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Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:19 pm

One of the next Boeing 787-9's for Norwegian will have Charles Lindbergh on the tail ...
 
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Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:54 pm

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gosimeon wrote:
Hi Nordic thread :)

I was in Finland over the weekend and flew to Tampere from Dublin via Helsinki. It was a lovely experience with Finnair, a very nice airline.

My friends and I were wondering about Tampere Airport. It has less than 10 short haul flights a day, but two terminals. One terminal seems to be just used by Ryanair, with maybe a flight per day?

Is there any reason for this? It seemed odd!


The passenger numbers in TMP has dropped more than 2/3 in ten years from 700K to 200K, mainly because Ryanair cut their services. The Tampere region has some 330K people but HEL is relatively close (170km) and at the same time TMP is too far/hard to reach from the capital region to be it's secondary airport.

Pity you had such a stormy midsummer weekend in Finland, the summer started exceptionally sunny ;)


Thanks for this context, and also for your info ilari. It could make sense to just combine them all into one terminal though? Hopefully Tampere experiences some passenger growth in the coming years, it's a beautiful part of the world.

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I have to admit I am happy that SK is moving their HKG route to CPH. ARN is a pretty horrific transfer experience - narrow terminals, long walks, horrendous queues at passport control and security and separate terminals for domestic and international flights.


Couldn't agree more as a regular flyer to Arlanda. They seem to have afforded very little space to security, so it's not even a case of being understaffed, but nowhere to add more.
 
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Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:11 pm

The Norwegian state is selling all of its shares in SAS: https://finalcall.travel/no/breaking-ne ... jer-i-sas/

Any industry buyers? LH? IAG?
 
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Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:40 pm

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The Norwegian state is selling all of its shares in SAS: https://finalcall.travel/no/breaking-ne ... jer-i-sas/

Any industry buyers? LH? IAG?


Already a thread on this here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1397567
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:36 am

Norwegian opens again new routes from HEL to Tel Aviv and Gdansk. Tel Aviv will be served once a week as of 3 Nov 2018 and Gdansk 2x weekly as of 29 Oct 2018. This year, DY/D8 has already opened new routes to from HEL to Krakow and Agadir will be opened on 3 Nov 2018.

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Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:51 am

Norwegian is restarting OSL-DXB. 5x weekly from October 28th
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:48 pm

Sparrow Aviation of former Arlanda-Kristianstad fame until last week are to enter bankruptcy
 
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:18 am

This winter Norwegian will be increasing BEG from OSL from 2 to 3 weekly. ARN becomes year-round with one weekly flight.
 
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Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:36 pm

This is gonna go down well with the ALPA folks on this forum …

Today, Norwegian's chief executive officer Bjørn Kjos was awarded the Ambassador's Award by US Ambassador to Norway, Kenneth J. Braithwaite. Kjos received the award for Norwegian's contribution to building relationships between the United States and Norway. U.S. Embassy Oslo http://ms.spr.ly/6185r48Av

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Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:31 am

Norwegian will be flying 2x weekly the coming winter from OSL, CPH and ARN to Krabi
 
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:46 pm

Over the weekend JAL celebrated five years of operations at HEL, with the obligatory Moomin of course ...

Time has quite literally flown, in the beginning there were quite a few who were a bit skeptical about how long this would last.

https://www.finavia.fi/en/newsroom/2018 ... nki-vantaa

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Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:54 pm

Nami wrote:
Over the weekend JAL celebrated five years of operations at HEL, with the obligatory Moomin of course ...

Time has quite literally flown, in the beginning there were quite a few who were a bit skeptical about how long this would last.

https://www.finavia.fi/en/newsroom/2018 ... nki-vantaa

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Apparently they have been doing well.I wonder if CX would ever cooperate same way with AY that JL does, or would AY rather keep all HKG slots to themselves.
 
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:46 pm

ilari wrote:
Nami wrote:
Over the weekend JAL celebrated five years of operations at HEL, with the obligatory Moomin of course ...

Time has quite literally flown, in the beginning there were quite a few who were a bit skeptical about how long this would last.

https://www.finavia.fi/en/newsroom/2018 ... nki-vantaa

[...]

Apparently they have been doing well.I wonder if CX would ever cooperate same way with AY that JL does, or would AY rather keep all HKG slots to themselves.

Yeah, according to Finavia "the passenger volume of the daily flight has developed positively during the past five years." The growth has probably been rather slow as the most significant change was the swap of the equipment from Boeing 787-8 to 787-9. Next, JAL could deploy A350 on the route but probably not increase flights. I would love to see CX at HEL but I don't see that happening any time soon, unfortunately. Also I wonder why AY hasn't formed a deeper partnership with CX such as a joint venture. Are there some restrictions in the air traffic agreement between Finland and Hong Kong disabling the deeper partnership? AY will fly 12x weekly to HKG next winter and may also do so in S19. AY could give for example 3 to 5 slots for CX and then AY could fly 7-9x weekly to HKG and CX 3-5x weekly to HEL.
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Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:32 am

LN-RRZ is leaving the SAS fleet today, so now their down to 9 737-600s in their fleet

Boeing 737 -683 28295 149 LN-RRZ SAS ferried 03jul18 OSL-LDE for part-out & scrap ex SE-DNP
 
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:24 pm

June 2018 numbers for ARN:

Domestic: 416,216 (-8.4%)
International: 2,144,227 (+2.7%)
Total: 2,560,443 (+0.7%)
 
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:23 pm

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June 2018 numbers for ARN:

Domestic: 416,216 (-8.4%)
International: 2,144,227 (+2.7%)
Total: 2,560,443 (+0.7%)


Assume the Nexjet bankruptcy and air tax is dragging down the numbers here?
 
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:21 pm

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LN-RRZ is leaving the SAS fleet today, so now their down to 9 737-600s in their fleet

Boeing 737 -683 28295 149 LN-RRZ SAS ferried 03jul18 OSL-LDE for part-out & scrap ex SE-DNP


The end is near. Is it announced yet when the last will retire?
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:34 pm

Oykie wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
LN-RRZ is leaving the SAS fleet today, so now their down to 9 737-600s in their fleet

Boeing 737 -683 28295 149 LN-RRZ SAS ferried 03jul18 OSL-LDE for part-out & scrap ex SE-DNP


The end is near. Is it announced yet when the last will retire?


In October, IIRC. Booked myself a pair on OSL-TRD-OSL in September as a last attempt to catch them after 3 failed attempts, fingers crossed it works. :crossfingers:
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Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:02 am

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Someone83 wrote:
LN-RRZ is leaving the SAS fleet today, so now their down to 9 737-600s in their fleet



The end is near. Is it announced yet when the last will retire?


In October, IIRC. Booked myself a pair on OSL-TRD-OSL in September as a last attempt to catch them after 3 failed attempts, fingers crossed it works. :crossfingers:


They will have some -600s into 2019 as well. Probably 6 aircraft as 3 more is scheduled to leave later this year
 
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Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:43 am

Widerøe is increasing their codeshare network, this time with Air France on the following routes:

BGO: ABZ, FLO, MOL, BOO, KRS, KSU
OSL: BNN, FLO, GOT, HOV
TRF: CPH, BGO
KRS: CPH
 
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Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:56 am

Yesterday (on 4 July 2018), the air traffic statistics were released on Eurostat meaning that the route statistics for European airports are available for 2017.

So, here are some notable and interesting statistics for HEL and CPH:

Europe - HEL
CPH: 877,534 (+11.2% / +90,000 passengers)
AMS: 665,318 (+18.6% / +110,000 passengers)
OSL: 505,538 (+24.5% / +100,000 passengers)
TXL: 495,488 (+9.3% / +50,000 passengers, despite the bankruptcy of Air Berlin)
KEF: 229,931 (+23.3% / +50,000 passengers)
SVO: 196,341 (+34.3% / +50,000 passengers)

Intercontinental - HEL
NRT: 348,259 (+24.5% / +70,000 passengers)
BKK: 301,097 (+15.2% / +40,000 passengers)
PVG: 184,886 (+13.5% / +20,000 passengers)
SIN: 179,784 (+24.4% / +35,000 passengers))
PEK: 173,884 (+19.0% / +28,000 passengers)

The passenger number increased on all routes in the Top 13.

For the very first time, there is an intercontinental route from HEL with over 300,000 passengers: NRT and BKK. As far as I know, this is also the first time that the busiest intercontinental route from HEL has been busier than one from ARN (ARN-NYC: 329,528 passengers).

Statistics for HEL (see also Wikipedia)



Intercontinental - CPH
NYC: 364,164 (-4.8%)
DXB: 350,095 (+9.6%)
YYZ: 156,744 (+20.9%)

The passenger number increased on routes to DXB, BKK, YYZ, NRT, PVG and PEK, but decreased on routes to DOH, SFO, IAD, ORD and SIN.

Statistics for CPH (see also Wikipedia)
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Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:58 am

QuawerAir wrote:
Yesterday (on 4 July 2018), the air traffic statistics were released on Eurostat meaning that the route statistics for European airports are available for 2017.

So, here are some notable and interesting statistics for HEL and CPH:

Europe - HEL
CPH: 877,534 (+11.2% / +90,000 passengers)
AMS: 665,318 (+18.6% / +110,000 passengers)
OSL: 505,538 (+24.5% / +100,000 passengers)
TXL: 495,488 (+9.3% / +50,000 passengers, despite the bankruptcy of Air Berlin)
KEF: 229,931 (+23.3% / +50,000 passengers)
SVO: 196,341 (+34.3% / +50,000 passengers)

Intercontinental - HEL
NRT: 348,259 (+24.5% / +70,000 passengers)
BKK: 301,097 (+15.2% / +40,000 passengers)
PVG: 184,886 (+13.5% / +20,000 passengers)
SIN: 179,784 (+24.4% / +35,000 passengers))
PEK: 173,884 (+19.0% / +28,000 passengers)

The passenger number increased on all routes in the Top 13.

For the very first time, there is an intercontinental route from HEL with over 300,000 passengers: NRT and BKK. As far as I know, this is also the first time that the busiest intercontinental route from HEL has been busier than one from ARN (ARN-NYC: 329,528 passengers).

Statistics for HEL (see also Wikipedia)



Intercontinental - CPH
NYC: 364,164 (-4.8%)
DXB: 350,095 (+9.6%)
YYZ: 156,744 (+20.9%)

The passenger number increased on routes to DXB, BKK, YYZ, NRT, PVG and PEK, but decreased on routes to DOH, SFO, IAD, ORD and SIN.

Statistics for CPH (see also Wikipedia)


Do you have any link for the eurostat data?
 
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Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:00 am

Someone83 wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:

So, here are some notable and interesting statistics for HEL and CPH:

Europe - HEL
CPH: 877,534 (+11.2% / +90,000 passengers)
AMS: 665,318 (+18.6% / +110,000 passengers)
OSL: 505,538 (+24.5% / +100,000 passengers)
TXL: 495,488 (+9.3% / +50,000 passengers, despite the bankruptcy of Air Berlin)
KEF: 229,931 (+23.3% / +50,000 passengers)
SVO: 196,341 (+34.3% / +50,000 passengers)


What was HEL-ARN and HEL-LHR/LGW?

HEL-ARN: 1,333,101 (+4.7%)
HEL-LON: 945,530 (+5.4%)
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Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:01 am

QuawerAir wrote:

So, here are some notable and interesting statistics for HEL and CPH:

Europe - HEL
CPH: 877,534 (+11.2% / +90,000 passengers)
AMS: 665,318 (+18.6% / +110,000 passengers)
OSL: 505,538 (+24.5% / +100,000 passengers)
TXL: 495,488 (+9.3% / +50,000 passengers, despite the bankruptcy of Air Berlin)
KEF: 229,931 (+23.3% / +50,000 passengers)
SVO: 196,341 (+34.3% / +50,000 passengers)


What was HEL-ARN and HEL-LHR/LGW?
 
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Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:09 am

AsiaTravel wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Yesterday (on 4 July 2018), the air traffic statistics were released on Eurostat meaning that the route statistics for European airports are available for 2017.

[...]

Statistics for HEL (Eurostat) (see also Wikipedia)

[...]

Statistics for CPH (Eurostat) (see also Wikipedia)


Do you have any link for the eurostat data?

Yes. They should also be in my post (I added them afterward).
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Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:23 pm


Jinan targeting services to Helsinki, France and Germany

"Jinan City Mayor Sun Shutao said the city is targeting eight to 10 new international air services within three to five years (Qilu Wan Bao, 04-Jul-2018). The city will launch passenger services to Helsinki, France and Germany in 2018."


Centre For Aviation (CAPA) (behind a paywall, but you can read a part of it here)

Tibet Airlines applied for this route last year but CAAC hasn't approved the application yet (as far as I know). Are they still trying to commence flights to HEL and why would they fly to HEL? The O/D demand should not be that much even though demand for flights from China to Finland has increased pretty much. But I think Beijing Capital Airlines is the most likely Chinese airline to start flying to HEL, along with Air China (even though it's in Star Alliance).
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Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:06 am

SAS had record high 2.7 million passengers in june 2018 according to:

https://www.sasgroup.net/en/sas-traffic-figures-june-2018/

But it also states that they have withdrawn one plane from their intercontinental routes. Anybody know what plane we are talking about

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Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:21 am

MistaP wrote:
SAS had record high 2.7 million passengers in june 2018 according to:

https://www.sasgroup.net/en/sas-traffic-figures-june-2018/

But it also states that they have withdrawn one plane from their intercontinental routes. Anybody know what plane we are talking about

/MistaP


It is the 737-700 that was leases from Privatair until after the summer of 2017
 
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Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:21 am

ilari wrote:
Nami wrote:
Over the weekend JAL celebrated five years of operations at HEL, with the obligatory Moomin of course ...

Time has quite literally flown, in the beginning there were quite a few who were a bit skeptical about how long this would last.

https://www.finavia.fi/en/newsroom/2018 ... nki-vantaa

Apparently they have been doing well.I wonder if CX would ever cooperate same way with AY that JL does, or would AY rather keep all HKG slots to themselves.

I can’t see a JV being a realistic option in the foreseeable future, but related to this I came across this piece from CAPA:

Should Cathay Pacific switch its Copenhagen route to Helsinki and partner with Finnair?

Cathay Pacific’s recently launched Hong Kong-Copenhagen flight will come under significant pressure as SAS moves its Hong Kong-Stockholm flight to Hong Kong-Copenhagen, creating direct overlap. SAS will fly year-round, offer greater frequency, have operating advantages (using the lighter A330 against Cathay’s A350), and critically in a small market like Copenhagen – SAS will have a hub advantage.

This has resulted in some asking whether Cathay should look elsewhere in North Asia and move its Copenhagen service to Helsinki.


Finnair’s Helsinki hub is attracting market share for Europe-Asia travel (although profitability lags). But the fundamentals of the Helsinki hub are different for another airline, even a oneworld carrier. It would probably be too challenging for Cathay Pacific to switch its Copenhagen service to Helsinki.

Elsewhere in Asia, JAL opened a service to Helsinki in Jul-2013. Yet Japan, unlike Hong Kong, is much larger and has long been interested in Finland (especially the local designer Marimekko). The local Japanese market is exceptionally sticky towards a home airline – so they prefer Finnair over JAL.


So far as affects Cathay, Finnair has sufficiently stitched up the local Helsinki market. Cathay would need a partnership to access beyond traffic from Helsinki, which Finnair may be unwilling to supply since it would create competition. These scenarios are often solved through joint ventures.

JAL, Finnair and IAG are part of a Japan-Europe JV. Japan, however, operates air services with high yields, and is characterised by a lack of competition to Europe.

A potential Finnair-Cathay JV could mean that Cathay yields would be weighed down by Finnair’s low-yielding traffic – especially in the premium cabins.
 
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Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:25 am


Finnair A350-900XWB to serve Nagoya, departing Helsinki on 12OCT18, Nagoya on 13OCT18, one-time only


Twitter

Probably Finnair will serve NGO with A350 on a regular basis in the near future.
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According to this thread, also Icelandair plans to serve India in 2019. Thus, there would be two airlines (WOW air and Icelandair) that serve India from KEF. But is there enough room for two carriers connecting KEF to India? Of course, the Indian destination could be eg. Mumbai. Reykjavík is apparently trying to become a hub between North America and India. This was something AY wanted but they have either postponed or abandoned the plan.
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Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:11 pm

HEL June 2018

Domestic: 198,971 (+7.8%)
International 1,751,545 (+12.0%)
Total: 1,950,516 (11.5%)

Overall growth for the first half of the year was 11.9%. Second half should slow down a bit.
 
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Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:37 pm

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According to this thread, also Icelandair plans to serve India in 2019. Thus, there would be two airlines (WOW air and Icelandair) that serve India from KEF. But is there enough room for two carriers connecting KEF to India? Of course, the Indian destination could be eg. Mumbai. Reykjavík is apparently trying to become a hub between North America and India. This was something AY wanted but they have either postponed or abandoned the plan.


The thing is that KEF has 30+ N-American destinations, which is way more than HEL with only JFK year-round and some seasonal routes. So while O&D HEL-India is obviously stronger than KEF, Iceland's unique position enables FI and WW to connect many secondary destinations to both Europe and potentially India, along with the shortest route both distance- and time-wise from some larger markets as well.
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Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:53 pm

Swedish football champions Malmö FF are on the move right now, using a Braathens Regional (I'd still call them Malmö Aviation ...) Avro RJ85 from MMX to Pristina where they will face Drita, the champions from Kosovo ...

http://championsleaguecharters.blogspot ... 10-11.html
 
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SRQKEF wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
According to this thread, also Icelandair plans to serve India in 2019. Thus, there would be two airlines (WOW air and Icelandair) that serve India from KEF. But is there enough room for two carriers connecting KEF to India? Of course, the Indian destination could be eg. Mumbai. Reykjavík is apparently trying to become a hub between North America and India. This was something AY wanted but they have either postponed or abandoned the plan.


The thing is that KEF has 30+ N-American destinations, which is way more than HEL with only JFK year-round and some seasonal routes. So while O&D HEL-India is obviously stronger than KEF, Iceland's unique position enables FI and WW to connect many secondary destinations to both Europe and potentially India, along with the shortest route both distance- and time-wise from some larger markets as well.


KEF has more North American destinations than CPH, OSL, ARN and HEL combined.
 
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Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:49 pm

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LN-RRZ is leaving the SAS fleet today, so now their down to 9 737-600s in their fleet

Boeing 737 -683 28295 149 LN-RRZ SAS ferried 03jul18 OSL-LDE for part-out & scrap ex SE-DNP



I flew LN-RRZ a couple of months ago. It is always a bit sad to see an aircraft type leave the fleet, but it is probably time for the 737-600s to leave. It felt a bit old and worn.

Still, I was happy to be able to fly a 737-600 one more time, and catch some photos and film of it. It was probably my last 737-600 flight. I had another one booked about a month ago, but it was substituted for a 737-700.
 
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Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:02 pm

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SRQKEF wrote:
Oykie wrote:

The end is near. Is it announced yet when the last will retire?


In October, IIRC. Booked myself a pair on OSL-TRD-OSL in September as a last attempt to catch them after 3 failed attempts, fingers crossed it works. :crossfingers:


They will have some -600s into 2019 as well. Probably 6 aircraft as 3 more is scheduled to leave later this year


It seems like the last one will leave the fleet in the autumn or early winter 2019. https://scandinaviantraveler.com/se/fly ... -i-pension (In Swedish)

But I guess plans can change, especially if Airbus are having trouble delivering neos.
 
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Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:47 am


Finnair Traffic Performance in June 2018

Passenger volume reached new monthly record, over 1.2 million passengers during June

In June, Finnair carried 1,240,500 passengers, 12.8% more than in the corresponding period of 2017. The number of passengers grew in Asian traffic (+15.5%), European traffic (+12.4%), North America traffic (+18.2%) and domestic traffic (+9.9%).


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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:22 am

CPH June 2018

Domestic: 148,340 (+2.5%)
Europe: 2,466,436 (+5.3%)
Intercontinental: 328,878 (+14.9%)
Total: 2,943,654 (+6.1%)
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC | AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO | A320, A321, A333, 752, 764, 772, 788
Next flight: HEL-FRA-JFK | LH | A321, 748
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:37 am

Norwegian to open up first long haul base in Scandinavia at CPH in October. There will be 80 New pilot positions:

https://www.hegnar.no/Nyheter/Boers-fin ... Koebenhavn
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:22 am

Mortyman wrote:
Norwegian to open up first long haul base in Scandinavia at CPH in October. There will be 80 New pilot positions:

https://www.hegnar.no/Nyheter/Boers-fin ... Koebenhavn

So, we're probably going to see more long-haul flights from CPH. Maybe Boeing 737 MAX flights to North America (Canada and the East Coast)?
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC | AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO | A320, A321, A333, 752, 764, 772, 788
Next flight: HEL-FRA-JFK | LH | A321, 748
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:23 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
Mortyman wrote:
Norwegian to open up first long haul base in Scandinavia at CPH in October. There will be 80 New pilot positions:

https://www.hegnar.no/Nyheter/Boers-fin ... Koebenhavn

So, we're probably going to see more long-haul flights from CPH. Maybe Boeing 737 MAX flights to North America (Canada and the East Coast)?


Would it be shorter to fly to Asia from CPH than OSL or would they still have to fly over Russia and Sibiria ?
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:12 am

Qatar Airways is expected to within a week announce five weekly Gothenburg service onboard the 787 Dreamliner!
This will be huge news for us and our very first real long haul route...
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:14 am

Presidents Trump and Putin will meet in Helsinki next Monday, this means reinstating of border controls on Schengen internal traffic for four days, from today till Tuesday midday. It's possible things get a bit slower at HEL though internal border controls are not exhaustive and are allocated according to the risk analysis.
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:03 pm

Qatar is increasing OSL to 10x weekly from September 1. And later this fall they are also changing aircraft from 787-8 to A350-900
 
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Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:18 pm

cityairline wrote:
Qatar Airways is expected to within a week announce five weekly Gothenburg service onboard the 787 Dreamliner!
This will be huge news for us and our very first real long haul route...


I have heard this rumor for a long time but I have also understood that QR (or EK for that matter) has plans to continue the flight from GOT to NYC. There by, GOT get both a service to DOH (or DXB) and NYC without SAS or Norwegian entering service as the demand to NYC is enough to sustain a direct service.
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:37 pm

simpan97 wrote:
cityairline wrote:
Qatar Airways is expected to within a week announce five weekly Gothenburg service onboard the 787 Dreamliner!
This will be huge news for us and our very first real long haul route...


I have heard this rumor for a long time but I have also understood that QR (or EK for that matter) has plans to continue the flight from GOT to NYC. There by, GOT get both a service to DOH (or DXB) and NYC without SAS or Norwegian entering service as the demand to NYC is enough to sustain a direct service.

Yes, that old rumour has been around for years now and is quite dated. I’m sure those plans has been on the table, but I don’t think they are anymore...

Second of all. My statement was NOT a rumour, it’s already decided and will be announced by QR within the coming days. It will be a dedicated terminator service from DOH to GOT, not continuing to NYC...
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:45 pm

I know the whole point is to connect GOT to the greater network out of DOH, but I wonder what the O&D is on GOT-DOH, if not just for a good laugh of how small it must be.
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:28 am

SKAirbus wrote:
I have to admit I am happy that SK is moving their HKG route to CPH. ARN is a pretty horrific transfer experience - narrow terminals, long walks, horrendous queues at passport control and security and separate terminals for domestic and international flights.

I don't know why Swedavia cannot integrate Terminal 4 into Terminal 5 by building a segregated corridor, thus creating a one terminal concept for both domestic and international flights like is now the case at CPH, GOT, HEL and OSL (despite having to go through a customs check) to name but a few.

ARN needs to get its act together if it isn't going to lose any more long haul routes.



Because the driving filosophy for the airport since it was built has always been shoddy facelifts over proper expansions and then claim that it is better with cheaper landing fees to attract new airlines. ARN is basically a complete disaster since its inception. Everything that you could possibly do wrong in airport planning, ARN has done and continues to do. The first international terminal was to small from the start, so they had to build a 3rd world country tin shed to house charter passengers. The replacement terminal took 14 years to realize and was to small already when it opened.

All following projects at the airport have been total failiures, starting with the domestic terminal undersized by at least 50% on the opening day and running at 200% capacity less than 3 years after opening. So they added 2 more domestic terminals of which both turned out to be to small. Then the idiots thought it was a good idea to turn one of the domestic terminals into an international terminal and creating the worst terminal setup for any airport in Europe.

The idiot planners have mananged the feat of building 3 runways that can only operate as if it there were only 1,5 because idiot planners built the runways to short and in the wrong place, so due to noice pollution regulation they can't even be used.

And don´t get me started on sky city, another major faliure by the airport planners. What kind of demented lunatic gets the idea to build a transfer building without actually integrating the building properly with the two terminals it is supposed to provide transfer for?

The delutional idiots managing the airport really believe that they will be able to turn it into the biggest hub in northern Europe. The reality is that ARN will end up behind all the other transfer airports in northern Europe including KEF.
 
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Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:29 am

Arlanda has its annoyance for sure (have been through almost 40 times so know it well) but there are worse in Europe - try Berlin Schonefeld

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