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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:15 pm

audidudi wrote:
AAIL86 wrote:
I'm booked in J on a 763 in April, UA 986 CDG-ORD. Seat map shows old 2-1-2 config. Anyone care to speculate on what my chances of getting Polaris are?

Probably about 50-50 as at least half should be in service by then!


I don't think that's entirely accurate, only half of the 3-class 763 will be in service. And since UA is not dedicating the Polaris 763 to any routes or cities, any 2-class 763 is possible. If I were to guess, I would say the odds are 5-6 out of 26 chance (# of 2-class 763, Polaris and BE lieflat). Also, based on recent flight patterns of the Polaris 763, they appear to be flying mostly out of IAH and EWR.

There's also a chance the plane might switch to a 3-class 763.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:55 pm

notconcerned wrote:
audidudi wrote:
AAIL86 wrote:
I'm booked in J on a 763 in April, UA 986 CDG-ORD. Seat map shows old 2-1-2 config. Anyone care to speculate on what my chances of getting Polaris are?

Probably about 50-50 as at least half should be in service by then!


I don't think that's entirely accurate, only half of the 3-class 763 will be in service. And since UA is not dedicating the Polaris 763 to any routes or cities, any 2-class 763 is possible. If I were to guess, I would say the odds are 5-6 out of 26 chance (# of 2-class 763, Polaris and BE lieflat). Also, based on recent flight patterns of the Polaris 763, they appear to be flying mostly out of IAH and EWR.

There's also a chance the plane might switch to a 3-class 763.


UA has the remaining 7x 3 class birds dedicated to ORD>LHR/CDG/BRU/AMS (inc IAH>ORD) so your chances are good to get the old dog. By the time you fly, there is a chance there could only be 5 active if they rotate a few more to HNL for reconfiguration decreasing your odds. I hope you get either of the 2 class birds!
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:06 pm

fun2fly wrote:
notconcerned wrote:
audidudi wrote:
Probably about 50-50 as at least half should be in service by then!


I don't think that's entirely accurate, only half of the 3-class 763 will be in service. And since UA is not dedicating the Polaris 763 to any routes or cities, any 2-class 763 is possible. If I were to guess, I would say the odds are 5-6 out of 26 chance (# of 2-class 763, Polaris and BE lieflat). Also, based on recent flight patterns of the Polaris 763, they appear to be flying mostly out of IAH and EWR.

There's also a chance the plane might switch to a 3-class 763.


UA has the remaining 7x 3 class birds dedicated to ORD>LHR/CDG/BRU/AMS (inc IAH>ORD) so your chances are good to get the old dog. By the time you fly, there is a chance there could only be 5 active if they rotate a few more to HNL for reconfiguration decreasing your odds. I hope you get either of the 2 class birds!


Well thanks a lot for input guys, appreciate it. I'm booked on 22APR, so hopefully a better chance by then for the nicer equipment.
That being said, sure seems like a lottery on the day, doesn't it...
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:50 pm

Would think it would more like 7 chances out of 27. When Polaris completed, I think the deal is the aircraft floats across the system, which means all 763s in service could serve the route. Let's assume 7 Polaris, 5 three class and 15 two class units would be in service at the time. For what it's worth, the seat map for 4/15/18 shows a 2 class aircraft.

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:53 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Would think it would more like 7 chances out of 27. When Polaris completed, I think the deal is the aircraft floats across the system, which means all 763s in service could serve the route. Let's assume 7 Polaris, 5 three class and 15 two class units would be in service at the time. For what it's worth, the seat map for 4/15/18 shows a 2 class aircraft.

73G:
N23721 entered MIA 2792/5Mar, highly likley for sliimlines

772:
N37018 exited XMN 2804/7Mar

Would there really be 8 out of service at one time?
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:13 pm

cosyr wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
Would think it would more like 7 chances out of 27. When Polaris completed, I think the deal is the aircraft floats across the system, which means all 763s in service could serve the route. Let's assume 7 Polaris, 5 three class and 15 two class units would be in service at the time. For what it's worth, the seat map for 4/15/18 shows a 2 class aircraft.

73G:
N23721 entered MIA 2792/5Mar, highly likley for sliimlines

772:
N37018 exited XMN 2804/7Mar

Would there really be 8 out of service at one time?

As of right now there are seven OoS; two in Polaris mod and four on Mx hold here and there. There have been three in Polaris in past, but no so for some weeks now. With higher demand coming soon the number OoS at any given time may drop... just have to wait and see.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:24 pm

When do the HA 763's actually come to UA and when can we expect them in service?
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:46 am

772:
N776UA entered XMN 2803/6Mar

767s in mod and maint:
763
643UA HKG 1/24/2018 2cl Polaris
646UA HKG 12/31/2017 2cl Polaris
652UA VQQ 2/26/2018 Maint
665UA VQQ 2/8/2018 Maint
666UA VQQ 2/14/2018 Maint
671UA ILN 12/14/2017 Maint
672UA MIA 12/18/2017 Maint
764
66051 HKG 3/2/2018 Maint
69063 HKG 2/28/2018 Maint

More CRJ 200 torture machines added
CR2:
N452AW (2003 build) has entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
N461AW (2003 build) has entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
N417AW (2002 build) has entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
Total 54 ZW CR2s currently with UAX
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:17 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
More CRJ 200 torture machines added
CR2:
N452AW (2003 build) has entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
N461AW (2003 build) has entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
N417AW (2002 build) has entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
Total 54 ZW CR2s currently with UAX


Those are the nicest CR2s you will find in the western hemisphere. They look very pretty both outside and in.

Unfortunately, I've heard from the regional safety manager for ZW for my area that about half the fleet is going to hit cycle limits within 2-3 years, so they're going to need to find replacements for them soon.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:46 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
772:
N776UA entered XMN 2803/6Mar

767s in mod and maint:
763
643UA HKG 1/24/2018 2cl Polaris
646UA HKG 12/31/2017 2cl Polaris
652UA VQQ 2/26/2018 Maint
665UA VQQ 2/8/2018 Maint
666UA VQQ 2/14/2018 Maint
671UA ILN 12/14/2017 Maint
672UA MIA 12/18/2017 Maint
764
66051 HKG 3/2/2018 Maint
69063 HKG 2/28/2018 Maint

More CRJ 200 torture machines added
CR2:
N452AW (2003 build) has entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
N461AW (2003 build) has entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
N417AW (2002 build) has entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
Total 54 ZW CR2s currently with UAX

763 N646UA has to be almost ready to exit HKG... Wonder if another will take its place or will UA reduce Polaris conversion to just one line for the busier Spring/Summer seasons.
As for ‘torture machine’ for me the only torture comes from trying to look out the window... I’ve been fine on them otherwise.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:59 am

Anyone have any pictures of the new CRJ2 interiors? I've heard heaps or praise, but haven't yet seen it for myself. I'm not sure a nicer cabin is enough to convince me that flying that piece of garbage is something to look forward to. That said, it's nice to see UA hasn't just brought in more unpopular airplanes, only to subject people to those dreary old cabins. They're making an effort, so I can appreciate that.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:26 am

atcsundevil wrote:
Anyone have any pictures of the new CRJ2 interiors? I've heard heaps or praise, but haven't yet seen it for myself. I'm not sure a nicer cabin is enough to convince me that flying that piece of garbage is something to look forward to. That said, it's nice to see UA hasn't just brought in more unpopular airplanes, only to subject people to those dreary old cabins. They're making an effort, so I can appreciate that.


I asked a while ago. Air Wisconsin periodically posts photos on their Instagram. Here are a few:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BY9QXrAHrb7 ... rwisconsin
https://www.instagram.com/p/BasAYC9n7W6 ... rwisconsin

https://www.instagram.com/airwisconsin/

To be honest, a CRJ is still a CRJ. I don't think there's much else any operator could ever do with that cabin aside from new-ish seats and a Lysol wipedown. I haven't flown ZW, but judging by those pictures, those CRJs look only marginally better than the OO ones I end up on way too often.

Too bad the CRJ-500 never took off.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:08 am

intotheair wrote:
atcsundevil wrote:
Anyone have any pictures of the new CRJ2 interiors? I've heard heaps or praise, but haven't yet seen it for myself. I'm not sure a nicer cabin is enough to convince me that flying that piece of garbage is something to look forward to. That said, it's nice to see UA hasn't just brought in more unpopular airplanes, only to subject people to those dreary old cabins. They're making an effort, so I can appreciate that.


I asked a while ago. Air Wisconsin periodically posts photos on their Instagram. Here are a few:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BY9QXrAHrb7 ... rwisconsin
https://www.instagram.com/p/BasAYC9n7W6 ... rwisconsin

https://www.instagram.com/airwisconsin/

To be honest, a CRJ is still a CRJ. I don't think there's much else any operator could ever do with that cabin aside from new-ish seats and a Lysol wipedown. I haven't flown ZW, but judging by those pictures, those CRJs look only marginally better than the OO ones I end up on way too often.

Too bad the CRJ-500 never took off.

Yep, pretty much looks like a CRJ! Apparently they put in LED lighting? That would at least make it look at little less tired. For better or for worse, there's always going to be a need for 50 seaters. I just hope that a new model from somebody will roll out in the next few years, because most CRJ2s/E145s are getting pretty worn out. I'm sure the airlines wouldn't mind something a little more economical, too.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:46 pm

73G:
N27722 entered MCO 2804/9Mar, possible slimlines

CR2:
Another 3 more of everyone’s favorite plane added to the fleet.... 57 total ZW units in service
N451AW (2003 build) entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
N462AW (2003 build) entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
N414ZW (2001 build) entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:37 pm

I recently booked a flight from EWR to GRU. A 3 Class 772 at least through early April. I can’t help but wonder: why São Paulo?
It can’t be a very premium market right now for someone to buy Global First? Perhaps it’s a good way to give 12 GS folks a perk? The seats are far superior to the old backward/forward seats, but United stopped a true First menu and service (I think) - does the food come on a tray or linens?
United also plugs the route to SDU over GIG from IAH. You can still buy EWR/IAH/GIG but it’s at the very bottom of the route options. Even after the 2 stop flights via Panama on a 737!
Not really complaining because getting into Rio at SDU beats GIG, but switching terminals at GRU is a pain after a 9+ hour flight.
But I think I prefer taking a 772 or 752 to IAH, then 767 to GIG. Maybe even getting a Polaris 767 by chance!
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:12 pm

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:33 am

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39M (739Max)
N67501 B1 Boeing 101/11Mar RNTMWH


That's exciting. Always fun when a new type/subtype is coming online!
But I'm surprised to see the registration; they've already got 737NG's in the xx501 range.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:26 am

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iahcsr wrote:
39M (739Max)
N67501 B1 Boeing 101/11Mar RNTMWH


That's exciting. Always fun when a new type/subtype is coming online!
But I'm surprised to see the registration; they've already got 737NG's in the xx501 range.

UA 738s Ship#s are 0201-0299 & 0501-0542. The 39M will be Ships 7501-7561. Since the xx in the reg#s are random it will definitely cause confusion for most common computer software to keep the two types sorted. :scratchchin:
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:34 am

iahcsr wrote:
AA737-823 wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
39M (739Max)
N67501 B1 Boeing 101/11Mar RNTMWH


That's exciting. Always fun when a new type/subtype is coming online!
But I'm surprised to see the registration; they've already got 737NG's in the xx501 range.

UA 738s Ship#s are 0201-0299 & 0501-0542. The 39M will be Ships 7501-7561. Since the xx in the reg#s are random it will definitely cause confusion for most common computer software to keep the two types sorted. :scratchchin:


I think the availability in shares makes no difference wether it's a 737-900, 737-900/ER or a 737 Max 900 ? Configuration is the same regarding seats.....

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:18 pm

The777Man wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
AA737-823 wrote:

That's exciting. Always fun when a new type/subtype is coming online!
But I'm surprised to see the registration; they've already got 737NG's in the xx501 range.

UA 738s Ship#s are 0201-0299 & 0501-0542. The 39M will be Ships 7501-7561. Since the xx in the reg#s are random it will definitely cause confusion for most common computer software to keep the two types sorted. :scratchchin:


I think the availability in shares makes no difference wether it's a 737-900, 737-900/ER or a 737 Max 900 ? Configuration is the same regarding seats.....

The777Man


I would think dispatch concerns would focus more on differences in performance vs. seating configurations though. I'm guessing there are routes/bases better served by a -900ER than a -900A and the new MAX will only add a third variable to that equation. While I'm sure it does give dispatchers more flexibility it still adds another variable to be considered.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:32 pm

AviationAddict wrote:
The777Man wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
UA 738s Ship#s are 0201-0299 & 0501-0542. The 39M will be Ships 7501-7561. Since the xx in the reg#s are random it will definitely cause confusion for most common computer software to keep the two types sorted. :scratchchin:


I think the availability in shares makes no difference wether it's a 737-900, 737-900/ER or a 737 Max 900 ? Configuration is the same regarding seats.....

The777Man


I would think dispatch concerns would focus more on differences in performance vs. seating configurations though. I'm guessing there are routes/bases better served by a -900ER than a -900A and the new MAX will only add a third variable to that equation. While I'm sure it does give dispatchers more flexibility it still adds another variable to be considered.



I wasn't concerned for the dispatchers; my concern was for PASSENGERS to find out which type of aircraft they are actually flying on.

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:53 pm

The777Man wrote:
AviationAddict wrote:
The777Man wrote:

I think the availability in shares makes no difference wether it's a 737-900, 737-900/ER or a 737 Max 900 ? Configuration is the same regarding seats.....

The777Man


I would think dispatch concerns would focus more on differences in performance vs. seating configurations though. I'm guessing there are routes/bases better served by a -900ER than a -900A and the new MAX will only add a third variable to that equation. While I'm sure it does give dispatchers more flexibility it still adds another variable to be considered.



I wasn't concerned for the dispatchers; my concern was for PASSENGERS to find out which type of aircraft they are actually flying on.

The777Man


Got it. That will be annoying for sure. I know other airlines use varying internal codes to differentiate different cabin configurations, UA should adopt a similar policy.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:03 pm

iahcsr wrote:
AA737-823 wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
39M (739Max)
N67501 B1 Boeing 101/11Mar RNTMWH


That's exciting. Always fun when a new type/subtype is coming online!
But I'm surprised to see the registration; they've already got 737NG's in the xx501 range.

UA 738s Ship#s are 0201-0299 & 0501-0542. The 39M will be Ships 7501-7561. Since the xx in the reg#s are random it will definitely cause confusion for most common computer software to keep the two types sorted. :scratchchin:


I would bet only the "x" in the registration will be random for that series of aircraft.

ie N67501, N87502, N97503, Nx7504

As I am sure you know pmCO only used three digit ship numbers but UA has always used four digit ones and upon the merger a fourth digit was added to the exCO ship numbers.

united.com should not have any issues informing you what type of aircraft is expected to fly your flight and providing you the actual ship number when you get closer to departure.

Edit: I did some checking and looks like all 737-900s are listed together at time of booking...the one tell I can find for the MAX9 looking at the seat maps row 7 has one seat that is slightly behind the other seats. The ship number should be available a day or two before departure.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:58 pm

AviationAddict wrote:
The777Man wrote:
AviationAddict wrote:

I would think dispatch concerns would focus more on differences in performance vs. seating configurations though. I'm guessing there are routes/bases better served by a -900ER than a -900A and the new MAX will only add a third variable to that equation. While I'm sure it does give dispatchers more flexibility it still adds another variable to be considered.



I wasn't concerned for the dispatchers; my concern was for PASSENGERS to find out which type of aircraft they are actually flying on.

The777Man


Got it. That will be annoying for sure. I know other airlines use varying internal codes to differentiate different cabin configurations, UA should adopt a similar policy.


Aren’t the cabin configurations for the -900A, -900ER and -9Max all the same?
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:46 pm

FlyHossD wrote:
AviationAddict wrote:
The777Man wrote:


I wasn't concerned for the dispatchers; my concern was for PASSENGERS to find out which type of aircraft they are actually flying on.

The777Man


Got it. That will be annoying for sure. I know other airlines use varying internal codes to differentiate different cabin configurations, UA should adopt a similar policy.


Aren’t the cabin configurations for the -900A, -900ER and -9Max all the same?


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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:47 am

United1 wrote:
FlyHossD wrote:
AviationAddict wrote:

Got it. That will be annoying for sure. I know other airlines use varying internal codes to differentiate different cabin configurations, UA should adopt a similar policy.


Aren’t the cabin configurations for the -900A, -900ER and -9Max all the same?


39M 20+48/111
73E 20+42/117 and 20+39/120
739 20+42+117


It seems like it would take next to no time to adjust a few rows and make all 739 seating arrangements the same. It is strange when the Y+ seats move around, and it must on occasion lead to issues of refunding paid upgrades to seats that go away with a swap.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:37 pm

319:
N899UA is still sitting in LCQ, Induction exit on 3/7 didn't happen

753:
N57864 entered MIA 2774/13Feb, looks like 3 ex TZ 753s in for slimlines (other 2 in RFD)

763:
N665UA exited VQQ 2694/12Mar

789:
N13954 sked to exit PVG 890/15Mar
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:04 pm

cosyr wrote:
United1 wrote:
FlyHossD wrote:

Aren’t the cabin configurations for the -900A, -900ER and -9Max all the same?


39M 20+48/111
73E 20+42/117 and 20+39/120
739 20+42+117


It seems like it would take next to no time to adjust a few rows and make all 739 seating arrangements the same. It is strange when the Y+ seats move around, and it must on occasion lead to issues of refunding paid upgrades to seats that go away with a swap.

To standardize, it would have to be the 120Y version. The 117Y version has slimline lavs in front of row 8 allowing the extra E+ triple and believe UA thought the cost wasn't worth the 3 seats halfway through reconfiguration. There have also been complaints of the width of the slimline lav.
I suspect the 79M has a few extra inches from F due to maybe a slimmer galley or new F seats and the slimline lav, thus allowing 6 to 9 more E+ seats.
So a standard version would require 39E+/120Y losing 3 E+ seats on 52 739s and 9E+ seats on all the 79Ms. The 42E+/117Y could be standardized, but I think require lav replacement on up to 52 current 739s.
If you ask me, its not worth the effort to standardize. Also, after the 79M has been delivered and a good number in the fleet, we'll see if and when the 739ER and 79M will be scheduled as an interchangeable fleet. If the two are kept on different flights and/or routes, the seat difference would not matter.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:58 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
cosyr wrote:
United1 wrote:

39M 20+48/111
73E 20+42/117 and 20+39/120
739 20+42+117


It seems like it would take next to no time to adjust a few rows and make all 739 seating arrangements the same. It is strange when the Y+ seats move around, and it must on occasion lead to issues of refunding paid upgrades to seats that go away with a swap.

To standardize, it would have to be the 120Y version. The 117Y version has slimline lavs in front of row 8 allowing the extra E+ triple and believe UA thought the cost wasn't worth the 3 seats halfway through reconfiguration. There have also been complaints of the width of the slimline lav.
I suspect the 79M has a few extra inches from F due to maybe a slimmer galley or new F seats and the slimline lav, thus allowing 6 to 9 more E+ seats.
So a standard version would require 39E+/120Y losing 3 E+ seats on 52 739s and 9E+ seats on all the 79Ms. The 42E+/117Y could be standardized, but I think require lav replacement on up to 52 current 739s.
If you ask me, its not worth the effort to standardize. Also, after the 79M has been delivered and a good number in the fleet, we'll see if and when the 739ER and 79M will be scheduled as an interchangeable fleet. If the two are kept on different flights and/or routes, the seat difference would not matter.

Oh I forgot about the new coffin lavatory. I used one once, it was fine, but make sure you don't drop anything on the floor, there is no room to bend to pick it up, plus use it early in the flight because the tiny sink means splashing all over the place. It got pretty messy by the end of the flight.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:11 pm

738:
N77525 sked to exit RFD 2798/14Mar with slimlines

753:
N57863 exited RFD 2801/13Mar with slimlines
N57868 entered RFD 2801/13Mar for slimlines
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:47 pm

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iahcsr wrote:
AA737-823 wrote:

That's exciting. Always fun when a new type/subtype is coming online!
But I'm surprised to see the registration; they've already got 737NG's in the xx501 range.

UA 738s Ship#s are 0201-0299 & 0501-0542. The 39M will be Ships 7501-7561. Since the xx in the reg#s are random it will definitely cause confusion for most common computer software to keep the two types sorted. :scratchchin:


I would bet only the "x" in the registration will be random for that series of aircraft.

ie N67501, N87502, N97503, Nx7504

As I am sure you know pmCO only used three digit ship numbers but UA has always used four digit ones and upon the merger a fourth digit was added to the exCO ship numbers.

united.com should not have any issues informing you what type of aircraft is expected to fly your flight and providing you the actual ship number when you get closer to departure.

Edit: I did some checking and looks like all 737-900s are listed together at time of booking...the one tell I can find for the MAX9 looking at the seat maps row 7 has one seat that is slightly behind the other seats. The ship number should be available a day or two before departure.


Yes, most if not all systems are geared around the 4-digit nose number. At united I believe the first two digits are the fleet subtype and the last two digits are the ship number within that fleet subtype. For example, 24XX and 25XX are the 777As, 28XX the 777ER, 42XX the A320s, etc. generally, even when they reconfigure they start a new 2-digit subtype so systems can distinguish the differences. Interesting that it used to be that most new fleet types started with 0 as the second digit and over the years as they reconfigure and create different sub fleets they climb through the range. For example, all of the original PMUA 757s originally came in as 50xx but by the time the end of the life of the fleet, most were in the 56xx and 57xx nose numbers due to reconfigs over the years
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:11 pm

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United1 wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
UA 738s Ship#s are 0201-0299 & 0501-0542. The 39M will be Ships 7501-7561. Since the xx in the reg#s are random it will definitely cause confusion for most common computer software to keep the two types sorted. :scratchchin:


I would bet only the "x" in the registration will be random for that series of aircraft.

ie N67501, N87502, N97503, Nx7504

As I am sure you know pmCO only used three digit ship numbers but UA has always used four digit ones and upon the merger a fourth digit was added to the exCO ship numbers.

united.com should not have any issues informing you what type of aircraft is expected to fly your flight and providing you the actual ship number when you get closer to departure.

Edit: I did some checking and looks like all 737-900s are listed together at time of booking...the one tell I can find for the MAX9 looking at the seat maps row 7 has one seat that is slightly behind the other seats. The ship number should be available a day or two before departure.


Yes, most if not all systems are geared around the 4-digit nose number. At united I believe the first two digits are the fleet subtype and the last two digits are the ship number within that fleet subtype. For example, 24XX and 25XX are the 777As, 28XX the 777ER, 42XX the A320s, etc. generally, even when they reconfigure they start a new 2-digit subtype so systems can distinguish the differences. Interesting that it used to be that most new fleet types started with 0 as the second digit and over the years as they reconfigure and create different sub fleets they climb through the range. For example, all of the original PMUA 757s originally came in as 50xx but by the time the end of the life of the fleet, most were in the 56xx and 57xx nose numbers due to reconfigs over the years

Exactly so.... up to the merger the first digit was the type, the second was the specific configuration within the type (and changed with configuration) After the merger the second digit is no longer configuration dependent.
A ‘0’ was added as first digit to all the former three digit CO ship #s. Given the current computer software won’t accept 0 as a first digit Ship 0123 appears as Ship 3123 online (Don’t expect this will ever change, it would have been delt with before now if it really mattered in some way).
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Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:13 am

77W
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:51 am

All 181 737-700/-800 will receive Carbon Brakes.......
You are here.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:54 am

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All 181 737-700/-800 will receive Carbon Brakes.......

Interesting.. Any idea what those run price wise? Can't be cheap, but I'm guessing it's a good long term investment since they should hold up longer.
 
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Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:08 am

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77W
N2645U C1-ed today 14Mar (Happy Birthday to my Nephew David)

I guess someone saw a gremlin on the wing... back for a C2 later in the day.
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Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:29 pm

Does anyone know what is going on with 2473?

She returned to service, operating SFO-HNL on 9 March, HNL-SFO-HNL-LAX on 10 March, arriving in LAX early on the 11 March where she has been ever since. I know she was routed to continue flying several segments after arriving at LAX but those were reassigned to other aircraft.
 
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Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:37 pm

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Does anyone know what is going on with 2473?

She returned to service, operating SFO-HNL on 9 March, HNL-SFO-HNL-LAX on 10 March, arriving in LAX early on the 11 March where she has been ever since. I know she was routed to continue flying several segments after arriving at LAX but those were reassigned to other aircraft.



Found on arrival damage, lh hand main gear landing gear door edge is cracked. Also found panel between lh and rh gear cracked and edge of panel damaged, missing.

Should be back in service later today if not by tomorrow.
 
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Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:57 pm

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mmahpeel wrote:
Does anyone know what is going on with 2473?

She returned to service, operating SFO-HNL on 9 March, HNL-SFO-HNL-LAX on 10 March, arriving in LAX early on the 11 March where she has been ever since. I know she was routed to continue flying several segments after arriving at LAX but those were reassigned to other aircraft.



Found on arrival damage, lh hand main gear landing gear door edge is cracked. Also found panel between lh and rh gear cracked and edge of panel damaged, missing.

Should be back in service later today if not by tomorrow.


Remnants from the engine incident or net new damage?
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:03 pm

I've now seen that United is operating a domestic 777-200 on the EWR-DUB route for many days now... any thoughts?
 
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Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:30 am

Two diff topics here..

Flew a SkyWest CRJ200, N925EV...had a brand new interior, NOT like Air Wisconsin. Had head padding, new armrest, new seat covers, it smelled brand new inside! Is this on all OO CRJ's or was this a one off?

I saw on the jP Morgan Investor slide that Premium Plus is being launched in Fall of 2018. Can we hope to god tht they are doing it now..Spring and Summer 2018 Fleet wide so we have more than 14 Planes with them?

Any chance they maybe work backwards? Non Polaris Planes get the Premium Plus first...so each aircraft has something? Polaris or Premium Plus?

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Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:38 am

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I've now seen that United is operating a domestic 777-200 on the EWR-DUB route for many days now... any thoughts?

This was announced a while back that some flights to Europe between select cities would be operated with the 772 domestics. It's probably their way to fight off the slew of LCC carriers offering TATL service these days. I believe it's only seasonal though.
 
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Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:54 am

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jsteeves3 wrote:
I've now seen that United is operating a domestic 777-200 on the EWR-DUB route for many days now... any thoughts?

This was announced a while back that some flights to Europe between select cities would be operated with the 772 domestics. It's probably their way to fight off the slew of LCC carriers offering TATL service these days. I believe it's only seasonal though.


Yes, for the summer peak and some slack when multiple Polaris 777 mod lines open. STC bird should be in flight test soon.
 
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Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:50 pm

codc10 wrote:
atcsundevil wrote:
jsteeves3 wrote:
I've now seen that United is operating a domestic 777-200 on the EWR-DUB route for many days now... any thoughts?

This was announced a while back that some flights to Europe between select cities would be operated with the 772 domestics. It's probably their way to fight off the slew of LCC carriers offering TATL service these days. I believe it's only seasonal though.


Yes, for the summer peak and some slack when multiple Polaris 777 mod lines open. STC bird should be in flight test soon.

This seems like it would give slack to the 752's, Have they ever flown IPTE 772's to Ireland?
 
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Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:20 pm

cosyr wrote:
codc10 wrote:
atcsundevil wrote:
This was announced a while back that some flights to Europe between select cities would be operated with the 772 domestics. It's probably their way to fight off the slew of LCC carriers offering TATL service these days. I believe it's only seasonal though.


Yes, for the summer peak and some slack when multiple Polaris 777 mod lines open. STC bird should be in flight test soon.

This seems like it would give slack to the 752's, Have they ever flown IPTE 772's to Ireland?


The used to fly PMCO 777's then they split to 2x 752 and now reverting back. No one can beat the 772 domestic CASM I'd guess. I think it's a smart move.
 
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Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:33 pm

Assuming you can fill the plane...
 
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Assuming you can fill the plane...


Demand to DUB in the summer is very strong, shouldn't be an issue.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:15 am

Question on aircraft the A359 will replace. What I've heard so far is that they will begin replacing the non ER 772s. Wouldn't it make more sense to deploy brand new airliners on international routes, such as the A359, and phase the 772ERs to replace the 772As?

It seems to me to be a huge waste to deploy A359s on routes such as SFO-HNL, when they could be used on things like EWR-HKG where 772ERs are placed.

Thoughts.?
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:31 am

BG777300ER wrote:
Question on aircraft the A359 will replace. What I've heard so far is that they will begin replacing the non ER 772s. Wouldn't it make more sense to deploy brand new airliners on international routes, such as the A359, and phase the 772ERs to replace the 772As?

It seems to me to be a huge waste to deploy A359s on routes such as SFO-HNL, when they could be used on things like EWR-HKG where 772ERs are placed.

Thoughts.?



359s would likely be used internationaly with 77Es being modified to domestic configuration and replacing the 772s.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:35 am

Ah got it, can't wait for those bad boys. I am looking for ways to fly one ASAP, and Lufthansa's flights are on my radar haha.

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