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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:08 pm

Does anyone know PDEW between BDL and PHX?
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:30 pm

uconn99 wrote:
Does anyone know PDEW between BDL and PHX?


I haven't updated my tables with any of the 2018 data but the most recent data I have shows:

2017Q2 - 125.88
2017Q1 - 117.94
2016Q4 - 116.74
2016Q3 - 103.42
2016Q2 - 117.42
2016Q1 - 106.37

Peak that I could find is 2006Q1 - 201.94
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:51 am

skyharborshome wrote:
I was all excited to post about a strange visitor to our amazing airport. A Transavia 738 was parked at the gate which I believe would have been a first. On closer inspection, it is wearing “Sun Country Airlines” titles even though nothing else has been repainted. Might be a temp lease since registration is still European. Would research more however I have to get out of here.


Sun Country leases Transavia 738s every winter season to fulfill their huge bump in flights to warm destinations. I think they are done after this year though, Jude (new CEO) wants to increase the fleet next summer which in turn could allow them enough planes in the winter. We will have to wait and see!
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:36 pm

Rumor has it, PHX is going to get some of the first AA A321NEO flights in April. LAX-PHX will be the very first flight as well as PHX-MCO, PHX-ANC and PHX-Hawaii routes will be added soon after. I presume they’re doing this because of the Airbus mx expertise in PHX.
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:05 pm

Not a rumor, the A321 NEO has been slated to take over PHX Hawaii for awhile now. As well as LAX Hawaii. I’d venture it was announced at least a year ago, maybe 2. Maybe it was only internally. But I doubt it. I doubt MX has anything to do with it. LAX and DFW could handle MX on them just as easily. We’ve also been told they will operate LAX-DFW flights as well in the beginning. Hawaii flights are supposed to start in April and they will be doing both PHX and LAX Hawaii that month. The Corporation has stated they are doing PHX Hawaii so they can retire the ancient 757’s ASAP.
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:15 pm

Rdeggendorfer wrote:
Not a rumor, the A321 NEO has been slated to take over PHX Hawaii for awhile now. As well as LAX Hawaii. I’d venture it was announced at least a year ago, maybe 2. Maybe it was only internally. But I doubt it. I doubt MX has anything to do with it. LAX and DFW could handle MX on them just as easily. We’ve also been told they will operate LAX-DFW flights as well in the beginning. Hawaii flights are supposed to start in April and they will be doing both PHX and LAX Hawaii that month. The Corporation has stated they are doing PHX Hawaii so they can retire the ancient 757’s ASAP.


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We've known about Hawaii for a while but not that LAX-PHX was going to be the first flight nor did we know about the other destinations.

Keep in mind this isn't a website full of AA employees so something that was known internally wasn't made public until recently.
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:51 pm

alasizon wrote:
uconn99 wrote:
Does anyone know PDEW between BDL and PHX?


I haven't updated my tables with any of the 2018 data but the most recent data I have shows:

2017Q2 - 125.88
2017Q1 - 117.94
2016Q4 - 116.74
2016Q3 - 103.42
2016Q2 - 117.42
2016Q1 - 106.37

Peak that I could find is 2006Q1 - 201.94


Thank You for the numbers.
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:27 pm

I will say the new/final concourse addition to T4 looks sleek and modern, I just hope they eventually update all the concourses and terminal to match it and make it more cohesive as opposed to the design and overall styles being all over the place like it currently is, just tie everything together more or less. I like the addition of all the new restaurants and shops they've added but the terminal still feels outdated in terms of it brutalist architecture and low ceilings among other things. I hope they can do something similar like what they did in Dallas with DFW's Terminal Renewal and Improvement Program aka TRIP.

DFW TERMINAL RENEWAL AND IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM (TRIP)
https://www.corgan.com/projects/terminal-renewal-and-improvement-program-trip/
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:33 pm

Any word on what will replace the 752 on the PHX-DCA-PHX route once the 752 has been retired?
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:51 pm

AABB777 wrote:
Any word on what will replace the 752 on the PHX-DCA-PHX route once the 752 has been retired?


The 757 hasn't been a permanent fixture on that route. Should just go to an A321.
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:17 pm

MO11 wrote:
AABB777 wrote:
Any word on what will replace the 752 on the PHX-DCA-PHX route once the 752 has been retired?


The 757 hasn't been a permanent fixture on that route. Should just go to an A321.


The 752 has been operating AA685 PHX-DCA-PHX for a long time now and continues into 2019
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:55 pm

AABB777 wrote:
MO11 wrote:
AABB777 wrote:
Any word on what will replace the 752 on the PHX-DCA-PHX route once the 752 has been retired?


The 757 hasn't been a permanent fixture on that route. Should just go to an A321.


The 752 has been operating AA685 PHX-DCA-PHX for a long time now and continues into 2019


There have been periods without the 752. They can easily swap to an Airbus or a 737. Going into the summer I believe the 32Es start to operate PHX-DCA alongside the 757.
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:07 pm

wn676 wrote:
AABB777 wrote:
MO11 wrote:

The 757 hasn't been a permanent fixture on that route. Should just go to an A321.


The 752 has been operating AA685 PHX-DCA-PHX for a long time now and continues into 2019


There have been periods without the 752. They can easily swap to an Airbus or a 737. Going into the summer I believe the 32Es start to operate PHX-DCA alongside the 757.


OK sorry to sound dumb but again, can we try to limit using codes that a lot of us don't know? What is a 32E exactly? Clearly it must be a sub-type of an A320 or 321, but can you spell it out please?
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:05 pm

wn676 wrote:
AABB777 wrote:
MO11 wrote:

The 757 hasn't been a permanent fixture on that route. Should just go to an A321.


The 752 has been operating AA685 PHX-DCA-PHX for a long time now and continues into 2019


There have been periods without the 752. They can easily swap to an Airbus or a 737. Going into the summer I believe the 32Es start to operate PHX-DCA alongside the 757.


The 32E’s will be a nice addition. My concern was that it was going to be a 737.
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:37 pm

cathay747 wrote:
OK sorry to sound dumb but again, can we try to limit using codes that a lot of us don't know? What is a 32E exactly? Clearly it must be a sub-type of an A320 or 321, but can you spell it out please?


Exactly, what is a 32E? This morning Routesonline as American's 321neo listed as 32Q.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... k-in-2q19/
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:06 pm

910A wrote:
cathay747 wrote:
OK sorry to sound dumb but again, can we try to limit using codes that a lot of us don't know? What is a 32E exactly? Clearly it must be a sub-type of an A320 or 321, but can you spell it out please?


Exactly, what is a 32E? This morning Routesonline as American's 321neo listed as 32Q.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... k-in-2q19/


The 32E is the internal code for the 321NEO at AA.
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:48 pm

alasizon wrote:
910A wrote:
cathay747 wrote:
OK sorry to sound dumb but again, can we try to limit using codes that a lot of us don't know? What is a 32E exactly? Clearly it must be a sub-type of an A320 or 321, but can you spell it out please?


Exactly, what is a 32E? This morning Routesonline as American's 321neo listed as 32Q.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... k-in-2q19/


The 32E is the internal code for the 321NEO at AA.


Thank you for the information, so for the rest of us it's a 32Q.
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:49 pm

MrPeanut wrote:
wn676 wrote:
AABB777 wrote:

The 752 has been operating AA685 PHX-DCA-PHX for a long time now and continues into 2019


There have been periods without the 752. They can easily swap to an Airbus or a 737. Going into the summer I believe the 32Es start to operate PHX-DCA alongside the 757.


The 32E’s will be a nice addition. My concern was that it was going to be a 737.


The 738 is on the route now, one of the DCA PHX is with the 738, the other two today are on the 321.
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:59 pm

Just curious, is there any talk about AA sending their 7M8's here?
AS 738, AS 739, WN 737, WN 738, DL 738, BA 744, BA 320, BA 763, HA 763, HA 712, QX E75, DL 320
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:27 pm

910A wrote:
alasizon wrote:
910A wrote:

Exactly, what is a 32E? This morning Routesonline as American's 321neo listed as 32Q.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... k-in-2q19/


The 32E is the internal code for the 321NEO at AA.


Thank you for the information, so for the rest of us it's a 32Q.


Yes, thank you from me too. So, it seems AA is using a different internal code of 32E vs. the IATA code in schedules of 32Q...why do they do this? Seems to me it would cause confusion.

Per the above link there is this info announcing the 321neo services starting from PHX (as well as LAX-MCO):

Phoenix – Anchorage 06JUN19 – 19AUG19 1 daily (AA1413/1372)
Phoenix – Los Angeles 02APR19 – 02MAY19 1 daily (AA820/1895)
Phoenix – Orlando 02APR19 – 02MAY19 1 daily (AA682/1022; Except 21APR19)
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:37 pm

cathay747 wrote:
910A wrote:
alasizon wrote:

The 32E is the internal code for the 321NEO at AA.


Thank you for the information, so for the rest of us it's a 32Q.


Yes, thank you from me too. So, it seems AA is using a different internal code of 32E vs. the IATA code in schedules of 32Q...why do they do this? Seems to me it would cause confusion.


In some cases, different groups within the same airline (e.g. maintenance, flight operations, market planning, crew scheduling) may have different codes that are unique to their needs. In any event, airlines usually send the IATA code out to the GDS systems (but not always). If you look at aa.com, the A321 NEO shows 32Q.
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:54 pm

MO11 wrote:
cathay747 wrote:
910A wrote:

Thank you for the information, so for the rest of us it's a 32Q.


Yes, thank you from me too. So, it seems AA is using a different internal code of 32E vs. the IATA code in schedules of 32Q...why do they do this? Seems to me it would cause confusion.


In some cases, different groups within the same airline (e.g. maintenance, flight operations, market planning, crew scheduling) may have different codes that are unique to their needs. In any event, airlines usually send the IATA code out to the GDS systems (but not always). If you look at aa.com, the A321 NEO shows 32Q.


Thanks for that explanation!
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:25 pm

UA will begin operating the MAX into PHX on April 1st:

UA0365 IAH 1205 PHX 1250 7M9
UA0235 PHX 1405 IAH 1837 7M9
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:04 am

Here's a video of the new and final concourse addition to T4 including new exterior and interior renderings as well as plans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHU2QY9KIL4
 
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Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:21 am

Please continue in next year's thread.

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