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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:43 am
by Dreamflight767
Amazing. Thank you.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:28 pm
by bigfoot0503
Following the information that FA9295 had supplied regarding the Cincinnati Airport CEO stating that PDX non-stop flights were a priority for that airport I sent an email to the CVG Airport Administration outlining some of my observations and expressed my support of their efforts, this was the reply I received:

"Thank you for your e-mail concerning potential CVG-PDX service. This market is a key priority for us and we are working with Delta and many other carriers to gain future nonstop service between CVG and PDX. Thank you for your comments and use of CVG. Hopefully we can make this happen in the next 12 to 18 months"
Regards,
Bobby
Bobby L. Spann – Vice President, External Affairs


I was rather impressed with the quick reply I received (1 day) and from whom I received it. I can't really state with confidence that some of my past inquiries with the Port of Portland have been addressed as quickly and seemingly by someone who clearly has input into the decision making process at such a high level as this gentlemen does. If anyone cares to lobby or express your thoughts on the efforts of CVG to PDX non-stops I have included the email of Mr. Spann herein. My only hope is that if indeed we do witness a service addition that it not be Frontier...sorry folks, not really a fan of what they have done here at PDX and elsewhere and frankly the logical air carrier to resume this non-stop route would be Delta.

[email protected]

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:47 pm
by FA9295
bigfoot0503 wrote:
Following the information that FA9295 had supplied regarding the Cincinnati Airport CEO stating that PDX non-stop flights were a priority for that airport I sent an email to the CVG Airport Administration outlining some of my observations and expressed my support of their efforts, this was the reply I received:

"Thank you for your e-mail concerning potential CVG-PDX service. This market is a key priority for us and we are working with Delta and many other carriers to gain future nonstop service between CVG and PDX. Thank you for your comments and use of CVG. Hopefully we can make this happen in the next 12 to 18 months"
Regards,
Bobby
Bobby L. Spann – Vice President, External Affairs


I was rather impressed with the quick reply I received (1 day) and from whom I received it. I can't really state with confidence that some of my past inquiries with the Port of Portland have been addressed as quickly and seemingly by someone who clearly has input into the decision making process at such a high level as this gentlemen does. If anyone cares to lobby or express your thoughts on the efforts of CVG to PDX non-stops I have included the email of Mr. Spann herein. My only hope is that if indeed we do witness a service addition that it not be Frontier...sorry folks, not really a fan of what they have done here at PDX and elsewhere and frankly the logical air carrier to resume this non-stop route would be Delta.

[email protected]

Wow! That's great to hear! I agree that I would MUCH rather have Delta provide the route ahead of Frontier. Even though Frontier would probably be cheaper to fly on, I would suspect that they would only perform a few flights a week on a summer-seasonal basis. Delta would probably be more inclined to run the route daily (although probably only summer-seasonal to start out with). Also, a Frontier flight would probably be a red-eye departure from PDX while Delta would have more flexibility on what time of day to schedule the route on, since they have a significantly larger fleet than Frontier does.

Unfortunately, I feel as though Frontier would be more likely to start the route since they seem to have a "dartboard approach" (if you will) to planning and starting new routes. They dont seem to be too afraid to test out new markets. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Delta only runs SEA-CVG on a summer-seasonal basis; so with that being said, I would only guess that Delta would want to upgrade that route to year-round service first. If Frontier could make the route work year-round, I think it would be well worth it, but if CLE is only 3x weekly summer-seasonal, then I have a very hard time believing that CVG could be ran year-round on Frontier. And I have pretty much 0% confidence that Alaska will do anything with it.

Though, regardless on who ends up starting the route (at this point it's not really a matter of if, but when it will start), I'm glad to hear that CVG is willing to fight for this route to happen in the near future and I hope that something positive will eventually come from it.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:24 pm
by nmraja
What's the best way to contact DL or PoP to suggest routes or for queries? I couldn't find a direct option with DL and don't see any email address related to this. If anyone has one, and can share, will be appreciated. Thanks. :)

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:33 pm
by bigfoot0503
FA9295 wrote:
bigfoot0503 wrote:
Following the information that FA9295 had supplied regarding the Cincinnati Airport CEO stating that PDX non-stop flights were a priority for that airport I sent an email to the CVG Airport Administration outlining some of my observations and expressed my support of their efforts, this was the reply I received:

"Thank you for your e-mail concerning potential CVG-PDX service. This market is a key priority for us and we are working with Delta and many other carriers to gain future nonstop service between CVG and PDX. Thank you for your comments and use of CVG. Hopefully we can make this happen in the next 12 to 18 months"
Regards,
Bobby
Bobby L. Spann – Vice President, External Affairs


I was rather impressed with the quick reply I received (1 day) and from whom I received it. I can't really state with confidence that some of my past inquiries with the Port of Portland have been addressed as quickly and seemingly by someone who clearly has input into the decision making process at such a high level as this gentlemen does. If anyone cares to lobby or express your thoughts on the efforts of CVG to PDX non-stops I have included the email of Mr. Spann herein. My only hope is that if indeed we do witness a service addition that it not be Frontier...sorry folks, not really a fan of what they have done here at PDX and elsewhere and frankly the logical air carrier to resume this non-stop route would be Delta.

[email protected]

Wow! That's great to hear! I agree that I would MUCH rather have Delta provide the route ahead of Frontier. Even though Frontier would probably be cheaper to fly on, I would suspect that they would only perform a few flights a week on a summer-seasonal basis. Delta would probably be more inclined to run the route daily (although probably only summer-seasonal to start out with). Also, a Frontier flight would probably be a red-eye departure from PDX while Delta would have more flexibility on what time of day to schedule the route on, since they have a significantly larger fleet than Frontier does.

Unfortunately, I feel as though Frontier would be more likely to start the route since they seem to have a "dartboard approach" (if you will) to planning and starting new routes. They dont seem to be too afraid to test out new markets. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Delta only runs SEA-CVG on a summer-seasonal basis; so with that being said, I would only guess that Delta would want to upgrade that route to year-round service first. If Frontier could make the route work year-round, I think it would be well worth it, but if CLE is only 3x weekly summer-seasonal, then I have a very hard time believing that CVG could be ran year-round on Frontier. And I have pretty much 0% confidence that Alaska will do anything with it.

Though, regardless on who ends up starting the route (at this point it's not really a matter of if, but when it will start), I'm glad to hear that CVG is willing to fight for this route to happen in the near future and I hope that something positive will eventually come from it.


I just don't see Frontier trying to make this route happen. Delta (of late) has been re-energizing it's operations in Cincinnati with the addition of AUS, upgauging of DEN and starting this fall I believe service to Phoenix. I also believe there is more of a "historical" basis to this route that Delta wouldn't simply be "testing the waters" as they previously flew non-stop CVG-PDX, granted I understand that at the time of those non-stops the conditions and circumstances were far different when CVG was a hub for Delta. If this route were to come to fruition I do agree that a summer seasonal would be the likely flight that we would see.

Yes you are correct...the CVG-SEA flight looks to be seasonal at this time, operating in the summer months as of now. There are obviously many aspects that go into the consideration of starting a new route, I do wonder if Delta may look at any sort of feed through PDX for the Tokyo NRT flight. Now before I draw the ire and scorn of those reading this please consider for a moment that in my travels on Delta to and from PDX to NRT I've met a number of travelers who were coming back from Tokyo connecting in Portland and going to destinations like CVG (obvioulsy a routing such as NRT-PDX-SLC-CVG). So it does beg the question that with some appropriately timed flights that one could conceivably "connect" at PDX to Tokyo if traveling on a non-stop to or from Cincinnati. Other things to consider are the eventual integration of the Airbus A220 into the Delta fleet and how that may or may not influence new route opportunities for PDX.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:49 pm
by bigfoot0503
nmraja wrote:
What's the best way to contact DL or PoP to suggest routes or for queries? I couldn't find a direct option with DL and don't see any email address related to this. If anyone has one, and can share, will be appreciated. Thanks. :)


Great question...I think more of us should be doing exactly what you are suggesting when it comes to advocating for new routes out of PDX. That being said I'll be honest with you I've not had a huge level of success in contacting the Port of Portland and getting a response. I've used Twitter before and from time to time the PoP responds in that manner, but not with any degree of substance. I would suggest starting with this email for the Port of Portland:
[email protected]

As for Delta sometimes it's hit or miss...I am a Silver Medallion with them and have had more success talking with the SkyMiles reps on the phone and having them advocate or "pass along" suggestions. There is an email format that you can follow which allows some free form to express your ideas or suggestions. To draw some real focus to an idea I would suggest an all out "barrage"...that is email, telephone and social media.

http://www.delta.com/contactus/commentComplaint

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:02 pm
by Midwestindy
According to some people from SEA at AS, PDX-IND is in the works for 2019. PDX is the largest unserved market from IND. There are many Business synergies between the two cities so a nonstop would make sense.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:09 pm
by FA9295
Midwestindy wrote:
According to some people from SEA at AS, PDX-IND is in the works for 2019. PDX is the largest unserved market from IND. There are many Business synergies between the two cities so a nonstop would make sense.

Yeah, I saw somebody mention that on the Indy thread not too long ago. I wonder if the E175 could make the distance on this route. I'd like to see an A320/B737, but I'm not sure if the PDEW numbers are there for that...

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:29 pm
by RWA380
pdxswa wrote:
After having dropped off Barcelona FC. IBE 2880 is heading back to BCN.


As always, thank you for the great images out at PDX!

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:41 pm
by flyoregon
bigfoot0503 wrote:
nmraja wrote:
What's the best way to contact DL or PoP to suggest routes or for queries? I couldn't find a direct option with DL and don't see any email address related to this. If anyone has one, and can share, will be appreciated. Thanks. :)


Great question...I think more of us should be doing exactly what you are suggesting when it comes to advocating for new routes out of PDX. That being said I'll be honest with you I've not had a huge level of success in contacting the Port of Portland and getting a response. I've used Twitter before and from time to time the PoP responds in that manner, but not with any degree of substance. I would suggest starting with this email for the Port of Portland:
[email protected]

As for Delta sometimes it's hit or miss...I am a Silver Medallion with them and have had more success talking with the SkyMiles reps on the phone and having them advocate or "pass along" suggestions. There is an email format that you can follow which allows some free form to express your ideas or suggestions. To draw some real focus to an idea I would suggest an all out "barrage"...that is email, telephone and social media.

http://www.delta.com/contactus/commentComplaint


Try [email protected]

He's the Manager of Air Service Development at the Port of Portland.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:17 am
by pdx
flyoregon wrote:
bigfoot0503 wrote:
nmraja wrote:
What's the best way to contact DL or PoP to suggest routes or for queries? I couldn't find a direct option with DL and don't see any email address related to this. If anyone has one, and can share, will be appreciated. Thanks. :)


Great question...I think more of us should be doing exactly what you are suggesting when it comes to advocating for new routes out of PDX. That being said I'll be honest with you I've not had a huge level of success in contacting the Port of Portland and getting a response. I've used Twitter before and from time to time the PoP responds in that manner, but not with any degree of substance. I would suggest starting with this email for the Port of Portland:
[email protected]

As for Delta sometimes it's hit or miss...I am a Silver Medallion with them and have had more success talking with the SkyMiles reps on the phone and having them advocate or "pass along" suggestions. There is an email format that you can follow which allows some free form to express your ideas or suggestions. To draw some real focus to an idea I would suggest an all out "barrage"...that is email, telephone and social media.

http://www.delta.com/contactus/commentComplaint


Try [email protected]

David Zielke (for those who don't know) was the District Sales Manager for DL when they had their hub at PDX. Not sure how successful
our Int'l Air Service Committee is, but I think he has probably helped us gain DL service. DL has shown some love to PDX ever since
their hub was located here. It would be interesting to know how many people connect to our NRT flight. There has to be some (in the summer)
since there are nonstop flights from 7 cities (JFK, ATL, DTW, SLC, SEA, LAX, MSP) that connect to it. I find it odd that CVG wants a PDX
flight, yet SEA can't justify a year-round one? I'm surprised AS hasn't started SEA-CVG. I hope DL restarts PDX-CVG. It could be another
connection to NRT. I think DL does consider PDX important. It's amazing how many flights they add in the summer!

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:53 pm
by bigfoot0503
pdx wrote:
flyoregon wrote:
bigfoot0503 wrote:

Great question...I think more of us should be doing exactly what you are suggesting when it comes to advocating for new routes out of PDX. That being said I'll be honest with you I've not had a huge level of success in contacting the Port of Portland and getting a response. I've used Twitter before and from time to time the PoP responds in that manner, but not with any degree of substance. I would suggest starting with this email for the Port of Portland:
[email protected]

As for Delta sometimes it's hit or miss...I am a Silver Medallion with them and have had more success talking with the SkyMiles reps on the phone and having them advocate or "pass along" suggestions. There is an email format that you can follow which allows some free form to express your ideas or suggestions. To draw some real focus to an idea I would suggest an all out "barrage"...that is email, telephone and social media.

http://www.delta.com/contactus/commentComplaint


Try [email protected]

David Zielke (for those who don't know) was the District Sales Manager for DL when they had their hub at PDX. Not sure how successful
our Int'l Air Service Committee is, but I think he has probably helped us gain DL service. DL has shown some love to PDX ever since
their hub was located here. It would be interesting to know how many people connect to our NRT flight. There has to be some (in the summer)
since there are nonstop flights from 7 cities (JFK, ATL, DTW, SLC, SEA, LAX, MSP) that connect to it. I find it odd that CVG wants a PDX
flight, yet SEA can't justify a year-round one? I'm surprised AS hasn't started SEA-CVG. I hope DL restarts PDX-CVG. It could be another
connection to NRT. I think DL does consider PDX important. It's amazing how many flights they add in the summer!


I would agree...Delta has shown PDX some love, perhaps Mr. Zielke has a role in that? I know it was mentioned that AS is looking at PDX-IND...and any new service would be ideal.

Frankly the Cincinnati (Dayton), Indianapolis and Louisville areas all represent a missing "geographic piece of the PDX framework" when one looks at non-stop flights available from our city. I do get the sense there is some legitimate "traction" here with the efforts of the CVG Airport administration leading the way.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:53 pm
by FA9295
BNA has up to 4 flights a day to SEA. PDX should be able to have at least 1...

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:14 pm
by bigfoot0503
FA9295 wrote:
BNA has up to 4 flights a day to SEA. PDX should be able to have at least 1...


I would clearly include Nashville with the geographic group I highlighted previously...the lack of that non-stop from PDX still confounds me.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:58 pm
by rosecityspotter
bigfoot0503 wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
BNA has up to 4 flights a day to SEA. PDX should be able to have at least 1...


I would clearly include Nashville with the geographic group I highlighted previously...the lack of that non-stop from PDX still confounds me.


Unless I’m confused, hasn’t Alaska done seasonal nonstop to BNA in the past or am I losing my mind? Haha. I’m quite honestly surprised there isn’t at least one or two flights to Nashville a day.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:01 pm
by FA9295
rosecityspotter wrote:
bigfoot0503 wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
BNA has up to 4 flights a day to SEA. PDX should be able to have at least 1...


I would clearly include Nashville with the geographic group I highlighted previously...the lack of that non-stop from PDX still confounds me.


Unless I’m confused, hasn’t Alaska done seasonal nonstop to BNA in the past or am I losing my mind? Haha. I’m quite honestly surprised there isn’t at least one or two flights to Nashville a day.

I'm pretty sure that PDX-BNA has never operated before. Alaska has a second daily SEA-BNA flight that is seasonal, though.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:44 pm
by PDX757
FA9295 wrote:
rosecityspotter wrote:
bigfoot0503 wrote:

I would clearly include Nashville with the geographic group I highlighted previously...the lack of that non-stop from PDX still confounds me.


Unless I’m confused, hasn’t Alaska done seasonal nonstop to BNA in the past or am I losing my mind? Haha. I’m quite honestly surprised there isn’t at least one or two flights to Nashville a day.

I'm pretty sure that PDX-BNA has never operated before. Alaska has a second daily SEA-BNA flight that is seasonal, though.


Didn’t NW operate BNA-PDX back in the day?

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:40 pm
by kwbl
I believe NW operated PDX-MEM for a brief time when they had their hub

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:43 pm
by FA9295
It looks like AS is cutting SFO-IND in September. Not surprised since I've been hearing that the LF % was fairly poor on that route. IDK if that means anything positive or negative for a possible PDX-IND route in the near future...

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:54 pm
by zackary747
FA9295 wrote:
It looks like AS is cutting SFO-IND in September. Not surprised since I've been hearing that the LF % was fairly poor on that route. IDK if that means anything positive or negative for a possible PDX-IND route in the near future...


I feel like that is only the beginning of the Alaska SFO cuts. UA is just too protective of that hub. I wouldn't be surprised if the current/future cuts are transferred with starts at SAN and/or PDX. BNA and RDU had the same bad loads and MCI had it worse. So, I expect it to be a long cutting drag out of SFO for AS.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:21 am
by pdxav8r
zackary747 wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
It looks like AS is cutting SFO-IND in September. Not surprised since I've been hearing that the LF % was fairly poor on that route. IDK if that means anything positive or negative for a possible PDX-IND route in the near future...


I feel like that is only the beginning of the Alaska SFO cuts. UA is just too protective of that hub. I wouldn't be surprised if the current/future cuts are transferred with starts at SAN and/or PDX. BNA and RDU had the same bad loads and MCI had it worse. So, I expect it to be a long cutting drag out of SFO for AS.


Agreed. AS bought into SFO, and will pick its battles from here on out. Obviously they wanted to test the waters before making changes. A ton of analysis needed, especially with a blended fleet, and how the blended fleet competes with the other carriers at SFO. I’m sure AS knew it would be a dogfight. Will be interesting to see which wars they wish to wage, and like these cuts, those they are willing to cede.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:42 am
by WolfPDX
Something odd to note. AS has been using a 321neo rather often on AS1809 sfo-pdx. Kinda interesting that their using a 321neo on short flights and not cross country flights to the east coast.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:45 am
by PDX757
WolfPDX wrote:
Something odd to note. AS has been using a 321neo rather often on AS1809 sfo-pdx. Kinda interesting that their using a 321neo on short flights and not cross country flights to the east coast.


The Airbii are on lease while the 73s are owned. Makes sense to put the most cycles on the leased AC if you ask me.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:21 am
by FA9295
WolfPDX wrote:
Something odd to note. AS has been using a 321neo rather often on AS1809 sfo-pdx. Kinda interesting that their using a 321neo on short flights and not cross country flights to the east coast.

I've seen the A321neo on SEA-PDX-SEA routing recently. I assume that they're operating their 321s on shorter routes to fill in the gap in between transcon flight times.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:25 am
by zackary747
FA9295 wrote:
WolfPDX wrote:
Something odd to note. AS has been using a 321neo rather often on AS1809 sfo-pdx. Kinda interesting that their using a 321neo on short flights and not cross country flights to the east coast.

I've seen the A321neo on SEA-PDX-SEA routing recently. I assume that they're operating their 321s on shorter routes to fill in the gap in between transcon flight times.


Funny thing is they used the 321NEO on SFO-IND yesterday. I wonder how empty that flight was.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:51 am
by pdxswa
Dreamflight767 wrote:
Amazing. Thank you.

You’re very welcome ☺️

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:53 am
by pdxswa
RWA380 wrote:
pdxswa wrote:
After having dropped off Barcelona FC. IBE 2880 is heading back to BCN.


As always, thank you for the great images out at PDX!

You’re very welcome ! thank you !

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:05 pm
by FA9295
Quite a bit of activity this week!

OAG 8/5/2018:
AA CLT-PDX NOV 1.8>1.3[1.6]
AA LAX-PDX NOV 3>4[3]
AA ORD-PDX NOV 2>1.8[1.2]

AS PDX-FAT NOV 1.0>1.9[1.0] DEC 1.0>1.9[1.0]
AS PDX-LIH MAR 0.7>1.0[0.9] APR 0.6>1.0[1.0] MAY 0.6>1.0[0.6]
AS PDX-MSO NOV 1.0>1.4[0.9] DEC 1.0>1.5[0.5]
AS PDX-RNO NOV 2>3[2] DEC 2>3[2]
AS PDX-SLC DEC 2>3[2]
AS PDX-STS NOV 2>1.1[1.0] DEC 2>1.0[1.0]
AS PDX-TUS NOV 0.9>0.7[0.9]
AS SEA-PDX NOV 13>11[12] DEC 13>10[11]

B6 JFK-PDX OCT 0.8>0.6[0.8]

DL MSP-PDX MAR 2>1.9[1.7]

Notes:

- AA adds a 4th daily LAX-PDX flight starting in November.
- AS adds a 2nd daily PDX-FAT and PDX-MSO flight starting in November.
- AS converts winter PDX-LIH to daily.
- AS adds a 3rd daily PDX-RNO flight starting in November. (wanting to go head to head with SY...?)
- AS PDX-SEA capacity is reduced.
- AS adds a 3rd daily PDX-SLC flight starting in December.
- AS PDX-TUS capacity is reduced (but will now be year-round instead of just winter seasonal).
- B6 continues to reduce JFK-PDX capacity.
- DL reduces MSP-PDX capacity.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:16 pm
by pdxav8r
- DL reduces MSP-PDX capacity.

Looks like DL reduced what they were originally planning on offering, but actually up YOY.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:49 am
by PDX757
I thought QX had a lot more Pdx-sea

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:57 am
by lhpdx
PDX757 wrote:
I thought QX had a lot more Pdx-sea



AS PDX-SEA NOV 25>21[23] DEC 25>20[22] JAN 26>25[24] It does...This is the corrected posting......

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:19 am
by PDX757
lhpdx wrote:
PDX757 wrote:
I thought QX had a lot more Pdx-sea



AS PDX-SEA NOV 25>21[23] DEC 25>20[22] JAN 26>25[24] It does...This is the corrected posting......


Very good. I see AS has a lot more mainline than they used to to SEA. Got to feed SEA I guess...

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:47 pm
by flyfresno
FA9295 wrote:
Quite a bit of activity this week!
OAG 8/5/2018:
AS PDX-FAT NOV 1.0>1.9[1.0] DEC 1.0>1.9[1.0]
Notes:
- AS adds a 2nd daily PDX-FAT and PDX-MSO flight starting in November.


This was tried a couple summers ago and then did not return. I am surprised they are starting it in the fall rather than summer; they must have quite a bit of confidence that it will succeed. The major differences between then and now is that now it will be operated on an E-175 (vs a Q400 then), and now it will operate as an evening turn (vs a RON with an early morning departure then). AS will now have three departures (SEA, PDX, SAN) leaving within about an hour of each-other in the evening, so it will be interesting to see if there is a demand for that level of service, especially considering that the PDX flight does not provide many additional connection options over SEA.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:09 pm
by FA9295
lhpdx wrote:
PDX757 wrote:
I thought QX had a lot more Pdx-sea



AS PDX-SEA NOV 25>21[23] DEC 25>20[22] JAN 26>25[24] It does...This is the corrected posting......

Sorry about that! I must have posted something from a different route by accident...

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:11 pm
by FA9295
On a separate note, AS recently updated their summer schedule, and ATL, BWI, MKE, OMA and PHL are all set to resume on June 5, 2019.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:38 pm
by ooslc
FA9295 wrote:
lhpdx wrote:
PDX757 wrote:
I thought QX had a lot more Pdx-sea



AS PDX-SEA NOV 25>21[23] DEC 25>20[22] JAN 26>25[24] It does...This is the corrected posting......

Sorry about that! I must have posted something from a different route by accident...


Nope, it was a mistake on the OAG thread but was fixed, so you posted the right thing.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:17 am
by lhpdx
On September 15, 2018 Alaska is discontinuing it's PDX-Sun Valley, ID market....

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:48 am
by PDX757
lhpdx wrote:
On September 15, 2018 Alaska is discontinuing it's PDX-Sun Valley, ID market....

Ending a few months before ski season too. Probably won’t be back.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:48 am
by PDX757
lhpdx wrote:
On September 15, 2018 Alaska is discontinuing it's PDX-Sun Valley, ID market....

Ending a few months before ski season too. Hopefully this is just because of the pilot shortage and not due to low yields.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:11 am
by FA9295
lhpdx wrote:
On September 15, 2018 Alaska is discontinuing it's PDX-Sun Valley, ID market....

No surprise here. This route was started on federal grants, so the money must have ran out... (similar to the SJC-EUG situation).

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:42 am
by Chugach
Some interesting approach paths into PDX tonight. Check out FlightAware or Flightradar24.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:56 am
by WolfPDX
Chugach wrote:
Some interesting approach paths into PDX tonight. Check out FlightAware or Flightradar24.

That is due to the north runway(28R/10L) being closed till September 7th.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:44 pm
by PDX757
Just caught glimpse of a landing Canadian Air Force A310 from my work. Any ideas who’s coming to town?

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:59 pm
by lhpdx
I was wondering what that was...I caught it from the window of my house a few minutes ago..........

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:28 am
by PDX757
lhpdx wrote:
I was wondering what that was...I caught it from the window of my house a few minutes ago..........


I may take marine dr home and see if it’s sitting on the north ramp. Seems something like that would be better at the ANG base?

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:09 am
by FA9295
PDX757 wrote:
Just caught glimpse of a landing Canadian Air Force A310 from my work. Any ideas who’s coming to town?

Were you able to catch the aircraft's registration by chance? If so, you can always just search that up on flightaware...

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:09 am
by WolfPDX
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FA9295 wrote:
PDX757 wrote:
Just caught glimpse of a landing Canadian Air Force A310 from my work. Any ideas who’s coming to town?

Were you able to catch the aircraft's registration by chance? If so, you can always just search that up on flightaware...

Tail reg is 15001.
https://ibb.co/bXKKJ9

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:19 pm
by nmraja
bigfoot0503 wrote:
nmraja wrote:
What's the best way to contact DL or PoP to suggest routes or for queries? I couldn't find a direct option with DL and don't see any email address related to this. If anyone has one, and can share, will be appreciated. Thanks. :)


Great question...I think more of us should be doing exactly what you are suggesting when it comes to advocating for new routes out of PDX. That being said I'll be honest with you I've not had a huge level of success in contacting the Port of Portland and getting a response. I've used Twitter before and from time to time the PoP responds in that manner, but not with any degree of substance. I would suggest starting with this email for the Port of Portland:
[email protected]

As for Delta sometimes it's hit or miss...I am a Silver Medallion with them and have had more success talking with the SkyMiles reps on the phone and having them advocate or "pass along" suggestions. There is an email format that you can follow which allows some free form to express your ideas or suggestions. To draw some real focus to an idea I would suggest an all out "barrage"...that is email, telephone and social media.

http://www.delta.com/contactus/commentComplaint


Thanks for the response and details.

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:09 pm
by metaldirtnskin
737 MAX 7 visits EUG - not an ideal angle but the best I could do:
Image

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:31 am
by pdxav8r
metaldirtnskin wrote:
737 MAX 7 visits EUG - not an ideal angle but the best I could do:
Image


Thanks, regardless of the angle. Wish more people posted shots of airports, other than just PDX. Good shot anyway, bring it on!