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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:07 pm

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Through August 7.9% growth YOY and 6,313,729 passengers, and well on track to 9 million, but currently lower than PIT and CLE


Well on track indeed. With 0% YOY growth in the remaining months you'd be at 9.253 Million. Factoring a conservative 4% growth per month, for the 4 remaining months where #'s have not been provided by the IAA...I'd put you at 9.371 Million by the end of the year.

As an aside...when I pull the #'s for PIT and IND...do you have the feeling that the IAA and the ACAA use the same company for their websites>? Such a similar feel.
 
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:58 pm

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Midwestindy wrote:
Through August 7.9% growth YOY and 6,313,729 passengers, and well on track to 9 million, but currently lower than PIT and CLE


Well on track indeed. With 0% YOY growth in the remaining months you'd be at 9.253 Million. Factoring a conservative 4% growth per month, for the 4 remaining months where #'s have not been provided by the IAA...I'd put you at 9.371 Million by the end of the year.

As an aside...when I pull the #'s for PIT and IND...do you have the feeling that the IAA and the ACAA use the same company for their websites>? Such a similar feel.


Interesting both sites do look very similar, IND just updated their website recently, I wouldn't be surprised if PIT updated theirs recently as well.
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:20 pm

DL upguages:
IND-MSP goes all mainline starting June 8th
IND-SLC goes B738 starting June 8th
IND-BOS goes 3x daily on Sundays starting June 8th
IND-DTW goes 3x mainline (A320/A319/B717) starting June 8th

With the other adds like IND-LAX B738, and IND-CDG daily in April, DL should catch up to WN at a very rapid clip
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:28 pm

Somehow I missed it, but DL is adding the A321 to IND-DTW for March
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Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:15 pm

DL could upgauge a few of its IND-LGA nonstops from regional jets to mainline aircraft since IND is one of the top destinations traveled to from LGA that doesn't currently have nonstop mainline service from LGA. Will DL ever upgauge any of its IND-LGA nonstops to mainline aircraft from mainline?
 
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:56 pm

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DL upguages:
IND-MSP goes all mainline starting June 8th
IND-SLC goes B738 starting June 8th
IND-BOS goes 3x daily on Sundays starting June 8th
IND-DTW goes 3x mainline (A320/A319/B717) starting June 8th

With the other adds like IND-LAX B738, and IND-CDG daily in April, DL should catch up to WN at a very rapid clip


So looking at all of these changes for next June, how would the DL operation compare to the biggest NW operation here back in the day?
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:18 pm

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Midwestindy wrote:
DL upguages:
IND-MSP goes all mainline starting June 8th
IND-SLC goes B738 starting June 8th
IND-BOS goes 3x daily on Sundays starting June 8th
IND-DTW goes 3x mainline (A320/A319/B717) starting June 8th

With the other adds like IND-LAX B738, and IND-CDG daily in April, DL should catch up to WN at a very rapid clip


So looking at all of these changes for next June, how would the DL operation compare to the biggest NW operation here back in the day?


DL's operation will be sizably larger than NW's largest operation by Year-End 2019. In IND DL already grew past NW's largest operation in 2017, so with the growth that DL is currently doing, the largest NW operation will be much smaller than today's DL presence.

In terms of departures NW's operation was larger hovering around 45-50 departures at peak compared to DL at 40-42 on peak days, however the guage and the amount of mainline is what makes IND's numbers larger.

It's to the point where IND has the same number(24 mainline dep. at CVG vs. 23 mainline dep. at IND) of mainline departures as CVG next June, and that is something that I didn't think would happen.

jplatts wrote:
DL could upgauge a few of its IND-LGA nonstops from regional jets to mainline aircraft since IND is one of the top destinations traveled to from LGA that doesn't currently have nonstop mainline service from LGA. Will DL ever upgauge any of its IND-LGA nonstops to mainline aircraft from mainline?


It may be until late next year or early 2020, before the A220 works its way into IND, they still have a lot more competitive routes they need to use the A220 on.

But I heard from some DL people that the A220 is coming, so it's just a matter of time
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:47 am

With RDU getting a YUL flight on AC IND should get one soon I would think.

Looks like IND dodged cuts from Frontier.

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Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:30 am

It would be lovely to see Delta get as creative as Northwest used to be. Philadelphia, San Antonio, Austin....bring on the love.
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:13 pm

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With RDU getting a YUL flight on AC IND should get one soon I would think.

Looks like IND dodged cuts from Frontier.

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I think YUL could come soon, especially if it can tap into that incentive money

I think we will see a new int'l destination within the next few months
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Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:17 pm

I'd like to see AC upgauge YYZ to the -175 before adding YUL personally. RDU is going from 4x CRJ to 3x 175 in addition to 1x YUL. IND-YYZ is only 2x and 3x seasonally right now though isn't it? Probably not enough demand for us to see the -175 yet, unless they did 1x CRJ and 1x 175.
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Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:45 pm

What is the DL increase in seats with all the upgauging? Interesting that DL mainline at 23 daily departures trails CVG''s 24 mainline. How many DL regional departures at IND? CVG?

Are these moves by DL at IND tactics to weaken WN and/or AA at IND?
 
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Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:54 pm

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What is the DL increase in seats with all the upgauging? Interesting that DL mainline at 23 daily departures trails CVG''s 24 mainline. How many DL regional departures at IND? CVG?

Are these moves by DL at IND tactics to weaken WN and/or AA at IND?

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Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:59 pm

Looking at March 22nd for IND-DTW and am finding an A319, 717 and A321 for mainline. I assume the 321 replaces the 757 from the last few winters. Also looks like some E7W's thrown in there too.
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:19 pm

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What is the DL increase in seats with all the upgauging? Interesting that DL mainline at 23 daily departures trails CVG''s 24 mainline. How many DL regional departures at IND? CVG?

Are these moves by DL at IND tactics to weaken WN and/or AA at IND?


From August-to the end of this year I calculated around a 15%-20% increase in seats from new routes and larger aircraft

August saw a 19% growth in pax for DL, and July was at 15% growth in pax.

I think I posted the video before, but the Delta SVP of Network Planning said they wanted to become the #1 airline out of IND, so that obviously impacts AA and WN.
Here is the video: http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/st ... ice-begins

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Looking at March 22nd for IND-DTW and am finding an A319, 717 and A321 for mainline. I assume the 321 replaces the 757 from the last few winters. Also looks like some E7W's thrown in there too.


Makes me wonder if we will see the A321 instead of the B757 on this route, are other routes showing the same switch

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I'd like to see AC upgauge YYZ to the -175 before adding YUL personally. RDU is going from 4x CRJ to 3x 175 in addition to 1x YUL. IND-YYZ is only 2x and 3x seasonally right now though isn't it? Probably not enough demand for us to see the -175 yet, unless they did 1x CRJ and 1x 175.


RDU-YYZ is a much longer route for the CR2, perhaps they want to upguage the longer routes first before they get to IND-YYZ.
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:22 pm

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Looking at March 22nd for IND-DTW and am finding an A319, 717 and A321 for mainline. I assume the 321 replaces the 757 from the last few winters. Also looks like some E7W's thrown in there too.


Makes me wonder if we will see the A321 instead of the B757 on this route, are other routes showing the same switch
At this time, DTW is the only route with the A321, no other routes during that time period have a 757 or A321 on it.
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:36 pm

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Looking at March 22nd for IND-DTW and am finding an A319, 717 and A321 for mainline. I assume the 321 replaces the 757 from the last few winters. Also looks like some E7W's thrown in there too.


Makes me wonder if we will see the A321 instead of the B757 on this route, are other routes showing the same switch
At this time, DTW is the only route with the A321, no other routes during that time period have a 757 or A321 on it.


I was referring to DTW, are there any other DTW routes that are switching from the 757 to the A321? IIRC isn’t GRR switching over as well?
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:55 pm

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Makes me wonder if we will see the A321 instead of the B757 on this route, are other routes showing the same switch
At this time, DTW is the only route with the A321, no other routes during that time period have a 757 or A321 on it.


I was referring to DTW, are there any other DTW routes that are switching from the 757 to the A321? IIRC isn’t GRR switching over as well?
At this moment GRR is still a 757 along with MSN. MKE and IND are A321's.
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Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:09 am

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I think I posted the video before, but the Delta SVP of Network Planning said they wanted to become the #1 airline out of IND, so that obviously impacts AA and WN.
Here is the video: http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/st ... ice-begins


There is almost as much demand for legacy carrier service on the big 3 legacy carriers at IND as there is out of CVG, with there being 5,202,000 passengers who traveled to, from, or through IND on AA, DL, and UA between August 2017 and July 2018 compared to 5,368,000 passengers who traveled to, from, or through CVG on AA, DL, and UA between August 2017 and July 2018.

I think that the demand for legacy carrier service out of IND might exceed the demand for legacy carrier service out of CVG if DL grows to become the #1 airline out of IND.

BDL and STL currently do not have any nonstop service out of IND on any airline, but DL does currently serve BDL and STL nonstop from CVG. DL also already serves BDL nonstop from CLE, even though DL doesn't have a hub or focus city at either CLE or BDL. I think that DL adding IND-BDL nonstop service might happen, especially with DL already having at least one point-to-point nonstop to a destination other than its CVG or RDU focus city out of BDL. In addition to CVG and CLE, BDL is also already served nonstop from MDW, ORD, DTW, MSP, and STL in the Midwest.
 
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:21 pm

Looks like G4 has begun using B5 in addition to B4 and B3. With J1 gone(it appears) and AS only needing B5 in the afternoon, that should give G4 plenty of room for the foreseeable future
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:50 pm

Southwest has a schedule release November 15th. I am really hoping they bring SAN back.

Allegiant should have their schedules released soon too.

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Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:14 pm

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Southwest has a schedule release November 15th. I am really hoping they bring SAN back.

Allegiant should have their schedules released soon too.

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If WN doesn't bring back SAN, I would be shocked.

Be careful though, I wouldn't expect much in the way of new routes from them. Outside of HI they only plan 1-3% growth for 2019. Plus, they have their domestic route map pretty well filled out from IND, they may make AUS, SAN, or MSY daily, possibly add STL and/or BNA, and add a bit more to Florida, but outside of that I wouldn't expect anything more from them for a while

G4 has a lot more potential, if CVG is the blueprint I would be surprised by IND-SJU/EWR/LAX/e.t.c
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Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:40 pm

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Midwestindy wrote:
I think I posted the video before, but the Delta SVP of Network Planning said they wanted to become the #1 airline out of IND, so that obviously impacts AA and WN.
Here is the video: http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/st ... ice-begins


There is almost as much demand for legacy carrier service on the big 3 legacy carriers at IND as there is out of CVG, with there being 5,202,000 passengers who traveled to, from, or through IND on AA, DL, and UA between August 2017 and July 2018 compared to 5,368,000 passengers who traveled to, from, or through CVG on AA, DL, and UA between August 2017 and July 2018.

I think that the demand for legacy carrier service out of IND might exceed the demand for legacy carrier service out of CVG if DL grows to become the #1 airline out of IND.

BDL and STL currently do not have any nonstop service out of IND on any airline, but DL does currently serve BDL and STL nonstop from CVG. DL also already serves BDL nonstop from CLE, even though DL doesn't have a hub or focus city at either CLE or BDL. I think that DL adding IND-BDL nonstop service might happen, especially with DL already having at least one point-to-point nonstop to a destination other than its CVG or RDU focus city out of BDL. In addition to CVG and CLE, BDL is also already served nonstop from MDW, ORD, DTW, MSP, and STL in the Midwest.



IND-BDL is a route I could definitely see DL picking up. Maybe they might try it on E175 or C700 to see how it does, especially if some of those regional planes get freed up with the new 220s entering DLs fleet.

IND-STL is just too short a flight, especially if the targeted pax flying it are mostly OD on both sides. Most buisness pax in STL or IND traveling to the other will opt to make the few hours drive down I-70 at their own time schedule. This is the Midwest after all, and most of that business (and passenger) pax traffic owns a car at home.
 
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:31 am

https://twitter.com/GerryDick/status/10 ... 9511512064

We could possibly hear more about new nonstop flights shortly, Mario Rodriguez is the top story on Insideindiana business this weekend...

kavok wrote:
jplatts wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
I think I posted the video before, but the Delta SVP of Network Planning said they wanted to become the #1 airline out of IND, so that obviously impacts AA and WN.
Here is the video: http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/st ... ice-begins


There is almost as much demand for legacy carrier service on the big 3 legacy carriers at IND as there is out of CVG, with there being 5,202,000 passengers who traveled to, from, or through IND on AA, DL, and UA between August 2017 and July 2018 compared to 5,368,000 passengers who traveled to, from, or through CVG on AA, DL, and UA between August 2017 and July 2018.

I think that the demand for legacy carrier service out of IND might exceed the demand for legacy carrier service out of CVG if DL grows to become the #1 airline out of IND.

BDL and STL currently do not have any nonstop service out of IND on any airline, but DL does currently serve BDL and STL nonstop from CVG. DL also already serves BDL nonstop from CLE, even though DL doesn't have a hub or focus city at either CLE or BDL. I think that DL adding IND-BDL nonstop service might happen, especially with DL already having at least one point-to-point nonstop to a destination other than its CVG or RDU focus city out of BDL. In addition to CVG and CLE, BDL is also already served nonstop from MDW, ORD, DTW, MSP, and STL in the Midwest.



IND-BDL is a route I could definitely see DL picking up. Maybe they might try it on E175 or C700 to see how it does, especially if some of those regional planes get freed up with the new 220s entering DLs fleet.

IND-STL is just too short a flight, especially if the targeted pax flying it are mostly OD on both sides. Most buisness pax in STL or IND traveling to the other will opt to make the few hours drive down I-70 at their own time schedule. This is the Midwest after all, and most of that business (and passenger) pax traffic owns a car at home.


Agreed on both, NW tried IND-STL before and it was a spectacular fail
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:38 am

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https://twitter.com/GerryDick/status/1058028869511512064

We could possibly hear more about new nonstop flights shortly, Mario Rodriguez is the top story on Insideindiana business this weekend...


Interesting. I am curious what will be spoken about by Mario. It's been awhile since he's been on the show.
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:29 am

My guess is he's taking a victory lap.

"Look at us, we just posted some of our highest numbers ever in October, traditionally a slow season, but boosted because of fall break proving that IND is able to provide opportunities, value, and service to travelers at great prices throughout the greater region."

"Preparing to celebrate 6 months of nonstop Paris service, it's going better than planned, etc. etc, ((perhaps we may hear more about an extended daily season)), and its success is really moving us in a direction to make the efforts and commitments financially and strategically to try and increase more service opportunities for international travel."

"We're seeing active engagement with our present air carriers as airlines such as Delta are bringing in bigger aircraft to fly their routes."

"We're actively exploring even more routes and services and opportunities with current carriers. ((he may go and name them by name -- my guesses would be Delta, American, Southwest, and Allegiant))"

I would presume he'll toss in stuff on year end projections, projections for 2019, and probably talk a bit about service and opportunities being tied to a strong Indiana business climate, and a strong outlook on conventions for 2019-2020, including those already booked or are looking to finalize plans soon.

Probably will congratulate himself (I kid, on that part) on the airport being named one of the top airports, etc. etc., and probably toss in some hints they are looking into some new and exciting vending opportunities.

And of course *ALL* of this will tie into the 10th anniversary of the new terminal, as in: hey, look at us, this was money well spent, we built it, we did it, they're coming, you're seeing the benefits."
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:55 am

Without a doubt there will be some discussion about the $20 million and which routes the airport is examining for that money. He mentioned a few months ago that more announcements were coming later in the year and into the beginning of next, and considering it is November those announcements should be imminent.
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:19 pm

Here's hoping for a London service eventually. (Somewhat selfishly ;) as I may be moving to Indianapolis soon, and I'm a frequent traveller to London, so why not have a London flight?) I don't know how realistically soon a London flight would happen, if ever. Are IND still thinking about London, or is it likely years away yet?

Hypothetically speaking, what carrier(s) would be most likely to offer IND-London? Could it be a Delta flight, as they serve CDG currently? (It would be logical, as DL are the only US3 carrier doing this sort of P2P flying.) Or could IND successfully court BA or even Norwegian? Assume any carrier bit the bait, what size/type of aircraft would be best suited for the route? 767 or 787 perhaps; anything larger would be too large, I think (so no A330s or bigger, forget the 747, even though BA serve AUS with the 747).

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Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:57 pm

I prefer not to have London service . . . As quoted 3 posts ago. . . Apparently the Indianapolis service to Paris is going better than expected. When I read a statement like that, I have to ask. . . What were they expecting?

I want to see Delta keep going strong on the service. They were the ones to give Indianapolis the service. I would like to see them add AMS, with CDG, like someone a page again mentioned. Without destroying both. Thoughts?
 
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Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:11 pm

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Here's hoping for a London service eventually. (Somewhat selfishly ;) as I may be moving to Indianapolis soon, and I'm a frequent traveller to London, so why not have a London flight?) I don't know how realistically soon a London flight would happen, if ever. Are IND still thinking about London, or is it likely years away yet?

Hypothetically speaking, what carrier(s) would be most likely to offer IND-London? Could it be a Delta flight, as they serve CDG currently? (It would be logical, as DL are the only US3 carrier doing this sort of P2P flying.) Or could IND successfully court BA or even Norwegian? Assume any carrier bit the bait, what size/type of aircraft would be best suited for the route? 767 or 787 perhaps; anything larger would be too large, I think (so no A330s or bigger, forget the 747, even though BA serve AUS with the 747).

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It's at least a few years away, and for the most part I would think BA or DY. BA would likely use the 787-8, however, Norwegian could use the A321LR which could make the flight more feasible.

The airport is not rushing into anymore European service though, as they seem content with CDG for now.

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https://twitter.com/GerryDick/status/1058028869511512064

We could possibly hear more about new nonstop flights shortly, Mario Rodriguez is the top story on Insideindiana business this weekend...


Interesting. I am curious what will be spoken about by Mario. It's been awhile since he's been on the show.


Btw I watched the inside indiana business interview, and Mario didn't get into hardly any detail about anything

-They talked about how it was the first terminal after 9/11
-Old terminal
-Awards
-Nonstops
- One of best connected midsized airports according to MIT study
-Listening to business needs for nonstops
- Businesses wanted more service to California and west coast, and as a result the west coast is saturated
-Briefly talked about looking into service to Mexico, Canada, and the Caribbean, and mentioned that the airport isn't solely focused on business passengers rather they are looking at leisure travelers as well for new flights
- https://www.wthr.com/article/inside-ind ... rs-service
- Mexico City and Asia mentioned again
-Concession Refresh
- More local
- Sense of place

Didn't even mention $20 million from state, Grant Money, Garage Expansion, Growth numbers, e.t.c

Although the 10 year anniversary on November 11 is coming up, so maybe the airport plans to do something special for that
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Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:47 pm

I definitely got enough to make a bingo
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Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:26 am

So he basically said nothing????? Help out the non - aviation world!
 
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Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:06 pm

Curious to see DL Slightly pulling back the CDG Flights in April and May to less than daily. Was their discussion around this?
 
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Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:09 pm

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Curious to see DL Slightly pulling back the CDG Flights in April and May to less than daily. Was their discussion around this?


Yeah, for a while it appeared DL was going to start flying this daily starting in April, but in their contract it does specify that the flight is supposed to be 5x weekly in April and May so it isn't a cutback.
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Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:10 pm

Know off chance off the top of your head what the off days are?

I'm too lazy to look.
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:16 pm

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Know off chance off the top of your head what the off days are?

I'm too lazy to look.


Monday and Wednesday
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:20 pm

That's interesting. Wednesday does not surprise me, Monday does a bit.
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:48 pm

stlgph wrote:
That's interesting. Wednesday does not surprise me, Monday does a bit.

The days picked have more to do with equipment usage rather than demand. When they reduce frequencies, each DL station cuts out different days so that the aircraft are used evenly.
 
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:47 pm

I was wondering if that ultimately wouldn't have something to do with it, in addition to the 5 weekly instead of 6 or daily or what have you.
I haven't looked, but are there are other Paris cities for Delta that are less than daily, or is just Indy for the time being?
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:23 pm

stlgph wrote:
I was wondering if that ultimately wouldn't have something to do with it, in addition to the 5 weekly instead of 6 or daily or what have you.
I haven't looked, but are there are other Paris cities for Delta that are less than daily, or is just Indy for the time being?


Not as of right now, but the long-haul schedule is likely not complete for April/May yet
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Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:24 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
stlgph wrote:
I was wondering if that ultimately wouldn't have something to do with it, in addition to the 5 weekly instead of 6 or daily or what have you.
I haven't looked, but are there are other Paris cities for Delta that are less than daily, or is just Indy for the time being?


Not as of right now, but the long-haul schedule is likely not complete for April/May yet

Only EWR (5x/wk)/RDU (6x/wk) were less than daily last April and EWR is now gone. Probably not much will change here on out.
 
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:22 am

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-They talked about how it was the first terminal after 9/11


Wasn't that the McNamara terminal at DTW? I remember them having to delay openings to redesign things because of that.
 
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:54 am

IND = designed and built after 9/11
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:38 pm

http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/st ... dy-airport

“Mexico City among nonstop targets for Indy”
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:50 pm

stlgph wrote:
IND = designed and built after 9/11


The current terminal at IND isn't the only commercial passenger airport terminal that was designed and built after 9/11. The current passenger terminal at DAL was designed and rebuilt after 9/11, and the renovations of the current passenger terminal at DAL was completed right before the repeal of the Wright Amendment in October 2014.

The construction of new passenger terminals at LGA to replace the B, C, and D terminals at LGA is underway, and the new LGA terminals were designed after 9/11. There are already plans to build new terminals at MCI and CMH in the Midwest, and construction of the new MCI passenger terminal is scheduled to start in 2020.

A new commercial passenger terminal was recently built at PAE in Greater Seattle, but the new terminal at PAE isn't yet opened. There are plans to open the new passenger at PAE in early 2019, and AS, UA, and WN will all be serving PAE.
 
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:58 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/story/39417673/mexico-city-among-nonstop-targets-for-indy-airport

“Mexico City among nonstop targets for Indy”


With Mexico City being dropped by so many other airlines to other US airports lately, I am curious to see what the appetite for an airline picking this up is.
 
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:10 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/story/39417673/mexico-city-among-nonstop-targets-for-indy-airport

“Mexico City among nonstop targets for Indy”


With Mexico City being dropped by so many other airlines to other US airports lately, I am curious to see what the appetite for an airline picking this up is.


With $$$$ anything is possible :stirthepot:
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:01 pm

But isn't the availability of new facilities at Mexico City in doubt with the new el presidente promising to cancel the new airport?
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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:15 pm

Hmmm New Airline by year's end

https://www.wibc.com/news/local-news/in ... -expansion

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Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:24 pm

ibthebigd wrote:
Hmmm New Airline by year's end

https://www.wibc.com/news/local-news/in ... -expansion

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