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hynithuchi wrote:With the Kosovar population in Switzerland it is obvouly no problem to make Pristina a profitable destination, all the better for them. Niche destinations like TLN, Pula etc operated during the Summer highseason only respond to a demand from TO's and are really marketed like Charter flights used to be. This may produce some extra cash but they probably won't be around again next year. I would really like to see Swiss to develop a comprehensive network at GVA with a bit of planning ahead which would serve the Western Swiss market correctly all year round and not just operate a skeleton schedule in winter and increase with some tourist destinations for a few months in summer. Unless of course, LX is right in saying that the market simply doesn't exist except to a few major cities such as LON/MOW/ZRH/LIS/BCN. And there again, the question will always remain if the GVA market has to stop at Lausanne and the ZRH market start there..![]()
pmartin wrote:Swiss has decided to abandon GVA and GVA has never done better since then. Good riddance. Other have come in, and the market has responded well. Long haul is another issue: life is tough without feeder, see Hamburg, same size as GVA but much less long hauls. Despite being a very wealthy city.
MoonC wrote:"Ethiopian Airlines is launching Geneva in June. Schedules 0725-2045 via Milan Malpensa (ET726/7) with Boeing 787-8 every Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. Flights are open for bookings."
Source: https://twitter.com/followdpts/status/948538757279571968
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MoonC wrote:"Ethiopian Airlines is launching Geneva in June. Schedules 0725-2045 via Milan Malpensa (ET726/7) with Boeing 787-8 every Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. Flights are open for bookings."
Source: https://twitter.com/followdpts/status/948538757279571968
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VSMUT wrote:Anybody know what is happening with Farnair Switzerland/ASL Switzerland? Airfleets.net has them down to just a single ATR 42 now from a fleet of 13, in just a single year.
hynithuchi wrote:With the new A321LR entering the market, could there be a chance of more US East Coast routes to Switzerland ? I could easily see a US carrier operating to BSL where they could attract traffic from the ZRH area as well as the local pharma. GVA could also be interesting for BOS as the market is too small for widebody aircraft, but would suit lower capacity aircraft as the 321LR. I'm not sure if they could be competitive against LX on ZRH routes, but BSL and GVA could possibly work. The range of over 4000 nml for this aircraft should be no problem. Any thoughts ?
sergegva wrote:Does anybody know if passengers flying Ethiopian's AAD-MXP-GVA flight will have to debord the aircraft at MXP and rebord again after immigration, or not?
Question 2, will Ethiopian sell tickets for the GVA-MXP sector? When Kuwait Airways flew GVA-FRA-KWI, they did sell GVA-FRA tickets.
This flight could be great for mountain views. Though not as good as the ephemeral Etihad Regional's Sion-Lugano
sergegva wrote:Does anybody know if passengers flying Ethiopian's AAD-MXP-GVA flight will have to debord the aircraft at MXP and rebord again after immigration, or not?
Question 2, will Ethiopian sell tickets for the GVA-MXP sector? When Kuwait Airways flew GVA-FRA-KWI, they did sell GVA-FRA tickets.
This flight could be great for mountain views. Though not as good as the ephemeral Etihad Regional's Sion-Lugano
SR380 wrote:Donald Trump just annonces he will be assisting the WEF in Davos. Is it possible that the VC-25s will visit ZRH? Or will they land in Ramstein and commute by helicopter like they did in Evian-Les-Bains for the G8?
Afaik the other A320 to leave LX is HB-IJF. Not sure though if that is still planned this year (after the AB insolvency). The 319 are planned to be phased out later.
JulietteBravo wrote:Afaik the other A320 to leave LX is HB-IJF. Not sure though if that is still planned this year (after the AB insolvency). The 319 are planned to be phased out later.
DALCE wrote:Afaik the other A320 to leave LX is HB-IJF. Not sure though if that is still planned this year (after the AB insolvency). The 319 are planned to be phased out later.
When are the first NEO's scheduled to arrive?
I know about the 319's that they will soldier on for a while. HB-IJF is also logged, so she can go
JulietteBravo wrote:Just heard on the Swiss radio that Belair (AirBerlin daughter and Swiss Sister of Niki – until 2002 known as Balair, subsideray of Swissair) will take off again. They found new investors SBC from Düsseldorf who want to reactivate Belair by summer 18. My best wishes to the employees and good luck and success!
(German) :
https://www.aerotelegraph.com/neues-leben-fuer-belair
https://www.presseportal.de/pm/129275/3840323
GianiDC wrote:Are there plans to fold Edelweiss into EW in the future given that WK is basically a leisure destination carrier just like EW?
Blerg wrote:JulietteBravo wrote:Just heard on the Swiss radio that Belair (AirBerlin daughter and Swiss Sister of Niki – until 2002 known as Balair, subsideray of Swissair) will take off again. They found new investors SBC from Düsseldorf who want to reactivate Belair by summer 18. My best wishes to the employees and good luck and success!
(German) :
https://www.aerotelegraph.com/neues-leben-fuer-belair
https://www.presseportal.de/pm/129275/3840323
Great news. This area of Europe definitely needs more airlines. I wonder what market they will go after. Will they try to capture a share of the holiday market or will they also try to get some local, point to point, passengers.
hynithuchi wrote:As far as I know they have a Hungarian AOC and the country being member of the EU, I don't see any obstacles operating VIE/ZRH. They seem however focusing on BSL which only about 60 km from ZRH and they can cover not only the Alsatian and German border market but also the larger ZRH area. So is there a need for them to fly VIE/ZRH where they would face fierce competition and wheer the only advantage over BSL would be for passengers to Zurich city ?
Blerg wrote:hynithuchi wrote:As far as I know they have a Hungarian AOC and the country being member of the EU, I don't see any obstacles operating VIE/ZRH. They seem however focusing on BSL which only about 60 km from ZRH and they can cover not only the Alsatian and German border market but also the larger ZRH area. So is there a need for them to fly VIE/ZRH where they would face fierce competition and wheer the only advantage over BSL would be for passengers to Zurich city ?
Well, why not serve both? The market is probably there. By launching VIE-ZRH they would break LH Group's monopoly and could get access to a large number of higher yielding passengers who currently have no other option than to fly on Swiss or Austrian Airlines. That said, if they do decide to enter this market I think they will need to do it with at leas
Wizz Air is entering the western European market. Eventually they will have to fight for these larger markets. I think VIE-FCO, LTN-ATH and LTN-LCA will be interesting cases to follow and they could show us how competitive Wizz Air truly is outside their comfort zone (eastern Europe).
As for Basel, they are not that big there, especially when compared to easyJet. W6 flies to five destinations all being in the Balkans: Belgrade, Nish, Tuzla, Skopje and Ohrid.
Bhoy wrote:Blerg wrote:hynithuchi wrote:As far as I know they have a Hungarian AOC and the country being member of the EU, I don't see any obstacles operating VIE/ZRH. They seem however focusing on BSL which only about 60 km from ZRH and they can cover not only the Alsatian and German border market but also the larger ZRH area. So is there a need for them to fly VIE/ZRH where they would face fierce competition and wheer the only advantage over BSL would be for passengers to Zurich city ?
Well, why not serve both? The market is probably there. By launching VIE-ZRH they would break LH Group's monopoly and could get access to a large number of higher yielding passengers who currently have no other option than to fly on Swiss or Austrian Airlines. That said, if they do decide to enter this market I think they will need to do it with at leas
Wizz Air is entering the western European market. Eventually they will have to fight for these larger markets. I think VIE-FCO, LTN-ATH and LTN-LCA will be interesting cases to follow and they could show us how competitive Wizz Air truly is outside their comfort zone (eastern Europe).
As for Basel, they are not that big there, especially when compared to easyJet. W6 flies to five destinations all being in the Balkans: Belgrade, Nish, Tuzla, Skopje and Ohrid.
easyJet are opening BSL-VIE this summer already. W6 have 13 destinations ex-BSL, which is ibviously way less than DS with their based Aircraft, but I'd wager more than any single Airline outside the LH Group at ZRH...