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Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:18 pm
by SQ22
All the best in 2018. Please continue your discussion and to post your updates here.

Link to previous thread:

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Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:23 pm
by timberwolf24
Kuwait airways will operate from new dedicated Terminal in March 2018 and will launch 4 new destinations, Chicago, Madrid, Casablanca, Sarajevo.

https://www.emaratyah.ae/725078.html

Any updates on KU returning to Chicago?

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:07 pm
by dubaiamman243
Saudia will place an order for WB aircraft.

A359/B777X/B789/B7810???

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:51 pm
by worldranger
EK DXB-CKY-DKR-DXB switched to DXB-DSS-CKY-DXB from mid Dec until 1stFEB due fuel issues at new Dakar airport.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:28 am
by dubaiamman243
Emirates will downgrade DXB - BNE (EK434/435) to B777 from JUN1 till AUG1.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:14 pm
by Slash787
dubaiamman243 wrote:
Saudia will place an order for WB aircraft.

A359/B777X/B789/B7810???


The ongoing rumour was the B777X

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:17 am
by Cunard
timberwolf24 wrote:
Kuwait airways will operate from new dedicated Terminal in March 2018 and will launch 4 new destinations, Chicago, Madrid, Casablanca, Sarajevo.

https://www.emaratyah.ae/725078.html

Any updates on KU returning to Chicago?


Regarding Kuwait Airways are there any updates on the proposed service to Manchester that was rumoured to start last year but obviously didn't occur?

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:44 am
by dubaiamman243
Saudia is expected to order 20 B777X during the upcomimg Farnborough air show or the Saudi King visit to the U.S.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:18 pm
by worldranger
Emirates to resume 5 weekly 777 to SAW (Istanbul) effective 8/6/18

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:09 am
by xwb777
Kuwait Airways will launch flights to Chicago, Los Angeles and Manchester.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:28 am
by Blerg
Wataniya will increase KWI-SJJ from three weekly to five weekly this summer season. flydubai is expected to operate up to three daily flights during the same period.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:37 pm
by Monty1988
Cunard wrote:
timberwolf24 wrote:
Kuwait airways will operate from new dedicated Terminal in March 2018 and will launch 4 new destinations, Chicago, Madrid, Casablanca, Sarajevo.

https://www.emaratyah.ae/725078.html

Any updates on KU returning to Chicago?


Regarding Kuwait Airways are there any updates on the proposed service to Manchester that was rumoured to start last year but obviously didn't occur?


Kuwait Malaga Casablanca to commence on June 14th equipment A330-200 Manchester starts next July equipment A330-200 & Los Angeles July equipment B777-300ER Chicago is cancelled,All KAC flights will be from the new KAC T4 Terminal.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:07 pm
by User001
Are we expecting MAN to be about 2-3 weekly?

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:55 am
by KU747
timberwolf24 wrote:
Kuwait airways will operate from new dedicated Terminal in March 2018 and will launch 4 new destinations, Chicago, Madrid, Casablanca, Sarajevo.

https://www.emaratyah.ae/725078.html

Any updates on KU returning to Chicago?
Monty1988 wrote:
Cunard wrote:
timberwolf24 wrote:
Kuwait airways will operate from new dedicated Terminal in March 2018 and will launch 4 new destinations, Chicago, Madrid, Casablanca, Sarajevo.

https://www.emaratyah.ae/725078.html

Any updates on KU returning to Chicago?


Regarding Kuwait Airways are there any updates on the proposed service to Manchester that was rumoured to start last year but obviously didn't occur?


Kuwait Malaga Casablanca to commence on June 14th equipment A330-200 Manchester starts next July equipment A330-200 & Los Angeles July equipment B777-300ER Chicago is cancelled,All KAC flights will be from the new KAC T4 Terminal.
Monty1988 wrote:
Cunard wrote:
timberwolf24 wrote:
Kuwait airways will operate from new dedicated Terminal in March 2018 and will launch 4 new destinations, Chicago, Madrid, Casablanca, Sarajevo.

https://www.emaratyah.ae/725078.html

Any updates on KU returning to Chicago?


Regarding Kuwait Airways are there any updates on the proposed service to Manchester that was rumoured to start last year but obviously didn't occur?


Kuwait Malaga Casablanca to commence on June 14th equipment A330-200 Manchester starts next July equipment A330-200 & Los Angeles July equipment B777-300ER Chicago is cancelled,All KAC flights will be from the new KAC T4 Terminal.


KU through Twitter, no new destinations has been announced, all news through social media about the new destinations are not true.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:58 pm
by xwb777
Royal Jordanian will launch flights to Copenhagen starting from 03JUN18.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:14 am
by xwb777
Gulf Air B789 to fly BAH - LHR double daily starting from the second half of 2018.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:04 pm
by xwb777
Flydubai announces flights to Aqaba, Jordan and Thessaloniki, Greece, starting from 16 and 15 June respectively.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:06 pm
by royroy
is there any chance FlyDubai may look at long haul planes in the future? maybe as the long haul low cost offshoot?

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:19 pm
by Newflyer2018
Looks like Etihad will reducing their B777 pax fleet in 2018.

5XA330F

5x B777LR average age between 10-11 years old. Ex Air India.

5x B777ER the oldest B777 in the fleet (12 years old) to be replaced with 6x B789 and the 1st B781 arriving from April at rate of approx one a 1 month.

1st A350-900 set to arrive in Oct.

Very surprised to see they are still operating a 25 years old A320, given it has been painted in the new livery it seems like it’s here to stay for a little longer.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:47 pm
by Slash787
6X B789? They already have 19 out of 23 B789's.

Any idea when EY will take the deliveries of the A320/21 Neo?

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:32 pm
by xwb777
royroy wrote:
is there any chance FlyDubai may look at long haul planes in the future? maybe as the long haul low cost offshoot?


They will keeep that job for Emirates.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:13 pm
by Blerg
xwb777 wrote:
royroy wrote:
is there any chance FlyDubai may look at long haul planes in the future? maybe as the long haul low cost offshoot?


They will keeep that job for Emirates.



Indeed. flydubai is great at developing a market until it matures enough in order to handle Emirates.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:17 pm
by Newflyer2018
Slash787 wrote:
6X B789? They already have 19 out of 23 B789's.

Any idea when EY will take the deliveries of the A320/21 Neo?


23? Etihad has a total of 41x 787-9 on order and if you combine the 30x 781 it makes etihad the largest airline customer for 787.

The first A321 neo is due is Q4 2019.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:31 pm
by qf789
Newflyer2018 wrote:
Slash787 wrote:
6X B789? They already have 19 out of 23 B789's.

Any idea when EY will take the deliveries of the A320/21 Neo?


23? Etihad has a total of 41x 787-9 on order and if you combine the 30x 781 it makes etihad the largest airline customer for 787.

The first A321 neo is due is Q4 2019.


Etihad will take 3 789 and 4 787-10 this year as stated in the 787 production thread

EY will not be the largest customer for the 787, ANA is

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:31 pm
by Slash787
Newflyer2018 wrote:
Slash787 wrote:
6X B789? They already have 19 out of 23 B789's.

Any idea when EY will take the deliveries of the A320/21 Neo?


23? Etihad has a total of 41x 787-9 on order and if you combine the 30x 781 it makes etihad the largest airline customer for 787.

The first A321 neo is due is Q4 2019.


I guess someone needs to update the EY wiki page then if its 41x 789's

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:36 pm
by qf789
Slash787 wrote:
Newflyer2018 wrote:
Slash787 wrote:
6X B789? They already have 19 out of 23 B789's.

Any idea when EY will take the deliveries of the A320/21 Neo?


23? Etihad has a total of 41x 787-9 on order and if you combine the 30x 781 it makes etihad the largest airline customer for 787.

The first A321 neo is due is Q4 2019.


I guess someone needs to update the EY wiki page then if its 41x 789's


According to Boeing its 41 789 and 30 787-10

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:24 pm
by Slash787
qf789 wrote:
Slash787 wrote:
Newflyer2018 wrote:

23? Etihad has a total of 41x 787-9 on order and if you combine the 30x 781 it makes etihad the largest airline customer for 787.

The first A321 neo is due is Q4 2019.


I guess someone needs to update the EY wiki page then if its 41x 789's


According to Boeing its 41 789 and 30 787-10


My bad, I got confused.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:53 pm
by xwb777
Did Ryanair start AMM? I saw a Ryanair B737 at the airport.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:47 pm
by SCQ83
Air Arabia is starting flights from Alexandria to Bergamo (Milan)

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -may-2018/

Is there any chance they start more European flights from Egypt? Egypt is very underserved by low-cost carriers to Europe.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:08 am
by xwb777
Emirates will fly a one-off A380 to Brussels on April 19 to test the new A380 gate.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:31 am
by AsiaTravel
Newflyer2018 wrote:
1st A350-900 set to arrive in Oct.


Interesting, only the 351 are showing on the A350 production sheet. Do you know the first MSN they will get?

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:39 pm
by xwb777
Ryanair has started 14 new routes from Europe to Jordan.
The new routes will connect Amman to Milan, Budapest, Bologna, Krakow, Bucharest, Paphos, Prague, Brussels, Vilnius and Warsaw, with Aqaba in the south of the country now served by flights from Athens, Rome, Cologne and Sofia. The Paphos flights will begin in March, while the routes to Aqaba will start in October.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:39 pm
by Blerg
Which Middle Eastern countries have an Open Skies Agreement signed with the EU? I know there is Turkey, Israel, Jordan but what about the rest?

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:59 am
by Newflyer2018
AsiaTravel wrote:
Newflyer2018 wrote:
1st A350-900 set to arrive in Oct.


Interesting, only the 351 are showing on the A350 production sheet. Do you know the first MSN they will get?


S/N: ETD-A35034337

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:45 am
by redadeco
Blerg wrote:
Which Middle Eastern countries have an Open Skies Agreement signed with the EU? I know there is Turkey, Israel, Jordan but what about the rest?


I can't think of another one, Morocco not being a ME country.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:42 am
by jukechris
Does anybody know something more about Kuwait-Malaga-Casablanca route? I cannot find anything in the red.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:05 pm
by airway1
Some news on Kuwait:

* Airport handled 13.7 million pax in 2017 with Qatar issues helping with the growth as passengers to Saudi, Egypt, Bahrain and UAE having to transit via Kuwait

* January numbers out at 1.34 million up 24%. In my opinion Kuwait airport will hit 15 to 16 million this year.

* Kuwait Airways announced Trabzon and Tiblisi as new routes

* Wataniya will start Istanbul Sabeha.

* New terminals for both KU and Jazeera will come on line 2 quarter which should help main terminal a lot. I noticed that Jazeera building is connected to the main airport.

* wataniya has placed an order for 25 planes. This will strain the old airport. Let’s see how this goes.

* there is a rumor that United will be coming back to kuwait not sure if this is true or not

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:54 pm
by xwb777
Saudia aims to be a 5 star airline by the end of 2019

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:46 pm
by Blerg
xwb777 wrote:
Saudia aims to be a 5 star airline by the end of 2019


Are they still trying to build a hub or are they concentrating on O&D passengers? I don't think the region needs yet another hub.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:11 am
by THY748i
Lots of EK and EY planes planes over western Iraq going instead of eastern Iran right now (yet not totally avoiding Iran). Any reason? Has there bern any sudden dramatic downfall in the already strained relations or is overflying Iraq just considered to be much safer now (as it's obviously the shorter way to Europe).

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:03 am
by airway1
THY748i wrote:
Lots of EK and EY planes planes over western Iraq going instead of eastern Iran right now (yet not totally avoiding Iran). Any reason? Has there bern any sudden dramatic downfall in the already strained relations or is overflying Iraq just considered to be much safer now (as it's obviously the shorter way to Europe).


Flights were diverted over Iran after the Malaysian airliner was hit over Ukraine. There was a fear that planes would be shot down by ISIS. Now that ISIS was pushed out of Iraq planes are resuming their old flight planes over Iraq.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:21 pm
by sand26391
Whats AUH 2017 Pax traffic stats?

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:45 pm
by worldranger
EK DXB-TUN daily service to resume 28/3/18

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:37 am
by worldranger
EK to start rolling out 2 Class 777LR’s 25/3/18

38J/268Y

Initial routes Fort Lauderdale, Ahmedabad, Karachi, Mumbai, Yinchuan – Zengzhou, GRU-SCL

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:55 am
by sand26391
GULF AIR to launch DAILY flights btw Bengaluru(BLR) & Bahrain from 1st MAY using A320 aircraft. Bookings open on GF website.

On Mon,Wed, Fri, Sat & Sun
GF282 BAH 2045 0335 BLR
GF283 BLR 0425 0635 BAH

On Tue & Thur
GF281 BAH 1415 2105 BLR
GF280 BLR 2200 0010 BAH

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:37 am
by Clipper101
FlyDubai to launch Aqaba starting this June with 4 flights per week.

Ryanair earlier also announced it will start serving the Jordanian city on the Red Sea during the course of this year from multiple points in Europe.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:26 pm
by worldranger
DXB to close southern runway for 45 days due maintenance upgrade - APR/MAY 2019. Reduction in flying for all carriers with DWC offered as alternative.

DWC upgrade will be ready to handle up to 26m per year by that time.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:27 pm
by Blerg
Etihad increases BEG from current 7 to 10 weekly from July 1st.

1234567 AUH-BEG 02.05-05.45
1--4-6- AUH-BEG 08.05-11.45 (new)

1--4-6- BEG-AUH 11.35-18.55 (new)
1234567 BEG-AUH 13.00-20.20

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:06 pm
by A330
xwb777 wrote:
Saudia aims to be a 5 star airline by the end of 2019


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Best joke in a long time.

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:27 pm
by russyyz
xwb777 wrote:
Saudia aims to be a 5 star airline by the end of 2019


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Best joke in a long time.

One can't have five star if we can't all be treated equally in each class, and we can't drink wine on board.