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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:45 am

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Following the information that FA9295 had supplied regarding the Cincinnati Airport CEO stating that PDX non-stop flights were a priority for that airport I sent an email to the CVG Airport Administration outlining some of my observations and expressed my support of their efforts, this was the reply I received:

"Thank you for your e-mail concerning potential CVG-PDX service. This market is a key priority for us and we are working with Delta and many other carriers to gain future nonstop service between CVG and PDX. Thank you for your comments and use of CVG. Hopefully we can make this happen in the next 12 to 18 months"
Regards,
Bobby
Bobby L. Spann – Vice President, External Affairs


I was rather impressed with the quick reply I received (1 day) and from whom I received it. I can't really state with confidence that some of my past inquiries with the Port of Portland have been addressed as quickly and seemingly by someone who clearly has input into the decision making process at such a high level as this gentlemen does. If anyone cares to lobby or express your thoughts on the efforts of CVG to PDX non-stops I have included the email of Mr. Spann herein. My only hope is that if indeed we do witness a service addition that it not be Frontier...sorry folks, not really a fan of what they have done here at PDX and elsewhere and frankly the logical air carrier to resume this non-stop route would be Delta.

[email protected]


Back when CVG was a huge hub, and Pa TPAC gateway for DL, I used to fly from CVG to PDX on an MD-11.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:25 pm

OAG 8/12/2018:

AA DFW-PDX JAN 5>4[3] FEB 5>4[3]
DL PDX-SEA JAN 6>7[6] FEB 6>7[6]
F9 DEN-PDX NOV 0.8>1.6[1.6] DEC 0>1.4[1.0] JAN 0>1.4[1.0] FEB 0>0.7[1.0]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:47 am

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metaldirtnskin wrote:
737 MAX 7 visits EUG - not an ideal angle but the best I could do:
Image


Thanks, regardless of the angle. Wish more people posted shots of airports, other than just PDX. Good shot anyway, bring it on!


Great shot & I love seeing shots from alternate Oregon airports too, not that our contributors from PDX aren't fully appreciated. That little 737 would be perfect for EUG-HNL or EUG-JFK. dreaming.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:52 am

OAG this week:

AA DFW-PDX JAN 5>4[3] FEB 5>4[3]

DL PDX-SEA JAN 6>7[6] FEB 6>7[6]

F9 DEN-PDX NOV 0.8>1.6[1.6] DEC 0>1.4[1.0] JAN 0>1.4[1.0] FEB 0>0.7[1.0]
707 717 720 727-1/2 737-1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 747-1/2/3/4 757-2/3 767-2/3/4 777-2/3 DC8 DC9 MD80/2/7/8 D10-1/3/4 M11 L10-1/2/5 A300/310/320
AA AC AQ AS BA BD BN CO CS DL EA EZ HA HG HP KL KN MP MW NK NW OZ PA PS QX RC RH RW SA TG TW UA US VS WA WC WN WP YS 8M
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:14 pm

HA25 PDX-HNL was delayed for almost 17 hours yesterday; left PDX at 1:35 AM: https://www.google.com/search?q=Hawaiia ... e&ie=UTF-8

Ouch! Definitely not a good way to start off a Hawaiian vacation... :?
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:53 pm

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HA25 PDX-HNL was delayed for almost 17 hours yesterday; left PDX at 1:35 AM: https://www.google.com/search?q=Hawaiia ... e&ie=UTF-8

Ouch! Definitely not a good way to start off a Hawaiian vacation... :?


Hawaiian seems to have some teething problems with theur a321s. A couple long delays this year so far.
    Ironically, I don't work for OO anymore, and I'm not in SLC anymore. PDX based, aviation enthusiast, non-aviation worker.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:26 am

ooslc wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
HA25 PDX-HNL was delayed for almost 17 hours yesterday; left PDX at 1:35 AM: https://www.google.com/search?q=Hawaiia ... e&ie=UTF-8

Ouch! Definitely not a good way to start off a Hawaiian vacation... :?


Hawaiian seems to have some teething problems with theur a321s. A couple long delays this year so far.

I know Alaska has had some issues with the neo engines after they picked up them up from virgin that has lead to a few cancellations. I wonder if their also having those same issues
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:03 pm

A very nice visitor to PDX
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:51 pm

Here’s a proper shot of the RCAF Polaris arriving !
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:53 pm

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Here’s a proper shot of the RCAF Polaris arriving !


Great shot Bill! Any idea as to what the aircraft was at PDX for??
 
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Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:55 am

Honestly, PDXswa, I enjoy all of your shared PDX photos....
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:57 am

Not sure why ! I do know the RCAF throughly enjoys the service at Atlantic. Which is the best and Pdx is a great place to stop over.
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pdxswa wrote:
Here’s a proper shot of the RCAF Polaris arriving !


Great shot Bill! Any idea as to what the aircraft was at PDX for??
 
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Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:57 am

Thank you very much
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Honestly, PDXswa, I enjoy all of your shared PDX photos....
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:27 am

For the past couple days, Hawaiian's HNL-PDX-HNL has been on the A330 again. Oddly enough, when I look at the seat map for tomorrow's PDX-HNL flight, the seat map looks substantially full...
 
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Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:34 am

I hear a buzz around from the Port of Portland folks that is sounds like NCA (Nippon Cargo Airlines) will be starting freighter service to PDX. If this is true, what a great addition. I do know for certain that the Port's air recruiting people did a proposal for service with ANA which owns NCA to start cargo service. From some reports I have seen, air cargo is rebounding quite good.

I also talked to someone else who told me the presentation quoted the US Bureau of Census for freight. PDX ships 33 1/2 tons of goods to Asia a year compared to SEA shipping 32 1/2 tons. The export numbers are equal to Japan. So it appears that PDX could handle additional freighter service for exports.
 
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Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:41 am

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I hear a buzz around from the Port of Portland folks that is sounds like NCA (Nippon Cargo Airlines) will be starting freighter service to PDX. If this is true, what a great addition. I do know for certain that the Port's air recruiting people did a proposal for service with ANA which owns NCA to start cargo service. From some reports I have seen, air cargo is rebounding quite good.

I also talked to someone else who told me the presentation quoted the US Bureau of Census for freight. PDX ships 33 1/2 tons of goods to Asia a year compared to SEA shipping 32 1/2 tons. The export numbers are equal to Japan. So it appears that PDX could handle additional freighter service for exports.

When I was the team lead for the ground handling crew for CX. The idea was they were going to start up doing cherries during the season and maybe continue afterwards. I was guessing that it got nicked when nca decided to ground and recheck all of their 747s due to a fault in maintenance records. It would be nice to see them start up here however.
 
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Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:46 am

WolfPDX wrote:
PDXPOL wrote:
I hear a buzz around from the Port of Portland folks that is sounds like NCA (Nippon Cargo Airlines) will be starting freighter service to PDX. If this is true, what a great addition. I do know for certain that the Port's air recruiting people did a proposal for service with ANA which owns NCA to start cargo service. From some reports I have seen, air cargo is rebounding quite good.

I also talked to someone else who told me the presentation quoted the US Bureau of Census for freight. PDX ships 33 1/2 tons of goods to Asia a year compared to SEA shipping 32 1/2 tons. The export numbers are equal to Japan. So it appears that PDX could handle additional freighter service for exports.

When I was the team lead for the ground handling crew for CX. The idea was they were going to start up doing cherries during the season and maybe continue afterwards. I was guessing that it got nicked when nca decided to ground and recheck all of their 747s due to a fault in maintenance records. It would be nice to see them start up here however.

I'm presuming that this would contain cargo service to NRT via ANC?
 
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Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:50 am

FA9295 wrote:
WolfPDX wrote:
PDXPOL wrote:
I hear a buzz around from the Port of Portland folks that is sounds like NCA (Nippon Cargo Airlines) will be starting freighter service to PDX. If this is true, what a great addition. I do know for certain that the Port's air recruiting people did a proposal for service with ANA which owns NCA to start cargo service. From some reports I have seen, air cargo is rebounding quite good.

I also talked to someone else who told me the presentation quoted the US Bureau of Census for freight. PDX ships 33 1/2 tons of goods to Asia a year compared to SEA shipping 32 1/2 tons. The export numbers are equal to Japan. So it appears that PDX could handle additional freighter service for exports.

When I was the team lead for the ground handling crew for CX. The idea was they were going to start up doing cherries during the season and maybe continue afterwards. I was guessing that it got nicked when nca decided to ground and recheck all of their 747s due to a fault in maintenance records. It would be nice to see them start up here however.

I'm presuming that this would contain cargo service to NRT via ANC?

If I recall it would go NRT direct if loads would allow enough fuel for but would otherwise do ANC.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:16 pm

PDXPOL wrote:
I hear a buzz around from the Port of Portland folks that is sounds like NCA (Nippon Cargo Airlines) will be starting freighter service to PDX. If this is true, what a great addition. I do know for certain that the Port's air recruiting people did a proposal for service with ANA which owns NCA to start cargo service. From some reports I have seen, air cargo is rebounding quite good.

I also talked to someone else who told me the presentation quoted the US Bureau of Census for freight. PDX ships 33 1/2 tons of goods to Asia a year compared to SEA shipping 32 1/2 tons. The export numbers are equal to Japan. So it appears that PDX could handle additional freighter service for exports.


That's excellent news if it indeed comes to fruition. It appears that air cargo ops at PDX are rather robust of late. All of the carriers seem to indicate an increase in cargo volumes. One factual piece of this is that this summer I've noted UPS bringing in far more MD-11's and in particular every Friday (minus a few occasions) UPS has been using a 747 on their SDF-PDX-ANC route (UPS 2998).
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:48 pm

OAG 8/19/2018:

AA CLT-PDX DEC 1.9>1.5[1.8]
AA ORD-PDX DEC 2>1.9[1.5]

AS OAK-PDX JAN 3>2[2] FEB 3>2[2]
AS PDX-PSP JAN 1.4>2[1.1] FEB 1.3>2[1.3] MAR 1.3>2[1.8] APR 1.3>2[2]
AS PDX-RNO JAN 2>3[3] FEB 2>3[2] MAR 2>3[2] APR 2>3[3] MAY 2>3[3]
AS PDX-TUS JAN 1.0>1.8[1.0] FEB 1.0>2[1.0] MAR 1.0>1.3[1.0]

DL ATL-PDX MAR 4>3[3]
DL DTW-PDX MAR 1.5>1.0[1.0]

NK LAS-PDX FEB 0.9>2[1.0] MAR 0>2[1.0] APR 0>2[1.6]

UA IAD-PDX JAN 1.0>0.2[0.2] FEB 1.0>0[0] MAR 1.0>0.8[0.7]
UA IAH-PDX JAN 3>2[2]
UA ORD-PDX JAN 4>3[3]
UA RDM-SFO JAN 5>4[4]


- UA is suspending IAD-PDX in the winter again.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:18 pm

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For the past couple days, Hawaiian's HNL-PDX-HNL has been on the A330 again. Oddly enough, when I look at the seat map for tomorrow's PDX-HNL flight, the seat map looks substantially full...


Looks like it goes back the the 321N tomorrow. Probably end of summer rush before school starts back up.
 
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Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:46 am

 
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Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:38 am

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Indeed it is. Sorry was on a flight. Couldn't stop my flight to run and get my camera like some people.
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Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:34 pm

Well, since BA announced LHR-PIT, DL is now going to end CDG-PIT.

In essence, I'm sure Delta wouldn't be very thrilled to have Europe competition at PDX, and if BA were to ever end up in PDX somehow, I'm sure that Delta would pull their LHR flight and maybe even reduce AMS as well...
 
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Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:01 pm

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Well, since BA announced LHR-PIT, DL is now going to end CDG-PIT.

In essence, I'm sure Delta wouldn't be very thrilled to have Europe competition at PDX, and if BA were to ever end up in PDX somehow, I'm sure that Delta would pull their LHR flight and maybe even reduce AMS as well...


My hope is that Delta can sense competition arriving and try to fight them off before they even make a move. It would definitely suck to see Delta reduce the international flights they have now. We have such a good thing going for us right now; NRT, AMS, and LHR. It'd be great to see LHR increase service and maybe add some CDG frequency also.
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Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:42 am

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I wonder if it is possible that HA is purposing these aircraft through PDX for maintenance. HA has a large third party contractor for aircraft maintenance. There operation is located over off AirTrans in one of the cargo facility buildings. The operator has informed the Port they are expanding and need more room. From my understanding is the Port is re-evaluating the cargo complex, with new buildings and parking redesign.

Anyway, perhaps HA is using PDX for certain maintenance checks on their aircraft and cycles them through. I would imaging it is cheaper operating here than Hawaii.
 
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Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:53 am

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I wonder if it is possible that HA is purposing these aircraft through PDX for maintenance. HA has a large third party contractor for aircraft maintenance. There operation is located over off AirTrans in one of the cargo facility buildings. The operator has informed the Port they are expanding and need more room. From my understanding is the Port is re-evaluating the cargo complex, with new buildings and parking redesign.

Anyway, perhaps HA is using PDX for certain maintenance checks on their aircraft and cycles them through. I would imaging it is cheaper operating here than Hawaii.


With Hurricane Lane approaching, they are more likely putting larger aircraft on west-coast bound flights to get people out.
 
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Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:21 am

In town for a week to fight with the 123rd. First time for F-35s here at Pdx.
 
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Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:24 am

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PDXPOL wrote:
FA9295 wrote:



I wonder if it is possible that HA is purposing these aircraft through PDX for maintenance. HA has a large third party contractor for aircraft maintenance. There operation is located over off AirTrans in one of the cargo facility buildings. The operator has informed the Port they are expanding and need more room. From my understanding is the Port is re-evaluating the cargo complex, with new buildings and parking redesign.

Anyway, perhaps HA is using PDX for certain maintenance checks on their aircraft and cycles them through. I would imaging it is cheaper operating here than Hawaii.


With Hurricane Lane approaching, they are more likely putting larger aircraft on west-coast bound flights to get people out.


You are correct, HA is upgauging certain flights out of HNL or OGG that they can. I'd expect some LIH-Mainland flights to follow, for those that want to leave. IIRC, HA does 767 maintenance in PHX. I only remember reading that on A.net in a long dead thread about the 767 fleet. Someone from HA implied that PHX would likely be the last 767 destination in the system because of the maintenance.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:09 am

New route/market announcements from Alaska are coming soon:

https://twitter.com/AlaskaAir/status/10 ... 8506690561
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1402225


Let's hope that PDX is in the mix somewhere....

Edit: I'm pretty skeptical about this. If BWI and PHL cannot work year-round, then I can't see some of PDX's top unserved markets, such as TPA, RDU, IND, BNA and MSY working...
 
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Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:31 am

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New route/market announcements from Alaska are coming soon:

https://twitter.com/AlaskaAir/status/10 ... 8506690561
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1402225


Let's hope that PDX is in the mix somewhere....

Edit: I'm pretty skeptical about this. If BWI and PHL cannot work year-round, then I can't see some of PDX's top unserved markets, such as TPA, RDU, IND, BNA and MSY working...


Looking at the numbers (which I posted in that thread), MSY was the largest unserved route in Q1 and was about the same size market as PHL for that quarter, and obviously shorter a shorter route so it's not out of the question. Those other routes do a bit better in the summer but don't have the numbers to work in the winter. AS has a pretty evenly spread schedule next year with a SEA RON, early afternoon SEA turn and late afternoon SFO turn, so they easily have room to add a flight or two and get a signatory rate for the gate.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:33 am

FA9295 wrote:
New route/market announcements from Alaska are coming soon:

https://twitter.com/AlaskaAir/status/10 ... 8506690561
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1402225


Let's hope that PDX is in the mix somewhere....

Edit: I'm pretty skeptical about this. If BWI and PHL cannot work year-round, then I can't see some of PDX's top unserved markets, such as TPA, RDU, IND, BNA and MSY working...


I can see those routes working as a summer seasonal. I don't know if IND-PDX would work during the winter as IND-SEA needs as many PDX connecting passengers as possible, but I can see IND-PDX and IND-SEA co-existing in the summer at the very least.

Also does PHL and BWI have more competition? That has to be considered as well.
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Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:54 am

zackary747 wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
New route/market announcements from Alaska are coming soon:

https://twitter.com/AlaskaAir/status/10 ... 8506690561
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1402225


Let's hope that PDX is in the mix somewhere....

Edit: I'm pretty skeptical about this. If BWI and PHL cannot work year-round, then I can't see some of PDX's top unserved markets, such as TPA, RDU, IND, BNA and MSY working...


I can see those routes working as a summer seasonal. I don't know if IND-PDX would work during the winter as IND-SEA needs as many PDX connecting passengers as possible, but I can see IND-PDX and IND-SEA co-existing in the summer at the very least.

Also does PHL and BWI have more competition? That has to be considered as well.

AA runs PDX-PHL as summer seasonal and WN runs PDX-BWI as summer seasonal as well, so in the winter, there are no PHL and BWI flights at all.
 
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Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:56 am

FA9295 wrote:
zackary747 wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
New route/market announcements from Alaska are coming soon:

https://twitter.com/AlaskaAir/status/10 ... 8506690561
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1402225


Let's hope that PDX is in the mix somewhere....

Edit: I'm pretty skeptical about this. If BWI and PHL cannot work year-round, then I can't see some of PDX's top unserved markets, such as TPA, RDU, IND, BNA and MSY working...


I can see those routes working as a summer seasonal. I don't know if IND-PDX would work during the winter as IND-SEA needs as many PDX connecting passengers as possible, but I can see IND-PDX and IND-SEA co-existing in the summer at the very least.

Also does PHL and BWI have more competition? That has to be considered as well.

AA runs PDX-PHL as summer seasonal and WN runs PDX-BWI as summer seasonal as well, so in the winter, there are no PHL and BWI flights at all.


That's very interesting. Learn something new everyday I guess. I think those markets mentioned can work seasonally on one carrier, whoever that airline may be.
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Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:29 am

A very nice visitor to PDX tonight ! An original 1945 Spitfire !
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:25 pm

I came across this positive write-up on anna.aero. Some interesting factual information...PDX has witnessed a 45% increase in passengers since 2010. Also a nice recap of the 2018 routes that have been added.
PDX is an amazing facility and we have much to look forward to over the next several years in terms of growth and facility expansion/rehab.

http://www.anna.aero/2018/08/22/routes- ... 0-million/
 
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Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:45 pm

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Someone from HA implied that PHX would likely be the last 767 destination in the system because of the maintenance.

That is correct. All the 767's are rotated in PHX. DL handles the overnight maintenance for HA. The last departure of a HA 767 from PHX is 12/31 the return flight is a 332.
 
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Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:32 pm

It appears UA and OO have cancelled almost everything to MFR yesterday and today. I ran into a neighbor who said his wife was on her way home (MFR, rather than very limited CEC) via a connection at DEN, only to be informed that flights were cancelled due to the smoke at MFR. In looking at FlightAware's weather, the visibility at MFR in the last 24 hours hasn't been as bad as it has been (down to 1 mile at time), but no UA, UA*/OO or DL*/OO today. 1 div to EUG. Meanwhile AS*/QX have been coming and going on time.

Is there more to it than overcaution with the smoke visibility?

Edit: also no AA*/OO flights.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:45 pm

Wingtips56 wrote:
It appears UA and OO have cancelled almost everything to MFR yesterday and today. I ran into a neighbor who said his wife was on her way home (MFR, rather than very limited CEC) via a connection at DEN, only to be informed that flights were cancelled due to the smoke at MFR. In looking at FlightAware's weather, the visibility at MFR in the last 24 hours hasn't been as bad as it has been (down to 1 mile at time), but no UA, UA*/OO or DL*/OO today. 1 div to EUG. Meanwhile AS*/QX have been coming and going on time.

Is there more to it than overcaution with the smoke visibility?

Edit: also no AA*/OO flights.


Probably just smoke. It's been pretty bad over there. Would have been nice if LMT was in business. They could have diverted here.
 
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Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:45 pm

According to the airport at MFR:

Airport spokeswoman Debbie Smith said cancellations and delays “have everything to do with the approach path from the north, which is where the Ramsey fire is.”
The Medford airport remains open, but larger aircraft are restricted from landing due to reduced visibility from the smoke, according to a news release from the Jackson County Airport Authority.

“Being so close to the fire makes it difficult for aircraft to descend, even if smoke isn’t as bad today,” she said.



http://mailtribune.com/news/top-stories ... el-flights

I remember about 25yrs ago, was on a United 737 trying to land at MFR on a approach from the North, due to weather it was poor visibility, he made two attempts and told us he was going to try one more time if not successful we're going back to SFO. We made it landing on an icy runway. We quickly decided to overnight in Medford before going over the mountain to Crescent City.
 
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Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:28 am

DL37 LHR-PDX was delayed for 9 hours. Is currently scheduled to arrive at PDX just after midnight: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CH ... C9WxLVNVPs

Luckily, a replacement Boeing 767 for the outbound flight was flown in from MSP, so the outbound PDX-LHR flight was not delayed: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KMSP/KPDX
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KPDX/EGLL

The inbound 767 will then fly to JFK tomorrow to resume scheduled flights: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KPDX/KJFK
 
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Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:13 am

I lurk this thread a lot and enjoy all the contributions from all. Be easy on me, I’m an amateur using a phone through a fence. Also, I’m using photobucket from my phone so I suspect the image might be low res.

Hello from EUG!

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Follow me on Instagram! @eug_spotter :airplane:
 
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Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:45 pm

m0ssy wrote:
I lurk this thread a lot and enjoy all the contributions from all. Be easy on me, I’m an amateur using a phone through a fence. Also, I’m using photobucket from my phone so I suspect the image might be low res.

Hello from EUG!

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I think that is an amazing photo! If captured on your phone, through the airport fence...then you did a remarkable job!
 
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Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:58 pm

m0ssy wrote:
I lurk this thread a lot and enjoy all the contributions from all. Be easy on me, I’m an amateur using a phone through a fence. Also, I’m using photobucket from my phone so I suspect the image might be low res.

Hello from EUG!

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Great photo! Are UA 737's common at EUG?
 
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Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:24 pm

TransWorldOne wrote:
m0ssy wrote:
I lurk this thread a lot and enjoy all the contributions from all. Be easy on me, I’m an amateur using a phone through a fence. Also, I’m using photobucket from my phone so I suspect the image might be low res.

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Great photo! Are UA 737's common at EUG?

There's a daily 739 to DEN (UA2413) and a couple 737s and A320s to SFO each day.
 
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Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:36 pm

bigfoot0503 wrote:
I came across this positive write-up on anna.aero. Some interesting factual information...PDX has witnessed a 45% increase in passengers since 2010. Also a nice recap of the 2018 routes that have been added.
PDX is an amazing facility and we have much to look forward to over the next several years in terms of growth and facility expansion/rehab.

http://www.anna.aero/2018/08/22/routes- ... 0-million/



There haven’t been any new nonstops to fill unserved routes from PDX in 2018 and so far none have been announced for 2019. All new flights this year have been extra runs on already served routes.

PDX will likely just miss the 20 million passenger mark in 2018. Growth has stalled at ~5% annually. The only thing likely to stimulate growth will be making some seasonal routes year round (BWI, PHL, IAD, LHR) and new nonstops to unserved cities: *Domestic, to the eastern U.S. (e.g. BNA, FLL/MIA, MSY); International, to somewhere in Asia (e.g. ICN, TPE or HKG) and Paris, probably via foreign carriers (KE, CI, CX, DI?) on newer aircraft.

Unfortunately, interest in expansion at PDX by many airlines—especially Southwest, Frontier and JetBlue—has been less than lukewarm. Domestically, it appears to be all up to Alaska.

The Port of Portland doesn’t seem to be getting much accomplished. At the least, they should be working with airports that are interested in establishing nonstops to Portland (e.g. BNA, MSY, CVG, TPA), even if it means initially waiving some passenger and landing fees.

*People don’t like having to make connections especially transcon in the winter, which significantly depresses demand.
Major N.A. airports with no PDX nonstops: MIA, FLL, TPA, IND, MSY, CLE, CVG, PIT, RDU, MEX, CUN; +BWI, +PHL, +YYZ
 
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Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:33 am

So is gate D1 solely operated by United now?
 
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Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:12 am

jbpdx wrote:
bigfoot0503 wrote:
I came across this positive write-up on anna.aero. Some interesting factual information...PDX has witnessed a 45% increase in passengers since 2010. Also a nice recap of the 2018 routes that have been added.
PDX is an amazing facility and we have much to look forward to over the next several years in terms of growth and facility expansion/rehab.

http://www.anna.aero/2018/08/22/routes- ... 0-million/



There haven’t been any new nonstops to fill unserved routes from PDX in 2018 and so far none have been announced for 2019. All new flights this year have been extra runs on already served routes.

PDX will likely just miss the 20 million passenger mark in 2018. Growth has stalled at ~5% annually. The only thing likely to stimulate growth will be making some seasonal routes year round (BWI, PHL, IAD, LHR) and new nonstops to unserved cities: *Domestic, to the eastern U.S. (e.g. BNA, FLL/MIA, MSY); International, to somewhere in Asia (e.g. ICN, TPE or HKG) and Paris, probably via foreign carriers (KE, CI, CX, DI?) on newer aircraft.

Unfortunately, interest in expansion at PDX by many airlines—especially Southwest, Frontier and JetBlue—has been less than lukewarm. Domestically, it appears to be all up to Alaska.

The Port of Portland doesn’t seem to be getting much accomplished. At the least, they should be working with airports that are interested in establishing nonstops to Portland (e.g. BNA, MSY, CVG, TPA), even if it means initially waiving some passenger and landing fees.

*People don’t like having to make connections especially transcon in the winter, which significantly depresses demand.

Yes, before PDX sees any new transcon destinations, Alaska needs to figure out how to make ATL, BWI and PHL work as year-round service.
With that being said, I have a sneaking suspicion that these routes could very well indeed work just fine in the winter months. I think what's keeping Alaska from expanding to year-round service as well as to new destinations is the fact that they "need to protect" their ever so important SEA hub from Delta encroaching on their local traffic. They need all the resources that they can get to be directed at SEA, even if that means pulling (or significantly limiting) service at their other focus cities, such as PDX. This means that Alaska is trying to combine PDX traffic with SEA traffic in an effort to limit Delta's growing operations at SEA, which explains why Alaska has tons of daily PDX-SEA flights.

It sucks for the PDX customers, because that means that we have to constantly make a one-stop connections at SEA, or just fly a different airline altogether; and I really don't want to have to connect in SEA if I'm flying in the opposite direction. It doesn't make any sense at all to connect at a hub north of PDX when your final destination is south or east of PDX, and you ultimately end up backtracking on your route.

SFO (and LAX to a much lesser degree) are both also getting their resources pulled and some of the A320s that operated on much of the routes that Alaska recently pulled from SFO and LAX have all been relocated to SEA. Like I said, Alaska is taking all of the ammunition (any extra planes) that they can get their hands on and they are using it in their ongoing effort to defend their SEA home turf and fight off Delta.

As for United cutting PDX-IAD in January through the first few weeks of March, I think that's also a funneling traffic issue as well. During the slow travel season, I'm assuming that United wants any passengers trying to get to Dulles from PDX (and vice versa) to connect via SFO or DEN. During the slow travel months, the number of people traveling (specifically through PDX in particular) significantly drops off, so there's not enough passengers to warrant a daily nonstop PDX-IAD flight within those months. The loads on PDX-IAD, when it is operating, have almost always been around 90%+ and before they suspended the route last year, I honestly thought that they were at one point, considering adding a second daily flight on that route. It's a shame that they cannot make it work.
 
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Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:02 pm

OAG 8/26/2018:
AS ABQ-PDX JAN 1.0>0.8[1.0]
AS MCI-PDX JAN 1.0>0.2[0] FEB 1.0>0[0] MAR 1.0>0.7[0]

SY MSP-PDX OCT 0.5>0.8[0.6]

G4 AZA-EUG APR 0>0.3[0.4]

- Yet another PDX winter suspension. This time it's PDX-MCI. Although YoY comparison shows that they'll be resuming it earlier than they did last year. I guess competing with WN on the route must be tough...
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