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Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:04 pm

After a year of turmoil at Horizon Air, the regional carrier that’s part of Alaska Air Group, the airline’s Chief Executive Dave Campbell announced that he’s stepping down. Campbell conveyed the news internally via an email to employees Monday.

“As the year comes to a close, I have found myself at a crossroads,” Campbell wrote. “For personal reasons, I have decided to step down from my role with Horizon effective January 5, opening the door for a new chapter for the airline.”


Horizon Air CEO Campbell stepping down after troubled year
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/b ... bled-year/

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Campbell only took the job in May 2016. AAG had already appointed some new leadership including a new VP of Ops at Horizon earlier this fall, so this clears the way for a new CEO to come in as well and provide largely a new leadership slate.
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:30 pm

The meltdown QX had this year was one of the largest in the history of regional airlines.

Although I can't really blame him for it (Horizon's failure to attract pilots is a structural problem) someone had to be the scapegoat. Hopefully AAG respects the pilots more going forward.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:51 pm

I’d say sell off Horizon Air to Skywest and consolidate all AS regional operations under Skywest if Horizon is that big of a mess.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:58 pm

Would SkyWest maintain the QX brand a la EV if they were to be acquired?
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:26 pm

I'm confused how the "Horizon debacle" is really most of Horizon's fault? Horizon has been trying, for years, to operate as efficiently as possible, and in the end, its Alaska and their shareholders who judge Horizon. Usually Horizon looks like it's losing money for the sake of Alaska's numbers. Horizon once had an amazing reputation in the pacific northwest both for customer service and as an employer. Now, it seems, Alaska has turned Horizon into your typical everyday "express" regional carrier with no real identity or great former brand traits... That may be cheaper for AAG, but in the end they've ruined a great asset and brand.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:53 pm

ADrum23 wrote:
I’d say sell off Horizon Air to Skywest and consolidate all AS regional operations under Skywest if Horizon is that big of a mess.


Skywest is some of the most expensive regional lift in the industry. Horizon is a mess because AS has disrespected it for decades.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:00 pm

username21 wrote:
Would SkyWest maintain the QX brand a la EV if they were to be acquired?

No, there is no need to. It would just be Alaska operated by SkyWest as it is today.
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:16 pm

ADrum23 wrote:
I’d say sell off Horizon Air to Skywest and consolidate all AS regional operations under Skywest if Horizon is that big of a mess.


Yeah because they've done so well with managing ExpressJet :roll:
 
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Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:22 pm

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roadpilot wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
I’d say sell off Horizon Air to Skywest and consolidate all AS regional operations under Skywest if Horizon is that big of a mess.


Yeah because they've done so well with managing ExpressJet :roll:

Technically they have. They did want they wanted to with it....
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:28 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
I’d say sell off Horizon Air to Skywest and consolidate all AS regional operations under Skywest if Horizon is that big of a mess.


Skywest is some of the most expensive regional lift in the industry. Horizon is a mess because AS has disrespected it for decades.


Horizon is actually more expensive than SkyWest even with SkyWest being on the high end. Horizon has cost issues across the board which they are working on and starting to see positive movement on cost.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:28 pm

Dave came on shortly after I started at QX and he struck me as a genuine guy. Too bad he’s getting the boot (whether by his choice or not), it wasn’t entirely his fault that QX performed dreadfully this past year. I wish him luck, though.
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:45 pm

Does anyone know who will take his place? I believe Dunkerley is set to leave HA in January as well...
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:05 pm

I am hopeful that new leadership will help bring QX back to stability. This airline is a gem, and I would love to see it continue to be my go to for short trips around the PNW.
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:38 am

I remember the shock when Horizon went from feeding United in SEA to being bought by Alaska Air.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:30 am

durangomac wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
I’d say sell off Horizon Air to Skywest and consolidate all AS regional operations under Skywest if Horizon is that big of a mess.


Skywest is some of the most expensive regional lift in the industry. Horizon is a mess because AS has disrespected it for decades.


Horizon is actually more expensive than SkyWest even with SkyWest being on the high end. Horizon has cost issues across the board which they are working on and starting to see positive movement on cost.


Horizon is not more expensive than Skywest.

Skywest's lift with AS is damn expensive. They merely use it to create whip-saw pressure against QX. AA/Eagle demonstrated that costs get out of control if you have too much centralized lift.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:00 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
durangomac wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:

Skywest is some of the most expensive regional lift in the industry. Horizon is a mess because AS has disrespected it for decades.


Horizon is actually more expensive than SkyWest even with SkyWest being on the high end. Horizon has cost issues across the board which they are working on and starting to see positive movement on cost.


Horizon is not more expensive than Skywest.

Skywest's lift with AS is damn expensive. They merely use it to create whip-saw pressure against QX. AA/Eagle demonstrated that costs get out of control if you have too much centralized lift.


I'll point out that AAG executives including Dave have stated that Horizon is more expensive than SkyWest on multiple occasions. When you look at cost per block hour you see that Horizon is more expensive.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:14 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
durangomac wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:

Skywest is some of the most expensive regional lift in the industry. Horizon is a mess because AS has disrespected it for decades.


Horizon is actually more expensive than SkyWest even with SkyWest being on the high end. Horizon has cost issues across the board which they are working on and starting to see positive movement on cost.


Horizon is not more expensive than Skywest.

Skywest's lift with AS is damn expensive. They merely use it to create whip-saw pressure against QX. AA/Eagle demonstrated that costs get out of control if you have too much centralized lift.


Expensive or not, if you don't have the lift, it doesn't matter what the cost is. And as DL and AA are demonstrating, they're quickly centralizing lift again to carriers they own and can control.
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:57 pm

william wrote:
I remember the shock when Horizon went from feeding United in SEA to being bought by Alaska Air.


I can remember Horizon from the beginning, I remember Cascade CZ & Air Oregon JT. I know Horizon has had a varied fleet of props & jets throughout it's history. I can vaguely remember the DC-9's, but the F-27 & F-28's stick out in my head & their short lived Dornier aircraft were my favorite prop that they have flown. The United tie in, locked in UA as the big wheel in both SEA & PDX, my how times have changed since those days.
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:27 pm

QX had DC-9's? I thought so...but (1) I have not seen any pics, and (2) many have said they never existed. But I thought at one time QX flew the DC-9 to SMF from SEA. I never flew on the original QX F-28-1000's, but I flew on several of the ex-US F-28-4000's.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:57 pm

wedgetail737 wrote:
QX had DC-9's? I thought so...but (1) I have not seen any pics, and (2) many have said they never existed. But I thought at one time QX flew the DC-9 to SMF from SEA. I never flew on the original QX F-28-1000's, but I flew on several of the ex-US F-28-4000's.

They leased one prior to their Fokkers coming in. Or at least, that's what news reports from the era reports they were going to. Initial services were announced as PSC-SEA and PSC-BOI.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:00 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
I’d say sell off Horizon Air to Skywest and consolidate all AS regional operations under Skywest if Horizon is that big of a mess.


Skywest is some of the most expensive regional lift in the industry. Horizon is a mess because AS has disrespected it for decades.

This isn't true at all. One of the reasons OO keeps growing at AS is because they are cheaper and they have better OTP then AS mainline.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:16 pm

32andBelow wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
I’d say sell off Horizon Air to Skywest and consolidate all AS regional operations under Skywest if Horizon is that big of a mess.


Skywest is some of the most expensive regional lift in the industry. Horizon is a mess because AS has disrespected it for decades.

This isn't true at all. One of the reasons OO keeps growing at AS is because they are cheaper and they have better OTP then AS mainline.


It is stone cold true.

OO wasn't even in the picture until QX couldn't staff the 175's.

You can join the ranks of the other clueless dorks on this website.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:25 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:

Skywest is some of the most expensive regional lift in the industry. Horizon is a mess because AS has disrespected it for decades.

This isn't true at all. One of the reasons OO keeps growing at AS is because they are cheaper and they have better OTP then AS mainline.


It is stone cold true.

OO wasn't even in the picture until QX couldn't staff the 175's.

You can join the ranks of the other clueless dorks on this website.

What are you talking about OO was flying 175s for AS before Horizon even ordered them.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:30 pm

wedgetail737 wrote:
QX had DC-9's? I thought so...but (1) I have not seen any pics, and (2) many have said they never existed. But I thought at one time QX flew the DC-9 to SMF from SEA. I never flew on the original QX F-28-1000's, but I flew on several of the ex-US F-28-4000's.


I had forgotten about the Horizon DC-9s.

Just out of curiosity, I pulled out a Horizon Air timetable dated September 9, 1984.

It looks like, during that time, all of the DC-9 flying could have been operated by a single aircraft:

QX 11 Boise-Portland 7:25am-7:35am
QX 12 Portland-Boise 8:00am- 10:05am
QX 9 Boise-Seattle 12:00pm-12:20pm
QX 14 Seattle-Pasco 12:55pm-1:35pm
QX 15 Pasco-Seattle 2:20pm-3:00pm
QX 16 Seattle-Boise 5:25pm-5:30pm
QX 17 Boise-Portland 5:55pm-6:00pm
QX 17 Portland-Seattle 6:45pm-7:25pm
QX 18 Seattle-Pasco 8:30pm-9:10pm
QX 18 Pasco-Boise 9:30pm-11:20pm
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:30 pm

Interesting, they are not replacing the Horizon CEO with another person, but instead the board added responsability for QX to current AS CEO Brad Tilden effective December 28th.

https://login.flightglobal.com/?redirec ... board=true
https://www.reuters.com/article/brief-a ... SFWN1OY0RJ
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:45 pm

LAXintl wrote:
Interesting, they are not replacing the Horizon CEO with another person, but instead the board added responsability for QX to current AS CEO Brad Tilden effective December 28th.

https://login.flightglobal.com/?redirec ... board=true
https://www.reuters.com/article/brief-a ... SFWN1OY0RJ


Seems like a lot of work for Brad given from all perceptions he likes to be fully involved with whatever is going on.
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:52 pm

LAXintl wrote:
Interesting, they are not replacing the Horizon CEO with another person, but instead the board added responsability for QX to current AS CEO Brad Tilden effective December 28th.

https://login.flightglobal.com/?redirec ... board=true
https://www.reuters.com/article/brief-a ... SFWN1OY0RJ

If I were shaping the leadership at AS, I'd keep Brad as CEO of Alaska and have 2 additional people, one president of Alaska, and one president of Horizon. That way Brad makes the final call for the whole corporation, but each brand has it's own leader too.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:50 pm

They had his position posted internally until some time this week. The internal memo said they were temporarily having those that reported to DC report to BT.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:03 pm

Looks like they board did not want of leave the position open for too long given how they are still recovering from the Horizon meltdown. The 8-K has the wording until a successor maybe be named so this might be a stopgap measure until they find someone permanent.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:52 pm

32andBelow wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
This isn't true at all. One of the reasons OO keeps growing at AS is because they are cheaper and they have better OTP then AS mainline.


It is stone cold true.

OO wasn't even in the picture until QX couldn't staff the 175's.

You can join the ranks of the other clueless dorks on this website.

What are you talking about OO was flying 175s for AS before Horizon even ordered them.


And before that OO was flying CR7's for AS many years before the E-175's came to be.

topbanana wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
QX had DC-9's? I thought so...but (1) I have not seen any pics, and (2) many have said they never existed. But I thought at one time QX flew the DC-9 to SMF from SEA. I never flew on the original QX F-28-1000's, but I flew on several of the ex-US F-28-4000's.


I had forgotten about the Horizon DC-9s.

Just out of curiosity, I pulled out a Horizon Air timetable dated September 9, 1984.

It looks like, during that time, all of the DC-9 flying could have been operated by a single aircraft:

QX 11 Boise-Portland 7:25am-7:35am
QX 12 Portland-Boise 8:00am- 10:05am
QX 9 Boise-Seattle 12:00pm-12:20pm
QX 14 Seattle-Pasco 12:55pm-1:35pm
QX 15 Pasco-Seattle 2:20pm-3:00pm
QX 16 Seattle-Boise 5:25pm-5:30pm
QX 17 Boise-Portland 5:55pm-6:00pm
QX 17 Portland-Seattle 6:45pm-7:25pm
QX 18 Seattle-Pasco 8:30pm-9:10pm
QX 18 Pasco-Boise 9:30pm-11:20pm


I am sure that the DC-9 & I think there was only one, was brought in as a gap between when SMF was announced & scheduled & when the first F-28-1000's were obtained. So I think it ran SEA/PDX-SMF & once the F-28's came, but the short lease term was not completed yet, the DC-9 was used to provide lift on trunk routes at peak times. I bet that last segment of the day had almost zero passengers, but was needed to get the plane into BOI for it's busy AM departure to PDX. I flew it to SEA from PDX in 1984.
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:56 pm

Another change in plans. QX will get a separate CEO.

Gary Beck former AS VP Flt ops, and leader of AS/VX integration team will become QX new CEO.
Joining him is Constance von Muehlen former AS director of airframe maintenance as COO at QX.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 80941.html
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:38 am

The DC-9-10 was acquired quickly to compete with Cascade and it's fleet of BAC-1-11's - before the F-28's could arrive. It was just 1 DC9.

RWA380 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:

It is stone cold true.

OO wasn't even in the picture until QX couldn't staff the 175's.

You can join the ranks of the other clueless dorks on this website.

What are you talking about OO was flying 175s for AS before Horizon even ordered them.


And before that OO was flying CR7's for AS many years before the E-175's came to be.

topbanana wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
QX had DC-9's? I thought so...but (1) I have not seen any pics, and (2) many have said they never existed. But I thought at one time QX flew the DC-9 to SMF from SEA. I never flew on the original QX F-28-1000's, but I flew on several of the ex-US F-28-4000's.


I had forgotten about the Horizon DC-9s.

Just out of curiosity, I pulled out a Horizon Air timetable dated September 9, 1984.

It looks like, during that time, all of the DC-9 flying could have been operated by a single aircraft:

QX 11 Boise-Portland 7:25am-7:35am
QX 12 Portland-Boise 8:00am- 10:05am
QX 9 Boise-Seattle 12:00pm-12:20pm
QX 14 Seattle-Pasco 12:55pm-1:35pm
QX 15 Pasco-Seattle 2:20pm-3:00pm
QX 16 Seattle-Boise 5:25pm-5:30pm
QX 17 Boise-Portland 5:55pm-6:00pm
QX 17 Portland-Seattle 6:45pm-7:25pm
QX 18 Seattle-Pasco 8:30pm-9:10pm
QX 18 Pasco-Boise 9:30pm-11:20pm


I am sure that the DC-9 & I think there was only one, was brought in as a gap between when SMF was announced & scheduled & when the first F-28-1000's were obtained. So I think it ran SEA/PDX-SMF & once the F-28's came, but the short lease term was not completed yet, the DC-9 was used to provide lift on trunk routes at peak times. I bet that last segment of the day had almost zero passengers, but was needed to get the plane into BOI for it's busy AM departure to PDX. I flew it to SEA from PDX in 1984.
 
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:29 am

n7371f wrote:
The DC-9-10 was acquired quickly to compete with Cascade and it's fleet of BAC-1-11's - before the F-28's could arrive. It was just 1 DC9.

RWA380 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
What are you talking about OO was flying 175s for AS before Horizon even ordered them.


And before that OO was flying CR7's for AS many years before the E-175's came to be.

topbanana wrote:

I had forgotten about the Horizon DC-9s.

Just out of curiosity, I pulled out a Horizon Air timetable dated September 9, 1984.

It looks like, during that time, all of the DC-9 flying could have been operated by a single aircraft:

QX 11 Boise-Portland 7:25am-7:35am
QX 12 Portland-Boise 8:00am- 10:05am
QX 9 Boise-Seattle 12:00pm-12:20pm
QX 14 Seattle-Pasco 12:55pm-1:35pm
QX 15 Pasco-Seattle 2:20pm-3:00pm
QX 16 Seattle-Boise 5:25pm-5:30pm
QX 17 Boise-Portland 5:55pm-6:00pm
QX 17 Portland-Seattle 6:45pm-7:25pm
QX 18 Seattle-Pasco 8:30pm-9:10pm
QX 18 Pasco-Boise 9:30pm-11:20pm


I am sure that the DC-9 & I think there was only one, was brought in as a gap between when SMF was announced & scheduled & when the first F-28-1000's were obtained. So I think it ran SEA/PDX-SMF & once the F-28's came, but the short lease term was not completed yet, the DC-9 was used to provide lift on trunk routes at peak times. I bet that last segment of the day had almost zero passengers, but was needed to get the plane into BOI for it's busy AM departure to PDX. I flew it to SEA from PDX in 1984.


Thanks for confirming that info, do you happen to know how long the lease term was & who they obtained it from, It had a Horizon sticker on the side, but I remember it being white. & it was a 10 series as you indicated.
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Re: Horizon Air CEO stepping down after troubled year

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:37 am

LAXintl wrote:
Interesting, they are not replacing the Horizon CEO with another person, but instead the board added responsability for QX to current AS CEO Brad Tilden effective December 28th.

https://login.flightglobal.com/?redirec ... board=true
https://www.reuters.com/article/brief-a ... SFWN1OY0RJ


Gary Beck is the new CEO & Constance von Muehlen is the new COO, good news for QX as it moves forward from it's recent issues.

https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2018-01- ... ng-Officer
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