collection :)



The Prototype 777 was sold to Cathay Pacific with the clause in the contract that it be returned to Boeing when Cathay retires it. Unless it crashes the first 777 will go to the Museum of Flight.


Does it go to the museum? I thought the #1s get returned so Boeing can rip them apart and test how they have held up (or maybe it is just the 747 they show on the tour).
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:58 pm

jbs2886 wrote:
jfk777 wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:

Any realistic chance 777 #1 can be returned to Boeing and repainted in her original house colors?

Would make a great addition to the Museum of Flight's collection :)



The Prototype 777 was sold to Cathay Pacific with the clause in the contract that it be returned to Boeing when Cathay retires it. Unless it crashes the first 777 will go to the Museum of Flight.


Does it go to the museum? I thought the #1s get returned so Boeing can rip them apart and test how they have held up (or maybe it is just the 747 they show on the tour).


The MOF in Seattle has 737 #1, 747 #1 , 727 #1 , 787 #3 and hopefully soon 777 #1
if they need an early 777 frame to to destructive testing on, there are plenty of 77A's parked in the desert they could use
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:35 pm

It would be really great to see the #1 777 there in the future. And one should not forget that Boeing still uses 757 #1 for military testing. This one should be definetly preserved at the MOF in the future. All other Boeing #1 prototypes have been scrapped (717&767), although 787 #1 sits in Nagoya and currently gets it's own theme park.
 
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Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:08 pm

https://de.flightaware.com/live/flight/B2051

With B-2051 not having flown for a week it appears to me that now the last (and oldest!) China Southern 772 has been finally retired.
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:34 am

na wrote:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-hnl

777 ln.1, the prototype operating for CX since 2000, hasn´t flown in a week. Reportedly scheduled for retirement next month, it probably has been withdrawn from use a few weeks earlier.

No recent flight also for ln.46, the second-to-last 772 of China Southern, scheduled for retirement this year.

Also, ln.17, very rarely flown since 2006, has been stored already sometime ago: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... e/6RJytn2o


B-HNL has returned to service since 17MAR18.
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:43 am

SGAviation wrote:
na wrote:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-hnl

777 ln.1, the prototype operating for CX since 2000, hasn´t flown in a week. Reportedly scheduled for retirement next month, it probably has been withdrawn from use a few weeks earlier.

No recent flight also for ln.46, the second-to-last 772 of China Southern, scheduled for retirement this year.

Also, ln.17, very rarely flown since 2006, has been stored already sometime ago: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... e/6RJytn2o


B-HNL has returned to service since 17MAR18.


Thanks. This is quite surprising as it was scheduled for retirement next month. Why would they take it out of service for more than a week that short before its being wfu? Shortterm shortage of airplanes?
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:09 pm

NG263 wrote:
It would be really great to see the #1 777 there in the future. And one should not forget that Boeing still uses 757 #1 for military testing. This one should be definetly preserved at the MOF in the future. All other Boeing #1 prototypes have been scrapped (717&767), although 787 #1 sits in Nagoya and currently gets it's own theme park.


Shame on Boeing for letting the #1 787 go to Japan. Japan would have been just as happy to get #2 or #3 and it galls me that Boeing has such little respect for preserving #1’s
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:23 pm

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It would seem essentially the entire PW Vietnam Airlines 777 fleet is in the process of being scrapped at GWO, as are the ex-Air China 772s and one ex-CZ. If you do a Google Maps search for "Greenwood-Leflore Airport" and looks at the photos there are some.


On Google Maps I can only see the special-liveried Air China 777 being scrapped at GWO.

But apparently 4 ex-Vietnam-77Es (VN-A143, 144, 145 and 146) are indeed there for part-out and scrap. It has been reported they were sold to P&W for their engines.


Some photos:

VN-A143
ImageVN-A143 Pic 4 by Andy Tucker, on Flickr


VN-A144:
ImageVN-A144 Pic 2 by Andy Tucker, on Flickr



VN-A145:
ImageVN-A145 Pic 5 by Andy Tucker, on Flickr


VN-A146:
ImageVN-A146 Pic 4 by Andy Tucker, on Flickr

All of those liveries are awfully faded.

and the Air China 777 B-2052:
ImageB-2052 Pic 11 by Andy Tucker, on Flickr


Air China 777 special livery B-2059:

ImageB-2059 Pic 8 by Andy Tucker, on Flickr
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Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:51 am

zkojq wrote:
na wrote:
Goodyear wrote:
It would seem essentially the entire PW Vietnam Airlines 777 fleet is in the process of being scrapped at GWO, as are the ex-Air China 772s and one ex-CZ. If you do a Google Maps search for "Greenwood-Leflore Airport" and looks at the photos there are some.


On Google Maps I can only see the special-liveried Air China 777 being scrapped at GWO.

But apparently 4 ex-Vietnam-77Es (VN-A143, 144, 145 and 146) are indeed there for part-out and scrap. It has been reported they were sold to P&W for their engines.


Some photos:

VN-A143
ImageVN-A143 Pic 4 by Andy Tucker, on Flickr

Interesting that they painted that one in the new livery so close to being retired.
 
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Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:19 am

zkojq wrote:

All of those liveries are awfully faded.

Don't think the two new livery ones are faded too much, but agreeing on the other two.

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Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:39 am

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More 777 retirements from the past weeks:

77E Singapore 9V-SVE, ln.374 (2001)



9V-SVE just performed a BKK rotation (SQ972/975) today.
 
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Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:54 am

zkojq wrote:
Some photos
Never heard of this airplane boneyard before. So thanks for the pictures.
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:06 pm

So how do the numbers of 772ER retirement compare with 772LR? Are 773ER's being retired already?
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Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:10 pm

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So how do the numbers of 772ER retirement compare with 772LR? Are 773ER's being retired already?


As for the 77W, no permanent retirements. However, there is one ex-EK frame which was leased to bankrupt Vim Air which is stored since October. And a few more older EK 77Ws seem to have been parked at Dubai towards or at the end of their lease contract (see separate thread).
 
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Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:15 pm

zkojq wrote:
na wrote:
Goodyear wrote:
It would seem essentially the entire PW Vietnam Airlines 777 fleet is in the process of being scrapped at GWO, as are the ex-Air China 772s and one ex-CZ. If you do a Google Maps search for "Greenwood-Leflore Airport" and looks at the photos there are some.


On Google Maps I can only see the special-liveried Air China 777 being scrapped at GWO.

But apparently 4 ex-Vietnam-77Es (VN-A143, 144, 145 and 146) are indeed there for part-out and scrap. It has been reported they were sold to P&W for their engines.


Some photos:

VN-A143:
...
VN-A144:
...
VN-A145:
...
VN-A146:
...
All of those liveries are awfully faded.

and the Air China 777 B-2052:
Air China 777 special livery B-2059:


Impressive photos. 10 years ago it would have been impossible to see 13-year-old widebodies being scrapped in a row. I´m afraid, with the glut of 777s it will become a normal sight.
 
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Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:24 pm

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na wrote:
More 777 retirements from the past weeks:

77E Singapore 9V-SVE, ln.374 (2001)



9V-SVE just performed a BKK rotation (SQ972/975) today.


Unusual. With over 16 years its old by SQs standard, and it did not fly for two months. Very surprising to see it return to service.
 
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Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:25 pm

77E SU-GBR (permanently wfu 2015)

I am kind of worrying about this one.Will it retire this year ? :roll:
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Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:04 pm

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LAX772LR wrote:
na wrote:
Time to publish a list of those planes which are gone, gone soon or which are having little chance to fly again.

Sorta odd really. Most such threads on older models, seem to focus on those that are still flying....


EI-UNY (Transaero) was formerly N767UA, one of the earliest deliveries to United 5/31/95. UA parked it as far back as March 2004, after nine years in the fleet.
VT-AIR (Air India) was the first 777 deliver to US as N766UA 5/24/95. Parked by UA in July 2003 after only 8 years in service.

N777UA was the first ship to UA delivered 5/15/95 and still flies with them as far as I know. It flew the LHR-IAD official inaugural in June 1995, but I believe N766UA flew a schedule DEN-ORD a day or two before, likely for positioning.

These are all 'A' models. Interesting that UA unloaded a couple in the early 2000s. Was traffic down? Did they need some cash? I would be interested to hear details.

Those former UA 777's Were Leased airframes that the owners wanted Back or United deciced the Lease rates were too high to keep. During Bankruptcy. United had a habit of buying airplanes and selling them to lease them back as off the books assets until the airplane was fully amortized then Buying the airplanes back prior to parking them for Sale or parting out. Some Lessors have played the game in taking their aircraft back to try and get better lease rates and many times it worked. But many times it Didn't. Ikown of a few Airplanes that sat in the desert for a couple of years before they were returned to service. I know of a few airplanes that were parked and kept under United's operating certificate to make them easier and less expensive to transition to another Airline's operating certificate.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:13 am

Can anyone help me identify with certainty the 10 772s that Saudia had parked in two rows as of early December 2017 in Riyadh-RUH?

I don't have a photo but they are clearly visible on Google maps. They include HZ-AKA, in Skyteam livery, again clearly visible. As far as I can work out, Saudia had parked 12 772s in RUH at that point but I could clearly see only ten.

Many thanks for any help offered.
 
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Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:46 pm

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.m ... av4&page=4

The second-to-last 772 of China Southern has been ferried to the scrapyard.

HarryLi wrote:
77E SU-GBR (permanently wfu 2015)

I am kind of worrying about this one.Will it retire this year ? :roll:


Apparently it has been reactivated following the retirment of its sistership a few months ago.
 
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Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:47 pm

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Those former UA 777's Were Leased airframes that the owners wanted Back or United deciced the Lease rates were too high to keep. During Bankruptcy. United had a habit of buying airplanes and selling them to lease them back as off the books assets until the airplane was fully amortized then Buying the airplanes back prior to parking them for Sale or parting out. Some Lessors have played the game in taking their aircraft back to try and get better lease rates and many times it worked. But many times it Didn't. Ikown of a few Airplanes that sat in the desert for a couple of years before they were returned to service. I know of a few airplanes that were parked and kept under United's operating certificate to make them easier and less expensive to transition to another Airline's operating certificate.

Chapter 11 treats commercial aircraft (and engines) differently to most other leased items.

A great deal depends on the structure of the lease, and especially how taxation issues are addressed. Sometimes leasors want aircraft back, not because they don't want to continue to lease to the leasee, or even negotiate a new lease with the leasee, but because taking this course, will unwind the tax effective component of the original lease.

Buying aircraft, then executing a sale/leaseback is a robust transaction, if documented correctly. But at end of lease, re-purchasing, can trigger tax issues. One reason aircraft ownership involves so many legal entities, is to minimise the risk of tax clawback.

Chapter 11 was a trigger for aircraft financing, and especially the leasing industry to consolidate. Gone were the days where an operator could name an aircraft after a small town, and expect to empty it of savings to purchase a 737 or DC9.

Also, bankruptcy was a dirty word, and amazingly, many lease contracts made no reference to such an eventuality. Very different now.

But the biggest change, has been for the very largest airlines to create their own lease templates, fine-tuned with leasors, while leasing companies have their own templates for smaller and mid-size leasees. These practices have been followed more recently by the aircraft and engine OEM's.
 
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Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:39 am

na wrote:
SGAviation wrote:
na wrote:
More 777 retirements from the past weeks:

77E Singapore 9V-SVE, ln.374 (2001)



9V-SVE just performed a BKK rotation (SQ972/975) today.


Unusual. With over 16 years its old by SQs standard, and it did not fly for two months. Very surprising to see it return to service.

It might have something to with 9V-SQK which suffered a burnt landing gear incident. The SQ A333 and B772ER SV* series would be leaving as more B787-10 gets delivered. SQ* and SR* B772ER series will remain for a bit longer, but also being replaced by A359 and B787-10.
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Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:17 am

Seems like 9V-SVL is leaving.
 
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:19 am

Updates ass on 17th April 2018:
Boeing 777-2H6 28421 496 Z-RGM Zimbabwe Airways Delivery 11apr18 SZB-HRE ex 9M-MRP
Boeing 777-237LR 36304 698 A6-LRE Etihad Airways Ferried 16apr18 AUH-LETL for storage ex VT-ALE
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Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:13 pm

I've seen a lot of other 777's that have been scrapped young. Why is this?
I just love the 747, as you already may have noticed.
 
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:42 pm

na wrote:
https://de.flightaware.com/live/flight/B2051

With B-2051 not having flown for a week it appears to me that now the last (and oldest!) China Southern 772 has been finally retired.

The aircraft is still in service. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-2051
 
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Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:41 pm

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I've seen a lot of other 777's that have been scrapped young. Why is this?


The frames are more valuable as spare parts than complete, especially if they are A-model (non-ER) or high-cycle / high-hours.
 
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Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:43 pm

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I've seen a lot of other 777's that have been scrapped young. Why is this?

For the 1000th time, age of an airframe is only one factor to consider. Cycles? Airframe hours? Residual value? Economics? Engine type unfavorable?
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:22 am

https://de.flightaware.com/live/flight/HSTJH

HS-TJH has not flown for 5 weeks. Is this the third Thai 77E to be wfu and scrapped?
 
bennett123
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:58 am

You refer to the third Thai, but TS-TJF, (N176GT) has not been fully scrapped yet.
 
eamondzhang
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:30 pm

na wrote:
https://de.flightaware.com/live/flight/HSTJH

HS-TJH has not flown for 5 weeks. Is this the third Thai 77E to be wfu and scrapped?

-TJH ia a 772A not 77E.

Michael
 
Sooner787
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:41 pm

I'm wondering how many of these stored 777's will get short term work covering for the RR
powered 787's that are currently grounded?
 
bcheng925
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:02 am

When will B-HNL be retired? It's the first 777!
 
na
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:00 pm

bcheng925 wrote:
When will B-HNL be retired? It's the first 777!

Scheduled for this year, together with the other CX772s. Someone mentioned April, but then they´ve to hurry up. I guess it´ll be retired once the first EK 773s is ready to replace it.
 
na
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:36 am

EK has apparently retired another 773 and is down to just 2 frames now: A6-EMT, ln.414 hasnt flown for more than 4 weeks.
 
lutfi
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:52 am

Sooner787 wrote:
I'm wondering how many of these stored 777's will get short term work covering for the RR
powered 787's that are currently grounded?


None - no-ones going to pull an old 777 out, put it through checks, and re-register it for that.
 
jeffrey0032j
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:20 pm

lutfi wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
I'm wondering how many of these stored 777's will get short term work covering for the RR
powered 787's that are currently grounded?


None - no-ones going to pull an old 777 out, put it through checks, and re-register it for that.

Ask LATAM about it.
 
juliuswong
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:22 pm

jeffrey0032j wrote:
lutfi wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
I'm wondering how many of these stored 777's will get short term work covering for the RR
powered 787's that are currently grounded?


None - no-ones going to pull an old 777 out, put it through checks, and re-register it for that.

Ask LATAM about it.

LATAM ia taking ex SQ and VIM Airlines B772ER, those two birds went to temporary storage recently after VIM collapsed. It spent little time at desert/airport before being picked up again. They weren't in deep storage, just temp storage.
- Life is a journey, travel it well -
 
gabep
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Re: The 777 retirement and scrapping thread - 2018

Tue May 08, 2018 5:30 pm

According to Planespotters.net Alitalia 777-200ER EI-ISD has been parked and stored. Flightradar24 indicates it last flight was AZ 673 on 11FEB18. Is this temporary short term storage pending Alitalia's fate, or has the aircraft been permanently WFU?

Planspotters.net Alitalia fleet

Flightrdar24 EI-ISD

Regards,

Gabep

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