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Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:52 am

Whats IAH's plan for 787 in the future? IAH 787 going to downsize to just one flight is SYD and no more other city to fly. In the past IAH had many 787 to fly to LAX, IAD, SFO, DEN, LHR, FRA, NRT, GIG, and others. Now next month Janurary will go just one is Sydney and other widebodies 777-200 and 767-300 is still flying.

SFO, LAX, DEN and IAD get more 787 while IAH down to one 787 for 2018. What happen to IAH?
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:03 am

I presume they are going to rotate the 787 aircraft through SYD coming in from either LAX or SFO?
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:05 am

Other than hub to hub repositioning, which was a requirement when the 787's were all flown by legacy CO crews and flight attendants, SYD will for the foreseeable future be the focal point of 787 flying, but they also use the plane to LHR. UA operated the 787-9 to EZE and SCL as well, but UA's strategy with the 787 is TPAC and TATL only where there is a need to rotate a 787 on a route that requires 2 planes (i.e. SFO-ZRH, SFO-IAD). The rest of United does ex-IAH can be done with the 777-200ER, 767-300ER, and if there is a need for higher capacity, they can put a 77W as needed.
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:47 am

Melb94 wrote:
I presume they are going to rotate the 787 aircraft through SYD coming in from either LAX or SFO?


Yes I'm sure they will rotate either from LAX or SFO. Sydney will get 3 787-9 at same time.
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:01 am

There will be a LAX-IAH rotation 5-days a week to balance cockpit crew duty hours.
As far as aircraft rotations, that can be accomplished at SYD as there will be 3 789s on the ground simultaneously.
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:03 am

FWIW UA 980 IAD - DEN is changing from a 739 to 788, not sure when but I've booked in March. This is actually a pretty popular flight to link DEN customers with afternoon arrivals at IAD from Europe, so this change might be as simple as adding needed capacity.
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:38 am

980 is a 788 now
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:05 am

LAXintl wrote:
There will be a LAX-IAH rotation 5-days a week to balance cockpit crew duty hours.
As far as aircraft rotations, that can be accomplished at SYD as there will be 3 789s on the ground simultaneously.


I checked the ua.com for Januray 2018 after start IAH to SYD and its showing one 787-9 for IAH to LAX and back. From LAX to IAH is morning flight from oversea either australia or asia and for IAH to LAX same plane to australia or asia at night.
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:34 pm

Curious to see if there are any other plans for the 787 fleet at IAH since they reopened the crew base for it. Houston Business Journal posted an article about United expanding Euro services at IAH however I not have a subscription. Does anybody here have a subscription or insight into the basis of this article?

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/new ... tween.html
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:48 pm

AMERICAN757 wrote:
Curious to see if there are any other plans for the 787 fleet at IAH since they reopened the crew base for it. Houston Business Journal posted an article about United expanding Euro services at IAH however I not have a subscription. Does anybody here have a subscription or insight into the basis of this article?

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/new ... tween.html


There's nothing of note in that article. The only relevant points are that they might re-launch Munich and that they're waiting on approval to start daily flights to Havana. They quoted someone from United that said that Europe flights from IAH are all tied to business travel rather than connections which isn't groundbreaking news.
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:57 pm

Restart? Doesn’t UA already fly IAH-MUC?
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:20 pm

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Restart? Doesn’t UA already fly IAH-MUC?

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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:31 pm

I honestly think IAH-BRU or IAH-ZRH is a better fit than IAH-MUC. Reason being is that IAH-MUC is a small local market like the other two, but MUC doesnt really offer any destinations that FRA doesnt. ZRH and especially BRU have a bunch of destinations than FRA and MUC dont have.
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:30 pm

aircountry wrote:
Whats IAH's plan for 787 in the future? IAH 787 going to downsize to just one flight is SYD and no more other city to fly. In the past IAH had many 787 to fly to LAX, IAD, SFO, DEN, LHR, FRA, NRT, GIG, and others. Now next month Janurary will go just one is Sydney and other widebodies 777-200 and 767-300 is still flying.

SFO, LAX, DEN and IAD get more 787 while IAH down to one 787 for 2018. What happen to IAH?


Since last winter, all deep South American flying out of IAH has been done by 763's with the exception of EZE, which is usually a 77E, though I think there have been random 77W subs on this route. Munoz also had scheduling re-align the European flights out of EWR and IAD to be mainly 767's and 787's, respectively, to help with crew positioning. Now that SFO has a 787 crew base, there's little need to funnel the 787 fleet through IAH.
If you want to fly a 787 out of Houston, KLM will end their 74M operations sometime this Spring, and the IAH-AMS flight will then be operated by a 789. I think that BA's late LHR flight this summer will also be operated by a 789, though I'm not certain of this.
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:21 pm

I love the 767 but it would great to see more 787 service in Houston.

Has United seen any big benefit to their new bank structure at IAH and will it fuel any more growth in 2018+ in terms of passengers and flights?
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:18 pm

How about the 78-10?

I sort of presume there will be many at EWR? Especially if they take more than 14!
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:58 pm

Yeah, but MUC probably helps with UA and LH get passengers across to other destinations such as India, Japan, China, Middle East, Europe, and etc, also make there market with more seats to more destination. They can take out KL, AF, BA, and other airlines with this strategy.
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:48 pm

LH658 wrote:
Yeah, but MUC probably helps with UA and LH get passengers across to other destinations such as India, Japan, China, Middle East, Europe, and etc, also make there market with more seats to more destination. They can take out KL, AF, BA, and other airlines with this strategy.

They can do the same with ZRH if they're aiming more for the ME and Asia. BRU is better for Africa and probably almost on par with ZRH for EU destinations.
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:05 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
LH658 wrote:
Yeah, but MUC probably helps with UA and LH get passengers across to other destinations such as India, Japan, China, Middle East, Europe, and etc, also make there market with more seats to more destination. They can take out KL, AF, BA, and other airlines with this strategy.

They can do the same with ZRH if they're aiming more for the ME and Asia. BRU is better for Africa and probably almost on par with ZRH for EU destinations.



Point is to have a bigger market share, and MUC does the job right. 2 FRA flights plus 1 MUC, beats BA, AF, and KL traffic. LH doesn't want to slip that star market away. If Houston, was a finance city of maybe was important city for organizations, and governments etc we could see possible flights to ZRH or BRU. Most of African base population in Houston is from Egypt, Nigeria, Ghana, Somalia, Sudan, Ethiopia, South Africa, and etc. Most of money traffic goes to Nigeria, South Africa, Algeria, Angola, Ghana, SSG, and etc. Which IAH covers well through FRA and MUC. LH has advantage due to location. BRU is very weak among European connections.
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:23 pm

LH658 wrote:
TWA772LR wrote:
LH658 wrote:
Yeah, but MUC probably helps with UA and LH get passengers across to other destinations such as India, Japan, China, Middle East, Europe, and etc, also make there market with more seats to more destination. They can take out KL, AF, BA, and other airlines with this strategy.

They can do the same with ZRH if they're aiming more for the ME and Asia. BRU is better for Africa and probably almost on par with ZRH for EU destinations.



Point is to have a bigger market share, and MUC does the job right. 2 FRA flights plus 1 MUC, beats BA, AF, and KL traffic. LH doesn't want to slip that star market away. If Houston, was a finance city of maybe was important city for organizations, and governments etc we could see possible flights to ZRH or BRU. Most of African base population in Houston is from Egypt, Nigeria, Ghana, Somalia, Sudan, Ethiopia, South Africa, and etc. Most of money traffic goes to Nigeria, South Africa, Algeria, Angola, Ghana, SSG, and etc. Which IAH covers well through FRA and MUC. LH has advantage due to location. BRU is very weak among European connections.

I see what you're getting at but SN and LX are still in the LH group so it would still keep the marketshare. Switzerland is huge in pharmaceuticals and Houston is too with the Texas Medical Center being a huge economic booster for SE Texas and the Gulf region.
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:32 pm

Now we also have TK, which also has big share in Europe and in Africa flying places like Douala and Monrovia etc. LX would be okay, I would prefer ZRH over MUC, though I feel like MUC is tad better choice for IAH also now BMW has Houston facility as well. Lot of German automakers travel to Mexico as well as Volkswagen AG has huge operation there, and also in Houston as well.
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:18 am

I remembered someone posted about UA 787-8 will return to LOS from IAH after UA pulled out due LOS airport lack of security until they improve first then return later. For now I didnt hear anything from UA saying will return to LOS. Does anyone hear it or comfirm or anything?
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:37 am

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aircountry wrote:
Whats IAH's plan for 787 in the future? IAH 787 going to downsize to just one flight is SYD and no more other city to fly. In the past IAH had many 787 to fly to LAX, IAD, SFO, DEN, LHR, FRA, NRT, GIG, and others. Now next month Janurary will go just one is Sydney and other widebodies 777-200 and 767-300 is still flying.

SFO, LAX, DEN and IAD get more 787 while IAH down to one 787 for 2018. What happen to IAH?


Since last winter, all deep South American flying out of IAH has been done by 763's with the exception of EZE, which is usually a 77E, though I think there have been random 77W subs on this route. Munoz also had scheduling re-align the European flights out of EWR and IAD to be mainly 767's and 787's, respectively, to help with crew positioning. Now that SFO has a 787 crew base, there's little need to funnel the 787 fleet through IAH.
If you want to fly a 787 out of Houston, KLM will end their 74M operations sometime this Spring, and the IAH-AMS flight will then be operated by a 789. I think that BA's late LHR flight this summer will also be operated by a 789, though I'm not certain of this.


Air China will bring 787-9 for PEK-IAH-PTY and back on same route for twice a week will begin in march 2018. I dont know for other days a week will remain 777-300ER for PEK-IAH only.
 
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Re: Whats IAH's future plan for UA 787?

Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:26 am

Will they have 5th freedom on IAH-PTY?
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