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hynithuchi
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:46 am

Adria tends to be extremely expensive while offering a rather mediocre product. Seems like they are struggling with a few other destinations, HAM being one of them. I think most of their customers are either from ZRH or are using the airport for connections. Even nearby ZAG which is much larger doesn't have a GVA link.

Well yes, I know most of their business would be from ZRH and they certainly won't improve it at GVA by selling their tickets at about CHF 440.- o/w via ZRH ( according to their website ). I was always puzzled why the former Yougoslav republics have remained practically a white sheet when it comes to airlinks with GVA while other, more unlikely cities like Riga, Minsk or Chisinau seem to have a limited but certain market potential.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:19 am

hynithuchi wrote:
Adria tends to be extremely expensive while offering a rather mediocre product. Seems like they are struggling with a few other destinations, HAM being one of them. I think most of their customers are either from ZRH or are using the airport for connections. Even nearby ZAG which is much larger doesn't have a GVA link.

Well yes, I know most of their business would be from ZRH and they certainly won't improve it at GVA by selling their tickets at about CHF 440.- o/w via ZRH ( according to their website ). I was always puzzled why the former Yougoslav republics have remained practically a white sheet when it comes to airlinks with GVA while other, more unlikely cities like Riga, Minsk or Chisinau seem to have a limited but certain market potential.


I remember a few years ago GVA-BEG had three airlines competing: Etihad Regional, easyJet and Swiss. easyJet triumphed with their two weekly A319. Now they have three weekly flights on the A320. So far only BEG and PRN manage to sustain year-round service.

I think Adria hoped they would fill their flights with transfer passengers. Unfortunately competition proved to be too strong for them.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:28 pm

I've just read in today's Travel Inside news update that Mr Lorenzo Stoll, LX Manager for Western Switzerland, hinted in an interview with a Swiss German paper at LX examining the feasibility ( and probably profitability ) of some long haul flights out of GVA, mainly to the US East coast. I know this subject has been discussed here at length and personally I believe it when I see it. Would be interested however what aircraft they could use for such flights as I can't see them filling up 3 or 4 B773 from GVA to the US East coast. Have they ordered or are they planning to order smaller aircraft for markets with a limited potential ?
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:27 pm

Qatar Airways will operate to Zurich with their new business class cabin, QSuite, starting 01 NOV 18, Daily
.....up there with the best!
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:46 pm

hynithuchi wrote:
I've just read in today's Travel Inside news update that Mr Lorenzo Stoll, LX Manager for Western Switzerland, hinted in an interview with a Swiss German paper at LX examining the feasibility ( and probably profitability ) of some long haul flights out of GVA, mainly to the US East coast. I know this subject has been discussed here at length and personally I believe it when I see it. Would be interested however what aircraft they could use for such flights as I can't see them filling up 3 or 4 B773 from GVA to the US East coast. Have they ordered or are they planning to order smaller aircraft for markets with a limited potential ?

Unless a new order for widebodies is placed, this is very unlikely. No WB capacities in current fleet, 2 additionally ordered 77W are for frequency increase on current network and one additional new route. Besides, the GVA-JFK 333 is rotated through JFK/ZRH so it's not even a fix stationed aircraft in GVA.

I only see one option: 321LR, if you are only talking about US East-Coast. GVA to BOS, NYC, YUL and IAD is between 3.600 to 4.100nm; whereas the 321LR is also stated to come with a range of up to 4.100nm. Very challenging, but possible at the operational limits. Maybe they take delivery slots of DY, who knows?
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:47 pm

hynithuchi wrote:
I've just read in today's Travel Inside news update that Mr Lorenzo Stoll, LX Manager for Western Switzerland, hinted in an interview with a Swiss German paper at LX examining the feasibility ( and probably profitability ) of some long haul flights out of GVA, mainly to the US East coast. I know this subject has been discussed here at length and personally I believe it when I see it. Would be interested however what aircraft they could use for such flights as I can't see them filling up 3 or 4 B773 from GVA to the US East coast. Have they ordered or are they planning to order smaller aircraft for markets with a limited potential ?

Unless a new order for widebodies is placed, this is very unlikely. No WB capacities in current fleet, 2 additionally ordered 77W are for frequency increase on current network and one additional new route. Besides, the GVA-JFK 333 is rotated through JFK/ZRH so it's not even a fix stationed aircraft in GVA.

I only see one option: 321LR, if you are only talking about US East-Coast. GVA to BOS, NYC, YUL and IAD is between 3.600 to 4.100nm; whereas the 321LR is also stated to come with a range of up to 4.100nm. Very challenging, but possible at the operational limits. Maybe they take delivery slots of DY, who knows?
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:24 am

quote:I only see one option: 321LR, if you are only talking about US East-Coast. GVA to BOS, NYC, YUL and IAD is between 3.600 to 4.100nm; whereas the 321LR is also stated to come with a range of up to 4.100nm. Very challenging, but possible at the operational limits. Maybe they take delivery slots of DY, who knows?[/quote]

Exactly my thoughts, I just wondered if I had missed something. As for possible US East coast destinations, I doubt they would enter the IAD,NYC and YUL markets which are already served by their Star Alliance partners. This would leve BOS only, but in a recent discussion I started in the Boston Aviation thread, all posters agreed that there wasn't really enough demand to make a BOS service work. So nothing new which hasn't been said before.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:05 pm

Swiss has firmed up their 10 purchase options for A32x NEOs. This will bring their firm order to 17 A320neo and 8 A321neo. The original order of 10 A320neo and 5 A321neo will be delivered between 2019 and 2022 while the now firmed up options will be delivered between 2023 and 2024. See Swiss's press release: https://www.swiss.com/corporate/EN/medi ... e-20180928
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:38 am

A quick summary on the orders for LX and 2L :

LX :

2x CS100
5x CS300
17x 320NEO
8x 321NEO
1x 333 (doubtful if it gets delivered, guess not)
2x 77W

2L :

12x E90-2

Substantial amount of orders from CH.
Most frames are for replacement obviously, but the ball keeps rolling as are the CHF's ;)
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:09 pm

DALCE wrote:
2x CS100
5x CS300
17x 320NEO
8x 321NEO
1x 333 (doubtful if it gets delivered, guess not)
2x 77W

I don't think that they still have an A333 order. They ordered a total of 16 A333 all of which were delivered ([email protected], [email protected]). This is also what the Airbus order spreadsheet shows. If they once had an additional order, it must have been cancelled. However of the two A333 at Edelweiss, only one of them is officially owned by WK whereas the other is owned by LX and just leased to WK.

As for the CS300, two more have recently been delivered so that there are now only 3 outstanding CS300 orders. I think by the end of the year all CS300 should be delivered plus maybe also one or even both CS100.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:22 pm

Does anybody know what's happening with LaNova ? They were supposed to start operations today, but I haven't seen anything at all. Is the project still alive at all ?
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:10 pm

hynithuchi wrote:
Does anybody know what's happening with LaNova ? They were supposed to start operations today, but I haven't seen anything at all. Is the project still alive at all ?


From another french forum, one of the La Nova insider said that:
- the operator wasn't able to provide enough cockpit crews due to considerable demand in Asia.
- airlines in Asia offer better wages and opportunities to quickly become captain on widebodies.
. another operator was found, but 15% more expensive, which impacts their balance.

They were supposed to have their first flight today. And no information given on their website.

Time will tell...
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:07 am

Well, I seriously think their project has been quietly shelved and will never see the day.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:32 am

Here are the latest pics of Geneva Airport East Wing: https://twitter.com/Phofmannsair/status/1047765697890308096

Regards, Patrick.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:00 am

Thanks Patrick, it's coming along all right. Mind you, the Chinese would probably complete the job in 5 days instead of 5 years ! :lol:
On another note, flyLaNova has postponed it's launch to next Summer schedule and is also planning to open a base in BRN. Looking at their fares shown on their website, I find it hard to believe the'll get that it ever off the ground.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:23 am

hynithuchi wrote:
Does anybody know what's happening with LaNova ? They were supposed to start operations today, but I haven't seen anything at all. Is the project still alive at all ?


According to the website, FlyLaNova has postponed their launch date to March 2019. http://www.flylanova.com/
Next flights :
FRA-DTW (DL) / DTW-LAS (DL) / LAS-SEA (DL) / SEA-CDG (AF) / CDG-FRA (AF)
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:33 am

hynithuchi wrote:
Thanks Patrick, it's coming along all right. Mind you, the Chinese would probably complete the job in 5 days instead of 5 years ! :lol:
On another note, flyLaNova has postponed it's launch to next Summer schedule and is also planning to open a base in BRN. Looking at their fares shown on their website, I find it hard to believe the'll get that it ever off the ground.


About the East Wing: to keep the price down, they don't work during nights nor weekends. But 3 years to build a 550m long terminal, with aircraft operating a few meters away from the construction site, I think it's quite a good job done by everyone!

I saw the news on Twitter about LA Nova . Yeah, I'm quite pessimist as well.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:05 pm

phofmannsair wrote:
Here are the latest pics of Geneva Airport East Wing: https://twitter.com/Phofmannsair/status/1047765697890308096


So it's finally taking shape.

On another topic someone brought this to my attention, talks between Easyjet and Emirates to offer connections at GVA.

https://www.tdg.ch/geneve/actu-genevois ... y/26351362
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:46 pm

As of March 2019, Swiss will increase ZRH-BEG from 16 to 21 weekly. They will compete with JU which is set to operate 17 weekly.

Belgrade seems to be the only ex-YU destination that can handle so many flights on a year-round basis. LX said they are also considering adding more flights to INI (currently served three times per week).
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:54 am

quote" On another topic someone brought this to my attention, talks between Easyjet and Emirates to offer connections at GVA"unquote
Couldn't that bring the MEX flight back up for discussion, now that EK has dropped their plan for a DXB/BCN/MEX flight ?
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:06 pm

Thought I'd post this here,as I've not seen it beeing dicussed anywhere else.

With the beginning of the winter schedule, Swiss will be changing the operator for the Zrh-Lug route from Austrian Airlines to Adria Airways.
The flights will be operated by Adrias Saab 2000 aircraft.

Source (only in German): https://www.aerotelegraph.com/strecke-zuerich-lugano-swiss-wechselt-von-austrian-zu-adria-airways

As a consequence of this change, Austrian will remove one of the Q400s they operate on behalf of Swiss.

Source (also only in german):https://www.aerotelegraph.com/austrian-airlines-zieht-dash-8-aus-der-schweiz-ab
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:00 pm

Lately, THAI (TG) has been sending their 744's to ZRH. This is probably the only 747 operations to/from ZRH?
Is there any particular reason besides an increased demand? I think their 744's have slightly more seats than the regular 77W including the availability of First Class.
Just saw HS-TGW in Star Alliance livery taking off. Still a beauty in the skies!!!
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:05 pm

Do LX still use the A340 or B77W on domestic runs?
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:48 pm

AFAIK only the 333 once in a while to rotate through the GVA-JFK flight. However, it is possible to see heavies on European flights for training and high demand purposes.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:11 pm

stylo777 wrote:
Lately, THAI (TG) has been sending their 744's to ZRH. This is probably the only 747 operations to/from ZRH?
Is there any particular reason besides an increased demand? I think their 744's have slightly more seats than the regular 77W including the availability of First Class.
Just saw HS-TGW in Star Alliance livery taking off. Still a beauty in the skies!!!

[photoid][/photoid]

Supposedly TG is using the B744 to ZRH occasionally when there is a shortage of B77W's due to technical reasons. Nevertheless on too short notice this can't be done either as at least a B744 cockpit crew will need to be stationed in ZRH at least 24 / 48 hours in advance to operate the return flight to BKK

Regarding flights operated on A333/340 and B77W by LX, various flights to mostly CPH and ATH were operated by A333 and some one off flights to GVA, VIE and HAJ operated by A330/340 including some flights to ATH and GVA with B77W this summer. Most of the flights were operated not for capacity but rather crew training reasons.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:46 pm

CarbonFibre wrote:
Do LX still use the A340 or B77W on domestic runs?


Well, yes. They always did whenever the need arose. The A330s too. They even used Edelweiss A333s recently (at the same time to train new pilots). So yeah, it happens.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:12 pm

LXA340 wrote:
Most of the flights were operated not for capacity but rather crew training reasons.


Incorrect. Most of the flights were in fact operated for capacity. Not the extra seats though (the A330/340s only have a couple seats more than an A321) but to help out the shorthaul fleet that was operating at maximum this summer and as the refurbishment of the A340s has been delayed again and again, LX had an extra WB-Airbus that otherwise would have been at maintenance.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:35 pm

gjunnar wrote:
LXA340 wrote:
Most of the flights were operated not for capacity but rather crew training reasons.


Incorrect. Most of the flights were in fact operated for capacity. Not the extra seats though (the A330/340s only have a couple seats more than an A321) but to help out the shorthaul fleet that was operating at maximum this summer and as the refurbishment of the A340s has been delayed again and again, LX had an extra WB-Airbus that otherwise would have been at maintenance.


Do you know why the refurbishment was delayed?
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:23 pm

Blerg wrote:
Do you know why the refurbishment was delayed?


It is no secret that the certification of the new first class seats seems to pose an insurmountable obstacle (e.g. in German:https://www.aerotelegraph.com/a340-von-swiss-fliegen-noch-laenger-mit-altem-interieur)
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:32 pm

Another quick update on the East Wing: https://twitter.com/Phofmannsair/status ... 3368924160

Regards, Patrick.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:43 pm

phofmannsair wrote:
Another quick update on the East Wing: https://twitter.com/Phofmannsair/status ... 3368924160

Regards, Patrick.

Great, keep it going !
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:02 pm

phofmannsair wrote:
Another quick update on the East Wing:


Looks like it's moving fast. It seems the new structure is already beyond the east end of the IATA building.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:40 pm

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
phofmannsair wrote:
Another quick update on the East Wing:


Looks like it's moving fast. It seems the new structure is already beyond the east end of the IATA building.


It's going quite fast indeed. They are almost at the end of the IATA center, now in the middle of gate 15.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:33 am

Some new schdeules have been released on the flylanova website. From february 1st an aircraft would operate from BRN and another one from ANR :

1234--- BRN 620 - 720 MUC 740 - 0840 BRN 910 - 940 SXB 1000 - 1030 LON 1100 -1300 ANR 1350 - 1400 LON 1430 - 1700 SXB 1720 - 1750 BRN 1810 - 1910 MUC 1930 - 2030 BRN
----5-7 BRN 910 - 1110 PMI 1140 - 1340 BRN 1410 - 1510 MUC 1530 - 1630 BRN 1710 - 1740 SXB 1800 - 1830 LON 1900 - 2130 SXB 2150 - 2220 BRN
-----6- BRN 800 - 840 LON 910 - 1150 BRN 1220 - 1420 PMI 1450 - 1650 BRN

1234--- ANR 700 - 710 LON 740 - 940 ANR 1000 - 1120 HAM 1145 - 1325 BRN 1355 - 1535 HAM 1600 - 1730 ANR 1750 - 1800 LON 1830 - 2030 ANR
----5-7 ANR 930 - 940 LON 1010 - 1210 ANR 1240 - 1430 NCE 1500 - 1610 BRN 1630 - 1740 NCE 1810 - 2000 ANR 2020 - 2030 LON 2100 - 2300 ANR
-----6- ANR 800 - 950 NCE 1020 - 1130 BRN 1200 - 1310 NCE 1340 - 1530 ANR
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:53 am

Guess it is more or less as expected, but Swiss and Helvetic will continue their wetlease agreement with Helvetic flying up to 8 E190 (or/and E190-E2) for Swiss the coming Summer

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... aboration/
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:13 am

What is Swiss replacing the wetleased Austrian Q400 capacity with, now that they are going back to fly for Austrian?

http://atwonline.com/leasing/austrian-s ... iss-return

Swiss International Air Lines (SWISS) will end a wet-lease contract with Austrian Airlines for four Bombardier Dash 8 Q400s.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:17 am

Someone83 wrote:
What is Swiss replacing the wetleased Austrian Q400 capacity with, now that they are going back to fly for Austrian?

http://atwonline.com/leasing/austrian-s ... iss-return

Swiss International Air Lines (SWISS) will end a wet-lease contract with Austrian Airlines for four Bombardier Dash 8 Q400s.


Isn't the answer in what you posted just above ?

1 Adria Saab2000 replacing the Q400 to Lugano, then the additional 4 Helvetic aircraft plus whatever CSeries are still to arrive.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:11 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Guess it is more or less as expected, but Swiss and Helvetic will continue their wetlease agreement with Helvetic flying up to 8 E190 (or/and E190-E2) for Swiss the coming Summer

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... aboration/


Maybe I'm missing something but I thought the E190s are as a interim solution for the delay to Cseries deliveries...?

However, haven't all of Swiss' CS100s been delivered?

The CS300s which are still being delivered are more comparable to a a319 in size, not an E190...
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:52 pm

The press release is a bit weird, they closed a deal for 8 E190s (E1/E2) from Helvetic. This is in addition to 4 E190s which are under a long-term wetlease. However, there are/were more than 4 E190s flying for Swiss. As such I read it that they are replacing the 3 Q400s opb OS. 1 is supposed to be replaced by an S2000 of JP.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:25 pm

kimimm19 wrote:

However, haven't all of Swiss' CS100s been delivered?

The CS300s which are still being delivered are more comparable to a a319 in size, not an E190...


2 CS100s and 3 CS300s left to be delivered.

The original plan was that the 5 319s would be replaced by the CS300 and RJ100s by CSeries mix. LX has gradually increased the average aircraft seat count. Except for LUG there aren't really any destinations that can't take E190 capacity and/or the difference in operating costs between a Q400 and 190/CS1 isn't that big.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:31 pm

HB-JCA is loosing its special livery :(

Bombardier CS 300 55042 YL-CSM airBaltic delivery 30nov18 YMX-RIX
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:52 pm

Someone83 wrote:
HB-JCA is loosing its special livery :(

Bombardier CS 300 55042 YL-CSM airBaltic delivery 30nov18 YMX-RIX

About time :D :D
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:02 pm

LX is keeping the A319's a tad longer, they were needed badly after the demise of Air Berlin who had a substantial base in ZRH too.
Not sure how much longer they stay, but I expect them to be phased out after next Summer. The first NEO's will arrive in 2019 replacing older 320's, and after the summer the 319 might become obsolete for LX with Helvetic ready to jump in with their E-jets.
Personally I see a top-up order for more CS300's somewhere next year to expand the GVA base and slight seatincrease in ZRH.
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:56 pm

Someone83 wrote:
HB-JCA is loosing its special livery :(


But will get another one! A new livery will be unveiled at GVA on Feb 1st, 2019 for the "Fête des Vignerons".
Sur sure it will be JCA or another A223 though.

Regards, Patrick.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:30 pm

DALCE wrote:
Personally I see a top-up order for more CS300's somewhere next year to expand the GVA base and slight seatincrease in ZRH.


Seems likely as LX has plans to increase GVA base by 2 aircraft next summer plus some further expansion after that.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:30 pm

Some new GVA East Wing pics taken today: https://twitter.com/Phofmannsair/status/1068874365641609217
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:39 pm

Thanks for the update. I cam't remember, is 2019 set for completion? Cause it looks almost "done".
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:22 pm

SR380 wrote:
Thanks for the update. I cam't remember, is 2019 set for completion? Cause it looks almost "done".

No, as far as know, it is supposed to be completed in autumn 2020 only. It's a real pity it is delayed this much, GVA could badly do with a widebody terminal. In fact, originally, this East Wing was supposed to be operational in 2014 already, at least the Airport Manager said so at the press conference when the project was disclosed around 2010.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:45 pm

hynithuchi wrote:
SR380 wrote:
Thanks for the update. I cam't remember, is 2019 set for completion? Cause it looks almost "done".

No, as far as know, it is supposed to be completed in autumn 2020 only. It's a real pity it is delayed this much, GVA could badly do with a widebody terminal. In fact, originally, this East Wing was supposed to be operational in 2014 already, at least the Airport Manager said so at the press conference when the project was disclosed around 2010.


Geneva Airport has been so mismanaged all this years. It's a shame (but maybe understandable considering Swissair withdrew in 1996, the 09.11, Swissair's demise, etc...). I wish the original "Y" shaped pier, connected with an automatic people's mover, would have been built. The second runway close to Collex would have been great too.
 
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Re: Swiss aviation thread - 2018

Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:51 am

hynithuchi wrote:
No, as far as know, it is supposed to be completed in autumn 2020 only. It's a real pity it is delayed this much, GVA could badly do with a widebody terminal. In fact, originally, this East Wing was supposed to be operational in 2014 already, at least the Airport Manager said so at the press conference when the project was disclosed around 2010.


Well at least a new building is being built, finally. Years ago I remember all the great talks at GVA about building a new terminal during the '90s that of course never happened and the airport got stuck with that temporaty building of the '70s (?) to serve long-haul flights, followed years later by an extention of the check-in level. I wonder if one day they'll consider removing the outdated mushrooms?
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